March 7, 2019 
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March 7, 2019 [00:07:04] <SixStr> exit[00:07:08] *** SixStr <SixStr!~SixStr@pool-100-2-219-130.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.4)[01:02:13] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tddrwzjekuznvfps> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:59:20] *** uncon <uncon!~uncon@40.52.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)[03:00:52] *** uncon <uncon!~uncon@40.52.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com> has joined #Citrix[04:06:48] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> hello[04:06:52] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> anyone there?[05:26:32] *** ujjain <ujjain!~ujjain@unaffiliated/ujjain> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[05:26:32] *** BGL <BGL!fifty@75-149-171-58-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[05:26:32] *** tris <tris!tristan@camel.ethereal.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[05:26:32] *** kambiz <kambiz!~kambiz@funcamp.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[05:53:41] *** ujjain <ujjain!~ujjain@unaffiliated/ujjain> has joined #Citrix[05:53:41] *** BGL <BGL!fifty@75-149-171-58-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #Citrix[05:53:41] *** tris <tris!tristan@camel.ethereal.net> has joined #Citrix[05:53:41] *** kambiz <kambiz!~kambiz@funcamp.net> has joined #Citrix[09:51:04] *** Grelot <Grelot!sid37615@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tmgohuxauaaecvtk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:51:16] *** Grelot <Grelot!sid37615@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ttsjlbcuqiqtjtsb> has joined #Citrix[10:44:55] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has joined #Citrix[11:21:06] *** SuicideJ4ck <SuicideJ4ck!~SuicideJ4@199.4.143.205> has joined #Citrix[11:22:08] *** Suic1deJ4ck <Suic1deJ4ck!~SuicideJ4@199.4.143.205> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:11:45] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.29.171> has joined #Citrix[12:39:38] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:52:12] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has joined #Citrix[15:01:12] *** SuicideJ4ck <SuicideJ4ck!~SuicideJ4@199.4.143.205> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:10:34] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sklygygzfgxkurjg> has joined #Citrix[15:10:46] <braynyac> morning everyone[15:19:28] <tammy> merry morning[15:27:05] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> mornin[15:27:30] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> i think i figured out my licensing issue from yesterday?[15:30:27] <Olivier83> hi[15:35:58] <tammy> hi[15:35:59] <tammy> think?[15:37:41] <Biny> mornin[16:05:58] <tabularasa> morning peeps[16:06:08] <tabularasa> another 2 hours presentation done. another one at 1pm.. my voice is going[16:20:10] <zyphaz> better go catch it[16:20:14] <zyphaz> g'morning[16:23:50] <tabularasa> heh[16:28:16] <Biny> tabularasa: should of just recorded yourself![16:28:40] <tabularasa> like anyone would watch it.. hard enough to keep their attention in the room itself[16:28:52] <Biny> ha, wtf do you have to train on in 2hr blocks anyway?[16:29:16] <tabularasa> it's a 4 hours training presentation on how our Hosted Desktop product works.[16:29:25] <tabularasa> meeting[16:29:28] <Biny> gross[16:44:12] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> hi gang. Anyone seen issue with VDIs going blackscreen in VMware console right after windows 10 logo. Citrix session wont work, but RDP works fine.[16:44:17] <braynyac> Who are you training / presenting to?[16:44:32] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> for now all I can do to fix is to uninstall VDA to get console back[16:44:36] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> and then reinstall VDA[16:45:13] <braynyac> @masterslacker: that's interesting. VDA version?[16:45:21] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> this is with XD7.15CU3 and VMware 6.5 using EFI[16:45:34] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> it gets better[16:45:53] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> sometimes I can make a clone of "broken" vdi and clone works fine[16:46:02] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> does not work all the time[16:46:17] <braynyac> How are you configuring ListofDDCs?[16:46:26] <braynyac> sounds like it might not be registering correctly?[16:47:08] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> btaynyac, thats DDC question is not to me, right?[16:47:22] <braynyac> masterslacker - it was to you[16:47:54] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> ITs registering just fine and attempts to start HDX session. Get stuck in gray screen[16:48:02] <braynyac> ah[16:48:04] <braynyac> hmmm[16:48:04] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> but what do DDCs have to do with console black screen[16:48:14] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> I have 3 DDCs in the registry[16:48:37] <braynyac> Not sure - I know that our Win16's don't show anything on console (some registry setting somewhere), figured that might pop up.[16:48:54] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> As soon as VDA cleanup removes the display drivers for Citrix, Console returns[16:49:07] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> its like some API hooks lock console on load[16:49:18] <braynyac> Can you try an older VDA?[16:49:21] <braynyac> Or a newer one?[16:49:58] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> I could, but once reinstalled chances of issue returning are slim[16:50:23] <braynyac> persistent VM? MCS? PVS?[16:50:33] <braynyac> Anything in the event logs?[16:50:39] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> persistent vms[16:50:44] <braynyac> ah[16:50:45] <braynyac> interesting[16:50:50] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> few HDX display driver errors[16:51:08] <braynyac> Is it interfering with something else (like AV?)?[16:51:09] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> now that I have a broken clone, I can dig deeper[16:51:18] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> previously 3 attempts, clone worked fine[16:52:40] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> I wish thre was a way to just reinstall HDX display driver[16:52:57] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> let me extract VDA installer and see if its there[16:53:18] <braynyac> Can't you just uninstall from the device manager and let it reinstall? I doubt the actual driver files are corrupted...[16:55:08] <braynyac> you can login via RDP, correct?[16:55:32] <braynyac> I like your idea, reinstall HDX display driver - that way you can script it[16:55:54] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> RDP works fine[16:56:30] <braynyac> Ok. Which means you could test that theory - uninstall the HDX display driver.[16:57:26] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> yep, just need to dig out the installer[16:58:24] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> glad to see /export still works :slightly_smiling_face:[17:03:23] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> icaWS_x64 sounds right?[17:04:21] <Olivier83> can you restart the VM in VGA mode with failsafe drivers?[17:04:50] <Olivier83> then you should see the console if it's the display driver causing the issue[17:10:50] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> makes sense, will have to give it a try in a bit. I though I tried it already, but worth another try. Getting into safe mode using UEFI and Flush is annoying. Need desktop access. So I need to re-IP the clone, or cants RDP to it :P[17:13:58] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> well, reinstalling icaWS_x64 seems to fix the issue[17:14:30] <Olivier83> You can reboot in VGA mode from Windows / msconfig / boot / base video[17:14:33] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> my console was back up before installer completed the reboot[17:14:39] <Olivier83> nice[17:15:09] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> Olivier83, I would need to get to desktop first. By my clone has same IP as prod VDI that I already released to the customer[17:15:34] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> so I need to tell him to jump off, so I can turn my clone on and change IP[17:15:51] <Olivier83> Ok[17:17:27] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> might have spoke too soon[17:17:37] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> after reboot console went lack again[17:17:54] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> that is just wierd[17:18:01] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> trying safe mode now[17:21:44] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> above said "...console went black..." and dont want come back...[17:23:40] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> safe mode comes up fine[17:24:29] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> something sends a signal to Citrix display driver to mask console screen as it does during HDX session[17:24:40] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> except CTRL+ALT+DEL dont work[17:24:46] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> to wake it up[17:28:26] <Olivier83> is it frozen?[17:28:32] <zyphaz> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YKGvSXkj/image.png[17:29:19] <Olivier83> :)[17:30:12] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> console is, as in black screen and nothing[17:35:26] <Olivier83> Did you boot with base video only? (not safe mode)[17:35:34] <Olivier83> http://vmtoday.com/2012/12/conflicting-guidance-on-no-gui-boot-and-base-video-settings-for-vmware-view-desktops/[17:36:21] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> aha![17:36:24] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> Attempts to connect to a Windows 10 Version 1709 published desktop through a user device might result in a gray screen. When you attempt to connect through the hypervisor's console to a published desktop, a black screen with a spinning wheel appears. However, connecting through an RDP to a published desktop works successfully.[17:36:41] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX232804[17:36:53] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> exact issue I am having[17:37:25] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> PS, sorry, while 98% of my VDAs are 7.15CU3, this one is 7.16[17:38:20] <Olivier83> So this bug has been fixed in 7.15 but is back in 7.16?[17:38:46] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> yep[17:38:49] <tabularasa> 7.16 came out before CU1....[17:38:52] <tabularasa> that makes perfect sense[17:39:01] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> but in reality, I think 7.15CU1 is newer then 7.16[17:39:08] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> CU3 being the latest[17:39:13] <tabularasa> exactly[17:39:23] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> right on[17:40:00] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> so my fix to remove old VDA and install CU3 is pretty much Citrix recommended fix. Great![17:40:06] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> so much time waisted[17:42:24] <Olivier83> but you say that some VMs are OK[17:42:33] <Olivier83> and are not impacted[17:42:52] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> right, probably the 98% of 7.16CU3 VDAs :slightly_smiling_face:[17:43:01] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> I only had 3 user complain[17:43:13] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> 2 had 7.18 version[17:43:17] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> this one was 7.16[17:43:32] <tabularasa> 7.16 CU3?[17:43:37] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> so I will not be surprised if this issue will resurface at some point[17:43:44] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> there is no 7.16 CU3[17:43:47] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> 7.15 CU3[17:43:51] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> sorry[17:43:53] <tabularasa> i figured. :p[17:43:54] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> so i am trying to see the best way to incorporate new w10 vda's into this client environment when it comes to UPM. Should i create entirely new UPM policies? or just use the existing one? should the w10 and w2016 be seperated?[17:43:54] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> typo above[17:45:18] <Olivier83> <sting19982002> the UPM policies are compatible between versions so you should be able to keep the old one[17:46:16] <Olivier83> <sting19982002> I would say it is recommended to keep the profiles separated for each OS so yes the W10 and W2016 should be separated[17:46:27] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> yeah, but they shouldn't share the same UPM store, correct? and UPM won't seperate them between w10 and w2016[17:46:53] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> Does the UPM do that automatically[17:47:29] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> or will i have to make a change to the existing policy[17:47:41] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> for those using Win10 VDIs, here is a list of bugs and potential fixes https://www.jgspiers.com/citrix-fixes-windows10/[17:49:28] <Olivier83> <sting19982002> you can append the OS short name with adding this tag to the UPM store path: !CTX_OSNAME!, so for example[17:49:42] <Olivier83> \\server\profiles$\%USERNAME%.%USERDOMAIN%\!CTX_OSNAME!!CTX_OSBITNESS! might expand to \\server\profiles$\JohnSmith.Finance\Win8x64[17:50:20] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> thanks but won't that make a change to the existing W2k16 profiles?[17:51:00] <Olivier83> it will make a change so you could only apply this UPM policy for W10 machine catalogues[17:51:17] <Olivier83> if you want to keep your W2016 intact[17:52:05] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> so i need seperate policy then?[17:52:56] <Olivier83> yes you will need an additional policy[17:53:03] <Olivier83> but if you want a single policy then you have the option quoted above[17:54:52] <cs-bot> <sting19982002> i am little confused. so if i use the single policy won't that change the way the w2k16 upm folder are working. what existing users get new folders then after i make the change?[17:59:30] <Olivier83> If you modify the existing policy then all users will get new profiles[18:00:53] <Olivier83> If you are introducing new Windows 10 machines[18:01:16] <Olivier83> you will need to have a different UPM store[18:02:06] <Olivier83> to keep the profiles separate[18:02:13] <Olivier83> now you can keep the current W2016 profiles[18:02:39] <Olivier83> do not update the current UPM policy in place, and add another policy only for the Windows 10 VMs[18:05:57] <Olivier83> I misread your question initially, I thought you were upgrading your environment, and UPM policies are compatible between upgrades (you can keep old policies it will work)[18:10:00] <Olivier83> I hope that It's not too confusing[18:16:55] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:19:40] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has joined #Citrix[18:29:08] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!~Olivier83@31.221.4.66> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:34:27] * BobFrankly waves[18:39:25] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> Bob, adjust your antenna...[18:39:52] * BobFrankly bends it to the left[18:56:23] <BobFrankly> tabularasa: try this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G8Tmb84-Ms[18:58:36] <Biny> user has bee nwatching youtube/hulu/netflix at their desk on their phone..[18:58:55] <Biny> i blocked those protocols, 10 min later, helpdesk ticket pops in that the wifi isnt working[18:58:58] <Biny> bustedddddddddddddd[20:04:19] *** tammy is now known as tammy_[20:12:41] <cs-bot> <atum> @uncon how to make RADIUS auth policy with adv syntax? Trying to bind RDP pol to gateway and its bitching at me about mixing classic/adv[20:12:43] <cs-bot> <atum> > add authentication radiusPolicy rad-duo-webpol_adv "HTTP.REQ.HEADER(\"User-Agent\").CONTAINS(\"CitrixReceiver\").NOT" rad-duo ERROR: Invalid rule. >[20:16:33] <cs-bot> <atum> I Guess Ill have to convert all my policies to classic instead -.-[20:18:33] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> i am full of weird issues today. SEMS service causing problems with user logins.[20:19:30] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> then there is a ghost session that keeps on reconnecting with no user name and session id has only 3 processes csrss. winlogon and logonui[20:19:44] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> I kill it and it comes right back with different session id[20:24:14] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> that was SENS[20:47:19] <braynyac> Here's a fun one: Start a published desktop session (7.15, no CUs, 2008 R2) from WorkSpace App 1812. Move to a separate workstation running Receiver 4.4 and try to reconnect session. It hangs at the Windows loading screen (says Windows, circle turning under it). I know 4.4 isn't support, but we have a LOT 4.1 clients out there still, and it's what I have to test. This occurred _after_ enabling ThinWire ... <cont'd>[20:47:28] <braynyac> on the Delivery Group and disabling Legacy Graphics[20:58:45] <braynyac> got my duckduckgo on ... and answered my own question. Known problem, fixed in CU2.[20:59:07] <braynyac> or enable Legacy Graphics (ummm....not really an option, as that's what we're trying to get rid of)[21:22:13] <tabularasa> heh[21:22:32] <tabularasa> |Atum|: Did you ever get hooked up with my buddy?[21:41:27] <cs-bot> <atum> Tried to, got test creds, but win10 1803 tried forcing itself on me last night and kept hanging at 75%[21:41:34] <cs-bot> <atum> finally got it restored without it, but it took all night so i couldnt try[21:41:37] <cs-bot> <atum> will give it another go tonight[21:41:55] <Biny> *sometime tomorrow morning in the real world[21:41:58] <|Atum|> Does anyone know if changing 'ica only' to false interrupts existing settings?[21:42:03] <|Atum|> sessions*[21:42:12] <|Atum|> Or does anyone have a test env I can try that in ? :p[21:42:49] <Biny> let me change my prod server[21:42:50] <Biny> sec![21:42:54] <|Atum|> ty[21:43:01] <Biny> only 8 users on this vserver[21:43:06] <Biny> worst case is i get a phone call[21:43:18] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> I have some QA servers in the farm[21:43:26] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> what are you trying to change?[21:43:28] <|Atum|> If you're serious, ope na a session, uncheck it and see if theres a delay/interruption of any sort[21:43:41] <Biny> yeah im loading up[21:43:44] <|Atum|> i want to change ICA_ONLY TRUE to ICA_ONLY FALSE on a prod NSGW[21:43:58] <|Atum|> there are users on, so I need to know if theres any noticable affect or if it only affects new sessions[21:44:03] <|Atum|> effect[21:44:23] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> where are you changing that setting? NS?[21:44:47] <|Atum|> NSGW vserver -> "General settings" pencil -> ICA Only from "Checked" to "Unchecked"[21:45:13] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> does it matter what NSGW version?[21:45:15] <Biny> mines false right now[21:45:19] <Biny> so toggling to true[21:45:32] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> ok, looks like Biny got it[21:45:32] <|Atum|> change it to true, then launch incognito / make a session, then flip it to false :D[21:45:46] <Biny> i have an active sesion on it right now[21:46:09] <|Atum|> Yeah but I want to confirm that sessions created when it was TRUE will not be affecte[21:46:15] <Biny> right[21:46:18] <|Atum|> not so concerned with going from false to true :D[21:46:19] <Biny> i have one connected now as false[21:46:24] <Biny> i'll disconnect after i toggle if it doesnt boot me[21:46:26] <Biny> reconnect[21:46:30] <Biny> and then turn back off[21:46:37] <|Atum|> :thumbs_up:[21:46:51] <cs-bot> <atum> :thumbsup:[21:46:54] <Biny> no boot on false->true[21:46:56] <|Atum|> bah, no underscore :p[21:47:09] <|Atum|> any lag/delay clicking (i.e. session reliability kicking in?)[21:47:18] <Biny> didnt notice any[21:47:58] <Biny> disconected, reconnected[21:48:08] <Biny> turning back off[21:48:25] <Biny> no boot[21:48:32] <|Atum|> Awesome! Thanks for testing that for me[21:48:56] <|Atum|> My CVA lab vm decided to stop connecting to SQL server for some reason and i iddnt want toreinstall it all :D[21:49:01] <|Atum|> Thanks much![21:49:29] <tabularasa> |Atum|: thanks buddy. i owe you a couple beers. You coming to Synergy?[21:49:40] <|Atum|> na, not this year[21:49:45] <tabularasa> bummer.. :-/[21:49:46] <|Atum|> I've been to the last 8 conferences in a row[21:49:54] <|Atum|> my liver needs a break :D[21:50:43] <tabularasa> :)[21:52:24] <|Atum|> flight alone is $2-3k, then hotel, even if i scored a conference pass its pricy :p[21:52:33] <tabularasa> good lord! yeah, i get it[21:53:47] <|Atum|> heh and thats with 26-30hr travel time too of[21:54:09] <|Atum|> better to go next year to LAX i think :D[21:54:16] <|Atum|> CHC->AKL->LAX done[21:54:20] <|Atum|> ~15hr total[21:54:58] <|Atum|> instead of CHC->SYD->IAH->ATL[21:55:48] <|Atum|> or CHC->AKL->SFO->ATL[22:01:44] <tabularasa> that all sounds hideous[22:02:41] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has quit IRC (Quit: %Adieu! I have too grieved a heart to take a tedious leave.%)[22:02:49] <|Atum|> I left customer in Dunedin at 4:15 on Wednesday, drove 30 min to the airport out of the city, boarded a plane and got back to my house at 7:10pm. Thats arguably the same commute time as downtown seattle from my old place lol[22:03:37] <|Atum|> Seattle would be like ~15 min from customer to garage, ~25 min from garage to freeway, ~2.5 hours on the freeway[22:03:52] <|Atum|> (to go 30 miles)[22:07:34] <tabularasa> that's fucking crazy[22:08:31] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has joined #Citrix[22:10:43] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:11:05] *** yuljk <yuljk!~yuljk@unaffiliated/yuljk> has joined #Citrix[22:18:32] <|Atum|> yeah but they don't even grope you when going through airports here :'([22:22:41] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.29.171> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:27:46] <cs-bot> <masterxen> you miss the groping?[22:33:26] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> just take up BJJ and let TSA guy try groping you[22:33:48] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> not to be confused with just BJ[22:33:55] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> shut up Bob[22:34:01] <cs-bot> <masterslacker> I know what you thinking