March 29, 2019 
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March 29, 2019 [00:03:41] <Zaxx> one last Q[00:04:00] <Zaxx> can the /var/nsinstall/directories be deleted ?[01:22:54] <cs-bot> <masterxen> you can run something like nsinstall -clean and that removes all old install files[01:22:59] <cs-bot> <masterxen> check that command though[01:29:58] <yuljk> I've always cleaned up my /nsinstall directory and never had any problems[01:30:10] <yuljk> Should be fine[01:30:19] <yuljk> Uusally aftera firmware flash[01:30:26] <yuljk> Usually*[02:13:26] *** Thuryn <Thuryn!~Thuryn@216.106.72.146.reverse.socket.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:17:02] <cs-bot> <apdlmike> the -c option for installns is deprecated. it used to clean up the old boot images on the flash partition but installns now checks free space and prompts if it needs to do a cleanup. I don't recall any script automatically cleaning /var/nsinstall but you should be able to clean old builds out of /var/nsinstall manually at any time[04:22:57] <|Atum|> and here I was studiously naming my folder structure so the cleanup could properly work ... :p[04:49:58] *** cs-bot2 <cs-bot2!~cs-bot@13.89.55.246> has joined #Citrix[04:53:34] *** cs-bot <cs-bot!~cs-bot@13.89.55.246> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:21:54] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yxnecvqjalknnlxt> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[08:35:18] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gdxeptezfrkwpmek> has joined #Citrix[09:14:03] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has quit IRC (Quit: %Adieu! I have too grieved a heart to take a tedious leave.%)[09:14:56] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has joined #Citrix[09:32:55] *** Zaxx <Zaxx!~zaxx@2a00:23c4:de9c:8601:653d:1551:b858:78a2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:36:57] *** newzax <newzax!a77f6890@gateway/web/freenode/ip.167.127.104.144> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:53:20] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wqeobgkldjcmxuzi> has joined #Citrix[13:16:43] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has joined #Citrix[13:16:55] <Olivier83> hello[13:19:15] <Olivier83> So I have finished the work for the WEM Start Menu management on Windows 2016[13:19:19] <Olivier83> it's not too bad[13:19:55] *** NewZax <NewZax!a77fdaae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.167.127.218.174> has joined #Citrix[13:20:06] <NewZax> morning fine people[13:21:16] <Olivier83> hi[13:37:18] *** NewZax <NewZax!a77fdaae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.167.127.218.174> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[13:37:51] *** newzax <newzax!a77fdaae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.167.127.218.174> has joined #Citrix[13:38:07] <newzax> happy friday Olivier83[13:40:19] <Olivier83> happy Friday \o/[13:42:01] <braynyac> Olivier83: yeah? You got rid of all the tiles? What else did you do?[13:42:07] <braynyac> morning morning[13:42:23] <braynyac> we switched over to StoreFront from Web Interface last night. So far, minimal problems...[13:42:29] <newzax> c(_)[13:43:31] <newzax> web interface.... flip me[13:43:43] <newzax> 5.4 still going ?[13:44:05] <braynyac> Oh yeah.[13:44:33] <braynyac> I had to force StoreFront. Finally told our desktops manager I was doing it, and to get his stuff together.[13:44:39] <braynyac> that was 7 months ago[13:44:46] <braynyac> his stuff is still broken this morning[13:45:06] <newzax> i started working for an org that still is using 5.4WI and XA6.5[13:46:13] <newzax> its a flipping mountain to climb getting it all up in to 2016OS and 7.15LTSR and they wouldnt go with PVS[13:46:23] <newzax> it seems too much like black magic to them[13:46:29] <steeb`> hehehe[13:46:35] <steeb`> i think we all fight that struggle[13:46:56] <steeb`> this new contract i took on is running xa 5[13:47:09] <newzax> 5 ? on 2003 ?[13:47:40] <steeb`> si[13:47:59] <newzax> i feel advanced :)[13:50:09] <Biny> @_@[13:50:14] <Biny> truely sorry for your lots[13:52:48] *** Sigyn <Sigyn!sigyn@freenode/utility-bot/sigyn> has quit IRC (Quit: People always have such a hard time believing that robots could do bad things.)[13:53:29] *** Sigyn <Sigyn!sigyn@freenode/utility-bot/sigyn> has joined #Citrix[13:54:41] <steeb`> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jHGJuXYd/image.png[13:55:32] <newzax> respect[13:55:49] <newzax> well... if it aint broke why fix it[14:03:09] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@99.133.184.129> has joined #Citrix[14:04:16] <Biny> lol[14:04:27] <Biny> its even better to see that emulation on win10 :O[14:06:41] <KaiForce> morning to all the app delivery expertise havers[14:10:58] <steeb`> the win10 is my desktop, i had to rdp[14:20:39] <tabularasa> morning peeps[14:30:31] <steeb`> tgif how r u[14:31:42] <tabularasa> i think ih ave a fever..[15:10:26] <braynyac> that sucks[15:10:36] <uncon> yeah, you should try to get rid of that...[15:11:21] <tabularasa> i had one last night, woke up, thought i felt better, i was wrong[15:11:30] <braynyac> we still have an XA5 (well, 4.5) farm that we can't get rid of due to regulatory compliance. Only one single app left on it (as of this week). And our 6.5 environment we are phasing out, just have to get all our dev/test stuff rebuilt into 7.x[15:11:31] <tabularasa> i'm likely going to leave here soon[15:11:45] <braynyac> yeah - go home and get better. Work's not that important[15:11:55] <uncon> tabularasa: no worries... take the rest of the day off[15:12:08] <uncon> i already cleared it with your manager[15:12:18] <tabularasa> have to move a customer to Azure tonight at 10pm anyway... sigh....[15:12:24] <steeb`> braynyac: here too... 4.5[15:12:26] <uncon> probably out to take off monday too, just to make sure[15:12:30] <uncon> ought*[15:12:47] <tabularasa> hahaha :thumbsup:[15:12:52] <steeb`> 4.5, 5.0, 6.5, 7.8 and a 7.11 env[15:13:04] <braynyac> eeewwww[15:13:32] <braynyac> How many profile servers and print servers and yuck, what a mess that must be...[15:26:29] <steeb`> your head would explode at the mess[15:26:39] <KaiForce> wow I felt back I still have 6.5[15:26:43] <KaiForce> *bad[15:46:33] <tabularasa> Citrix just told me it's 100k to get 6 months of extended support[15:46:39] <tabularasa> they are so dumb sometimes[15:47:20] <braynyac> for which product(s)?[15:48:58] <tabularasa> 6.5[15:49:21] <braynyac> ah[15:49:30] <braynyac> support ends on that next year with 2008 R2, correct?[15:50:51] <tabularasa> yeah[15:50:57] <tabularasa> 100k.. for the 1 ticket a year I put in[15:51:00] <tabularasa> i mean, really, fuck you[15:52:05] <Olivier83> you don't need them[15:55:06] <tabularasa> only about once a year.. haha[16:07:43] <Olivier83> but 100K[16:14:22] <tabularasa> it's just stupid[16:23:22] <braynyac> XenAppBlog / XenAppTraining Virtual Expo today! https://xenappblog.com/agenda/ It's free![16:24:26] <Olivier83> 12:00 BST[16:24:33] <Olivier83> is it like midnight?[16:24:36] <Olivier83> for the UK[16:24:48] <braynyac> don't think so...[16:25:01] <braynyac> UK is only +4 from BST, I think[16:29:50] <Olivier83> I am interested in the discussion about the Azure virtual desktop[16:30:35] <braynyac> I believe that if you sign up for the expo, you can get all the recordings for a limited time. Usually Trond has them available within a week or so, and keeps them up for a couple weeks so you can download them.[16:30:44] <braynyac> so if you missed one, you can go back and get it[16:31:29] <Olivier83> I'm in the webinar[16:34:00] <Olivier83> PolicyPak demo[16:36:16] <braynyac> That is some cool software[16:57:15] <Olivier83> they always say now[16:57:24] <Olivier83> oh look Citrix is using UDP it so much better[16:57:28] <Olivier83> TCP is so bad etc[16:58:06] <Olivier83> but I was working when VMware Horizon with PCoIP arrived on the market[16:58:13] <Olivier83> with their UDP only protocol[16:58:17] <Olivier83> when ICA was TCP only[16:58:55] <Olivier83> and Citrix kept saying "UDP is so bad, who wants UDP? It's all crap" "UDP don't fit well on VPNs" "UDP don't go through firewalls etc"[16:59:18] <Olivier83> So it's quite funny today[16:59:36] <Olivier83> to read from Citrix that "UDP is so great! UDP is the way to go!"[16:59:40] <Olivier83> now that Horizon is dead[17:25:09] <Biny> braynyac: nice[17:25:37] <Biny> make udp great again![17:26:20] <Olivier83> well[17:26:26] <Olivier83> it's true that PCoIP was so much better[17:26:35] <Olivier83> with UDP[17:27:43] <Olivier83> also I do not understand why[17:27:49] <Olivier83> Audio over UDP in ICA[17:27:55] <Olivier83> is limited to low quality only[17:57:01] <Olivier83> :([17:57:21] <Olivier83> ok it's time \o/ have a good weekend[17:57:29] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:02:08] <Biny> \o\[18:14:19] *** newzax <newzax!a77fdaae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.167.127.218.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:14:59] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gdxeptezfrkwpmek> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[18:16:40] <guideX> can you use windows server 2016 with xenapp 7.6[18:18:55] <Biny> sure[18:53:51] *** ibalerio <ibalerio!~ibalerio@151.193.220.27> has joined #Citrix[19:02:11] <braynyac> Hey BobFrankly, may I borrow your cluebat(tm)? Need to learn my helpdesk manager how to do his job...[19:10:08] <Biny> maybe he's too ubsy helping the desk.[19:27:22] *** Zaxx <Zaxx!~zaxx@2a00:23c4:de9c:8601:f182:589b:803:3935> has joined #Citrix[19:38:34] <braynyac> Rolled out StoreFront, only to find that our "desktop engineers" (using that term so loosely it doesn't really apply) have _ZERO_ consistency for our thin clients for the login URL. Meaning that a whole swath of our users couldn't log in this morning. And guess who gets to clean up the mess....[19:38:52] <braynyac> so....now I get to learn how to make the NS do URL rewriting / redirecting.[19:43:56] <braynyac> our normal URL is in the form www.<url>.<tld> easy. The existing conditions I need to modify are: http://<url>.<tld>; https://<url>.<tld> and https://www.<url>.<tld>/Citrix/XenApp. Looks like the last one is the easiest. Not really sure how to insert "www." into the URL without breaking existing usage.[20:23:27] *** hirogen <hirogen!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has joined #Citrix[20:36:34] <uncon> braynyac: can you just do a redirect for requests without "www."?[20:44:14] <Biny> http.REQ.HEADER("Host").CONTAINS("url.tld")&&http.REQ.URL.EQ("/")[20:44:30] <Biny> do that as a responder, and jus tset the action to "correct url"[20:44:39] <Biny> i think that will do it at least.[21:03:16] <braynyac> I got it figured. Had to do a few things, but it was pretty simple. Followed this guide: https://www.jgspiers.com/url-rewrite-responder-citrix-netscaler/. And thank goodness for multiple monitors =)[21:03:29] <braynyac> Thanks Biny[21:03:40] <braynyac> SO frustrating that he can't do his job[21:04:12] <braynyac> Now lobbying to have all desktops report to me, just because his incompetence is handcuffing us.[21:04:22] <braynyac> seriously - our TCs are on 4.1 Receiver.[21:04:25] <braynyac> 4.1!!!!![21:05:02] <braynyac> "What's your plan to upgrade them to support our new 7.15 / 2016 server environment?" - _deer in the headlights_ <- oh crap[21:18:59] *** microman1 <microman1!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has joined #Citrix[21:19:11] *** hirogen <hirogen!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:21:59] *** hirogen <hirogen!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has joined #Citrix[21:22:04] *** microman1 <microman1!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:30:53] *** hirogen <hirogen!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:31:08] *** hirogen <hirogen!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has joined #Citrix[21:33:55] *** microman1 <microman1!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has joined #Citrix[21:33:55] *** hirogen <hirogen!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:42:15] *** microman1 <microman1!hirogen@97e7b2f2.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:02:14] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@99.133.184.129> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 52.9.0/20180621064021])[22:09:30] *** Suic1deJ4ck <Suic1deJ4ck!~SuicideJ4@199.4.143.205> has joined #Citrix[22:10:38] *** SuicideJ4ck <SuicideJ4ck!~SuicideJ4@199.4.143.205> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[22:23:54] *** ibalerio <ibalerio!~ibalerio@151.193.220.27> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:34:28] *** paradizelost <paradizelost!~paradizel@208-107-238-54-dynamic.midco.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))[22:34:57] *** paradizelost <paradizelost!~paradizel@208-107-238-54-dynamic.midco.net> has joined #Citrix