February 23, 2017 
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February 23, 2017 [00:05:02] <BobFrankly> right now I'm fighting with the monitor rule for the lbsvg[00:08:05] <BobFrankly> I check the server at /owa/healthcheck.htm and it returns 200OK<br/>serverFQDN[00:08:26] <BobFrankly> but with the rule on there, it goes into a down state[00:10:29] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!GenteelBen@cpc70133-lutn12-2-0-cust324.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC ()[00:13:04] *** td512 <td512!td512@2ProIntl/Board/Director/td512> has left #Citrix ("/!\ GOODBYE /!\")[00:14:52] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:19:38] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[00:46:34] *** nyner <nyner!8e53441d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.83.68.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:15:08] *** zncuser <zncuser!~zncuser@p4FE95F2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:15:39] *** zncuser <zncuser!~zncuser@p4FE954C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #Citrix[01:41:51] <citrixslackbot> <masterxen> @bobfrankly I read somewhere recently that has changed with Exchange 2016 and the healthcheck URL, I'll see if I can find it[01:49:21] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elfllsazmthhnmyy> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:50:48] *** sartan_ is now known as sartan[02:59:50] *** tfgbd_znc <tfgbd_znc!~someone2@2002:2d3e:f754::2d3e:f754> has joined #Citrix[04:05:18] *** MasterXen <MasterXen!ca0e6b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.14.107.1> has quit IRC ()[05:00:26] *** kumar <kumar!2bfea384@gateway/web/freenode/ip.43.254.163.132> has joined #Citrix[05:07:39] <kumar> We have a Citrix web-interface 5.2 version & we have un-intstalled a internal web site & again created the same site. But it is not working as expected & mainly its not working for vendors who have natted the IP. Can anyone please suggest how to fix the issue & is anything else we need to do from our end[05:11:23] <kumar> We also have a CSG 3.3 version[06:14:59] *** kumar <kumar!2bfea384@gateway/web/freenode/ip.43.254.163.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:24:21] *** jaelae <jaelae!uid177201@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jjydacdvclfbjupr> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[06:32:06] *** marie1972 <marie1972!marie1972@cpe-75-81-138-153.kc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC ()[07:12:31] *** hardlock <hardlock!hl@195-202-200-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has joined #Citrix[07:13:57] *** _hardlock <_hardlock!hl@195-202-200-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:23:54] *** natesd858 <natesd858!9798652c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.152.101.44> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:55:16] *** Doorcellar <Doorcellar!~chrisc@185.30.26.229> has joined #Citrix[11:11:49] *** AlexPortable <AlexPortable!uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-juoluxmllszmammc> has joined #Citrix[11:27:55] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xovyfoszetqwrplz> has joined #Citrix[11:49:47] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has joined #Citrix[11:53:04] *** leonardo__ <leonardo__!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:54:39] *** LndGoncalevs <LndGoncalevs!~LndGoncal@170.81.94.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:48:51] <WyW> uncon Lucasje , have you pushed director out using UGW as cVPN?[12:53:31] <WyW> thinking of the form based sso[13:09:08] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:14:30] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[13:47:45] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.73.206> has joined #Citrix[13:48:20] <Lucasje> WyW: I have in lab, but haven't bothered with any type of sso :)[13:53:17] <WyW> https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX124794[14:00:11] <WyW> wasn't a walk in the park[14:06:24] <Lucasje> :) thx for the info[14:06:39] <Lucasje> you set it up for a client in production or ?[14:16:40] <_abraham> good morning. how does one deal with adobe acrobat XI licensing and deploying XA servers via MCS... the vdas eventually start complaining about activation and wont let you activate because of the number of computers activated.. etc etc[14:17:37] <kahnibus> _abraham, I believe Adobe licensing varies depending on who is licensing it. I work at higher ed...we have switched licensing structures with Adobe a few times over the course of 2 years each time it is different[14:18:25] <_abraham> hmm yeah, i dont want to tell the customer they now have to purchase subscription based licensing..[14:19:07] <kahnibus> currently we only publish apps (no vdi) so I haveAdobe Acrobat and DC licensed using the Adobe serialization tool and the valid serial[14:19:19] <kahnibus> which is associated with our campus' valid adobe email[14:19:23] <kahnibus> it works pretty well[14:19:54] <kahnibus> when customers launch the virtualized app of Adobe DC it opens without any issue.[14:23:49] <WyW> Lucasje: something in between[14:23:55] <WyW> sort of a demo but potential for prod also[14:31:57] *** KaiForce_ <KaiForce_!~chatzilla@107-223-70-10.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131])[14:38:31] *** Minnebo <Minnebo!~Jordy@office.exabyte.be> has joined #Citrix[14:46:11] *** zax1 <zax1!~zax1@host86-187-139-52.range86-187.btcentralplus.com> has joined #Citrix[14:46:27] <zax1> good morning yanks[14:46:44] <zax1> good afternoon Europeans[14:46:52] <zax1> good evening kiwis[14:47:28] <zax1> anyone ever set up a netsclaer with an external SAML server for federated authentication ?[14:47:56] <zax1> need to set this up, and to explain to the security team what is involved... wish i knew my self...[14:48:23] <zax1> do you know of a good resource for requirements, traffic flows, ports etc ?[14:54:51] <uncon> zax1: have you seen this: https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2016/08/19/deploying-saml-authentication-with-adfs-for-federated-authentication-services/[14:55:54] <zax1> yes, i did[14:56:10] <zax1> i am trying to use OKTA as the SAML authentication server[14:56:33] <zax1> it seems like the only traffic in and out is via 443, but i am struggling to prove it[14:56:41] <zax1> uncon, thanks by the way[14:57:25] <uncon> i thought that was the whole point[14:58:32] <zax1> what do you mean ? the 443 ?[14:58:33] <uncon> as someone who has not set it up himself, i think it is accurate that it's 443[14:58:51] <uncon> (only)[14:59:10] <zax1> i'll be grilled of its not, so just trying to find the citrix/okta docs that point it out[15:02:43] <zax1> uncon, in the above doc the ADFS is internal(DMZ?) but what we are trying to do is to have an Internet service(dare i say it ? cloud based )[15:13:26] *** kahnibus <kahnibus!~Alex@129.3.73.206> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:16:32] <uncon> it's the same thing, except you don't have to deal with ADFS[15:17:33] <uncon> zax1: in the above, it's internet accessible, and that's the key[15:19:19] <uncon> (since that will be hosted)[15:25:42] *** Doorcellar <Doorcellar!~chrisc@185.30.26.229> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:30:54] *** zax1 <zax1!~zax1@host86-187-139-52.range86-187.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:39:38] <Splatone> Morning.[15:49:08] *** Tom_Wurm <Tom_Wurm!~IceChat9@8.17.115.68> has joined #Citrix[15:52:45] <uncon> morning[16:04:38] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!~GenteelBe@cpc70133-lutn12-2-0-cust324.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #Citrix[16:08:58] *** Minnebo <Minnebo!~Jordy@office.exabyte.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:09:57] *** saintpablos <saintpablos!~saintpabl@185.85.7.107> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:30:55] <tabularasa> morning[16:32:36] <BobFrankly> looking at quotes for our new xenserver hardware[16:32:44] * BobFrankly begins drooling[16:36:02] <BobFrankly> looking at 15 XA-VMs per blade, each XA-VM having 16GB of RAM, roughly 2GB write-cache, supporting about 15 users apiece[16:37:03] <BobFrankly> some of you might aim at less VMs, more RAM, more users I think[16:45:10] <Biny> https://shattered.io/ <- reasons to make sure you are off sha1[16:46:13] <SuicideJ4ck> BobFrankly: HyperConverged?[16:56:04] *** _abraham <_abraham!08117531@gateway/web/freenode/ip.8.17.117.49> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:57:01] <BobFrankly> SuicideJ4ck: not familiar enough with that term to say[17:01:30] <SuicideJ4ck> omitting the finer points, It's basically using the storage on the servers instead of NAS. It's what products like nutanix and simplivity are doing.[17:02:04] <BobFrankly> ah, so no.[17:02:59] <BobFrankly> We've got a PureStorage for the XA-VM write-caches, and then the PVS-hosts are in VMWare on an EMC-VNX[17:04:16] <BobFrankly> how's nutanix pricing anyway?[17:04:23] <SuicideJ4ck> high. lol[17:05:15] <BobFrankly> is there a rough premium percentage?[17:06:12] <BobFrankly> as in, is it double cost? cost and a half? trying to see if it's worth poking the bear that will call and e-mail me over and over[17:15:02] <SuicideJ4ck> not sure. we looked at them about a year ago. they were offering us a starter bundle that was deeply discounted because we are education[17:16:33] <BobFrankly> ah, so are we[17:16:47] <eightzerofivekc> So is MDX toolkit free now?[17:16:52] <eightzerofivekc> I mean the cloud version[17:17:39] <BobFrankly> where's Atum hiding?[17:17:45] <SuicideJ4ck> let me see if I can dig up the quotes[17:18:15] <BobFrankly> SuicideJ4ck: if you can, that'd be cool, but don't dig too deep on my account :P[17:18:35] *** stinger2016 <stinger2016!41337d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.51.125.10> has joined #Citrix[17:19:08] *** stinger2016 <stinger2016!41337d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.51.125.10> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:19:38] *** newbie1998 <newbie1998!41337d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.51.125.10> has joined #Citrix[17:19:49] <newbie1998> hello all[17:19:52] <newbie1998> quick question[17:19:58] <eightzerofivekc> quick answer[17:20:05] * eightzerofivekc drops mic[17:20:16] * BobFrankly appluads[17:20:31] <newbie1998> do you guys still disable netque and spanning tree for PVS 7.9 environments?[17:20:38] <newbie1998> its mentioned in this article - https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX204107[17:20:57] <newbie1998> BobFrankly are you around?[17:21:19] <BobFrankly> I'm more straight bodied[17:21:29] <newbie1998> lol[17:21:33] <eightzerofivekc> newbie1998, its recommended to enable port fast[17:21:49] <BobFrankly> and we disabled spanning tree and it helped with some booting issues[17:21:53] <eightzerofivekc> You want your PXE/DHCP options to kick in right away[17:22:16] <tabularasa> never disable spanning tree.. just enable port fast[17:22:25] <newbie1998> i see[17:22:31] <newbie1998> so is the article wrong?[17:22:38] <tabularasa> no, it's in the same line[17:22:46] <BobFrankly> we might've just enabled port fast. I gave the document to the network engineer and he did the work[17:23:29] <newbie1998> so is the article wrong?[17:23:35] <BobFrankly> we were losing roughly 15% of our PVS servers each night[17:23:46] <BobFrankly> the network port changes resolved that[17:23:48] <newbie1998> it says to disable spanning tree[17:24:05] <newbie1998> so its one or the other?[17:24:10] <eightzerofivekc> newbie1998, its spanning-tree port-fast enabled[17:24:41] <newbie1998> sorry, i am not following[17:24:46] <newbie1998> this is what it says - Disable Spanning Tree or Enable Port Fast on Switch.[17:25:05] <newbie1998> so either we disable spanning tree or enable port fast, correct?[17:25:11] <BobFrankly> newbie1998: I barely do as well, which is why I handed it off to the network engineer[17:25:30] *** natesd858 <natesd858!9798652c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.152.101.44> has joined #Citrix[17:25:33] <natesd858> gm[17:25:34] <eightzerofivekc> You want spanning tree, it will help you prevent network loops[17:25:46] <eightzerofivekc> I mean unless you are sure you dont have a loop[17:25:56] <eightzerofivekc> You can disable spanning-tree[17:25:57] <natesd858> Anyone running PVS on ESXi 6? Any advice on SR-IOV vs. VMXNET3?[17:26:00] <BobFrankly> SuicideJ4ck: When you were looking, how agressive was the Nutanix guys?[17:26:03] <eightzerofivekc> If you are not sure at all, just do the enable port fast[17:26:13] <newbie1998> i see[17:26:17] <eightzerofivekc> I want NUTanix![17:26:34] <newbie1998> i'll probably post something on citrix forum and maybe they'll answer[17:26:43] <newbie1998> i wish they put more information in those docs[17:26:50] <natesd858> which[17:27:07] <newbie1998> like who the heck am i supposed to explain this to the client.[17:27:09] <natesd858> we just setup 4 blocks on their own 5K pod[17:28:25] <SuicideJ4ck> BobFrankly: We are a dell shop so we used the our regular guy. del sells everything now. EMC, nutanix, and VMWare[17:30:29] <BobFrankly> SuicideJ4ck: oh awesome, did not know that. We're a dell shop as well, so I'll pass that on to our hardware guy[17:50:32] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:54:12] *** aTypical <aTypical!~aTypical@h30.122.139.40.ip.windstream.net> has joined #Citrix[17:59:23] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[18:29:41] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:32:18] *** djinni <djinni!~djinni@68.ip-149-56-14.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:35:07] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[18:35:40] *** djinni <djinni!~djinni@68.ip-149-56-14.net> has joined #Citrix[18:40:23] <BobFrankly> after comparing Nutanix to our Dell M1000 Chassis quote, M1000 $ * 3 = Nutanix, if you already have your storage solution.[18:44:39] <tabularasa> suprisingly i got them to come down like 75% on their last quote[18:44:46] <tabularasa> it was comparible last time we quotted it[18:47:32] <BobFrankly> the problem I see with that, is that once you're in bed with them, down the line they may be less likely to give the same breaks[18:48:11] <tabularasa> very true[18:49:21] <BobFrankly> that may be all fine and proper on a car, but when it comes to long term datacenter planning, it feels like aiming a gun at my foot and waiting 5-7 years before the trigger gets pulled[18:51:11] <SuicideJ4ck> CUGC webinar on unidesk[18:51:14] <SuicideJ4ck> http://bit.ly/2jLNPYM[18:51:23] <SuicideJ4ck> starting in 10 minutes[18:51:54] <tabularasa> niuce[18:51:57] <tabularasa> nice, even[18:54:11] <eightzerofivekc> Do we get unidesk for free now?[18:54:20] <tabularasa> not yet[18:58:14] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:59:30] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[19:00:35] <BobFrankly> I saw a Unidesk presentation, not seeing it as a good fit for me[19:07:10] *** nyner <nyner!8e53441d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.83.68.29> has joined #Citrix[19:13:36] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[19:15:56] <Tom_Wurm> heh Citrix will come up with a new platinum level for Unidesk.. duh..[19:16:09] <tabularasa> heh[19:16:10] <Tom_Wurm> will go to workspace suite plat customers[19:16:14] <Tom_Wurm> not XD plat[19:16:35] <Tom_Wurm> thats my best guess.[19:16:36] <BobFrankly> yeah, I was thinking the same when WEM got brought in[19:17:30] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[19:17:34] <Tom_Wurm> thats why now software maintenance, they changed platinum level so many times no one thought it worth to keep paying yearly because you arent gonna actually get the new stuff like promised without uplift to "next" platinum level.[19:29:28] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:36:00] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[19:47:12] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-20-224.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has joined #Citrix[20:10:28] <newbie1998> https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2017/02/23/kickoff-2017-with-xenapp-xendesktop-7-13/[20:12:07] <tabularasa> AMD GPU integration?[20:12:08] *** MasterXen <MasterXen!ca0e6b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.14.107.1> has joined #Citrix[20:17:48] <Biny> sweet, it's out already[20:18:00] *** AlexPortable <AlexPortable!uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-juoluxmllszmammc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:18:48] <BobFrankly> heh, this must be why my citrix support contact has been so quiet[20:18:54] <newbie1998> yes[20:19:01] <BobFrankly> now he can say "it needs to be upgraded" again[20:20:33] *** marie1972 <marie1972!marie1972@cpe-75-81-138-153.kc.res.rr.com> has joined #Citrix[20:21:12] * BobFrankly checks for updates on his XS7.0 farm....#wishfulThinking[20:24:18] <newbie1998> can i use pvs target device software 7.12 while using a PVS 7.9 server?[20:24:34] <BobFrankly> middle of the quarter too, so they're pretty much on target[20:25:24] <BobFrankly> XS7.1 has a PVS accelerator[20:25:33] * BobFrankly puts a brick on that pedal[20:25:49] <newbie1998> anyone?[20:26:48] <BobFrankly> newbie: check the PVS upgrade procedure, whichever one it tells you to upgrade first is the one that can operate above the other[20:27:15] * BobFrankly is going to ignore the proceedure because he's altering his test farm[20:49:08] *** eightzerofivekc <eightzerofivekc!~eightzero@rrcs-74-62-27-130.west.biz.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:02:12] *** GenteelBen <GenteelBen!~GenteelBe@cpc70133-lutn12-2-0-cust324.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC ()[21:06:03] * BobFrankly attempts a rolling pool upgrade using IIS[21:42:41] *** _hardlock <_hardlock!hl@195-202-200-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has joined #Citrix[21:43:14] *** harukomoto <harukomoto!~harukomot@93-41-20-224.ip79.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:45:21] *** hardlock <hardlock!hl@195-202-200-167.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:55:41] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:55:44] <BobFrankly> I know some of you guys are in healthcare: https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/02/phish-me-if-you-can-frank-abagnale-says-tech-will-never-defeat-social-engineering/[21:55:52] <BobFrankly> interesting read regardless though[22:00:34] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[22:27:44] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:28:40] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[22:31:59] <|Atum|> sooooo[22:32:02] <|Atum|> Netscaler clustering[22:32:07] <|Atum|> NSGW[22:32:15] *** newbie1998 <newbie1998!41337d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.51.125.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:32:40] <|Atum|> Last time i looked at this, vpn vservers couldn't be clusered(?) - is that still the case?[22:32:46] <|Atum|> so you still had a 10k ica proxy limit per cluster[22:41:20] <tabularasa> iirc it is still the case, but i haven't looked in a while[22:49:22] *** Lucasje <Lucasje!uid24226@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xovyfoszetqwrplz> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[23:19:36] <uncon> |Atum|: https://docs.citrix.com/en-us/netscaler/11-1/clustering/cluster-features-supported.html[23:20:07] <uncon> ICA Proxy is supported on 11.x[23:21:57] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:22:31] *** stryx` <stryx`!~stryx@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776> has joined #Citrix[23:22:56] <BobFrankly> ugh, all the documentation for xenserver 7 and 7.1 is pdf[23:23:24] <uncon> uhhh[23:23:26] <uncon> wth[23:23:48] <uncon> BobFrankly: indeed.... that's lame[23:43:07] <BobFrankly> tried a rolling pool upgrade, failed on the host master :\[23:47:48] *** aTypical <aTypical!~aTypical@h30.122.139.40.ip.windstream.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:55:05] <|Atum|> uncon: tyvm :)[23:55:47] <|Atum|> BobFrankly: business as usual