March 15, 2019 
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March 15, 2019 [00:59:26] <|Atum|> anyone awake?[01:11:00] <cs-bot> <masterxen> yip :slightly_smiling_face:[03:47:22] <cs-bot> <benjamin.crill> Awake here too[04:19:50] <braynyac> And here[04:56:29] <|Atum|> Sad weekend here :'([05:09:32] <braynyac> Just turned over into Read Only Friday =)[07:47:43] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibihsjeoqljmaefx> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[08:42:13] *** BGL <BGL!twenty@75-149-171-58-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[09:12:16] *** ftho <ftho!~ftho@mailgw.f-thornberg.se> has joined #Citrix[10:11:11] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has joined #Citrix[11:15:45] <Olivier83> So a classic Start Menu it will be. My client doesn't want to implement Pinned Tiles View. :([11:16:02] <Olivier83> But he wants to manage the Start Menu with WEM[11:46:56] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nkbvggnjamesrlar> has joined #Citrix[13:19:46] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ojotjpdkrudbhiwz> has joined #Citrix[13:24:26] <Biny> |Atum|: yeah that looks scary, you safe?[13:52:25] <Olivier83> terrible news[14:04:04] *** Sigyn <Sigyn!sigyn@freenode/utility-bot/sigyn> has quit IRC (Quit: People always have such a hard time believing that robots could do bad things.)[14:04:48] *** Sigyn <Sigyn!sigyn@freenode/utility-bot/sigyn> has joined #Citrix[14:20:37] <braynyac> Happy Friday everyone[14:25:33] <Olivier83> hi[14:26:24] *** hardlock <hardlock!~hl@81.6.37.6> has joined #Citrix[14:26:43] <cs-bot> <benjamin.crill> hi all. terrible stuff down under.[14:32:55] <tabularasa> morning peeps[14:36:50] <cs-bot> <david62277> good morning[14:37:05] <cs-bot> <david62277> my M10s are in place and humming along :)[14:39:58] <tabularasa> very nice! GPUs ftw[14:43:25] <Biny> tuesday.. nutainx cluster CPU: 35% - 160 users on[14:43:34] <Biny> today, nutanix cluster cpu - 60%, 110 users on[14:43:38] <Biny> this is driving me mad[14:59:32] <braynyac> Biny: you have anything like ControlUp or egInnovations or Goliath that can tell you what's going on?[14:59:58] <braynyac> Sounds like a lot of YouBook and FaceTube...[15:01:05] <steeb`> Good morning[15:04:10] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.29.171> has joined #Citrix[15:05:43] <braynyac> Thank you Microsoft for foisting "focused" inbox on my users...without letting them know[15:06:44] <tabularasa> right?[15:18:10] <braynyac> https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Outlook-Blog/Update-on-Focused-Inbox-and-our-plans-for-Clutter/ba-p/136448[15:18:16] <braynyac> read the comments - people are PISSED[15:18:48] <kahnibus> i hate the focused crap on their iOS outlook app[15:19:19] <braynyac> there was an entry on the uservoice site, and it was denied. Thanks again MSFT.[15:19:22] <kahnibus> but...hey....Halo is coming to PC so Microsoft does some good and then some bad[15:19:50] <braynyac> We don't use or support the Outlook app...only our MDM / MAM solution. This is _really_ going to piss off our mobile users.[15:22:48] <Biny> braynyac: going to get a trial of it oging fo rmonday[15:23:12] <Biny> kahnibus: i actually love the focused inbox, it defaults to capturing all the horrible company-wide emails we send out[15:23:48] <tabularasa> i tried it and it captured so many emails i actually wanted to see, i hated it[15:24:52] <kahnibus> lol[15:27:39] <tabularasa> as soon as |Atum| moves to NZ, then a mosque shooting kills 49... isn't that the reason he left in the first place?[15:31:37] <Biny> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/hottest-chat-app-teens-google-docs/584857/[15:32:00] *** quantumcupcake <quantumcupcake!~quantumcu@gateway/tor-sasl/quantumcupcake> has joined #Citrix[15:37:19] <kahnibus> i read that last night... funny[15:41:34] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.29.171> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:48:01] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> Anyone hosting QuickBooks in XenApp?[15:48:12] <cs-bot> <benjamin.crill> I have before sadly[15:49:41] <tabularasa> many times[15:57:55] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> anyone seen issue with HDX engine crashing when navigating though QB ?[15:58:07] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> specially in chart of accounts, which is basically a list of accounts[15:58:30] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> if you scroll up or down, it freezes receiver and no data being received[15:58:36] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> then HDX engine crashes[15:58:39] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> RDP works fine[15:58:52] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> application itself never crash[15:58:59] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> and user can reconnect back in to continue[15:59:43] <tabularasa> i have not[16:03:03] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> opened case with Citrix. They been futzing with it for days. nothing[16:03:20] <tabularasa> that sucks[16:03:25] <tabularasa> what version of vda?[16:03:34] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> I also have another application that only works in Receiver 4.5[16:03:43] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> anything other then that, brakes the app[16:03:57] <tabularasa> yeah, i've seen that. normally with that weird HDX shit, i just juggle the receiver version and that normally fixes it[16:04:01] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> app provider excuse is thats all its compatable with[16:04:37] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> with QB, I tried anything between 4.3 - the latest[16:04:42] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> no difference[16:05:10] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> but, luckily with QB case, only one user reporting this. However, I can replicate it with my account[16:05:25] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> could be specific to her QB db files[16:05:38] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> trying to get another QB db file to test with[16:08:10] <tabularasa> good lord, that's odd[16:08:24] <Olivier83> what is the graphic card brand on the client?[16:08:39] <Olivier83> gpu type?[16:11:48] <Olivier83> sometimes I have to disable the GPU rendering[16:11:54] <Olivier83> to make it more stable[16:12:23] <Olivier83> and I always lose the registry key to disable it[16:14:17] <Olivier83> Under Computer Configuration-> Administrative Templates -> Citrix Receiver -> User Experience, open Hardware Acceleration for graphics. Select Disabled and click OK.[16:14:27] <Olivier83> This could help.... maybe[16:32:11] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> regular intel graphics card. nothing special[16:32:46] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> I can replicate it on different client hardware regardless of the video card. But it is a good point[16:38:31] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> quick question[16:39:11] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> anyone have any issues with Windows 10 persistent VDA where the start and taskbar icons don't save for users? i am using Citrix UPM..i tried a bunch of different stuff but cant get it to work.[16:59:57] <guideX> no one seems to log off of store front, they all like leave a session open everyday, and then I have to log them off via appcenter[17:00:21] <guideX> besides like, shaming them publicly over email or something, what can I do to stop them from doing that[17:01:08] <Biny> put a timeout policy in place? default is 5min[17:02:44] <guideX> I do have the "Session idle timer" enabled in the policies[17:03:02] <guideX> the "Disconnect a workstation session when idle for a certain amount of time[17:03:32] <guideX> and then the interval set to 30 minutes[17:05:14] <guideX> I don't see a "Force them to log out" kinda policy though, maybe that's more on the active directory side[17:22:55] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> is it a bad idea to redirect folders for persistent windows 10 VDAs?[17:24:04] <Olivier83> ?[17:24:17] <Olivier83> it is a good idea to redirect folders for any type of VDA[17:24:31] <Olivier83> I would say[17:27:50] <cs-bot> <jariangibson> https://twitter.com/leeejeffries/status/1106453984771010560?s=21[17:28:15] <cs-bot> <jariangibson> Good initiative if you are looking to learn Citrix Cloud.[17:29:54] <Olivier83> thanks, I just subscribed[17:30:53] <tabularasa> thanks jarian[17:31:29] *** BGL <BGL!~twenty@75-149-171-58-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #Citrix[17:45:08] <cs-bot> <atum> Tabularasa it is sad and a hard day indeed. We are safe but our hearts go out to those affected.[17:46:45] <cs-bot> <atum> Biny ^[17:47:35] <Biny> found the culprit. multiple hop wfica32's[17:50:00] <tabularasa> @atum good[17:51:19] <cs-bot> <atum> Up since 4:30 but I don't know how to do the coffee.. Tempted to wake my wife since it's most 6...[17:51:26] <cs-bot> <atum> :p[17:51:33] <tabularasa> don't know how to coffee? what what?[17:51:40] <Olivier83> making coffee can be difficult[17:52:05] <cs-bot> <atum> She doesn't let me do anything domestic[17:52:40] <cs-bot> <atum> And it's not ground filter coffee.. There's multiple steps involved[17:53:23] <cs-bot> <atum> Ha she just woke on her own problem solved[17:54:16] <cs-bot> <benjamin.crill> without coffee in the morning i'm..........well i'm a very unhappy person[17:59:09] <Olivier83> coffee + painkillers some day[17:59:15] <Olivier83> *days[18:19:44] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:32:39] <Biny> @atum plex work ok for you over the ocean?![18:34:34] <BobFrankly> I setup openvpn at home last night. Now I can watch my Sharks on the road.[18:34:44] <Biny> sharks? oh, sports.[18:34:49] <BobFrankly> yes sports[18:34:56] * Biny throws a sportsball at BobFrankly[18:35:04] <tabularasa> why did you need openvpn?[18:35:06] <BobFrankly> it would be a sportspuck, and ow[18:35:44] <tabularasa> lazyman on plex works great[18:35:46] <BobFrankly> tabularasa: because the only streaming option in my region for the local team is comcast, and you have to be in your house on the comcast network[18:36:04] <tabularasa> ahhh[18:36:21] <tabularasa> i pay for the nhl.tv package for the penguins[18:36:25] <tabularasa> but also use lazyman[18:36:35] <tabularasa> it's only $99/year for a 1 team thing... so, worth it[18:40:32] <BobFrankly> tabularasa: are you in the locality of pittsburgh?[18:40:51] <tabularasa> lol, no[18:40:54] <tabularasa> i'm in SC[18:41:00] <BobFrankly> that's why you can nhl[18:41:16] <tabularasa> yeah, isn't their blackout shit insane?[18:41:31] <tabularasa> i get blacked out when we play the hurricanes... that's 4 hours away[18:41:36] <tabularasa> FOUR HOURS[18:41:50] <BobFrankly> yeah, so nhl.tv is useless for watching the sharks for me[18:42:01] <tabularasa> good point[18:42:11] <tabularasa> openvpn ftw. :)[18:42:16] <BobFrankly> how's lazyman work?[18:42:52] <tabularasa> you run it, it plays hockey[18:43:13] <BobFrankly> trying to get past the fact that it's coded in java[18:43:23] <tabularasa> i know, right?[19:37:15] *** quantumcupcake <quantumcupcake!~quantumcu@gateway/tor-sasl/quantumcupcake> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:43:20] <cs-bot> <atum> Plex is OK if I set it to 10mbps. Quality isn't the best but there's loads of stuff not on Netflix so it works.[19:44:53] <cs-bot> <atum> Can't wait for my stuff to clear customs... Container has been in port for 9 days supposedly[19:44:59] <Biny> mr. 4k tv over there[19:45:36] <cs-bot> <atum> My daughter ran away crying at 4mps saying her eyes hurt due to artifacting lol[19:46:05] <BobFrankly> bwahaha[19:46:06] <cs-bot> <atum> You. Might check transcode settings and set to make it hurt. More cpu but better results for the bw :p[19:46:25] <tabularasa> not your CPU, who cares... lol[19:46:30] * tabularasa hids from biny[19:46:37] <cs-bot> <atum> Haha right[19:46:48] <cs-bot> <atum> <3[19:48:12] <Biny> if you have the bandwidth 'direct' should be doable[19:49:11] <Biny> but my transcoders on automatic, so it can 'make it hurt' if it neede to[19:49:32] *** quantumcupcake <quantumcupcake!~quantumcu@gateway/tor-sasl/quantumcupcake> has joined #Citrix[19:49:51] <tabularasa> what kind of CPU you running in your setup?[19:49:55] <Biny> but if i had ot guess; it's the CPU doing hardware transcoding since this doesnt have a gpu[19:50:06] <tabularasa> i'm looking to move mine off my personal PC, but it's hard to move away from a 1700X and 1060....[19:50:13] <Biny> i7 4790k[19:51:32] <tabularasa> nice[19:52:31] <Biny> i could of either 1) paid $50/mo for unlimited bandwidth and ran my own server at home, which would cost a ton[19:53:12] <Biny> or 2) just rent a VPS[19:53:16] <tabularasa> how much is the VPS?[19:53:26] <tabularasa> i have $150/month in Azure credits...[19:53:35] <tabularasa> :)[19:54:55] <Biny> $53/mo[19:55:15] <tabularasa> and it's an i7?[19:55:17] <tabularasa> wow[19:55:17] <Biny> yep[19:55:23] <Biny> 240gb ssd, 32gb ram[19:55:29] <tabularasa> then you do unlimited storage through google?[19:55:31] <Biny> 500/500 bandwidth[19:55:33] <Biny> yep[19:55:40] <tabularasa> this is AWS, right?[19:55:43] <Biny> nope, OVH[19:55:48] <Biny> can do it wherever[19:55:53] <Biny> just need a linux box[19:55:54] <tabularasa> OVH?[19:56:19] <Biny> https://www.soyoustart.com/us/game-servers/[19:56:42] <tabularasa> ahhh[19:56:53] <Biny> $53/mo for the box, $10/mo for unlimited storage on google[19:57:07] <tabularasa> damn, i'm going to take a serious look at this in Azure with my free credits[19:57:17] <tabularasa> though, outbound bandwidth may kill me[19:57:20] <Biny> just need a linux box, it's incredibly easy to get up and going[19:57:31] <Biny> for google though, you have to download _EVERYTHING_ that gets served[19:57:36] <Biny> then it uploads to the viewer[19:57:45] <Biny> so a 10mbps file, takes 10mb symmetrical[19:57:47] <Biny> unless its transcoding[19:57:57] <Biny> then its whatever the reduced outbound is[19:58:33] * tabularasa nods[19:58:46] <tabularasa> i could just buy a NUC too.. haha[19:58:52] <tabularasa> and use my gig and NAS[19:59:08] <Biny> according to my library, i'm at 118tb[20:00:29] <tabularasa> good lord[21:33:03] *** Stedlo <Stedlo!~IceChat9@cpe-69-23-76-23.new.res.rr.com> has joined #Citrix[21:58:10] *** pengu <pengu!~pengu@2a01:c22:b035:aa00:68c6:3f9d:c684:66e> has joined #Citrix[22:00:56] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nkbvggnjamesrlar> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[22:08:58] *** SuicideJ4ck <SuicideJ4ck!~SuicideJ4@199.4.143.205> has joined #Citrix[22:10:21] *** Suic1deJ4ck <Suic1deJ4ck!~SuicideJ4@199.4.143.205> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:50:38] *** pengu <pengu!~pengu@2a01:c22:b035:aa00:68c6:3f9d:c684:66e> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:25:48] *** ftho <ftho!~ftho@mailgw.f-thornberg.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)