February 24, 2017 
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February 24, 2017 [00:01:00] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-20-224.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #Citrix[00:06:09] <BobFrankly> rolling pool upgrade = rolling barrel donkey kong?[00:09:20] *** aTypical <aTypical!~aTypical@h30.122.139.40.ip.windstream.net> has joined #Citrix[00:12:21] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:13:39] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[01:03:19] *** aTypical <aTypical!~aTypical@h30.122.139.40.ip.windstream.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:12:21] *** zncuser <zncuser!~zncuser@p4FE954C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:13:03] *** zncuser <zncuser!~zncuser@p4FE94EDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #Citrix[01:48:52] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-20-224.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[02:50:00] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:50:46] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[04:14:03] *** MasterXen <MasterXen!ca0e6b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.14.107.1> has quit IRC ()[04:45:21] *** nitram <nitram!~nitram@superblob.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:45:39] *** nitram <nitram!~nitram@superblob.com> has joined #Citrix[05:19:43] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:20:24] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[06:18:41] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:23:52] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[07:24:59] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-20-224.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #Citrix[09:17:27] *** sartan <sartan!~sartan@unaffiliated/sartan> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:27:32] *** sartan <sartan!~sartan@unaffiliated/sartan> has joined #Citrix[09:35:02] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mleofjguuztzvlkm> has joined #Citrix[09:55:57] <Lucasje> BobFrankly: time to wake up and start upgrading :p : https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2017/02/23/xenserver-7-1-now-available-for-download/[10:27:01] *** dasunsrule32 <dasunsrule32!~dasunsrul@68.14.216.227> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:27:51] *** dasunsrule32 <dasunsrule32!~dasunsrul@wsip-68-14-216-227.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #Citrix[11:55:41] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:56:45] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[12:12:33] *** hardlock <hardlock!hl@195-202-200-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has joined #Citrix[12:15:13] *** _hardlock <_hardlock!hl@195-202-200-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:29:41] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:34:31] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[13:00:49] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has joined #Citrix[13:09:39] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:13:04] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has joined #Citrix[14:30:07] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.73.206> has joined #Citrix[14:38:53] *** o0oScoRcHo0o <o0oScoRcHo0o!~o0oScoRcH@64.28.197.123> has quit IRC (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it)[14:43:39] <Biny> hm, i dont know why i've never seen/heard of xenserver.[14:45:42] <kahnibus> it works so good and never crashes why would you?[14:48:50] <Biny> sarcasm? :P[14:49:19] <kahnibus> meh...it's pretty robust[14:49:49] <kahnibus> if my server admins weren't loving Vsphere I would have my citrix enviro on xensever all day[15:00:17] <Biny> well i'd switch some of my vsphere installs over to it as most of our environment is citrix servers of some sorts[15:04:37] <kahnibus> Vspher works great with Citirx[15:10:04] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:17:55] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:22:25] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[15:22:46] <tabularasa> $$ is a powerful motivator[15:23:02] <Biny> yeah vsphere works fine[15:23:13] <Biny> but i have 2 esxi hosts I just racked and have to buy licenses for yet[15:23:21] <Biny> would be nice to save the $12k on licensing[15:24:08] <tabularasa> heh, we have like 30 hosts[15:24:13] <tabularasa> $$$$$$$$$$[15:25:13] <kahnibus> Cash Rules Everything Around Me[15:25:21] <Biny> up to 6 total now, convinced boss finally that we need n+1[15:25:37] <Biny> maintenance is so much easier now.[15:26:32] <Biny> also, cloudflare users -> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1139[15:29:10] *** dasunsrule32 <dasunsrule32!~dasunsrul@wsip-68-14-216-227.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:36:59] <tabularasa> nice[15:40:04] *** kevjr <kevjr!~chrome@198.177.93.249> has joined #Citrix[15:43:15] <Splatone> Morning[15:43:24] <tabularasa> morning[15:43:52] <tabularasa> man, i had some question to ask you, and i just forget[15:44:56] <Splatone> Have to tell you what citrix did....[15:45:13] <tabularasa> Please do[15:54:24] <uncon> (better be good)[15:54:48] <tabularasa> oh, it was...[15:54:49] <tabularasa> :)[15:55:11] <Biny> this list of cloudflare sites is massive. https://github.com/pirate/sites-using-cloudflare[16:04:22] <BobFrankly> Lucasje: I already started that yesterday. Thought "hmm, this is a test farm, I'll try the rolling pool upgrade".....yeah, about that...[16:11:54] *** bitkil3r <bitkil3r!49fd5a04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.253.90.4> has joined #Citrix[16:13:21] *** bitkil3r <bitkil3r!49fd5a04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.253.90.4> has left #Citrix[16:13:50] *** bitkill3r <bitkill3r!49fd5a04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.253.90.4> has joined #Citrix[16:15:37] <Splatone> So any suggestions on how to have the page file iops for our xenapp servers on local SSD (VMWARE) rather than our san?[16:16:23] <tabularasa> without PVS, right?[16:16:27] <Splatone> Correct.[16:17:46] <tabularasa> and, just to refresh my memory, you don't PVS because you'd need an image per customer[16:17:51] <tabularasa> and you have a ton of customers[16:17:58] <Splatone> Yes.[16:18:06] <BobFrankly> Splatone: I would think you'd need to make vdisks on the local drives, but if you do that you lose the ability to vmotion[16:18:09] <tabularasa> there is always the manual way?[16:19:21] <Splatone> BobFrankly: We have separate vmdk's for page file now but I'm pretty sure if I just put it on local storage it would not storage vmotion them with DRS.[16:22:04] <BobFrankly> Splatone: to my knowledge that's correct. We were just testing local->shared storage vmotions yesterday and it was not encouraging[16:22:21] <BobFrankly> Splatone: what kinda SAN do you have?[16:22:48] <Splatone> Netapp[16:23:36] <Splatone> Xenapp page file IO represents just over 1/3rd of our iops or about 11k[16:23:59] <BobFrankly> roughly how many VMs?[16:25:34] <BobFrankly> we're running about 100+ XA7.6 VMs, PVS, with the write-cache (including pagefile) on a purestorage san, and it barely shows up on the graphs[16:27:31] <BobFrankly> of course, our workloads may differ, even if we have like # of servers[16:27:42] <Splatone> Total or just xenapp servers?[16:28:07] <BobFrankly> that's just xenapp servers[16:28:10] <Splatone> We have roughly 310 xenapp servers.[16:28:41] <BobFrankly> we've got some other servers on it as well, but we're probably totalling around 150. We've probably got another 150 on our VNX[16:29:29] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:30:06] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[16:30:12] <BobFrankly> Splatone: are you trying to do proactive tuning, or are you running up against limits right now?[16:30:29] <Splatone> Proactive.[16:30:35] <Splatone> Capacity planning.[16:30:52] <BobFrankly> better then being IN the fire :P[16:30:55] *** AlexPortable <AlexPortable!uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxueukddiczstvcg> has joined #Citrix[16:31:13] <Splatone> Yeah pagefiles are pulling more than our DB servers which is crazy in my mind.[16:31:46] <BobFrankly> what does the RAM on those VM's look like?[16:32:13] <BobFrankly> sometimes (but not all times) rampant pagefile activity is a symptom of RAM pressure[16:37:24] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:39:41] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[16:40:49] <Splatone> We do max out our ram on some of the xenapp servers.[16:41:22] <BobFrankly> are you able to compare the pagefile iops of those to others?[16:41:28] <BobFrankly> curious how they compare[17:32:42] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.73.206> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:38:43] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:39:09] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[17:40:04] *** bitkill3r <bitkill3r!49fd5a04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.253.90.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:42:30] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has joined #Citrix[17:43:26] *** geheimnis` <geheimnis`!~geheimnis@23.226.237.192> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[17:47:03] *** dasunsrule32 <dasunsrule32!~dasunsrul@wsip-68-14-216-227.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #Citrix[17:50:01] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:50:42] *** geheimnis` <geheimnis`!~geheimnis@23.226.237.192> has joined #Citrix[17:54:36] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[17:56:25] *** newbie1998 <newbie1998!41337d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.51.125.10> has joined #Citrix[17:56:41] <newbie1998> Hello all[17:57:00] <newbie1998> i am having an interesting issue i would like your input on if anyone is around.[17:57:32] <newbie1998> get an error that says “An active server needs to be used” when using the imaging wizard. I am able to telnet to 54321 without any issues and the firewall is off on the pvs server. I checked the pvs console and the servers are not online. I checked the event logs and get Event ID 11. I did some research and found that the issue could be related to TLS 1.2 issue so I upgraded the Sql client but that did not resolve the[17:58:27] <newbie1998> does anyone know if something specific needs to be done for pvs to work with TLS 1.2 and AES encryption?[18:06:40] *** Tom_Wurm <Tom_Wurm!~IceChat9@8.17.115.68> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:10:24] <newbie1998> hello[18:18:04] *** marie1972 <marie1972!marie1972@cpe-75-81-138-153.kc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC ()[18:20:14] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!~GenteelBe@cpc70133-lutn12-2-0-cust324.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #Citrix[18:59:59] *** equilius <equilius!d044d80a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.68.216.10> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:17:15] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:20:02] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[19:24:15] <tabularasa> newbie1998: i do not know.. JarianGibson ? |Atum| ?[20:17:37] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:18:07] <paradizelost> uncon: you around?[20:18:20] <uncon> *sigh*[20:18:24] <paradizelost> lol[20:18:34] <paradizelost> i managed to get the template disk image imported, but this is all i get when i power on[20:18:35] <paradizelost> http://imgur.com/a/foRw2[20:19:00] <paradizelost> on kvm/ovirt[20:19:25] <uncon> is she spinning?[20:19:53] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[20:21:38] <paradizelost> nope[20:21:44] <uncon> that's very odd[20:22:18] <uncon> bootloader should be loading the kernel there[20:22:24] <uncon> from disk[20:22:43] <uncon> the same disk you have booted from there...[20:24:23] <uncon> slightly related: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/setting-up-citrix-netscaler-vpx-express-on-proxmox-3-4-cluster.21666/[20:30:33] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:37:30] <paradizelost> hmm i'm not finding those options in my list for CPU types or OS types[20:46:49] <BobFrankly> move the image to an NFS share, and the 'rolling pool upgrade' succeeded[20:55:49] <paradizelost> uncon: there we go, i'm getting further using the ESX image converted to qcow2 than using the KVM image for 11.1[20:56:59] *** marie1972 <marie1972!~marie1972@179.43.168.35> has joined #Citrix[20:58:07] <paradizelost> but nsroot/nsroot aren't working to log in[20:58:09] <paradizelost> did they change that?[21:07:02] *** AnotherCTXadm <AnotherCTXadm!~anotherct@38.98.64.242> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:11:04] <uncon> paradizelost: try with nsrecover : nsroot[21:11:07] <paradizelost> ok uncon, any chance you can get someone to add this to the docs: use qemu-img convert to convert the vmdk to qcow2, use VIRTIO NIC and VIRTIO hard drive, do NOT use virtio-scsi hard drive[21:11:21] <paradizelost> nsrecover worked but got me to a funky shell[21:11:36] <uncon> like[21:11:38] <paradizelost> after changing from virtio-scsi to virtio for the hard drive, it worked properly[21:11:38] <uncon> bash? (:[21:11:40] <paradizelost> yep[21:11:48] <uncon> paradizelost: you can do that yourself![21:11:54] <paradizelost> but there were errors and nsconfig wasn't there[21:11:58] <paradizelost> and all sorts of screwy stuff[21:12:08] <paradizelost> so apparently the image doesn't support virtio-scsi[21:12:12] <uncon> our docs have a link to make suggestions, corrections, etc[21:12:23] <uncon> what _is_ virtio-scsi?[21:12:48] <paradizelost> there are 3 options in my dropdown in ovirt, IDE, VIRTIO-SCSI, and VIRTIO[21:12:53] <uncon> "A virtio storage interface for efficient I/O that overcomes virtio-blk limitations and supports advanced SCSI hardware.[21:13:09] <uncon> i didn't know that existed[21:14:58] <paradizelost> woot i have web interface login to netscaler[21:15:11] <paradizelost> now i just need to get my gateway and crap rebuilt and my move will be complete![21:15:36] <uncon> add ns crap[21:16:12] <paradizelost> thats' what im' meaning[21:16:20] <paradizelost> my css and lb and etc.[21:16:26] <paradizelost> ns gateway[21:17:45] <uncon> bind vpn vserver crap[21:17:52] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:17:54] <uncon> i'm just helping you out with the CLI commands[21:19:21] <paradizelost> lol[21:20:30] <|Atum|> newbie1998: my suggestion is to use the direct to file imaging feature if you have 7.7+[21:28:45] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[21:35:10] <tabularasa> Splatone: i remember what it was[21:35:13] <tabularasa> you still around?[21:46:14] <paradizelost> nsppe at 100% cpu, any way to fix that?[21:46:18] <paradizelost> i've rebooted several times[21:53:20] *** johnelse_ <johnelse_!~johnel@static-84-9-133-23.vodafonexdsl.co.uk> has joined #Citrix[21:56:30] *** johnelse <johnelse!~johnel@static-84-9-133-23.vodafonexdsl.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:02:57] *** stormlight <stormlight!~stormligh@unaffiliated/stormlight> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:03:10] *** _hardlock <_hardlock!hl@195-202-200-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has joined #Citrix[22:04:05] *** hardlock <hardlock!hl@195-202-200-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:26:27] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:27:02] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[22:33:41] <citrixslackbot> <uncon> Nah, just deal with it....[22:47:01] *** kevjr <kevjr!~chrome@198.177.93.249> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:03:13] *** newbie1998 <newbie1998!41337d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.51.125.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[23:46:52] *** alazare619 <alazare619!uid194739@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gztwelrlcojiywoo> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:48:05] *** thorrr <thorrr!sid26124@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvpzniuvpreuckii> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:48:24] *** alazare619 <alazare619!uid194739@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-osjeztmijwdchpqh> has joined #Citrix[23:50:31] *** thorrr <thorrr!sid26124@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xemoknrfiwrbdqia> has joined #Citrix[23:55:02] *** alazare619 <alazare619!uid194739@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-osjeztmijwdchpqh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:56:28] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!~GenteelBe@cpc70133-lutn12-2-0-cust324.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC ()[23:58:07] *** thorrr <thorrr!sid26124@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xemoknrfiwrbdqia> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)