March 14, 2019 
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March 14, 2019 [03:18:58] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kbjubrdwbuhnpxbv> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[05:06:37] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.29.171> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:06:30] *** ftho <ftho!~ftho@mailgw.f-thornberg.se> has joined #Citrix[10:02:28] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has joined #Citrix[10:38:47] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pcnepfmlxyfnkyqr> has joined #Citrix[11:09:04] *** hardlock <hardlock!~hl@81.6.37.6> has quit IRC ()[11:19:05] *** hardlock <hardlock!~hl@81.6.37.6> has joined #Citrix[11:24:49] <Olivier83> I have a Windows Server 2016 start menu customization project \o/[11:25:00] <Olivier83> I tried to configure it with WEM yesterday but didn't work[11:25:14] <Olivier83> the "clean up start menu" and adding apps didn't work out of the box[11:25:24] <Olivier83> the apps could be pinned to the taskbar (so it was working)[11:25:46] <Olivier83> but the Start Menu was not being customized by WEM so I will have to spend some time on it[11:25:58] <Olivier83> still, I think that the tile view is probably the most intuitive view for the users[11:27:33] <Olivier83> like this: https://tof.cx/image/dRzby[11:32:55] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.29.171> has joined #Citrix[11:34:56] *** tammy <tammy!~tammy@81.4.122.111> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[11:35:18] *** tammy <tammy!~tammy@81.4.122.111> has joined #Citrix[11:39:20] <Olivier83> Very strange...[11:39:29] <Olivier83> I have a user who can't be logged off and stuck[11:39:37] <Olivier83> so usually I turn maintenance mode on the XA server[11:39:44] <Olivier83> so the user will be able to connect to another server[11:39:52] <Olivier83> but this morning even with maintenance mode turned on[11:40:07] <Olivier83> the user is still reconnecting on the faulty server[11:40:27] <Olivier83> it's like the maintenance mode is not applied on the server[11:41:06] <Olivier83> but it's on the controller so the user should not be brokered to the faulty server[12:04:00] <hardlock> if he has a session on it, it will just reconnect him to the faulty worker[12:04:08] <hardlock> ive seen ghost sessions in the past too[12:04:36] <Olivier83> hmmm[12:04:42] <Olivier83> usually when you enable maintenance mode[12:04:45] <hardlock> btw: i disable tiles completely on xenapp. i dont have patience to set this up. this is so crappy and time consuming[12:04:53] <Olivier83> users won't reconnect to the faulty server[12:05:29] <hardlock> https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX217239[12:05:32] <hardlock> its documented[12:05:41] <hardlock> With Server OS machines, users can connect to existing sessions but cannot start new sessions.[12:05:47] <hardlock> you must logoff the user[12:06:15] <Olivier83> !!!![12:07:02] <hardlock> this was possible with appcenter in xenapp 6.5[12:07:07] <Olivier83> I was sure of the contrary[12:07:10] <Olivier83> damn[12:07:20] <Olivier83> yes in this case the user could not be logged off[12:07:23] <hardlock> prohibit logons and reconnections was an option there[12:07:34] <hardlock> not possible with 7.x[12:07:38] <Olivier83> but this option is gone? yes[12:07:41] <hardlock> but im sure they will reinvent the wheel[12:07:50] <hardlock> like they did the last years[12:07:55] <Olivier83> that's bad indeed[12:08:05] <Olivier83> I was struggling with this ghost session...[12:08:10] <hardlock> you dont need a faulty session anyway[12:08:18] <hardlock> just log the user off and he will get a good one[12:08:28] <Olivier83> yes but I had this case when you can't log it off[12:08:48] <Olivier83> the command will be unresponsive and the server will not logoff the user[12:08:50] <hardlock> in that case i try to kill processes of that user untill it logs off[12:09:07] <hardlock> and try to log the user off in taskmgr instead of director[12:09:24] <hardlock> if the server still is alive. if not. reboot the server[12:09:24] <Olivier83> this is what I've done, some processes were respawning so I was logging off the user and killing processes via taskmanager[12:09:36] <Olivier83> until it finally gets off for good[12:09:49] <hardlock> i had ghost sessions without active processes too in the past[12:09:59] <hardlock> restarting the broker services can help then[12:10:05] <Olivier83> but I was so sure that you could just prohibit reconnection via the maintenance emode[12:10:14] <hardlock> but how?[12:10:21] <hardlock> maybe with powershell?[12:10:26] <hardlock> maintenance mode does not do that[12:10:40] <Olivier83> no it doesn't I've just experienced it now[12:20:33] <Olivier83> interesting I will ask the question[12:20:51] <Olivier83> if we can actually prohibit reconnections from a XenApp vda[12:27:49] <hardlock> https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2013/03/14/how-to-put-xenapp-servers-to-maintenance-mode/[12:28:10] <hardlock> Set-XAServerLogOnMode[12:28:15] <hardlock> https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX208524[12:28:29] <hardlock> or the registry keys they mention in that articles[12:30:41] <kahnibus> yawnnn[12:34:01] <Olivier83> ok I will test this[12:57:26] <Olivier83> so this command doesn't exist anymore[12:57:30] <Olivier83> in XA 7.17[13:03:54] <hardlock> i actually think this command is only for 6.5[13:04:00] <hardlock> but the article lists 7.8 too[13:04:38] <hardlock> most likely it changes the registry keys only anyway[13:05:55] <ftho> Olivier83, have you RDP:d to the server in question to logoff user / terminate processes that holds the session?[13:07:52] <Olivier83> yes I did but on this server we actually cannot logoff anyone[13:08:04] <Olivier83> the server is faulty and will be rebooted tonight[13:08:14] <Olivier83> I am just prohibiting new logons with the maintenance mode on[13:08:21] <ftho> great[13:08:40] <Olivier83> I'm just surprised that you can't prohibit reconnections too but well... only on xendesktop apparently[13:09:05] <ftho> yepp, prohibit new connections..[13:29:43] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ibihsjeoqljmaefx> has joined #Citrix[13:46:38] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:57:40] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has joined #Citrix[14:09:13] <Olivier83> so managing tiles is a waste of time?[14:09:17] <Olivier83> in the Start Menu[14:24:46] *** marie1972 <marie1972!~changeme@cpe-72-128-5-100.kc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[14:48:51] *** Thuryn <Thuryn!~Thuryn@216.106.72.146.reverse.socket.net> has joined #Citrix[14:48:59] <tabulara1a> morning peeps[14:50:55] <Olivier83> hello[14:55:18] <braynyac> morning[14:55:36] <braynyac> Olivier83: I'd like to know that too. We're working on that today - customizing 2016 Start Menu with WEM.[14:55:50] <braynyac> I think we're going to go for bare-bones, then use WEM to populate[15:03:55] <Biny> naked servers, ahhh![15:04:26] <braynyac> oh?[15:06:56] <Biny> bare bones![15:16:47] <braynyac> Yah, but why?[15:16:55] <braynyac> Are these the new NTX boxes?[15:19:33] <BobFrankly> braynyac: let me know how that goes. I tried using the file export ala windows 10 but 2016 didn't support that last year[15:19:46] <BobFrankly> I was trying to customize the tiles :P[15:25:11] <Biny> braynyac ╡I think we're going to go for bare-bones, then use WEM to populate[15:41:35] <Olivier83> I think that tiles is what you need to do[15:41:38] <Olivier83> for the user experience[15:41:51] <Olivier83> they were using a classic start menu before (classic shell) in Windows 2012[15:41:57] <Olivier83> but it doesn't work anymore in 2016[15:42:14] <Olivier83> so they removed the tiles and just kept the "all apps" list but they have a lot of complains[15:42:35] <Olivier83> from people that really do not like the "all apps" view and ergonomy[15:43:07] <Olivier83> but I think it's because you have to use the tiles like this: https://tof.cx/image/dRzby[15:43:24] <Olivier83> but not sure if you can populate the tiles with app groups via WEM[16:15:49] <BobFrankly> freaking xenserver. try to copy vmdisk to new lun, it fails, but still takes up the space even though theres no disk in the view...[16:25:19] <braynyac> Well, we're going to find out...[16:26:03] <braynyac> and thanks to @Biny I have visions of naked servers dancing in my head[16:26:51] <BobFrankly> that sounds like a Biny contribution[16:35:38] <cs-bot> <benjamin.crill> Better than naked server admins dancing[16:37:17] <BobFrankly> /kick benjamin.crill[16:39:22] <braynyac> lol[16:39:46] <tabulara1a> heh[16:47:43] <Olivier83> I'm sending this proposition to my client for his new Citrix Windows 2016 Start Menu design and management: - Page1: https://tof.cx/image/dYhG4 - Page2: https://tof.cx/image/dYUDf[16:49:05] <Olivier83> a bit risky but I want the tiles :D[16:50:23] <braynyac> Olivier: second page on the Page 1 image - change XLM to XML for file type[16:51:30] <braynyac> whoops - that was for @Olivier83[16:52:29] <braynyac> I like the All Apps view - that 's more what our users are accustomed to. I can't imagine moving everyone to the tile layout[16:54:36] <Olivier83> ah thanks[16:56:04] <Olivier83> for this organization they don't like it very much compared to the old Windows 7 Start Menu[16:56:10] <Olivier83> (which I can understand)[17:02:40] <tabulara1a> There doesn't seem to be any repeating sessions this year for Synergy... wth[17:11:12] <Biny> great job "phishing" email.[17:11:18] <Biny> https://i.imgur.com/axJjfYh.png[17:21:32] <tabulara1a> seems legit?[17:23:51] <Biny> its an email equivalent of a newspaper ransom note[17:51:30] <Olivier83> lol[17:56:09] <Biny> anyone run into print driver installing continuously with drvinst.exe even though the drivers are already installed?[17:56:25] <Biny> getting spoolsvc/drvinst.exe attacking our farm trying to install drivers[17:56:45] <tabulara1a> you got in-box printer driver installation policy enabled?[17:56:54] <BobFrankly> Oliver: have you been able to control the tiles via XML?[17:57:20] <Biny> tabulara1a: no, but we pre-publish all printers with WEM to avoid this, thinking that's not the right way[17:57:22] <BobFrankly> *in 2016*[17:59:12] <Biny> disabled[18:04:02] <Olivier83> BobFrankly: only when it's locked down via GPO with a mandatory XML file[18:04:30] <Olivier83> but if we want something a bit more dynamic I'll to make some tests[18:05:03] <BobFrankly> that's good to hear, when I tested it last year, it wouldn't take a dang thing[18:05:24] <BobFrankly> tried placing it in the default profile, GPO, nuthin[18:15:00] <Olivier83> do you redirect the start menu?[18:15:13] <Olivier83> I think that this isn't support in 2016[18:16:30] <Olivier83> you need the apps to be in the "All apps" list to appear as Tiles or it won't work[18:16:35] <Olivier83> (also)[18:17:27] <Biny> tabulara1a: should i _not_ pre-install any printer drivers and just let the citrix universal driver handle it?[18:20:25] <Olivier83> \o/ see you tomorrow[18:20:28] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:29:07] *** Thuryn <Thuryn!~Thuryn@216.106.72.146.reverse.socket.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:47:24] <kahnibus> Soooooo, where would I look to set the desktop resolution for "all users" of a published desktops? i.e. when customers use Chrome to launch a desktop how can I enforce it to be 1280 x 720[18:56:43] <braynyac> uugghhhh....just took the plunge and moved to Chrome within my published desktop (for my use)...from Firefox. We'll see how this goes...[18:57:03] <braynyac> kahnibus: I'm not sure that's possible. I thought HTML5 went to size of frame within Chrome tab?[18:58:26] <kahnibus> I have a client who basically has to use a published desktop to launch RDP (yes within that published desktop)[18:58:58] <braynyac> got it. We're similar that way.[18:59:03] <kahnibus> the resolution on that RDP session is not correct ....the vendor blames Citrix or Chrome[18:59:23] <braynyac> so...resolution of the published desktop is OK, but resolution of RDP within the desktop is not?[18:59:28] <kahnibus> yeah it's a head scratcher for me because in my minds eye if feel like it should be easy peasssy[19:00:19] <kahnibus> yea...but if the resolution of the published desktop is set I believe when they launch RDP it will scale to the properly scaled resolution of the desktop[19:00:49] <kahnibus> orrrrrr i am just wishful and am going down a spiral hole which will most certainly end with an adult beverage of four tonight[19:01:58] <kahnibus> i read this... l https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX116357[19:02:14] <kahnibus> goes into tweaking the StoreFronts[19:09:33] <kahnibus> hmmm so I think I can just create an RDP file and put it on the published desktop and in that have the specified resolution.[19:14:38] *** tammy is now known as IRCPrincess[19:19:34] <tabulara1a> heh, nice[19:19:39] *** tabulara1a is now known as tabularasa[19:21:58] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.29.171> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:24:02] <Biny> rala rala rala[19:34:58] <tabularasa> la la la ?[19:35:00] <tabularasa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVQQUKRfWQ[19:37:59] *** Quimby <Quimby!~Quimby@91.250.80.16> has joined #Citrix[19:47:53] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pcnepfmlxyfnkyqr> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[19:56:36] *** Thuryn <Thuryn!~Thuryn@216.106.72.146.reverse.socket.net> has joined #Citrix[20:23:49] <Biny> AZIZ! LIGHT![20:24:20] <BobFrankly> haha[20:24:27] <BobFrankly> VRRRRRM![20:24:33] <BobFrankly> "thank you aziz"[20:24:36] <BobFrankly> ???[20:30:12] <tabularasa> so weird[20:32:23] <BobFrankly> tabularasa: I know I am, but it doesn't mean I like having it announced[20:39:00] <|Atum|> FRIDAYYYY FRIIIIDAYYY[20:39:12] * |Atum| goes looking for that Rebecca Black song[20:39:16] <tabularasa> NOES!!!![20:39:17] <tabularasa> haha[20:39:26] <|Atum|> The best part about living in the future is I get Friday before you all :p[20:40:00] <tabularasa> yes, i am slightly jealous of that[20:40:07] <tabularasa> warm me when the end of the world happens, please[20:40:50] <BobFrankly> he also gets monday before the rest of us[20:41:00] <BobFrankly> I consider that fair[20:41:11] <Biny> |Atum|: http://rebecca.blackfriday[20:43:22] <tabularasa> i wonder how fat she is now[20:54:38] <Biny> anyone know how task manager calculates cpu%? because it can't add.[20:54:50] <Biny> https://i.imgur.com/0yylkHu.png[20:55:35] <|Atum|> Cloud-pocolypse tomorrow[20:55:40] <tabularasa> i've noticed that too, honestly...[20:55:53] <|Atum|> I sense some billable hours in my future :p https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX247067[20:56:09] <tabularasa> haha, right?[20:56:35] <Biny> |Atum|: ewll it's 3/15 there already[20:56:37] <Biny> so did it die?[20:56:42] <Biny> TELL US, OH FUTURE MAN[20:57:37] <|Atum|> Also who decided friday was a good day for a major change?[20:57:50] <|Atum|> Biny: Its still 14 March according to Citrix :-p[20:58:03] <Biny> bah[20:58:06] <tabularasa> read only fridays god damn it![21:21:33] *** IRCPrincess is now known as tammy[22:01:38] *** ftho <ftho!~ftho@mailgw.f-thornberg.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:18:59] *** Thuryn <Thuryn!~Thuryn@216.106.72.146.reverse.socket.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:22:56] <BobFrankly> oh neat, I've got alerts in my inbox from and order I placed tommorow[22:23:30] <BobFrankly> with apple. The company in the same time zone I am.[22:23:45] <BobFrankly> <delete>[22:26:37] <cs-bot> <benjamin.crill> machine learning has told them what you will buy and when[23:07:02] <BobFrankly> machine learning doesn't work with me[23:50:02] *** hardlock <hardlock!~hl@81.6.37.6> has quit IRC ()