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[10:16:36] <p3rror> hello
[10:16:45] <p3rror> I need to monitor disk health of my vm
[10:16:51] <p3rror> may I use smart ?
[10:16:54] <p3rror> and how ?
[10:17:23] <p3rror> smart -a /dev/xvda gives me Unable to detect device type
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[14:33:03] <nyner> you might want to check the health of the disk(s) at the hypervisor level instead
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[14:51:56] <Biny> hmm, installed vda 7.13, was successful, didn't think to check add/remove programs
[14:51:59] <Biny> still lists 7.12
[14:52:16] <Biny> went back to try and reinstall 7.13 on master image and got 'sequence out of error' and the installer window closed but the installer is still active in taskmgr
[14:54:30] <Biny> XenDesktopInstall.exe still consuming CPU so going to let it it fly and see.
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[15:11:22] <tabulara1a> odd, i didn't have an issue with it
[15:11:25] <tabulara1a> i upgraded this weekend
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[15:14:05] <Biny> did your installer say it couldn't communicate with the storefront server? (I even just completely uninstalled it, clicked 'test', it threw the green checkbox) then when giving summary said it wouldn't be able to communicate
[15:14:15] <Biny> either way, just set it to 'auto set' through mcs
[15:14:19] <Biny> and it's going now
[15:14:23] <tabularasa> no, it just worked
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[15:18:06] <WyW_> has anyone else faced the issue with StoreFront + Unified Experience with Android/iOS devices?
[15:18:23] <WyW_> where you have to disable the unified experience on the store to make the mobile devices work properly
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[15:19:03] <WyW> I created a separate policy to identify the Android/iOS devices and direct them to a separate store now
[15:19:17] <Biny> weird, worked fine this time
[15:19:40] <WyW> however, the problem is that the user can mess things up by selecting the wrong store when they're queried
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[16:09:25] <David62277> good morning
[16:09:55] <David62277> Biny - when you installed 7.13 did it warn you that it couldnt talk to one or more of the DDCs?
[16:10:09] <David62277> im installing it now and it said that...
[16:11:03] <Biny> yeah David62277
[16:11:11] <Biny> then it appeared to have finished, restarted
[16:11:17] <Biny> checked control panel, and it still said 7.12
[16:11:26] <Biny> so completely uninstalled, reinstalled it, told it to let MCS/PVS pick the DDC
[16:11:30] <Biny> and it installed fine
[16:11:51] <David62277> weird
[16:12:01] <David62277> upgrade the DDCs yet?
[16:12:33] <Biny> I didn't the first time, but, DDC was upgraded the second time
[16:12:38] <Biny> and it still said it couldn't talk to it
[16:12:44] <Biny> even though thep revious screen has an 'add' and 'test' option
[16:12:48] <David62277> but it works in the end?
[16:13:10] <Biny> well, windows says it does, haven't pushed out the image yet as it'd be live into prod
[16:13:41] <Biny> another weird thing with DDC upgrade to 7.13
[16:13:50] <Biny> some windows desktops with latest receiver
[16:14:01] <Biny> have TransparentKeyPassthrough set
[16:14:09] <Biny> but after 7.13 upgrade no longer honor 'remote'
[16:14:17] <Biny> so peoples windows keys weren't passing through or alt tab
[16:14:24] <Biny> *queue twilight zone music*
[16:14:50] <David62277> thats not good..
[16:15:13] <David62277> if you set it on hklm on the master image does it honor it?
[16:15:19] <Biny> this is on the actual local machine
[16:15:21] <Biny> not the image
[16:15:38] <David62277> oh... gotcha.. latest receiver?
[16:15:52] <Biny> yeah, well, latest as of when I initially installed 7.9
[16:18:42] <Biny> wish citrix would fix 2016 interactive sessions though.
[16:19:08] <Biny> 30-45seconds for most users for interactive session logon processing on server 2016
[16:25:57] <tabularasa> wish microsoft would fix the 2016 licensing. heh
[16:26:04] <tabularasa> Anyone here running EDT yet?
[16:26:12] <tabularasa> or, Adaptive Transport as i think they are now calling it
[16:26:30] <David62277> nope not yet
[16:27:12] <tabularasa> Not too much in the community yet either
[16:28:03] <David62277> Biny after my vda upgrade it lists the VDA as 7.13 correctly
[16:28:18] <tabularasa> i'm testing the upgrade on my VDI as we speak
[16:28:20] <tabularasa> i got the same message
[16:28:24] <tabularasa> we'll see what happens
[16:30:37] <Biny> yeah i got the message, restarted, still showed 7.12, but shows 7.13 after complete uninstall/reinstall
[16:31:03] <Biny> guessing the message isn't actually an issue, just an installer bug
[16:32:05] <tabularasa> mine is from 7.6fp3
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[16:37:01] <David62277> Biny 7.11 --> 7.12 --> 7.13 (Windows 7 VDA has issues with 7.12, so skipped it until doing the upgrade figured id go in line) appwiz.cpl says 7.13 installed
[16:42:10] <David62277> god damnit i hate citrix sometimes
[16:42:29] <David62277> they know there is an issue with 7.12 vda and windows 7... they dont friggin fix it in 7.13...
[16:43:10] <Biny> new feature!
[16:45:40] <tabularasa> mine installed fine.
[16:46:24] <David62277> 7.12 + windows 7 = logoff = window doesnt closed and says session is interrupted
[16:46:28] <David62277> same thing for 7.13
[16:46:49] <David62277> window doesnt close*
[16:47:02] <paradizelost> can anyone confirm whether you can do RDP Gateway through a netscaler css?
[16:47:03] <Biny> oh yeah, David62277 -- my DDC lost it's default IIS config as well
[16:47:12] <Biny> had to go into stores, and re-set it as default
[16:47:19] <Biny> otherwise base URL just returned IIS page
[16:50:06] <David62277> yeah thats normal biny
[16:50:22] <Biny> and hmm, checking out EDT docs
[16:50:28] <David62277> i always go into iis and set it to /Citrix/StoreWeb and check the 302 box
[16:50:51] <Biny> it's saying that in director, you can see Connection type HDX and protocol UDP, then EDT is working
[16:51:04] <Biny> (I don't have EDT on yet, but, I just checked mine to see what it showed because I don't ever remember seeing anything there)
[16:51:11] <Biny> mine is N/A for all my user protocols @_@
[16:51:20] <David62277> on the line with citrix support - reopened my 7.12 vda case... they say they are working on a binary hotfix... which means until that comes out i cant upgrade to 7.13
[16:52:20] <tabularasa> oh noes
[16:52:24] <Biny> ah, RDP is N/A
[16:52:30] <Biny> wonder why mine is running in RDP
[16:54:47] * BobFrankly is trying to boot a 7.13 PVS 2016 Server on a 7.1 XS
[16:55:01] <BobFrankly> 7.12 would bluescreen
[16:55:28] <BobFrankly> 7.13 does as well....
[16:55:31] <BobFrankly> :|
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[17:04:34] <skurz> anyone tell me when i configure my xenapp 6.5 servers to use local browser vs the browser no the citrix server? i know i can re-direct to the local computer, but can't find the setting to save my bacon
[17:05:02] <tabularasa> you talking about local app access?
[17:06:59] <BobFrankly> well there is no saving of bacon, bacon should be consumed post-haste :P
[17:07:32] <skurz> lol. yes, basically need for the user, when they browse the web, it uses their local broser instead of the citrix IE
[17:10:12] <tabularasa> yeah, it's not in the GUI
[17:11:22] <tabularasa> sorry for that link
[17:19:10] <paradizelost> i anyone know of a way to use a css vserver to front an RDS gateway on windows server backend?
[17:20:15] <paradizelost> i've tried ssl_bridge and ssl_tcp but i just get The target vserver is not compatible with the CS policy expression when i try to bind it
[17:25:58] <paradizelost> nvm, i had to enable ssl bridging in the rds gateway and regular ssl works from there
[17:30:39] <skurz> got it working..thanks for the quick help...bacon svaed! ;)
[17:30:49] <BobFrankly> now eat it!
[17:36:14] <skurz> mmm, bacon!
[17:36:16] <skurz> :)
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[17:52:25] <tabularasa> skurz: np
[17:52:31] <tabularasa> paradizelost: i do not.
[17:58:38] <David62277> tabularasa... unidesk... can you have multiple platform layers assigned to 1 os layer?
[17:59:02] <tabularasa> i believe so, but i'm not 100% sure, i'm still digging in
[18:00:03] <David62277> hmm only letting me select 1 when trying to create a package
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[18:01:46] <David62277> damn i had it all split up, domain join/pvs software/XS tools/VDA
[18:01:50] <newbie1998> Hey guys
[18:01:54] <newbie1998> quick question
[18:02:29] <newbie1998> i always thought it didn't make a difference when creating a vdisk if the vm you are using is on the domain. is that true?
[18:02:41] <tabularasa> David62277: i'm not an expert, by any means
[18:02:51] <tabularasa> i haven't done more than the basic layering
[18:03:30] <newbie1998> so basically i am asking should the vm i use to create the vdisk be on the domain or does it not matter?
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[18:03:53] <RSRevord> morning
[18:04:43] <newbie1998> anyone?
[18:05:09] <tabularasa> newbie1998: i've always had it on the domain...
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[18:05:58] <newbie1998> i just wanted to be sure.
[18:06:07] <newbie1998> i want to make sure i am doing it right
[18:07:45] <newbie1998> When using Provisioning Services, create a VHD file for the vDisk from your master target device before you join the master target device to a domain.
[18:08:09] <newbie1998> Join the master image to the domain where desktops and applications will be members, and make sure that the master image is available on the host where the machines will be created.
[18:08:33] <newbie1998> thats what citrix documentation says but i've done it differently
[18:08:37] <newbie1998> what do you guys think?
[18:16:55] <tabularasa> i'd get |Atum|'s or RSRevord, or P2Vme, or JarianGibson's take
[18:17:37] <tabularasa> i'm so out of the loop on PVS, i feel bad. :(
[18:18:19] <newbie1998> are they around?
[18:18:29] <newbie1998> RSRevord -?
[18:18:36] <newbie1998> Atum - u there?
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[18:18:42] <tabularasa> well, i just pinged them all... so, if they are, they will come
[18:19:37] <Biny> if you ping them they will .. eventually .. show!
[18:21:13] <newbie1998> ok, i'll check back in a few
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[18:49:43] <natesd858> Do Windows 2012R2 XenApp applications servers on ESXi 6.0 suffer the same video rendering issues as Desktop VMs with VM version 11?
[18:56:43] <|Atum|> herm herm herm
[18:56:46] <|Atum|> hmm?
[18:57:05] <|Atum|> [09:07:45] newbie1998 When using Provisioning Services, create a VHD file for the vDisk from your master target device before you join the master target device to a domain. <-- Sounds hokey. Ive never done that.
[18:57:12] <natesd858> going with vm version 10 because I don't want to find out the hard way
[18:57:14] <natesd858> :x
[18:57:19] <|Atum|> I usually build everything then image it
[18:57:39] <|Atum|> natesd858: make sure if you're using PVS you do NOT have any sata controllers with it
[18:57:57] <|Atum|> see issue #1
[18:58:33] <natesd858> thx
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[19:30:06] <RSRevord> I've done it with and without joined to the domain
[19:30:10] <RSRevord> never noticed a problem either way
[19:31:22] <RSRevord> if i read these instructions it says to join once captured?? i am not really liking this doc
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[19:43:01] <David62277> just deployed a 2016 server to pvs from unidesk... pretty slick
[19:45:48] <newbie1998> hey, i am back
[19:45:59] <newbie1998> Atum
[19:47:37] <stormlight> I have a netscaler gateway that serves remote request to Xenapp (out of office) Then I have a few storefront servers that are internal that people point to direclty to so they dont have to traverse the Wan to use a citrix server thats local to them. Can I set my base url of my store F servers to be the same as the Netscaller and edit dns so when they type in the FQDN the go direclty to storeFront?
[19:48:23] <newbie1998> Atum & RSrevord - does everyone agree that i can create the vdisk when the master image is joined to the domain?
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[20:07:53] <SuicideJ4ck> newbie1998: either way will work, I've done both. As far as best practices goes, I would follow what these guys have said. One thing I have noticed is that when creating the vdisk, it makes you create a new name for the vdisk computer. So if you join the master to the domain, then create the vdisk, you will end up with 2 accounts in AD. 1 for the vhd of the original VM, and 1 for the vdisk
[20:14:18] <newbie1998> thanks guys..citrix should change that doc
[20:17:50] <|Atum|> Go to the docs page, click FEEDBACK, send your feedback
[20:17:52] <|Atum|> they DO read it
[20:17:57] <|Atum|> most times its within 2-3 weeks
[20:18:02] <|Atum|> sometimes its in 364 days :-)
[20:18:24] <|Atum|> depends on the team i guess
[20:18:28] <|Atum|> (looking at you xenmobile)
[20:19:25] <BobFrankly> anyone running the combination of XenServer / PVS / Server 2016 ?
[20:22:32] <BobFrankly> wondering if you installed the XenServer tools or not
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[20:30:22] <newbie1998> anyone have issue creating a host connection when the contoller is configured to only use TLS 1.2?
[20:39:07] <David62277> so unidesk - elastic app layers - doesn't seem to play well with server OS and shared desktops
[20:46:56] <tabularasa> well, that's not good... that's all i need it for... LOL
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[20:50:58] <David62277> unless i messed up... it doesnt work
[20:51:26] <David62277> layered winrar. assigned it to user 1. user 1 logged on no problem, user 2 logs on and the whole server freezes up
[20:51:54] <David62277> force restart... user 2 logs on no problem, then user 1 logs on - winrar shows up for both users
[20:54:25] <David62277> pretty sure if user 3 logs on it will freeze again
[20:54:37] <tabularasa> thats awesome
[20:54:47] <David62277> i think the elastic layers are for desktop OS only
[20:55:18] <Biny> that's .. no good. hah
[20:55:20] <David62277> going to see if i can just get the user elastic layer to work (profile managment)
[20:57:04] <David62277> also not sure how it works with mcs, but with pvs each time i publish the image it creates a whole new .vhd
[20:57:37] <David62277> not seeing the value add yet
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[21:25:54] <David62277> ok verified elastic layers dont work on server 2016
[21:27:02] <David62277> user or application
[21:27:31] <David62277> there is zero value add to this
[21:32:47] <David62277> unidesk elastic layers are per machine, not user. the only way it would actually work is on a desktop VDA.
[21:36:36] <newbie1998> i want to create a copy of a vdisk so i can re-import it into pvs with another name. Do i need to export the vdisk first or can i just copy the .vhd & .pvp files and then import that in?
[21:37:41] <newbie1998> what's the citrix supported way?
[21:38:02] <BobFrankly> so "unidesk" is really "unidesk-top"
[21:38:03] <newbie1998> i saw a post where carl stalhood suggest to just make a copy of the .vhd and pvp
[21:38:36] <newbie1998> anyone?
[21:43:50] <BobFrankly> newbie1998: I've made a copy before without ill effects, it's actually how I upgraded from XA65 to XA76
[21:44:04] <newbie1998> okie dok
[21:44:07] <newbie1998> thanks
[21:44:30] <newbie1998> what the heck is the export option for then? just curious...
[21:44:31] <BobFrankly> dont know that it's the "citrix supported" way, but citrix support hasn't instilled alot of faith in me lately
[21:44:55] <BobFrankly> I think export makes a copy with all versions
[21:45:14] <BobFrankly> if you're just going to copy the VHD though, you want to merge before doing so
[21:47:18] <RSRevord> just need the vhd
[21:47:33] <RSRevord> the pvp contains all the metadata info, but that you acn recrreate
[21:48:45] <RSRevord> export creates the xml that shows how to link all the version disks within the PVS console. (note that version disks actually have the name embedded into the vhd files so you can't rename them easily) best is to merge the vdisk then move it around
[21:49:13] <BobFrankly> ^
[21:49:36] <BobFrankly> much better explantion then my monday brain (or tuesday, wed, etc for that matter) could manage
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[21:52:43] <RSRevord> now if you want to replicate the exact same cache disk type size etc, taking the pvp along can also be useful, just not required
[21:58:51] <newbie1998> ok, thanks so much guys.
[21:59:04] <newbie1998> u guys rock
[21:59:41] <David62277> newbie1998 the export option creates a .xml file
[22:00:05] <David62277> so you can copy all the vhd,avhd,pvp files to a different pvs environment and import them there
[22:00:18] <David62277> is easier to just merge and move the vhd
[22:00:22] <David62277> or copy
[22:00:24] <newbie1998> ok, cool
[22:00:26] <newbie1998> thanks
[22:00:46] <David62277> oh.. RSrevord already answered... lol
[22:00:56] <newbie1998> yes, but thanks
[22:12:43] <zyphaz> thanks uncon for the how to run an ns vpx on proxmox link. now i have a vpx running on my qnap@home to putz around on
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