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[14:23:22] <vogella> Anyone knows how I can  measure the startup time of a runtime IDE including the splash screen handling? I found UIStartTest but this does not include the splashscreen.
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[14:28:14] <drolka> vogella: You can add proper logging and next calculate the difference between two log items
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[14:40:27] <vogella> drolka, thanks. Any pointer how I can activate this property?
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[14:41:02] <vogella> drolka, ah got it, I  assume you mean, I can add a log statement myself?
[14:41:16] <drolka> vogella: yes
[14:43:55] <drolka> vogella: first entry I would log in the E4Application.start method and the second one somewhere in the handler of the UIEvents.UILifeCycle.APP_STARTUP_COMPLETE event
[14:46:03] <vogella> drolka, thanks. I try that.
[14:46:26] <drolka> vogella: np
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[15:03:14] <vogella> drolka, another way seems to set the tracing property for org.eclipse.core.runtime "perf" in the launch configuration.
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[15:22:18] <drolka> vogella: thanks, good to know
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[18:51:24] <lemmy> Do we build e4tools for kepler off of master?
[18:53:01] <paulweb515> lemmy: yes, there's only one e4 build
[18:53:20] <paulweb515> lemmy: the goal was to cut to the "next" level some time this week
[18:54:48] <lemmy> paulweb515: https://git.eclipse.org/r/19207 IMO introduces an incompatibility on Kepler
[18:56:01] <paulweb515> lemmy: we need ping Lars on the bug.  If it makes the tools incompatible, then the best thing would be for Lars to revert the commit and then re-apply it next week after we take a snapshot build
[18:57:36] <lemmy> paulweb515: ok
[18:57:55] <lemmy> I'm building master right now and will install into kepler
[18:59:25] <lemmy> Btw. the more and more I think about ~421376 I wonder if a UI thread specific solution should rather be generalized into a pre-injection hook/callback.
[18:59:26] <Arbalest> Bug 421376 - http://bugs.eclipse.org/421376 - Platform / UI / 4.4 - All / All - NEW /  / enhancement / - Assignee: platform-ui-triaged - [DI] Add @UIInject annotation to mark method only to be called inside the UI thread
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[19:11:58] <lemmy> paulweb515: I guess we are fine as we apparently add dependencies to the product already that do not resolve on Kepler.
[19:12:19] <lemmy> E.g. org.w3c.dom.events
[19:24:52] <paulweb515> lemmy: is that the kind of dep that we can revert temporarily
[19:24:56] <paulweb515> ?
[19:25:13] <paulweb515> lemmy: Do you have a bug where that was added?
[19:28:27] <lemmy> ~419697
[19:28:28] <Arbalest> Bug 419697 - http://bugs.eclipse.org/419697 - Platform / UI / 4.4 - PC / Windows 8 - RESOLVED / FIXED / normal / - Assignee: daniel.rolka - Generated Eclipse 4 project does not work out of the box with Luna
[19:36:47] <paulweb515> lemmy: oh, that's what added the w3c dependency?
[19:37:23] <lemmy> Exactly, both org.w3c.dom.events & org.eclipse.osgi.compatibility.state
[19:37:50] <paulweb515> lemmy: oh, Lars says it works fine in Kepler.  I guess you mean that there's an error listed in the product file but it launches anyway?
[19:38:54] <lemmy> Yes, trainees are usually confused when they generate code that has errors.
[19:39:21] <lemmy> It's bad enough that we do this for fragments already.
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[19:52:48] <lemmy> If Kepler branch will be forked off this week anyway, I would suggest to leave the commits that constitute  419697 out of the Kepler branch
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[19:56:25] <paulweb515> lemmy: we don't generally branch the e4 project.  We just take an I build and promote it to a snapshot, then keep boing
[19:56:27] <paulweb515> uh, going
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