February 2, 2018 
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February 2, 2018 [00:19:59] *** gmarmolejos <gmarmolejos!b334e0f0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.52.224.240> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:00:04] *** Spr1ng <Spr1ng!~Spr1ng@unaffiliated/spr1ng> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.9)[01:07:19] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!~GenteelBe@cpc111801-lutn14-2-0-cust55.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC ()[01:48:34] *** flippytheclown <flippytheclown!414a10f2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.74.16.242> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[02:06:53] *** Vapez <Vapez!~Vapez@unaffiliated/vapez> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:17:38] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-amtqqiwoyvttpzuy> has quit IRC ()[05:17:53] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xipcycxrawhaipcc> has joined #Citrix[06:46:26] *** hateball <hateball!~quassel@unaffiliated/hateball> has joined #Citrix[09:16:33] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xipcycxrawhaipcc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:00:41] *** pengu <pengu!~pengu@2a01:c22:a421:8c00:f8ba:f4ef:bd04:77e4> has joined #Citrix[10:15:35] *** Splatone <Splatone!~root@mail.tsihealthcare.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:17:37] *** Splatone <Splatone!~root@mail.tsihealthcare.com> has joined #Citrix[10:30:32] *** Vapez <Vapez!~quassel@unaffiliated/vapez> has joined #Citrix[10:41:09] <Vapez> i have low IOPS on 7.3[10:41:13] <Vapez> 15k iops read[11:08:12] *** johnelse <johnelse!~johnel@static-84-9-133-23.vodafonexdsl.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[11:12:58] *** johnelse <johnelse!~johnel@static-84-9-133-23.vodafonexdsl.co.uk> has joined #Citrix[11:16:07] *** pengu <pengu!~pengu@2a01:c22:a421:8c00:f8ba:f4ef:bd04:77e4> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:52:17] <rasmuskindberg> .[12:42:09] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!GenteelBen@cpc111801-lutn14-2-0-cust55.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #Citrix[12:49:50] *** Vapez <Vapez!~quassel@unaffiliated/vapez> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:08:17] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-omycoenidwwjzhql> has joined #Citrix[13:31:23] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@189.2.79.60> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:31:45] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@179.182.60.115> has joined #Citrix[13:39:14] *** Vapez <Vapez!~quassel@unaffiliated/vapez> has joined #Citrix[13:43:12] *** njbair <njbair!~njbair@2605:a000:122d:c17f:227:eff:fe0a:b289> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[13:43:35] *** njbair <njbair!~njbair@cpe-104-231-114-145.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #Citrix[14:15:03] *** zer0trust1 <zer0trust1!~David_Lig@unaffiliated/zer0trust> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[14:15:27] *** zer0trust <zer0trust!~David_Lig@unaffiliated/zer0trust> has joined #Citrix[14:30:38] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@179.182.60.115> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:36:46] *** njbair <njbair!~njbair@cpe-104-231-114-145.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[14:37:13] *** njbair <njbair!~njbair@2605:a000:122d:c17f:227:eff:fe0a:b289> has joined #Citrix[14:52:02] *** ello_govna <ello_govna!ello_govna@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/ellogovna/x-42533607> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:20:35] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@99.133.184.129> has joined #Citrix[15:24:18] *** geheimnis` <geheimnis`!~geheimnis@23.226.237.192> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:30:46] *** geheimnis` <geheimnis`!~geheimnis@23.226.237.192> has joined #Citrix[15:39:15] *** braynyac <braynyac!uid6699@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eeyfllvvvzzcifkx> has joined #Citrix[15:39:31] <braynyac> morning everyone[15:46:54] *** KaiForce <KaiForce!~chatzilla@99.133.184.129> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 52.6.0/20180118122319])[15:49:15] <AnotherCTXadm> gm[15:51:27] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> I haz the high IOPS 8)[15:54:24] <tabularasa> lmorning peeps[15:58:27] <braynyac> Wanna hear the latest amazing request from our compliance department (note - I'm in healthcare)...[15:58:52] <braynyac> Open up ALL file sharing sites for EVERYONE. With no auditing or oversight.[15:59:08] <braynyac> I may be looking for a new job shortly[15:59:55] *** johnelse is now known as johnel_away[16:00:00] *** johnel_away is now known as johnelse[16:02:08] <Moxified> lol. I hear ya. I tell you how a whole department made a pitch to execs that they were better at IT than the IT department and they should have their own isolated network they maintain... and won.[16:02:19] <BobFrankly> braynyac: wouldn't that be a humoungous HIPPA risk?[16:03:54] *** jaelae <jaelae!uid177201@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xtubrawtpxmhrlsy> has joined #Citrix[16:05:42] *** hateball <hateball!~quassel@unaffiliated/hateball> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:15:10] <Biny> hipaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa[16:15:18] <Biny> hungry hungry hippas[16:16:08] <BobFrankly> sounds like someone's gonna end up with thier marbles in hippa's teeth[16:16:29] <Biny> lol[16:17:30] * BobFrankly nods. "Yup, It's Friday"[16:20:26] <AnotherCTXadm> Talking about IOPS, my wife tells me I should loose some- 15-20 LBs worth... TGIF[16:20:34] <tabularasa> heh, same[16:21:19] <AnotherCTXadm> specially those IOPS around why gut area[16:22:51] <BobFrankly> your input ops ratio is out of wack with your otuput ops[16:22:56] <BobFrankly> *output[16:23:01] <AnotherCTXadm> I got Iceland trip coming up in February with 3 hour hike through the glassier, crampons and all. Could definitely lighten up a bit[16:24:35] <AnotherCTXadm> brining a drone to follow us from up above. Hopefully weather will play along[16:25:23] <AnotherCTXadm> if anyone here is into photography, you must put Iceland onto your bucket list[16:27:34] <BobFrankly> I *was* into photography[16:27:41] <BobFrankly> but I'm too much of a homebody[16:27:57] <BobFrankly> reminds me, I still need to sell my camera equipment[16:53:00] <braynyac> BobFrankly: Yeah. Quite. And we have ShareFile, which works AMAZINGLY WELL.[16:53:24] <braynyac> What kind of camera?[16:54:57] <braynyac> Yeah, we fought it. Finally my boss (IT Directory) told her that if she wanted it, she was responsible for it. Only problem is, once there's a breach (not if), I'm left picking up the pieces.[16:55:14] <braynyac> And it's not like we're overstaffed...or even fully staffed...[16:55:30] <braynyac> Grrrrr[16:55:51] <Moxified> that's always the issue. They make crazy demands and act like they understand they take responsibility but you still get lambasted when something goes wrong.[16:56:10] <braynyac> Anyone have any experience with Server 2016 and MDT?[16:56:15] <braynyac> got a few small issues...[16:56:22] <braynyac> Moxified - that's my fear.[16:56:37] <braynyac> Although my boss has WAY more political clout, I still have to do the work[16:58:11] <Moxified> I have cane marks all over my back to prove this principle.[17:02:41] <BobFrankly> braynyac: demand a lawyer reviewed signed copy taking responsibility, both for the inital action, and for any followup[17:05:24] <Moxified> HA... that might work to keep your job... for a while but they would drive you out and everybody in the company would think it was your fault. It's a trap. No way around it.[17:10:13] <BobFrankly> yeah, was more wishful thinking then anything[17:10:31] <BobFrankly> open it up and then report it[17:10:33] <BobFrankly> :P[17:13:35] <Moxified> The proper solution is to quit and be a goat farmer... according to reddit the other day.[17:14:22] <BobFrankly> lol[17:14:45] <BobFrankly> startling the goats and watching them faint gets old though[17:15:03] <Moxified> WHAT, NEVER!!![17:15:25] <Moxified> kinda like that bear getting hit in the nuts... I have to watch that all the time now thank you very much.[17:15:32] <BobFrankly> rofl[17:15:33] <braynyac> lol[17:16:05] <braynyac> the comments in that post literally made me laugh out loud - I think my coworkers have concluded that I'm off my rocker[17:16:37] <BobFrankly> well obviously. You're disagreeing with the opinion of the illustrously misguided supervisor[17:17:20] <BobFrankly> I would get a signed hard copy of the supervisor understanding the risks as you've presented them though[17:17:59] <braynyac> No, my supervisor is the IT Director. He's good, agrees with me. But, the corporate compliance lackey got what she wanted. That's the problem.[17:18:14] <Moxified> stings doesn't it.[17:18:14] <BobFrankly> and that's who needs to sign[17:18:18] <braynyac> He has his ducks in a row[17:19:39] <BobFrankly> "Here is the change request Mr Corporate Lack-Brains....ahem 'Lackey'. Just need your signature here"[17:20:05] * BobFrankly is irritable[17:20:13] <BobFrankly> is it showing? :)[17:20:19] <Moxified> we have a guy with the last name Lackey here...[17:20:56] <BobFrankly> well if he's in here, he's attempting to learn, which indicates the presence of brains, so my comment doesn't address him :P[17:21:16] <braynyac> it's just super frustrating. I spend all day trying to secure the network, and some nincompoop has an idea about how they want to do something (Google Form), and can't let it go, so now we decrease our ENTIRE security effectiveness.[17:21:19] <Moxified> no no, at my company, not in this channel. He's a clown.[17:21:23] <braynyac> We had a Lackey here, he's gone (thankfully)[17:21:28] <braynyac> hahahaha[17:21:31] <BobFrankly> rofl[17:21:31] <braynyac> is his first name Bob?[17:21:40] <Moxified> sadly no[17:21:48] <BobFrankly> don't be a male appendage braynyac :P[17:21:49] <braynyac> that would have been funny[17:21:57] <braynyac> =D[17:22:06] <braynyac> donkeyhole?[17:22:15] <braynyac> I think it should be donkeypit[17:22:22] * BobFrankly likes his non-cuss words[17:22:45] <BobFrankly> you valueless swine[17:23:13] <BobFrankly> feels like I'm swearing in shakespere[17:23:14] <Moxified> heh. We stick to variations of clown.[17:23:30] <BobFrankly> Moxified: just call him a donkeycap[17:23:44] <Moxified> oh donkey clown is a common one.[17:23:50] <BobFrankly> haha[17:24:09] <braynyac> ooh! Snow![17:24:34] * BobFrankly attempts to repair his reverse image[17:24:54] <braynyac> Did you actually do the reverse image? Or did you do the direct boot from VHD(x)?[17:25:27] <Moxified> braynyac, you getting snow? We had an excellent start to the season and then spring happened about 3 weeks ago...[17:25:29] <BobFrankly> I copied the vhdx to another workstation, converted to vhd with powershell, and imported via XenCenter[17:25:37] <AnotherCTXadm> I have someone name Dickshit here.. So, please dont complain[17:25:47] <BobFrankly> and I end up with 0x00000007 stop on boot[17:25:48] *** awkwardnewperson <awkwardnewperson!4779adc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.121.173.194> has joined #Citrix[17:25:59] <awkwardnewperson> soo anyonne online? :)[17:26:02] <BobFrankly> no[17:26:02] <braynyac> Yeah, just started. It's been warmish and non-snowy for several weeks. I'm ready for winter return[17:26:12] <awkwardnewperson> oh well then ill just go then[17:26:15] <braynyac> oohhhh! I know that error[17:26:19] <awkwardnewperson> 0.o[17:26:27] <awkwardnewperson> i've been fighting with a citrix issue for over a year[17:26:33] <Moxified> that's a long time.[17:26:39] <awkwardnewperson> i'm on the end user side[17:26:41] <braynyac> Before you go changing a bunch of stuff..what versions of XenServer are each?[17:26:43] <awkwardnewperson> my client insists its our issue[17:26:47] <Moxified> oh then scram :)[17:26:49] <Moxified> lol[17:26:50] <awkwardnewperson> haha[17:26:55] <awkwardnewperson> i'm a tech[17:26:59] <BobFrankly> braynyac: 6.5 on the old, 7.1 on the new[17:27:02] <awkwardnewperson> just not the tech controlling the Citrix server[17:27:06] <Moxified> I'm just kidding, ask away.[17:27:08] <braynyac> YES! I have your answer![17:27:11] <braynyac> one moment =)[17:27:19] * BobFrankly waits expectantly[17:27:21] <awkwardnewperson> CITRIX NetScaler Gateway VPN[17:27:33] <awkwardnewperson> connects no issue, blocks WAN traffic (and all LAN) as expected[17:27:37] <awkwardnewperson> doesn't allow traffic out over VPN[17:27:48] <awkwardnewperson> i finally get a VM setup so that i can join the client on the computer when the VPN is connected[17:27:59] <awkwardnewperson> if i wait long enough VPN traffic gets passed[17:28:19] <awkwardnewperson> the client insists he can't go back to his customer to push for the Citrix admin because they're sensitive about security[17:28:33] <awkwardnewperson> AND he's able to use the VPN on other computers just not on the computers inside our network that we manage[17:29:13] <Moxified> does your network's ip scheme clash with another part of the chain?[17:29:26] <awkwardnewperson> i'm impressed about you asking[17:29:36] <awkwardnewperson> however until today when i finally joined him on the computer i wouldn't have known the answer[17:29:42] <Moxified> I'm not sure if that was a compliment or not :)[17:29:44] <awkwardnewperson> today i can say it doesn't as long as they're on a /24 :)[17:29:53] <awkwardnewperson> haha it was a compliment[17:29:57] <Moxified> then thanks![17:30:09] <awkwardnewperson> so question, would i see a route on the machine from netscaler?[17:30:17] <awkwardnewperson> because route print doesn't show a route for thier subnet[17:31:56] <awkwardnewperson> even if they're on a /16 our subnets wouldn't clash[17:32:04] <Moxified> I'm not huge on networking tbh but I would expect a proper vpn connection would set a new gateway with the connected subnet. An issue could arise if you are connecting to a remote network that has mutliple routed subnets and your machine doesn't know that the new vpn's gateway is a forwarder. if that makes sense...[17:32:44] <awkwardnewperson> i'm not "amazing" but i'm fairly experienced in networking what you're saying makes complete sense. I'm just not familiar with Netscaler so I have no idea what to expect[17:33:07] <awkwardnewperson> no additional NIC is created on the computer, and the route table isn't displaying anything[17:33:15] <Moxified> we only use netscaler for ica proxy. There are several others here that use it for much more. Hopefully one of them can speak up.[17:34:22] <awkwardnewperson> also i would expect traffic to just not work at all period if subnets clashed[17:34:31] <awkwardnewperson> it DOES work just after a while[17:35:28] <Moxified> But, it does sound like either the netscaler needs some tweaking to tell the client about available subnets OR, the client's vpn connection needs more config. Have you tried creating manual routes? And as far as your last statement... clashing subnets and ip's are unreliable, not unreachable. Intermittent behavior wouldn't surprise me.[17:36:22] <awkwardnewperson> i guess, its just been reliably working after an unknown amount of time and always works until you logoff and on[17:36:41] <awkwardnewperson> i wouldn't mind making manual routes but i have no idea what they're supposed to look like since theirs no NIC and i don't know what the gateway would be[17:37:03] <awkwardnewperson> i mean it would be easy to spin up a VLAN and move the machine to a different subnet entirely[17:37:07] <awkwardnewperson> to see if thats the issue[17:37:30] <Moxified> that's a good test.[17:37:53] <Moxified> but if it ultimately gets routed through your existing vlan and subnet... it might not prove anything.[17:38:04] <awkwardnewperson> nah i'll be setting up a complete new one[17:38:12] <Moxified> using what for the router?[17:38:17] <awkwardnewperson> direct from gateway to workstation[17:38:20] <awkwardnewperson> using SonicWALL[17:38:28] <Moxified> right but same gateway?[17:39:02] <awkwardnewperson> it'll have diffferent IP[17:39:12] <awkwardnewperson> different interface on the SonicWALL[17:39:20] <awkwardnewperson> let me set that up now[17:39:25] <Moxified> probably fine. I just like to eliminate as much as I can when testing.[17:39:37] <awkwardnewperson> yea this will be a completely new network[17:41:05] <awkwardnewperson> if anyone else is around and has ideas i'll be here while i setup the new net :)[17:41:36] <awkwardnewperson> you guys every consider going to discord or slack?[17:42:04] <Moxified> we have slack. It's in the topic.[17:42:27] <awkwardnewperson> oh cool[17:42:42] <awkwardnewperson> literally read that 4 times and never reached the end[17:42:43] <awkwardnewperson> haha[17:42:48] <Moxified> I'm just ornery and old.[17:43:04] <awkwardnewperson> but emojis![17:43:19] <Moxified> yeah but fish slaps bro[17:43:27] <awkwardnewperson> haha[17:43:42] <tabularasa> i'm getting old and crotchety too[17:44:16] <Moxified> lol. people get angry when I say I'm old. I'm only in my 30's.[17:44:40] <awkwardnewperson> oh great[17:44:46] <awkwardnewperson> i'm almost 30 does that mean i'm old too[17:45:30] <Moxified> I'm sorry but yeah... think about it. I remember being in my early and mid 20's. I drove many 30-40 yo guys out cause I was faster and better... I'm looking over my shoulder now[17:45:40] <braynyac> @BobFrankly: try this: https://www.rootusers.com/fixing-blue-screen-in-windows-after-xenserver-tools-update/[17:46:18] <braynyac> Has to do with the upgrade between XS 6.x and 7.x[17:46:26] <braynyac> ran into this ourselves...it's a dumb one[17:46:51] <braynyac> actual fix is this: xe vm-param-set uuid=[UUID] platform:device_id=0001[17:46:58] <braynyac> from the host console[17:47:21] <awkwardnewperson> i do get that, i should start looking over my shoulder too :([17:47:40] <|Atum|> [08:46:51] braynyac actual fix is this: xe vm-param-set uuid=[UUID] platform:device_id=0001 <-- hey there it is :D[17:47:57] <braynyac> Meh, not likely - there aren't many people out there that have skillsets[17:48:22] <|Atum|> BobFrankly: the posted fix (platform change) is due to the master/gold image where PVS tools were installed having different platformID than the provisioned VMs[17:48:23] <Moxified> yeah, I'm mostly joshing. you'll be fine. Just keep up your chops. This is a changing field.[17:48:25] <braynyac> such as ours, and that are motivated to go search for answers in a community like this[17:48:40] <|Atum|> it doesnt seem to impact anything, but supposedly platform id is suppsoed to be 0002 in newer XS tools builds[17:48:43] <braynyac> Learn powershell, git, and keep learning[17:48:51] <|Atum|> that said, I've had to do this 0001 bit at basically everry XS+PVS customer ever[17:49:01] <Moxified> uhg... I keep meaning to do more with posh. I freaking hate scripting.[17:49:09] <braynyac> |Atum| - it is indeed. To get an "older" image to boot on a newer XS, need to change it from 2 to 1.[17:49:31] <|Atum|> The analogy in VMware is how you have to keep the SlotID the same (i.e. if the master is 224 and the vms prvoisioned with 192 or 160, you're going to have a bad time)[17:49:34] <BobFrankly> so Xenserver thinks the tools are current, and chokes when it tries to load them?[17:49:40] <|Atum|> No[17:49:49] <|Atum|> more like the virtual NIC is in a different slot in the virtual motherboard[17:50:00] <BobFrankly> I already checked for that[17:50:05] <|Atum|> UNderstood[17:50:05] <Moxified> what os?[17:50:07] <|Atum|> but the platform affects that[17:50:12] <|Atum|> same problem, different cause[17:50:16] <BobFrankly> and this isn't booting from PVS, it's booting from local[17:50:26] <|Atum|> Oh! you're still at that part[17:50:26] <BobFrankly> Moxified 2008r2[17:50:29] <BobFrankly> yeah[17:50:30] <Moxified> !!![17:50:39] <|Atum|> pop in windows disk and choose 'scan for problems and repair' (boot options)[17:50:42] <|Atum|> it will repair the boot bits[17:50:45] <Moxified> I had that issue with changing to new vmnics and veeam sure backup[17:50:49] <Moxified> there is a patch from M$ for it.[17:51:00] <Moxified> hangon.[17:51:00] <braynyac> BobFrankly - you already changed the platform_id?[17:51:27] <BobFrankly> braynyac: no, I imported the VHD to xenserver and failed to boot. Thats it.[17:51:33] <BobFrankly> it's still on 6.5 tools[17:51:40] <braynyac> that's fine[17:51:51] <braynyac> you just need to change that platform_id value from 2 to 1[17:51:55] <braynyac> that should allow it to boot[17:52:03] <Moxified> If it is the same as mine, it was this: https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1020078[17:52:06] <braynyac> we had this issue when we upgraded from 6.5 to 7.x[17:52:41] <braynyac> I can walk you through it, if you'd like[17:52:41] <Moxified> and not that I read it but here is a ctx post about pvs and this hotfix: https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/354677-pvs-61-now-requires-kb-2344941-or-kb-2550978-cant-install/[17:52:50] <braynyac> we had to change ~50 VMs, that sucked[17:53:33] <BobFrankly> I've changed that bit before, but thought it should be configured for non-current tools[17:53:39] <BobFrankly> I'm checking now[17:57:17] <BobFrankly> huh, had no device_id set at all[17:58:52] <BobFrankly> life![17:58:55] <BobFrankly> thanks braynyac[17:59:06] <braynyac> 👍[17:59:11] * BobFrankly curses the design decisions in XenServer[18:01:52] <BobFrankly> this detail has broken stuff enough that it *SHOULD* be in the GUI[18:02:22] <BobFrankly> Moxified: why you hate scripting?[18:02:53] <Moxified> I have a poor memory. This isn't a joke. I can't remember all the little syntax and commandletts etc.[18:03:06] <BobFrankly> you gotta start using it everyday[18:03:10] <BobFrankly> little by little[18:03:11] <tabularasa> i haven't lost that yet, luckily[18:03:19] <tabularasa> the memory[18:03:22] <Moxified> It ends up frustrating me. I have no use case for it daily.[18:03:23] <tabularasa> but yeah, don't use it, you lose it[18:03:32] <tabularasa> however, i seem to remember IP addresses forever...[18:03:48] <BobFrankly> Moxified: you need the function here: https://floobits.com/bobfrankly/Poshy/file/Show-StarWarsName.ps1:52[18:04:02] <Moxified> lol[18:04:04] <BobFrankly> copy paste lines 52 to 62[18:04:26] <BobFrankly> you use that against your AD, and laugh[18:05:29] <Moxified> I mean I can look at that and tell you exactly what it is going to do. But even programming adruino drives me nuts.[18:05:45] <BobFrankly> oh, I don't know about that[18:05:55] <Moxified> it's c or c++ you choose.[18:05:55] <BobFrankly> I'm largely powershell and JS[18:06:00] <BobFrankly> ouch[18:06:01] <Biny> bob is such a floobit[18:06:11] <BobFrankly> dang straight Biny[18:06:24] <Moxified> I also don't like M$ and have no desire to be locked into learning their infrastructure. I would sooner learn bash.[18:06:39] <BobFrankly> Moxified: powershell is open source[18:06:45] <BobFrankly> you can use it on linux[18:06:46] <Moxified> now yes.[18:06:50] <Moxified> and hell no[18:06:54] <BobFrankly> rofl[18:07:29] * BobFrankly pictures Moxified stroking his neck-beard in disdain[18:07:40] <Moxified> HA![18:08:00] <Moxified> ironically, I'm on of the least nerdy guy's you'll meet.[18:11:27] *** njbair <njbair!~njbair@2605:a000:122d:c17f:227:eff:fe0a:b289> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[18:11:57] *** njbair <njbair!~njbair@2605:a000:122d:c17f:227:eff:fe0a:b289> has joined #Citrix[18:15:44] <awkwardnewperson> are there tech specs on how the netscaler actualy works[18:15:48] <awkwardnewperson> it seems to proxy things through localhost[18:15:55] <awkwardnewperson> instead of using a nic[18:16:02] <uncon> some things, yes[18:16:16] <Moxified> aha, you got uncon.. you are lucky[18:16:40] * uncon slips away...[18:16:40] <braynyac> Ok, O365 email disclaimers in HTML are turds[18:16:50] <Moxified> lol! sneaky bastard.[18:18:04] <uncon> i prefer drive-by comments[18:19:15] <awkwardnewperson> haha[18:19:29] <awkwardnewperson> uncon not sure if you read up or were lurking[18:19:39] <tabularasa> the old peanut gallary[18:19:41] <tabularasa> gallery even[18:19:43] <tabularasa> my favorite[18:19:51] <awkwardnewperson> i have a vpn connection (with end user side access only) that traffic doesn't get sent through after connecting[18:20:11] <awkwardnewperson> it blocks lan/wan the way its supposed to but vpn traffic doesn't work for an X amount of time[18:20:23] <awkwardnewperson> so far its been like 5-10 minutes after connecting it'll start working[18:21:12] <awkwardnewperson> the same vpn server/software on computers off my network work fine[18:21:14] <awkwardnewperson> so they're blaming me[18:27:32] <braynyac> Ok, I like Firefox, but they broke my favorite extension, and now it pisses me off. The problem is, all other browsers have the same limitation - can't stack tab rows. You can have one giant scrolling line of tabs, but that's so stupid it's not even worth commenting on. Gah![18:27:38] <awkwardnewperson> @uncon left :([18:28:31] <uncon> i told you![18:28:40] <uncon> tell me what you see in the debug logging[18:28:50] *** murkk <murkk!~murkk@104.130.14.195> has joined #Citrix[18:28:59] <awkwardnewperson> the debug log goes by too fast[18:29:03] <awkwardnewperson> too much traffic being blocked[18:29:17] <awkwardnewperson> i tried trimming it down but aside from standard DNS requests and local LAN/WAN being blocked[18:29:20] <awkwardnewperson> nothing else showing up[18:30:36] <uncon> i don't believe you[18:30:38] <uncon> https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX138155[18:30:42] <uncon> https://docs.citrix.com/en-us/netscaler-gateway/11-1/maintain-monitor/ng-maintain-ng-plugin-logging-tsk.html[18:30:58] <awkwardnewperson> i stand corrected[18:31:02] <awkwardnewperson> i hadn't tried that :)[18:31:06] <uncon> debug logging has a couple tons of stuff that'll be interesting here[18:32:33] <awkwardnewperson> probably, just so we're all on the same page: https://imgur.com/a/9sckF[18:32:42] <awkwardnewperson> the UI is a little different[18:32:55] <BobFrankly> ooo, my monitor adaptor showed up[18:33:23] <BobFrankly> 3440 / 1440 replaced a 1080[18:34:28] <awkwardnewperson> @bobfrankly i just did that, its a crazy diff[18:35:25] <BobFrankly> yeah, I can see this being awesome for coding[18:45:17] <uncon> 1080p? is that still a thing?[18:47:27] <BobFrankly> uncon: amazingly so[18:47:42] <BobFrankly> I'm going to push for a 5k imac for my next workstation[18:48:16] <Moxified> any clue how expensive native 4k projectors (quality ones) are?!![18:51:38] <awkwardnewperson> so @uncon if i'm not mistaken the debug logs must be turned on from the appliance itself[18:51:44] <awkwardnewperson> and can't be turned on by the end user side[18:52:36] <Moxified> I wouldn't think so. Unfortunately, you are troubleshooting a problem that I'm not convinced you have the credentials to fix.[18:52:55] <Moxified> credentials as in logins... not skillset...[19:10:31] <braynyac> blerg. MDT is nice, when it works. When it doesn't, what a mess.[19:12:22] <braynyac> question - migrating web interface to storefront. If WI is <URL_1> and SF is <URL_2>, how hard is it to make the SF <URL_1> ? I.e. we want to replace existing WI URL with the StoreFront.[19:15:10] *** awkwardnewperson <awkwardnewperson!4779adc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.121.173.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:15:19] <murkk> anyone work with the xenserver 7.1 installer using serial over lan. I need to get to the shell and/or the anaconda.log and not having much luck with it[19:17:44] <braynyac> murkk: can't say as I have. That's a new one...[19:22:01] <braynyac> You can try hitting David Cottingham up on Twitter - if he doesn't know, can likely point you in the right direction.[19:29:22] <murkk> thanks[19:29:39] <murkk> will try a few more things[19:29:50] *** ello_govna <ello_govna!ello_govna@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/ellogovna/x-42533607> has joined #Citrix[19:51:39] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-17-101.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #Citrix[20:21:11] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Catching up: I can recommend going low-carb if IO is an issue and you need to drop some LBs[20:21:28] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> And I love MDT[20:21:31] <BobFrankly> dropping is what LBs are all about[20:22:19] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> I lost ~66lbs since June[20:23:04] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Dropped them like it’s hot[20:23:36] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Channeling my inner gangster, even autocorrect is failing me as it suggested hamster instead of gangster[20:24:39] <Moxified> I'm as gangster as Michael Bolton from office space.[20:25:57] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> I’m as gangster as Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory[20:33:05] <braynyac> I'm down ~40 lbs since a year ago, but I've kept it off, even through the holidays. That was my biggest accomplishment. Oh, and I haven't really changed what I eat - but I do drink less (I miss beer).[20:33:15] <tabularasa> impressive![20:33:53] <braynyac> it's really funny - the first 35 no one noticed. The last 5, EVERYONE notices.[20:42:31] <tabularasa> works the other way too[20:42:38] <|Atum|> hey congrats kbaggerman[20:42:41] <tabularasa> the first 30 pounds i gained, no one noticed.. the second 50? damn[20:42:50] <Moxified> congrats to both... tough to loose lots... I wouldn't know though :). I recently gave up beer too. Mostly cause I drank to much from a finances perspective...[20:42:55] <tabularasa> haha.. jokes though[20:42:57] <|Atum|> I was down 35, then I made the mistake of trying to add muscle and totally lost count. Now im above where i started :p[20:43:14] <Moxified> yeah but muscle is healthy and heavy.[20:43:16] <|Atum|> My goal tho is to just recomp to 10-12% BF[20:43:24] <|Atum|> Moxified: trouble is i know it isnt all muscle lol[20:43:29] <|Atum|> my scale also reads BF%[20:43:30] <|Atum|> :p[20:43:44] <braynyac> Moxified - I get you on the beers / cost thing. It can get expensive in a hurry![20:43:44] <Moxified> ah but you know and that's half the battle gijoe[20:43:53] <braynyac> I don't even know what my BF is...[20:44:03] <Moxified> braynyac, I don't drink cheap beer... I'm a snob.[20:44:07] <braynyac> and I finally got my Win2016 build to work with MDT!!![20:44:09] <braynyac> so am I =)[20:44:11] <|Atum|> grats[20:44:11] <Moxified> mine is like 0% I think.[20:44:11] <braynyac> Coffee too[20:44:30] <braynyac> thanks! No for seeing if I can layer XA 7.15 on top...[20:44:32] <Moxified> what! you quit coffee? I can't do that.[20:44:38] <braynyac> no, I'm a coffee snob[20:44:43] <braynyac> no way would I quit coffee![20:44:44] <Moxified> oh. that I am not.[20:44:46] <braynyac> might as well stop breating[20:44:50] <braynyac> or breathing even[20:45:20] <braynyac> BOOM! 3 minute install of OS with XS PV drivers![20:45:33] <braynyac> all of the config takes another hour, but at least that part is fast[20:48:11] <Moxified> what would people think is the best path to migrate an HA pair of NS from one vlan/subnet to a new vlan/subnet. It's doing ica proxy gateway, lb xml and storefront.[20:48:36] <Moxified> if BobFrankly says scripting I'll slap him :)[20:48:55] <braynyac> Scripting[20:48:58] * braynyac ducks[20:49:00] <Moxified> you aren't safe either.[20:49:03] <BobFrankly> yeah, I wouldn't do scripting for that[20:49:15] <Moxified> what is somebody talking? I just see noise.[20:49:35] <BobFrankly> mostly because I'm not familiar with the scripting interfaces for that, and barely touch it once every 5 years or so[20:49:36] <Moxified> seriously I'm talking from a dns standpoint really.[20:50:12] <BobFrankly> Moxified: is it just the management IPs?[20:50:16] <braynyac> For us, ours are VPXs on SDXs, so we just moved the VLANs on one, made sure it worked, flipped the DNS, then moved the HA pair. It was pretty simple.[20:50:17] <BobFrankly> or is it a ton of stuff?[20:50:48] <Moxified> there are about 5 virtual servers including the gateway.[20:51:07] <BobFrankly> and all of that is moving?[20:51:10] <Moxified> lb xml, lb storefront on 80 and 443, lb ldap, lb ldaps and lb ftp[20:51:14] <Moxified> yes.[20:51:29] <Moxified> we put in a new subnet but have the old still in place with routes.[20:51:51] <braynyac> That's over my head and pay grade. I'm a netscaler noob[20:52:01] <Moxified> I can easily change the NS config in notepad or whatever with the new ip and flash it but downtime and dns propagation time etc.[20:52:30] <BobFrankly> Moxified: I tend to look at those things in terms of front/backend[20:52:56] <BobFrankly> I'd make duplicates for the backside (the actual servers)[20:53:11] <BobFrankly> that way when you move them, the netscaler picks them right back up[20:53:24] <BobFrankly> the front end (vips) is where I'm not sure[20:53:41] <Moxified> It's only the NS's nics we are working with. The XD DDCs and such are long done... that's easy.[20:54:43] <BobFrankly> so the storefront stuff mentioned earlier isn't moving, it's already moved[20:54:58] <Moxified> each NS has 2 nics, one in dmz and one in legacy vlan. I need to move the internal nic to new vlan/subnet. I thought of adding another set of nics to each NS and configing those for the new vlan?[20:55:24] <Moxified> yes, sf, xml etc are all moved. I just added a route to the ns to route through our new core.[20:56:06] <BobFrankly> I like the idea of setting up the new nics, and then unplugging the old (while crossing your fingers)[20:56:19] <BobFrankly> but I'm not experienced enough to say yes or no on that[20:56:40] <Moxified> lol. I guess that's a new question then... can one just add a new vnic to the vpx vm and reboot?[20:57:03] <BobFrankly> oh, this is virutal?[20:57:10] * BobFrankly missed that[20:57:10] <Moxified> oh, yeah. sorry.[20:57:17] <Moxified> probably didn't say that so my bad.[20:57:49] * BobFrankly wonders if it would see the new vnics right away[20:58:07] <Moxified> I can test that... that's easy enough. I have a NS in lab.[20:58:17] <BobFrankly> what Hypervisor is this in?[20:58:24] <Moxified> esxi 6.0u3[20:58:42] <BobFrankly> ummmm[20:59:18] <BobFrankly> I *think* you could just make the new vlan available in the vSwitch, and then migrate the NS to the new IP[21:00:16] <BobFrankly> just use vlan trunking in the port group on ESXi[21:00:27] <Moxified> errr, I'm not so sure. I kinda think it's a trunk or single vlan.[21:00:54] <BobFrankly> yeah, you'd need a trunk, and the trunk defines which VLANs it allows[21:01:15] <BobFrankly> you can make a whole new portgroup if needed and migrate the NS vpx onto it[21:01:25] <tabularasa> you non networking guys trying to talk networking?[21:01:29] * tabularasa listens in[21:01:34] <Moxified> lol shut up[21:02:01] <BobFrankly> tabularasa: I've done some consequential stuff with ESX and the vswitches[21:02:17] <tabularasa> you seem to accuratly know what a trunk is, so kudos[21:02:33] <BobFrankly> ended up migrating everything from old vswitches to new ones with no obvious downtime[21:02:56] <BobFrankly> sure, I could have "upgraded" the vswitch, but that kinda thing scares the hell outta me[21:03:10] <Moxified> I'm not aware of how to create a pruned trunk in esxi. It really appears to be all or one.[21:03:35] <BobFrankly> Moxified: what verison is the vswitch?[21:03:40] <tabularasa> in esxi, all you do is have a vswitch and just add the vlan to the port[21:04:13] <tabularasa> regular switch, or dvswitch?[21:04:13] <BobFrankly> if he's got a legacy vswitch, it might be limited in it's capabilites[21:04:33] <tabularasa> i don't recall any version of ESXi that couldn't tag vlans on a vswitch[21:04:38] <Moxified> I'm not sure... where does it say that. I wasn't aware of a vswitch version.[21:04:53] <tabularasa> screenshot[21:04:55] <Moxified> oh I can tag but it is one or all[21:04:58] * BobFrankly is still using the old vsphere client[21:05:10] <Moxified> me too... is that why? I hate that flash garbage.[21:05:25] <BobFrankly> oh, in that case[21:05:34] <BobFrankly> home > inv > networking[21:05:47] <BobFrankly> click the switch[21:05:54] <BobFrankly> then click the summary tab on the right pane[21:06:03] <BobFrankly> version is under general[21:06:15] <Moxified> are you using distributed? I don't see any switches in networking, only the networks.[21:06:33] <BobFrankly> screen shot?[21:06:44] <BobFrankly> greenshot if you need to obsure stuff[21:07:06] <tabularasa> https://imgur.com/a/Ql679[21:07:11] <tabularasa> goto host, configuration, networking[21:07:27] <tabularasa> click properties on the vswitch[21:07:28] <tabularasa> click add[21:07:34] <tabularasa> make a new one, set to vlan BLAH[21:07:39] <Moxified> tab, yeah, I gots tons of those but you can't set more than one vlan per network unless you do a all.[21:07:48] <tabularasa> yes, that's how it works[21:07:54] <tabularasa> what are you trying to do?[21:07:56] <Moxified> EXACTLY!!! That's what I'm saying[21:08:13] <Moxified> bob says you can create a pruned trunk so say one that does vlan 5 and 10 but not 20[21:08:22] <Moxified> if I understand him[21:08:33] <tabularasa> but, what are you trying to actually do[21:08:53] <Moxified> oh. migrate my internal ns nics from a legacy network/subnet to new one.[21:08:59] <Biny> oh boy, xy problem![21:09:03] <BobFrankly> lol[21:09:20] <BobFrankly> you can limit the VLAN trunking from the port group[21:09:32] <BobFrankly> which is a child of the vSwitch[21:11:24] <tabularasa> Biny: yes, exactly. :)[21:11:50] <Moxified> Only thing I'm seeing is the ability to create a port group with a single vlan or ALL vlans.[21:11:53] <tabularasa> Moxified: i assume both subnets already are on an existing vlan?[21:11:58] <Moxified> yes[21:12:12] <tabularasa> so, just change IPs, and move the vNIC to the other network[21:12:14] <tabularasa> ?[21:12:17] <Moxified> I already have them as different networks (port groups) on my hosts.[21:12:29] <tabularasa> i don't see how trunking solves this?[21:12:30] <Moxified> yeah but what about dns delay.[21:12:53] <tabularasa> set the ttl down... like now[21:13:02] <Moxified> you would have to read back but suffice it to say as a temporary ability to have multiple vlans on the same nic during dns propagation.[21:13:13] <Moxified> and yeah, I know... probably the best way.[21:13:53] <BobFrankly> https://imgur.com/a/BkaKG <----if you really want to control VLAN trunking. If it doesn't matter, ignore Bob's distractions[21:14:21] <tabularasa> but if you do that, what's tagging that traffic?[21:14:25] <Moxified> are you using distributed switching though?[21:14:27] <tabularasa> i guess the NS could tag it, that's right[21:14:33] <Moxified> yes[21:14:38] <tabularasa> yeah, that can work[21:14:41] <BobFrankly> Moxified: yes, I am[21:14:47] <tabularasa> BobFrankly is a genious[21:14:48] <BobFrankly> tabularasa = network guy?[21:14:52] <tabularasa> :)[21:14:54] <tabularasa> genius even[21:14:58] <tabularasa> i am.[21:15:00] <Moxified> ah, BobFrankly, I'm not so I don't have those options.[21:15:12] <Biny> bob is such a floobit[21:15:28] <BobFrankly> I'm a donkeyhole. Get it straight![21:15:45] <tabularasa> yeah, that may be dvswitch only[21:15:45] <BobFrankly> Moxified: are you using dvswitches?[21:16:00] <Moxified> nope[21:16:08] <Moxified> simple standard vswitch[21:16:12] <BobFrankly> you have more then one VMware server?[21:16:16] <Moxified> yes[21:16:19] <Moxified> 7[21:16:21] * BobFrankly weeps[21:16:24] <Moxified> meh[21:16:26] <tabularasa> :([21:16:32] <tabularasa> yeah, that's painful[21:16:41] <Moxified> oh its not that bad but I hear ya.[21:18:06] <Moxified> oh and we don't have licensing for it... thats what I thought but had to look it up.[21:18:30] <BobFrankly> hates scripting, uses individual switches in a multi-server VMware env, Moxified is a masochist[21:18:34] <tabularasa> yeah, it's expensive.[21:18:51] <Moxified> what tab said... I'm a victim... get it straight :P[21:18:56] <BobFrankly> okay, THAT makes more sense[21:19:12] <BobFrankly> can't is different from choosing not to[21:19:18] <Moxified> well, I didn't want to speak about license cause they keep changing things..[21:19:29] <BobFrankly> that they do[21:19:31] <Moxified> I never said I chose not to hahah[21:20:01] <BobFrankly> yeah, I assumed vsphere license = dvswitches[21:20:15] <Moxified> I remembered looking at it once and dropping it... couldn't remember exactly why but assumed it was either license or limitations of our switches or something.[21:20:58] <tabularasa> not just licesnse.. i think it's enterprise and up[21:21:21] <Moxified> Only 3 have the same network config anyway. It didn't take that long. The other 4 have just the VDA vlan, management and vmotion.[21:21:34] <Moxified> the matrix says enterprise plus and up.[21:22:02] <Moxified> doesn't list a enterprise only though... perhaps there is only a plus now.[21:22:50] <tabularasa> perhaps.. i haven't looked at that stuff in a while[21:22:56] <BobFrankly> same[21:23:04] <BobFrankly> it works, I dont question it[21:23:16] * BobFrankly jabs xenserver in the ribs[21:23:38] <Moxified> we have a lot of the entry level licenses because our cxos are cheap bastards.[21:24:05] <braynyac> We just got all of our vSphere licensing up to date so we can upgrade everything from 5.5 to 6.5. _THAT_ was expensive. And we're non-profit! I couldn't imagine paying list(ish)...[21:24:30] <Moxified> yeah but you are much bigger footprint than we are I think.[21:24:49] <tabularasa> We are all VSPP licensing anyway[21:25:33] *** GoneNutsFMA <GoneNutsFMA!d1b89141@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.184.145.65> has joined #Citrix[21:25:43] <braynyac> not much...we have 13 VMware hosts across EVERYTHING (prod cluster - 4, DB cluster - 5, Test - 1, Backup - 1, Lab - 2)[21:26:02] <braynyac> but like BobFrankly, all XA is on XS, so no (additional) cost there[21:26:06] <Moxified> oh. we have 3 when you include our vsan lab.[21:26:18] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Should I do it?[21:26:20] <Moxified> we are 100% esxi. I want to go to acropolis soon for vda.[21:26:31] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> There you go[21:26:39] <braynyac> Kees! Moxified needs to talk to you! =)[21:26:41] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> ^ He did it for me[21:26:48] <braynyac> lol[21:26:58] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> AHV FTW![21:27:45] <braynyac> What are the minimum req's for the SSD for AHV? Specifically for home lab...I don't have big SSDs, but I'd like to play with it[21:27:59] <BobFrankly> I thought I read something that hyperconverged workloads were taking a significant hit from the meltdown/spectre patches[21:28:05] <Moxified> I think you can disable the requirements with the right commands.[21:28:08] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Size doesn’t matter;-)[21:28:30] <Moxified> but 200gb iirc[21:29:04] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Something like that.. I don’t have any CE because Nutanix is hosting my ‘lab’[21:29:22] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Have a NUC under my desk that needs to be configured for CE[21:29:23] <Moxified> keep in mind... ahv is the only option for ce. If you want to use esxi you cannot. Probably not an issue for you.. just something I found the hard way.[21:30:23] <braynyac> Right, I want to test AHV / CE. But my SSDs are only 32 GB =( Going to have to find some new ones![21:30:24] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Yeah, AHV only... it’s free so best to give away your own software vs others[21:30:35] <braynyac> always a good rule of thumb[21:30:44] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Run it nested in vSphere?[21:30:51] <braynyac> That's not a bad idea[21:31:00] *** Vapez <Vapez!~quassel@unaffiliated/vapez> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:31:03] <braynyac> I'll try that. Guess that means I have to update the VMware on my lab. Ouch.[21:31:03] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> They hired me for more than my pretty smile[21:31:17] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Who would have guessed[21:31:32] *** Vapez <Vapez!~Vapez@unaffiliated/vapez> has joined #Citrix[21:31:57] <BobFrankly> they hired me for my pretty smile, and then promoted the lunatic that lurked behind it[21:32:33] <Moxified> won't it think the disks are non ssd?[21:32:55] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> You can trick that, multiple blogs that show you how[21:33:00] <Moxified> oh cool[21:33:21] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> CE is easily ‘hacked’ accept for the hypervisor[21:33:28] <Moxified> alright.. got to hit that highway. later[21:34:08] *** Moxified <Moxified!~Moxified@smtp.planesense.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:35:01] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> 9:30pm Friday evening, I’m surfing the couch[21:40:42] * BobFrankly pictures kbaggerman balancing on his couch in his boxers[21:40:53] * BobFrankly shakes his head in an attempt to expel the image[21:40:56] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Boxers??[21:41:09] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> It’s the freaking weekend[21:41:17] * BobFrankly shakes his head even more vigoursly[21:43:49] <AnotherCTXadm> BobFrankly's head spins off his neck, rolling down office isle like a football (real, round ball game, not the other one)[21:44:06] <BobFrankly> you obviously haven't seen my head then[21:44:54] <AnotherCTXadm> ... landing like an anchor next to his still shaking body[21:46:02] <AnotherCTXadm> BobFrankly aka Arnold[21:47:36] <BobFrankly> twoooooooo weeeeeeeeks[21:51:17] <Biny> till christmas[21:56:56] <BobFrankly> the push is on, to shrink Citrix in favor of O365[21:57:59] <Vapez> i have low iops on 7.3 on a adaptec raid card[21:58:07] <Vapez> 15k iops on raid 1 of ssd for read and 5k for read[21:58:13] <Vapez> 5k for write*[21:58:55] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Low iops compared to what?[21:59:04] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> What kind of iops?[21:59:12] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> What’s the latency?[21:59:16] *** howdy <howdy!6158c65d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.88.198.93> has joined #Citrix[21:59:32] <Vapez> how i check the latency?[22:00:02] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> How did you check the iops?[22:00:10] <Vapez> with fio citrixslackbot[22:00:44] <Vapez> citrixslackbot: https://i.imgur.com/CvjTpM5.png[22:00:57] <Vapez> fio --randrepeat=1 --ioengine=libaio --direct=1 --gtod_reduce=1 --name=test --filename=test --bs=4k --iodepth=64 --size=4G --readwrite=randrw --rwmixread=75[22:00:58] <Biny> hehe you're talking to kbaggerman on slack[22:01:03] <Biny> not slackbot :)[22:01:19] <Vapez> oh, is the bot that manage the messages from slack[22:01:20] <Vapez> ok[22:01:36] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Yeah Slack addict here[22:01:57] <braynyac> So....MDT image build - 1 hour. MDT image cleanup prior to image capture - 1 hour =/[22:02:08] <braynyac> thank goodness for automation![22:02:23] <Vapez> https://slack.citrixirc.com/ it has ssl expired, btw[22:02:26] <Vapez> and i like slack too[22:02:27] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Check for SLAT in your FIO output[22:02:57] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> https://tobert.github.io/post/2014-04-17-fio-output-explained.html[22:04:49] <citrixslackbot> <laurflesh> @kbaggerman[22:05:33] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Hey @laurflesh check out https://tobert.github.io/post/2014-04-17-fio-output-explained.html[22:05:44] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> It has a few mentions of latency[22:05:55] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> And you say it’s low.. low compared to what?[22:06:02] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Precious XS installs?[22:06:09] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> VSphere?[22:06:17] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> To what you expected?[22:06:36] <citrixslackbot> <laurflesh> compared without raid[22:08:34] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> Just a single disk?[22:08:40] <tabularasa> i'm out. have a good weekend guys[22:08:56] <citrixslackbot> <laurflesh> yes, here is with a single disk without raid[22:09:00] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> How’s the firmware on the controller and/or disks?[22:09:18] <citrixslackbot> <laurflesh> idk, i asked on centos channel, i didn;t get the answer[22:09:47] <citrixslackbot> <laurflesh> i asked about the differences between the generic adaptec card raid driver vs this https://storage.microsemi.com/en-us/speed/raid/aac/linux/aacraid-linux-src-1_1_7-29100_tgz.php[22:13:01] <citrixslackbot> <laurflesh> lspci -nn | grep -i raid 02:00.0 RAID bus controller [0104]: Adaptec AAC-RAID [9005:0285] (rev 09)[22:13:05] <citrixslackbot> <laurflesh> this is the raid generic software[22:14:16] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> You’re talking about the OS Driver aren’t you?[22:14:23] <citrixslackbot> <kbaggerman> I’m talking about the firmware[22:14:34] <citrixslackbot> <laurflesh> oh[22:14:42] <citrixslackbot> <laurflesh> let me check[22:36:25] *** howdy <howdy!6158c65d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.88.198.93> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:20:05] *** rohlando <rohlando!~rohlando@173.245.137.250> has joined #Citrix[23:51:02] *** Vapez <Vapez!~Vapez@unaffiliated/vapez> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)