February 23, 2018 
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February 23, 2018 [00:23:03] <citrixslackbot1> <atum> where are you seeing dec 2012?[00:49:00] *** Vapez <Vapez!~Vapez@unaffiliated/vapez> has joined #Citrix[01:16:50] *** hirogen <hirogen!hirogen@2.122.87.16> has quit IRC ()[01:23:22] *** zax1 <zax1!~zax1@90.199.169.246> has joined #Citrix[01:26:55] *** Vapez <Vapez!~Vapez@unaffiliated/vapez> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:27:36] *** jaelae <jaelae!uid177201@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nszutnanbxkdwyvw> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:36:34] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[02:38:04] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[04:16:30] *** nitram` <nitram`!~nitram@superblob.com> has joined #Citrix[04:20:27] *** nitram <nitram!~nitram@superblob.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:31:11] *** jaelae <jaelae!uid177201@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-narmisscpuvyumlu> has joined 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the connection)[10:55:24] *** ello_govna <ello_govna!ello_govna@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/ellogovna/x-42533607> has joined #Citrix[11:19:20] *** zax1_2 <zax1_2!~zax1@90.211.245.92> has joined #Citrix[11:20:05] *** zax1 <zax1!~zax1@90.199.169.246> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:32:50] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has joined #Citrix[12:14:54] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:58:39] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!~GenteelBe@cpc111801-lutn14-2-0-cust55.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #Citrix[14:00:33] <zax1_2> anyone installed celestix hotpin 3.7 lately ?[14:00:45] <zax1_2> (2fa provider )[14:00:58] <WyW> nope, never even heard of it[14:01:40] <zax1_2> we use it for most of our small businesses when 2fa is needed[14:02:19] <WyW> cheap?[14:02:29] <WyW> what's "small business" on your scale?[14:02:33] <zax1_2> up to 3.5 it was childplay, in 3.7 they added hardening and its making my install hard(end)[14:02:40] <zax1_2> up to 100 users[14:03:12] <WyW> there's a lot of SMS Passcode here[14:03:19] <WyW> but it's pretty expensive[14:03:38] <zax1_2> cheap and cheerful, next til finish, basic AD synch to the sec group that has the users, self service portal for users to mess about with pins and token[14:04:00] <zax1_2> its been sold, i have no way of chnaging it[14:04:18] <zax1_2> but now that im struggling i find their support options fairly limited[14:04:22] <WyW> just got info that we'll implement NS OTP at one customer[14:04:37] <WyW> google authenticator shenanigans[14:04:48] <zax1_2> loads of docs about usage, but none for install or troubleshooting[14:05:06] <zax1_2> okta is faily cute[14:08:21] <WyW> so you wouldn't recommend hotpin?[14:15:22] *** AnotherCTXadm <AnotherCTXadm!~anotherct@38.140.255.170> has joined #Citrix[14:28:14] <steeb`> meh[15:05:26] <tabularasa> morning peeps[15:14:36] <nikade> morning[15:23:36] <steeb`> https://www.reddit.com/r/Citrix/comments/6exw5o/citrix_wem_transformer_web_browser_not_picking_up/[15:23:43] <steeb`> I'm having the same issue as this[15:24:01] <steeb`> Anyone know of a fix to get the transformer to launch the receiver instead of the html5 version?[15:29:00] <tabularasa> turn of the html5 receiver on the server? :)[15:30:16] <steeb`> eh[15:30:21] <steeb`> not really an option[15:30:23] <WyW> if you need html5 for some use cases, create another store and direct the WEM users to a different store on NetScaler[15:30:26] <tabularasa> i won't be much help[15:30:34] <WyW> that has the html5 disabled[15:30:40] <tabularasa> not a terrible idea[15:30:59] <WyW> I've done that to couple of places[15:31:06] <steeb`> i thought about that[15:31:16] <WyW> directed the internal networks for instance to that store[15:44:04] <tabularasa> where's Bob?[15:44:07] <tabularasa> where's Atum?[15:44:15] <tabularasa> David62277: you around?[15:44:25] <tabularasa> got a fun powershell one.... more fslogix fun.[15:46:11] <tabularasa> so, i'm working on the issue where the junction points aren't there until you install onedrive, logout, then login[15:46:22] <tabularasa> so, i'm testing if i can make them manually and then it works..[15:47:01] <tabularasa> if that works, i'd like to automate it.. however, there's a path that has a variable that i'm wonderinf if powershell could figure out what it is and populate another field[15:50:11] <tabularasa> so, when you first connect, you can see the variable by doing an frx list-redirects[15:50:41] <tabularasa> \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Users\testuser\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook => \Device\HarddiskVolume6\ODFC\Device\HarddiskVolume2\Users\testuser\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook => \Device\HarddiskVolume6\ODFC\Device\HarddiskVolume2\Users\testuser\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook => \Device\HarddiskVolume6\ODFC[15:50:46] <tabularasa> oops, sorry[15:51:02] <tabularasa> so, that very last HarddiskVolume6... i need that 6... that can be anything[15:51:11] <tabularasa> and then put that 6 into the commands to map the OneDrive portions[15:51:25] <tabularasa> frx add-redirect -src "\Device\HarddiskVolume2\Users\testuser\OneDrive - VC3, Inc" -dest "\Device\HarddiskVolume6\OneDrive\User"frx add-redirect -src "\Device\HarddiskVolume2\Users\testuser\OneDrive - VC3, Inc" -dest "\Device\HarddiskVolume6\OneDrive\User"[15:51:33] <tabularasa> nfc why it's double pasting....[15:53:53] <tabularasa> tabularasa enjoys talking to himself[15:54:40] <WyW> wall of text[15:56:28] <WyW> it's always in the same spot?[15:57:04] <WyW> not sure what you want to achieve, that path paste is a bit confusing[15:58:26] <tabularasa> let met use pastebin[15:59:53] <WyW> I let you[16:00:26] <tabularasa> https://pastebin.com/2KnekU1Mhttps://pastebin.com/2KnekU1M[16:00:36] <WyW> :D[16:00:41] <tabularasa> WTF[16:00:50] <tabularasa> https://pastebin.com/2KnekU1M[16:00:59] <WyW> do you get always twins when you have babies?[16:01:06] <tabularasa> thank god no[16:01:09] <WyW> :D[16:01:34] <WyW> output is in two rows?[16:01:39] <tabularasa> yeah[16:01:56] <tabularasa> and the 6 is in both rows (in this example)[16:02:03] <tabularasa> but the # will be in both rows[16:02:41] <tabularasa> https://pastebin.com/kChLtTq5[16:02:44] <tabularasa> that's the full output[16:04:03] <WyW> getting close already :D[16:04:16] <tabularasa> i don't even know what to look at[16:08:55] *** BobFrankly <BobFrankly!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/bobfrankly> has joined #Citrix[16:11:12] <WyW> tabularasa: ready for something ugly?[16:11:20] <tabularasa> :)[16:15:20] <WyW> https://pastebin.com/bDF8e3nq[16:15:26] <WyW> that writes the output to the host[16:15:37] <WyW> it's really ugly though[16:15:57] <WyW> I bet there's millions of times easier ways to get that done[16:16:24] <tabularasa> :)[16:16:28] <tabularasa> i appreciate you looking at it[16:16:30] <tabularasa> playing with it[16:17:19] <WyW> it get's the number now from the last bit in your example => \Device\HarddiskVolume6\Skype4B\User"[16:18:28] <tabularasa> this could work. :)[16:18:44] <tabularasa> aren't you excited to get graded by BobFrankly and |Atum|[16:18:45] <tabularasa> :)[16:19:05] <BobFrankly> I'm not even sure what this is supposed to fix[16:19:21] <tabularasa> https://pastebin.com/2KnekU1M[16:20:09] <WyW> tabularasa: not particularly[16:20:16] <WyW> but open for a learning experience[16:20:16] <tabularasa> WyW: :D[16:20:21] <BobFrankly> what number?[16:20:26] <tabularasa> in that example, the 6[16:20:40] <WyW> I captured the split-path -leaf -thingy from yesterday, didn't know that[16:21:30] <tabularasa> i'm wondering if i need to capture the first number too.... i think thta's set though... testing[16:22:00] <tabularasa> since it's alwasy on the C:, and all my configs are setup the same[16:22:13] <tabularasa> yeah, that seems set[16:22:28] <tabularasa> that last number can be 2 digits too.....[16:22:34] * BobFrankly would used regex for that[16:22:42] <tabularasa> regex is fucking wizardry[16:22:53] <tabularasa> help me if you're bored.[16:22:58] <BobFrankly> it's not that difficult[16:23:09] <tabularasa> i think it being possibly 2 numbers borks WyW's method, sadly[16:23:13] <tabularasa> is to me. :([16:25:24] *** _Jath <_Jath!5cb0a704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.176.167.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:25:42] <BobFrankly> fighting with chrome and it's memory leaks[16:26:04] <tabularasa> thats why i switched to Opera[16:26:04] <BobFrankly> cant I have 35 tabs open without it eating my memory?[16:27:35] <WyW> BobFrankly: actually it works with two numbers, if you mean "HardDiskVolume61" for instance[16:27:53] <WyW> just tested it... I'm doing the split on "e" :D[16:28:02] <AnotherCTXadm> Bob, I got about 40 tabs open and taking up 7GB of my memory with Chrome. what a PITA[16:28:20] <WyW> regex will surely be much clearer solution[16:28:24] <BobFrankly> WyW: tab was the one who mentioned, not sure yet, still getting my morning settled[16:28:35] * tabularasa nods[16:29:32] *** |Atum| <|Atum|!~atum@104.42.185.85> has joined #Citrix[16:29:43] * |Atum| stretches[16:29:48] <|Atum|> IS THIS THING ON?[16:29:52] <BobFrankly> WOAH[16:29:58] <|Atum|> that was a scary incident[16:29:58] * BobFrankly reels back in his chair[16:30:04] <tabularasa> you're missing the powershell/regex fun[16:30:05] <|Atum|> this just in: Don't put 100% of your assets in a single cloud[16:30:14] <|Atum|> or you could end up like my last 36 hours[16:30:29] <BobFrankly> there was no minecraft yesterday. I ended up expanding my factorio factory[16:30:42] <BobFrankly> and installing belt balancers[16:30:44] <|Atum|> Microsoft straight up disabled my azure subscription without notice and without reason (even teh support person said "even I cannot see the reason, it just says unknown reason")[16:31:02] <BobFrankly> thats lovely[16:31:13] <tabularasa> that sucks[16:31:29] <WyW> BobFrankly: oh, sorry, that's correct[16:31:34] * BobFrankly is keeping this experience, as we are hurtling headfirst into azure[16:31:40] <tabularasa> yeah, we are too[16:32:31] <|Atum|> granted it was a 'free' MSDN subscription...from their billing perspective it SHOULD have looked like a paying subscription of $150/mo[16:32:56] <|Atum|> On the plus side, it could have been worse[16:33:05] <|Atum|> they disabled it and told me they wouldnt delete anything for 90 days[16:33:09] <|Atum|> so you could download any data you had[16:33:23] <|Atum|> annnnnnnnnnnnnnnyway........[16:33:55] <|Atum|> https://imgur.com/a/Nuqou[16:35:28] <tabularasa> |Atum|: just so you know what we are talking about.[16:35:38] <tabularasa> https://pastebin.com/2KnekU1M[16:38:39] <tabularasa> nice |Atum|[16:39:13] <|Atum|> ok so you need a regex capture group[16:39:21] <|Atum|> store the result in a variable and plop it in a string later[16:41:50] <tabularasa> fucking regex[16:41:54] <tabularasa> yes, exactly[16:42:05] <tabularasa> regex101.com totally cool[16:42:07] <tabularasa> playig with it[16:43:42] <|Atum|> it would be something like[16:44:20] <|Atum|> \Device\HarddiskVolume([1-9])\Skype4B\User[16:44:28] <|Atum|> well[16:44:32] <|Atum|> escape all those \[16:44:40] <tabularasa> escape?[16:44:48] <|Atum|> \\Decvice\\[16:45:05] <tabularasa> that seems to work[16:45:38] <|Atum|> so your regex result would be like $regex.groups[1][16:45:42] <Biny> tabularasa: you want the '6' in HarddiskVolume6?[16:45:52] <|Atum|> as in powershell group[0] should always be the whole match[16:45:54] <tabularasa> that works Atum, but not if it's "16"[16:46:05] <|Atum|> OK so do repeating char n number of itmes[16:46:11] <tabularasa> ?[16:46:23] <|Atum|> [1-9] is any single character of 1-9[16:46:25] <|Atum|> one sec[16:47:33] <Biny> tabularasa: https://goo.gl/oEX9SX[16:47:56] <Biny> i'm super lazy and just use txt2re and select what i want from that. if you're looking for HardDiskVolume###### that will get it for you[16:48:31] <|Atum|> lol :)[16:48:37] <|Atum|> dont use that one at scale :D[16:49:50] <tabularasa> i dont' even know how to read that[16:50:39] <|Atum|> playing with the regex tester, but you should be able to add {1,3} to the capture to matchbetween 1-3 repeating instances of a number (1-9)[16:50:43] <|Atum|> gime a moment, kids, school etc[16:50:49] <tabularasa> heh, you're good[16:51:56] <|Atum|> \\Device\\HarddiskVolume([1-9]{1,3})\\Skype4B\\User[16:52:05] <|Atum|> that will give you volume 1 through volume 999[16:52:16] <|Atum|> change it to [0-9] if you want to match volume0[16:52:28] <|Atum|> or {1,4} if you want to support through volume 9999[16:52:50] <|Atum|> your result will be stored in $groups[1][16:53:10] <|Atum|> or rather $match.groups[1][16:53:29] <|Atum|> *loads ps to check*[16:55:23] <tabularasa> 1,2 should be good[16:55:56] <|Atum|> $regexPattern='\\Device\\HarddiskVolume([1-9]{1,3})\\Skype4B\\User'[16:55:57] <|Atum|> $regexTest="\Device\HarddiskVolume16\Skype4B\User"[16:55:59] <|Atum|> $regexTest -match $regexPattern[16:56:01] <|Atum|> $matches[1][16:56:02] <|Atum|> There you are[16:56:30] <tabularasa> so, i need to pull that shit out of a command..:)[16:56:38] <tabularasa> frx list-redirects outputs that shit.[16:56:43] <tabularasa> testing[16:57:11] <|Atum|> $OutputVariable = (Shell command) | Out-String[16:58:28] <tabularasa> need some flobits[17:00:56] <|Atum|> https://floobits.com/AtumVirt/PSSCriptBoard/file/tabby.ps1:17[17:00:57] *** Biny <Biny!~Biny@c-73-228-172-8.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:01:24] <tabularasa> you can stay at my house free anytime...[17:01:29] <|Atum|> :D[17:02:03] <|Atum|> trust me on these quotes[17:02:10] <tabularasa> sorry[17:02:13] <|Atum|> executing EXE's in powershell with args is stupid the way it parses ^_^[17:02:38] <WyW> |Atum|: can you pastebin that and pm to me?[17:02:43] <WyW> much appreciated[17:03:09] <tabularasa> check out the flobits[17:03:21] <tabularasa> |Atum|: what variable does it put that into?[17:04:00] <|Atum|> powershell does some mumbo-jumbo where when you use -match it creates $Match and $matches variables[17:04:04] <|Atum|> so the output is in $matches[17:04:19] <tabularasa> how do i get it there?[17:04:27] <|Atum|> $matches would have [0] (the whole string it matched) and $matches[1] (capture group number one, everything inside the parenthesis)[17:05:27] <tabularasa> i can work with that![17:09:24] <BobFrankly> finally got to scratch the regex itch[17:09:55] <tabularasa> :)[17:09:59] <tabularasa> you guys rock[17:10:02] <BobFrankly> Atum: remember: \d = [0-9][17:10:12] <tabularasa> oh, that's nice[17:10:48] * BobFrankly hasn't tested his regex pattern though[17:11:18] <steeb`> yeah i had to disable the html5 store, also disable the option to allow the user to download receiver[17:11:20] <tabularasa> my heros[17:11:23] <steeb`> wem / transformer seems to work[17:11:26] <tabularasa> i owe Bob some beers too[17:11:31] <tabularasa> and WyW[17:11:38] <tabularasa> and Biny[17:12:02] * BobFrankly waits for Tab to say 'a round for everyone!' cause it'd be faster then flooding the channel with nicks[17:12:07] <BobFrankly> :P[17:12:27] <tabularasa> i'm not buying beer for 75 people[17:12:32] <tabularasa> well that's not true, i do have a kegerator[17:15:54] <|Atum|> BobFrankly: learn something new every day. ive never used \d :D[17:16:07] <|Atum|> WTB TIWORKER to finally be done consuming 100% of my cpu[17:16:24] <|Atum|> man you let your server be offline for *36 hours* and all the sudden you have a gazillion pending windows updates[17:19:21] <tabularasa> yay![17:19:29] <tabularasa> |Atum| fix my +s[17:19:32] <tabularasa> :D :D[17:20:06] <|Atum|> your quotes[17:21:01] <|Atum|> gosh[17:21:03] <|Atum|> one sec[17:21:10] <tabularasa> ugh... meeting... you're fine. gotta bounce for a bit.[17:23:49] <|Atum|> try that[17:23:53] <|Atum|> when you're back[17:25:32] <AnotherCTXadm> anyone by any chance managing SolarWinds? I am curious how many TCPIP ports open to your SW server. This should show the number "netstat -ano | find /i "estab" /c"[17:27:27] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!c206bb3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.6.187.59> has joined #Citrix[17:27:56] <Olivier83> happy friday \o/[17:28:09] <|Atum|> Hi Olivier83 ! Happy Friday![17:36:01] <BobFrankly> I managed solarwinds into a recycle bin about 10 years ago[17:36:19] <BobFrankly> was super hokey back then[17:37:16] *** Jordy <Jordy!~Jordy@office.exabyte.be> has joined #Citrix[17:38:05] <Olivier83> I have one of my pvs server streaming vdisks on 2 different networks (so the pvs server has 2 ip addresses configured in the pvs network settings)[17:38:35] <Olivier83> if I want to stop this server to stop streaming on one of the network[17:38:49] <Olivier83> I guess that I just need to remove the IP address in the network settings[17:39:18] <Olivier83> but all the targets that have already booted[17:39:36] <Olivier83> in the bootstrap file they still have this server referenced[17:40:29] *** Minnebo <Minnebo!~Jordy@office.exabyte.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:40:45] <Olivier83> will that be a problem for the targets? this server is in production and I do not want to create a problem with the targets[17:40:51] <BobFrankly> Olivier83: are all of those targets on the same network as the OTHER PVS server?[17:41:08] <Olivier83> no[17:41:12] <Olivier83> it's a routed network[17:41:27] <BobFrankly> okay, rephrase[17:41:53] <BobFrankly> can all of those targets stream from the other server (I'm assuming you have at least 2 servers with this vdisk)[17:42:01] <Olivier83> yes they can[17:42:12] <|Atum|> heh... when someone asks for help in a comment on a 5 year old blog post :o[17:42:38] <BobFrankly> okay, so if you stop the stream process on the dual network server, the targets SHOULD hop to the other PVS host[17:42:50] <Olivier83> that will be fine yes[17:42:51] <BobFrankly> Olivier83: quick question though: which PVS version[17:42:55] <Olivier83> 7.13[17:42:57] *** Jordy <Jordy!~Jordy@office.exabyte.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:43:12] <BobFrankly> not an older 7. version that might not hop, good[17:44:01] <Olivier83> yes so we sometimes reboot the pvs server for windows update and it's fine[17:44:22] <Olivier83> but this time I do not want the targets to reconnect[17:44:26] <Olivier83> to the pvs server[17:44:30] <Olivier83> I have to do an MTU test[17:44:35] <Olivier83> jumbo frames[17:44:59] <Olivier83> so in theory, If I remove the IP address in the pvs network settings, the targets should not try to reconnect[17:45:10] <Olivier83> or they should but it will be refused / not listening[17:45:14] <BobFrankly> they will try, because they know it exists[17:45:26] <BobFrankly> but yeah, it won't be listening so they should get refused[17:45:27] <Olivier83> yes they will try[17:45:36] <Olivier83> ok[17:46:06] <Olivier83> let's do it[17:47:25] <Olivier83> I've reached 203 MB/s on a sequential read test[17:47:35] <Olivier83> I want to try jumbo frames to see what I can get[17:48:53] <|Atum|> [08:42:38] BobFrankly okay, so if you stop the stream process on the dual network server, the targets SHOULD hop to the other PVS host <-- keep in mind this is a 'failover' event and there will be read delays for any pvs targets that are operating while that happens[17:49:03] <|Atum|> it should be pretty fast, but just incase :D[17:49:36] <|Atum|> [08:39:36] Olivier83 in the bootstrap file they still have this server referenced <-- changing bootstrap can be done without stopping the service, as well.[17:51:54] <Olivier83> Amazing !!!!!!!! \o/[17:52:09] <|Atum|> https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX119223[17:52:12] <|Atum|> useful[17:52:14] <|Atum|> :)[17:52:21] <Olivier83> with jumbo frames I've jumped to 380 MB/sec read speed[17:52:27] <|Atum|> also this post: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:X6voh8XBZcwJ:https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2014/10/16/provisioning-services-failover-myth-busted/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us[17:52:43] <BobFrankly> Olivier83: dang, I wish we could enable Jumbo frames here[17:54:21] *** nitram <nitram!~nitram@superblob.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[17:54:54] <|Atum|> heh[17:55:01] <|Atum|> Do you, though? :)[17:55:10] <|Atum|> *remembers being bit by this*[17:55:11] <|Atum|> ESX target devices utilizing a VMXnet3 network driver can experience a fatal exception, displaying a blue screen when using jumbo frames (frames with more than 1500 bytes of payload per frame).[17:55:17] <|Atum|> fixed in pvs 7.8 :D[17:56:57] <|Atum|> Just use XenServer with PVS accelerator[17:57:03] *** nitram <nitram!~nitram@80.69.43.9> has joined #Citrix[17:57:17] <|Atum|> Or go full derp on other hypervisors and load 1 pvs server per host for that sweet sweet in-ram transit[17:57:41] <|Atum|> Or go MCS with silly fast storage, like nutanix (Thats your cue Kees!)[17:59:49] <Olivier83> Interesting[18:00:02] <Olivier83> I wanted to use the PVS accelerator but it's a VMWare infrastructure[18:00:25] <Moxified> +1 for mcs and nutanix :)[18:00:54] *** aTypical <aTypical!~aTypical@4.7.28.206> has joined #Citrix[18:01:03] <|Atum|> dont get me wrong, PVS + jumbo frames is nice and can improve scalability. ive just been bit by crap int he past when someone 'decides' (accidental or otherwise) to reconfigure something[18:01:09] <|Atum|> plus that whole bluescreen incident :D[18:01:43] <aTypical> Hi, all. On the NetScaler, is there a way of finding traffic for a specific user?[18:03:49] <|Atum|> Can you describe the usage you're looking for aTypical ? You could do a nstrace with a filter of the user's IP[18:04:29] <aTypical> |Atum|, I'm looking for mail traffic.[18:05:22] <aTypical> I can see a user in my Exchange logs coming in from the NetScaler. I want to know if he's hitting the NS from inside or outside of our network.[18:05:32] *** Minnebo <Minnebo!~Jordy@2a02:a03f:4cbe:b500:d106:28e2:1a6d:b900> has joined #Citrix[18:11:20] *** Kaptain <Kaptain!~quassel@unaffiliated/dogs> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:11:37] <|Atum|> connections table or a nstrace filtered for the users specific IP[18:11:55] <|Atum|> https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX126853[18:18:50] <aTypical> Thanks, |Atum|[18:24:57] *** VapezW <VapezW!~VapezW@5.2.230.203> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:25:40] *** Biny <Biny!~Biny@c-73-228-172-8.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has joined #Citrix[18:26:40] *** humle <humle!~humle@unaffiliated/humle85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:28:50] *** humle <humle!~humle@185.21.217.21> has joined #Citrix[18:28:50] *** humle <humle!~humle@185.21.217.21> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:28:50] *** humle <humle!~humle@unaffiliated/humle85> has joined #Citrix[18:35:31] <Olivier83> yes[18:35:53] <Olivier83> we have a silly fast storage[18:35:59] <Olivier83> but they have deployed PVS[18:36:02] <Olivier83> for 250 targets[18:36:11] <Olivier83> MCS would have been probably better[18:36:24] <Olivier83> because now they say that the overall performance is not good with PVS[18:36:44] <Olivier83> the vdi desktops experience is a bit sluggish[18:37:36] <Olivier83> but it's a bit too late, all the internal process are based on PVS and they want me to find a way to boost the perfs[18:37:45] <Olivier83> so we'll try jumbo frames[18:41:04] <Olivier83> anyway[18:41:05] <Olivier83> have to go[18:41:14] <Olivier83> it's 5.40 pm here :)[18:41:17] <Olivier83> byebye[18:42:17] <tabularasa> |Atum|: back[18:42:19] <tabularasa> nope.[18:44:20] <citrixslackbot1> <kbaggerman> +2 for MCS and Nutanix[18:44:44] <citrixslackbot1> <kbaggerman> Jumbo frames are good, when you can control the whole stack[18:44:51] <citrixslackbot1> <kbaggerman> Kinda like LACP[18:44:59] <citrixslackbot1> <kbaggerman> Kiss is even better[18:45:23] <tabularasa> monkeying[18:45:50] <|Atum|> tabularasa: alternatively, just do all sorts of dirty bits[18:45:59] *** Olivier83 <Olivier83!c206bb3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.6.187.59> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:46:04] <|Atum|> "fcs" "param2" "param3" "param4" """"param with quotes""""[18:46:11] <|Atum|> throw & in front[18:46:24] <|Atum|> there is a better way to do it but i cant be bothered to look it up atm :p[18:46:30] <tabularasa> you're good. :)[18:46:32] <tabularasa> i'll figure it out from here[18:46:35] <|Atum|> You could add params to an arraylist and use start-process[18:46:49] <|Atum|> but in a nutshell google 'powershell launch process with parameters quotes'[18:46:56] <|Atum|> you'll see a variety of examples[18:47:19] <|Atum|> Out of sheer laziness i usually just go ham with quotes until they all appear the proper color in the syntax highlighter[18:47:27] <|Atum|> then plop a & infront xD[18:47:30] <|Atum|> (execute)[18:48:53] <tabularasa> :) that's what i'm doing atm[18:56:17] *** Minnebo <Minnebo!~Jordy@2a02:a03f:4cbe:b500:d106:28e2:1a6d:b900> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[18:58:18] <tabularasa> fixed[19:22:40] <tabularasa> had to add a match in there so it didn't grab ALL users mount points[19:25:43] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eucvnssazyglfuyj> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[19:28:05] <|Atum|> Ooof. Client has their env setup to redirect desktop, shortcuts appear duplicated with (1) (2) etc if you log in from multiple machines -.-[19:28:35] <|Atum|> receiver is configured to remove shortcuts on logoff, its either not happening properly or not overwriting existing shortcuts if you log in to 2x machines at a time[19:28:37] <|Atum|> gross[19:29:09] <Moxified> I had issues with receiver not removing shortcuts a while ago... I don't remember what the resolution was.[19:32:32] <tabularasa> close...[19:32:42] <tabularasa> |Atum|: how do i -match exact? not contains?[19:32:55] <tabularasa> {$_ -match “$($env:USERNAME)”}[19:33:00] <tabularasa> that matches testuser AND testuser2[19:33:34] <tabularasa> Yes, i have that problem too currently Atum.. not sure wtf is going on with it yet[19:34:15] <Moxified> iirc, it was a receiver issue others talked about. I think I just created my own shortcuts instead of letting receiver do it or something.[19:35:04] <|Atum|> {$_ -match “^$($env:USERNAME)`$”}[19:35:12] <|Atum|> ^ = start of string $ = end of string[19:35:16] <|Atum|> ` is to escape the $[19:35:40] <|Atum|> RE: shortcuts, its receiver 4.5, i know it was an issue in 4.2 but it was supposedly fixed. fughhhh[19:35:48] <|Atum|> actually no, receiver 4.3...[19:35:50] <|Atum|> hrmp[19:35:54] <|Atum|> eye stabbing ugliness[19:35:57] <|Atum|> something to fix anyway[19:36:10] <Moxified> yeah, I just found my notes and I set the registry keys to not publish the shortcuts.[19:36:22] <|Atum|> its really super gross. ugh[19:37:28] *** JarianGibson_ <JarianGibson_!sid21992@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xzvxmyxuayupduwo> has joined #Citrix[19:37:52] <tabularasa> heh[19:40:24] *** boman_ <boman_!~bomanz@c-6db6e255.06-165-756d651.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has joined #Citrix[19:43:43] *** njbair_ <njbair_!~njbair@2605:a000:122d:c17f:227:eff:fe0a:b289> has joined #Citrix[19:44:07] <|Atum|> so... i have 3 kids... youngest 2 are girls[19:44:37] <BobFrankly> My wife has one child. Which she married. Man-Child-Me[19:44:46] *** boman <boman!~bomanz@c-6db6e255.06-165-756d651.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[19:44:46] *** njbair <njbair!~njbair@2605:a000:122d:c17f:227:eff:fe0a:b289> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[19:44:46] *** JarianGibson <JarianGibson!sid21992@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofecnupaluewkygt> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[19:44:48] *** JarianGibson_ is now known as JarianGibson[19:44:49] *** njbair_ is now known as njbair[19:45:01] <|Atum|> Just went to use the restroom...noticed illegal foreign object floating. (sterile ear disinfectant pad)[19:45:03] <|Atum|> http://gph.is/1Ba2L3C[19:45:27] <|Atum|> also wrong channel, but i think anyone who's ever had to go ham with a plunger can appreciate the joke[19:46:18] <|Atum|> (not a gross link or anything, just a lord of the rings reference)[19:47:33] <tabularasa> lol[19:47:38] <tabularasa> what channel DID you mean to put that in?[19:48:20] <|Atum|> #citrixminecraft[19:48:22] <|Atum|> :p[19:48:28] <tabularasa> nice[19:49:08] <|Atum|> I've lucked out so far, 3 kids and have only had about 1 foreign object per child[19:49:24] <|Atum|> pair of toddler undies, sock, and some sort of wrapper[19:49:37] <|Atum|> time to dust off the old dad chat[19:50:01] <tabularasa> my kids never put shit in the toilet, shockingly[19:50:08] <tabularasa> well, shit, yes, objects, no[19:50:11] <|Atum|> lol :)[19:50:16] <|Atum|> lucky[19:50:28] <tabularasa> lots of commas in that sentence[19:50:34] <|Atum|> well i just recently unplugged it after full bottle of draino failed (i was lazy)[19:50:47] <|Atum|> dual plunger on the bathtub etc etc[19:50:54] <|Atum|> restored 100% flushability[19:50:59] <tabularasa> lol[19:51:01] <|Atum|> 3 days later im like ...wth is it so weak again[19:51:11] <|Atum|> fast foward to today and i see it[19:51:13] <|Atum|> i was all[19:51:16] <|Atum|> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[19:51:30] <|Atum|> But hey, at least i have an explanation as to why[19:51:35] <|Atum|> as opposed to a systemic plumbing problem[19:51:49] <|Atum|> Now i just get to pray for the next x # of years that those things dont gum up the septic tank[19:52:01] <Moxified> get it pumped...[19:52:38] <|Atum|> Moxified: we just moved in last year, I'm not droppin $700 in advance to get it pumped :p[19:52:59] <Moxified> WHAT! I had both my tanks pumped for like $350 a year ago... 700?[19:53:41] <tabularasa> i need to do my septic.. i haven't done it once...[19:53:45] <tabularasa> i'm at the scared point...[19:53:55] <Moxified> sorry, 420 *snicker* 9/16[19:54:10] <Moxified> 2x 1000 gallon tanks.[19:54:29] <|Atum|> Moxified: Welcome to Seattle(metro)[19:54:39] <|Atum|> Where everything costs 4x as much[19:54:50] <Moxified> Yeah but tab, you're in the south. up in the north where the ground freezes... the... uh... process slows in the winter.[19:54:51] <|Atum|> You know how everyone says the cost of living in hawaii is so high, especially for basic groceries and stuff?[19:55:04] <BobFrankly> ya[19:55:07] <|Atum|> We kept going to FOODLAND and browsing just to be amazed at how cheap everything was![19:55:18] <|Atum|> (Yes, we went to foodland 4 days in a row....)[19:55:26] <|Atum|> #simplePleasures[19:55:47] <BobFrankly> beef?[19:55:57] <|Atum|> surprisingly cheap. Locally sourced[19:56:02] <BobFrankly> huh[19:56:12] <Moxified> http://thecontextofthings.com/2014/07/21/usa-cost-of-living-map/[19:56:18] <|Atum|> (granted, economics of job prospects of island life means the cost of living relative to avg income is high...but given the overall work flexibility 'its nice, lets go to beach' ... could be a good tradeoff)[19:56:40] <Moxified> according to that.. seattle and southern NH have the same cost of living. NE is one of the most expensive places in us to live especially considering our low wages.[19:56:51] <|Atum|> 2014 data is no good either, its gotten supremely worse in 2017 due to housing prices[19:57:11] <|Atum|> like 40% year on year or something stupid high[19:57:25] <|Atum|> fortunately, I own and can't have my rent jacked up[19:57:26] <Moxified> oops, crap... forgot to check date... Google search is so infuriating. It places 15 year old data above current results continuously.[19:57:45] <BobFrankly> yeah[19:58:25] <Moxified> https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/index/north-america[19:58:35] <|Atum|> Had a long conversation with my step dad about 6 months ago, and it was very frustrating to hear him complain[19:58:36] <Moxified> that is 2018 data and puts boston above seattle... so :)[19:58:55] <|Atum|> even compared to 'only' the 90s, there was SOoooooooo much more power ni salary[19:59:18] <|Atum|> your avg job that paid, say, $60k then now pays maybe $65k, yet housing is 4-15x higher[19:59:32] <|Atum|> to say nothing of basic goods[20:00:02] <Moxified> no doubt.[20:00:04] <|Atum|> lol[20:00:11] <|Atum|> $15 for lunch + drink[20:00:14] <|Atum|> I question their methodology[20:00:19] <|Atum|> my expense report begs to differ[20:00:42] <|Atum|> in *TACOMA* ( which is ~25-30% cheaper than seattle) last week a lunch for 2 with *water* was $38 after tax and a 15% tip[20:01:19] <tabularasa> WTF[20:01:42] <|Atum|> also Seattle itself had a huge sugar tax added , i wnoder if they added that in. $2.22 for a 2 liter seems questionable[20:01:59] <|Atum|> Costco literally tells their customers to buy gatorade at a store outside of the city limits[20:02:11] <BobFrankly> lol[20:02:15] <|Atum|> https://www.marketwatch.com/story/2633-instead-of-1599-a-case-costco-shows-seattle-customers-just-how-much-soda-tax-costs-them-2018-01-10[20:02:21] <|Atum|> Costco says case of Gatorade costs $26.33 instead of $15.99[20:02:29] <Moxified> is what it is. I never have lived in seattle for sure... I do have a buddy that moved there and wont' move back because he said it is less expensive... that's why I was surprised by your statements.[20:03:08] <|Atum|> I'm sure it totally depends Moxified . There *are* good deals on housing some places. but on the whole, with a family and an avg job, its nuts[20:03:18] <|Atum|> That being said, if you're in tech, its easy to make it. There's basically no salary cap[20:03:28] <|Atum|> if you're good you can name your number and either get it or go down the street and get it[20:03:43] <Moxified> he's in audio. works for Nike.[20:03:59] <|Atum|> and its Seattle nort Portland eh? :)[20:04:31] <Moxified> I think he is in portland now. He just took the job with Nike like 6 months ago.[20:04:38] <|Atum|> Ok. Yeah portland is *way* cheaper too[20:04:50] <|Atum|> also, no sales tax (but they have income tax)[20:04:59] <|Atum|> still, works out better for your run of the mill middle class job[20:06:45] <Moxified> Tab's at the bottom of that cost list :)[20:08:56] <|Atum|> lol[20:09:17] <|Atum|> To buy tab's property in the burbs around seattle with a 35 minute commute, it would be like ~1mil[20:09:40] <|Atum|> if you go further out, you could get it for say 600k but you have a 1hr 30 min commute (for what should be 25 minutes)[20:10:01] <|Atum|> a bit further out and you could do $450k for 2.5 hour commute (this is where i am) for what should be a 35 minute commute[20:10:05] <Moxified> no doubt. My brother lived in SC for a few years. He bought a bigger house in great shape for half what I paid for a 100 year old tiny dump on a .12acre lot in the crappy section of town for twice.[20:10:09] <|Atum|> #TrafficCanEatMe[20:10:47] <Moxified> sounds like boston.[20:11:23] <|Atum|> "100 year old tiny dump on a .12acre lot in the crappy section of town for twice." <-- literally $600-700k in seattle for this[20:11:24] <Moxified> I'm 1.5 hours from boston and housing is more reasonable but if you want the pay, you have to travel an hour or so down into mass to get it.[20:12:01] <Moxified> HA, seattle was established in 1851. How many 100 yo houses are there :)[20:12:16] <|Atum|> thats why seattles prices are so stupid high[20:12:21] <|Atum|> their neighborhoods are FILLED with single family homes[20:12:29] <|Atum|> and NIMBYs fight rezoning for density at all costs[20:13:34] <Moxified> yeah, my city is built on farmlands. My land is zoned agricultural. My city was founded 1778 though. Town I grew up in just across the state line in Maine was founded in 1713.[20:26:48] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-17-101.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #Citrix[20:27:32] *** hirogen <hirogen!hirogen@2.122.87.16> has joined #Citrix[20:31:33] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-17-101.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[20:31:39] <hirogen> anyone experience we moved users to xendesktop 7.5 new server etc etc.. but a lot of ppl are getting 100cpu usage in office applications, if they close 1 application down then the cpu usage moves to another office application[20:31:48] <hirogen> over 90percent most of the time too[20:31:59] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-17-101.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #Citrix[20:32:07] <tabularasa> did you disable hardware acceleration?[20:32:18] <|Atum|> ^-- this, and check what addins are loaded in office[20:32:23] <|Atum|> sometimes people have ancient plugins for office that get loaded[20:32:35] <|Atum|> may need to be mitigated[20:33:38] <hirogen> ahhh[20:33:58] <hirogen> im not sure tabularasa, im just front end support for now and only just started I can ask though[20:34:06] <|Atum|> http://terenceluk.blogspot.com/2016/12/a-few-virtual-desktop-microsoft-office.html[20:34:29] <|Atum|> hirogen: process explorer could give you insight as to WHY its using 100% as well[20:34:40] <|Atum|> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/markrussinovich/2008/04/07/the-case-of-the-system-process-cpu-spikes/[20:34:45] <|Atum|> use that as a troubleshooting guide[20:35:17] <tabularasa> $frxOutput= & "frx" "list-redirects" | where {$_ -match "\\$($env:USERNAME)\\"} | out-String$frxOutput= & "frx" "list-redirects" | where {$_ -match "\\$($env:USERNAME)\\"} | out-String$frxOutput= & "frx" "list-redirects" | where {$_ -match "\\$($env:USERNAME)\\"} | out-String[20:35:21] <tabularasa> WTF paste[20:35:34] <tabularasa> anyway... |Atum| that worked[20:35:40] <tabularasa> yours didn't seem to work and you helped me enough today[20:38:35] <hirogen> yeah i suggested process explorer[20:38:36] <hirogen> thanks man[20:39:06] <hirogen> tabu is that script for me ?[20:41:37] <tabularasa> hirogen: negative[20:42:06] <hirogen> ok[20:43:08] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!~GenteelBe@cpc111801-lutn14-2-0-cust55.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[20:43:39] <BobFrankly> tabularasa: wait...it didn't work or it did?[20:44:36] <tabularasa> i posted the final script in the flobits[20:44:38] <tabularasa> it's all working now[20:48:45] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!~GenteelBe@cpc111801-lutn14-2-0-cust55.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #Citrix[20:51:43] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> @tabularasa Can you give me an idea. We want to deploy an old app on windows 2012 r2 that write everything on the C drive C:\App\. In the past we just to workaround this by profiling the app publishing it to the XenApp server using Citrix Application Streaming.[20:52:09] <hirogen> nite[20:52:11] *** hirogen <hirogen!hirogen@2.122.87.16> has quit IRC ()[20:52:55] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> is there a way to do this for new OSs? I know application streaming reach its EOL with XA 6.5[20:54:13] <tabularasa> you can use fslogix file containers for that[20:54:29] <tabularasa> then there's app-v[20:54:51] <tabularasa> or, can you just copy the entire app to the users H: and run it from there?[20:56:35] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> NO, we already tried that. The dev team did a great job burning c:\app on the entire code, on top of that users write files on that folder and when many users try to write to it we encounter strange issues.[20:56:44] <tabularasa> i hate that[20:56:53] <tabularasa> yeah, fslogix file containers is probably your best bet[20:56:57] <tabularasa> it's pretty cheap[20:57:04] <tabularasa> and, it's badass[20:59:57] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> I've hear of it, but never actually use it. any idea how its licensed?[21:00:01] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!~GenteelBe@cpc111801-lutn14-2-0-cust55.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:01:55] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> the product name would be FSLogix Apps Profile Containers?[21:01:56] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> right?[21:04:51] *** Moxified <Moxified!~Moxified@smtp.planesense.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:05:02] <|Atum|> simpro: fslogix can do that, also App-V could do it (and would be free)[21:05:07] <|Atum|> well[21:05:11] <|Atum|> 'included with RDS licensing'[21:05:35] <|Atum|> but im told fslogix is entirely cheap at somethign silly like $17/user (ive never seen pricing) for just containers[21:05:56] <|Atum|> and if i had my druthers, id steer clear of app-v. its a nightmare waiting to happen[21:06:09] *** zax1_2 <zax1_2!~zax1@90.211.245.92> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:06:39] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> Really, is App-v so bad?[21:08:34] <tabularasa> i hate it...[21:08:50] <tabularasa> i'd go fslogix in a heartbeat[21:10:37] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> I already request an evaluation of the fslogix.[21:11:53] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> But what should I quote with this guys? Is there an specific product call File Containers?[21:11:59] <tabularasa> yes[21:12:09] <tabularasa> it's part of the Apps Suite[21:16:03] <|Atum|> triple confirm, appv is a nightmare :p[21:19:44] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> Then FSlogix is the way guys. I almost told sales team that we could use appv[21:21:05] <|Atum|> simpro, about 2 min ago: https://media.giphy.com/media/WuVdPqDSsRbjy/giphy.gif[21:21:50] * |Atum| giggles like a 5 year old[21:21:57] <citrixslackbot1> <simpro> Thats Right![21:23:14] <tabularasa> hahaha[21:23:19] <tabularasa> love it[21:31:54] <BobFrankly> appv isn't a nightmare, nightmares work.[21:32:06] <|Atum|> lol[21:32:46] <BobFrankly> a nightmare = it works, goes into production, THEN fails[21:33:25] <BobFrankly> some people love appV, but they probably have MSI applications[21:34:32] *** zax1_2 <zax1_2!~zax1@90.211.245.92> has joined #Citrix[21:37:19] <|Atum|> lol[21:37:47] <|Atum|> customer was telling me how management went all-in on appv, they repackaged something like 1400 apps, then about 2 weeks after going live people complained about the weirdest crap like in some apps RIGHT CLICK context menus didnt appear[21:45:44] <BobFrankly> dang....that sucks[22:17:05] <tabularasa> 1400 apps?[22:17:06] <tabularasa> :([22:21:07] <|Atum|> yes, because they for the longest time allowed anyoen to run installers as they were all local admins[22:21:14] <|Atum|> and never slapped their hands away for win7 migration[22:21:28] <|Atum|> after an ...incident...they did, but the apps were already installed and part of business processes at that point[22:32:17] *** zax1_2 <zax1_2!~zax1@90.211.245.92> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:19:37] *** nitram <nitram!~nitram@80.69.43.9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:23:00] *** nitram <nitram!~nitram@superblob.com> has joined #Citrix[23:41:58] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-17-101.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:42:10] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-17-101.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #Citrix[23:59:53] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-17-101.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)