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[00:20:37] <esv> version 4.2.100 works fantastically!!!! THANK YOU very much!!!!
[00:20:48] <esv> AnotherCTXadm: ^^^^
[00:21:14] <esv> tabularasa: thanks for keeping the clients handy too.
[00:24:13] <P2Vme> paradizelost: Desktop OS Application publishing does not require RDS cals.. have never tried to publish an app from a remote-pc machine but what you are describing is what used to be called VM hosted apps
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[01:05:54] <AnotherCTXadm> your welcome
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[13:21:21] <NoxiousPloK> so, our users start the RES desktop in fullscreen mode, as a published application
[13:21:34] <NoxiousPloK> but inside RES, I want them to be able to start other applications in seamless mode
[13:21:54] <NoxiousPloK> thsi affects the next time they use the web interface to start the RES desktop, because it remembers the 'seamless' setting
[13:22:06] <NoxiousPloK> can I force fullscreen/seamless in one way or another onto an application?
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[15:08:34] <tabularasa> not sure with RES..
[15:09:44] <tabularasa> morning peeps
[15:15:58] <nyner> good friday morning
[15:17:46] <tabularasa> true true
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[15:43:59] <David62277> tgif, but i have to work tomorrow :\
[15:44:03] <David62277> scheduled maint
[15:44:50] <tabularasa> i'm doing a 7.12 upgrade for our internal
[15:46:30] <David62277> im upgrading pvs/xd to 7.12, and wem to 5.1
[15:46:31] <David62277> er
[15:46:33] <David62277> 4,1
[15:46:37] <David62277> 4.1
[15:46:41] <David62277> christ... fat finger friday
[15:49:14] <tabularasa> lol
[15:49:47] <Biny> are you using FTL packets to accomplish the 5.1 update?!
[15:51:31] <David62277> yes... i use ftl packets to get all my updates... ill be upgrading to XD 10 soon
[15:51:45] <David62277> :)
[15:57:23] <nyner> don't forget to backup the sql db for WEM. I had to rollback to 4.0 and restore the db when I tried the upgrade
[16:07:13] <David62277> yeah i always backup databases and snapshot
[16:07:49] <David62277> ive already upgraded my DR environment... no problems with upgrading wem. what happened in your case nyner?
[16:18:59] <tabularasa> Splatone: you around?
[16:20:47] <natesd858> lol Biny
[16:21:55] <BobFrankly> happy friday
[16:25:31] <David62277> tabularasa what is terrible about o365? there has been an effort to move to it here... hasnt happened yet
[16:26:33] <tabularasa> it's "fine" in VDI, it's terrible in XA
[16:27:20] <uncon> why?
[16:27:23] * BobFrankly thinks of onenote and throws a chair
[16:27:27] <tabularasa> managing updates...
[16:27:38] <uncon> ah
[16:27:42] <David62277> cant block updates?
[16:28:04] <tabularasa> updates are per-user... and you can't manage them from windows update
[16:28:11] <David62277> oh that sucks
[16:28:22] <tabularasa> yeah, big time
[16:28:46] <David62277> BobFrankly - what is bad about onenote?
[16:28:53] <tabularasa> so, take it if you have 100 environments... you ahve to manage a "update" share, in each environment, then figure out how to run through the update process across all environments....
[16:29:06] <tabularasa> vs, using MSP software to run windows update (or wsus) across all those systems
[16:29:36] <David62277> isnt there some service or something you can disable to not allow the update to happen?
[16:29:47] <David62277> maybe windows installer?
[16:29:56] <tabularasa> you can disable updates when you install it, yes
[16:30:09] <tabularasa> if there's a good way to manage it large scale, i dn't know it
[16:31:00] <David62277> so user A logs onto server A - it updates their o365 software. then user B logs onto server A... it updates for that user too?
[16:31:12] <BobFrankly> David62277: Onenote keeps a ....cache/copy of the onenote data file. It keeps it on the local xenapp server. You cannot redirect that file to a network share. We have some users that have 1+ GB onenote files, so it produces a cache typically 1.5 * the data file
[16:31:15] <David62277> installed to appdata?
[16:31:22] <tabularasa> BobFrankly: you can symlink it
[16:31:29] <David62277> BobFrankly you can redirect it
[16:31:30] <tabularasa> i have it working fine
[16:31:38] <BobFrankly> tabularasa: tried that, it threw errors for me
[16:31:40] <tabularasa> David62277: well, there in lies the problem
[16:31:43] <BobFrankly> in 2003
[16:31:49] <tabularasa> BobFrankly: 2003? i'm in 2016...
[16:31:55] <David62277> im 2013
[16:32:13] <BobFrankly> tabularasa: that's in the works, but I have to get past this glitch with XS7 tools and PVS
[16:32:14] <tabularasa> installing updates, with users logged in, and using office, not in install mode, etc etc
[16:32:21] <David62277> BobFrankly - did the symbolic link actually get created?
[16:32:21] <tabularasa> i don't know about 2003....
[16:32:31] <BobFrankly> blah, 2013
[16:32:36] <BobFrankly> friday brain
[16:32:54] <tabularasa> lol
[16:33:44] <David62277> you have to give everyone rights (i do domain users) to create symbolic links - it is a windows OS thing and the application shouldn't have any idea that the files don't reside locally
[16:33:45] <BobFrankly> David62277: been awhile since I looked at it, but I was trying all sorts of approaches out on a single user
[16:34:15] <tabularasa> yeah, there is some secpol setting you need to make
[16:34:18] <BobFrankly> David62277: OneNote threw the error for 'hey, this ain't local dude'
[16:34:40] <David62277> did it stop it from working, or did it just warn?
[16:34:45] <BobFrankly> David62277: stop
[16:35:29] <David62277> hmm let me test in my environment... pretty sure i have that symbolic link being created for 2013
[16:37:25] <BobFrankly> well we have an understanding with the few people that have enormous files: use O365 website
[16:37:35] <tabularasa> heh
[16:38:14] <BobFrankly> 'why did my connection die?' "Because you used onenote and filled up the write cache."
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[16:38:42] <tabularasa> lol
[16:38:47] <tabularasa> yeah, you should be able to get the symlink to work
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[16:39:08] <BobFrankly> when I get to rebuilding on server 2016, I'll pick up that torch again
[16:39:44] <BobFrankly> I think there's a glitch between the XS network driver and PVS 7.12
[16:39:58] <BobFrankly> or maybe between the two when working on my dell hardware
[16:40:33] <BobFrankly> the one time I got a 2016 PVS image to boot was the time I forgot to install the XS toolstack
[16:41:24] <natesd858> Is the "Visible" flag for XenApp 7.6 applications for hiding applications without limiting visibility?
[16:45:00] <David62277> BobFrankly it works in my environment
[16:45:21] <BobFrankly> David62277: which server OS?
[16:45:26] <BobFrankly> I'm still in 2008R2
[16:45:26] <David62277> Windows 7
[16:45:51] <BobFrankly> same generation. hmmm
[16:46:08] <David62277> i redirect %localappdata%\Microsoft\OneNote to %homeshare%\VDIPaths\OneNote
[16:51:04] <natesd858> PowerShell is awesome
[16:51:25] <BobFrankly> that it is
[16:53:52] <SuicideJ4ck> so... Local Host Cache in XD 7.12 is just a backup copy of the SQL database on the DDCs?
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[16:55:04] <tabularasa> i don't think its sql though
[16:56:59] <tabularasa> anyone running the Skype Web Plugin inside of XenApp?
[16:58:11] <Biny> i have the hdx for lync whatever, but that's about it
[16:58:12] <SuicideJ4ck> you mean the cache database or the syncing of the cached database?
[16:58:15] <natesd858> isnt LHC in 7.12 the compact sql database, same as WEM uses
[16:58:16] <Biny> our skype doesn't really want to work either
[16:58:39] <Biny> usually have one sided video, no audio, etc. - fun stuff like that
[16:59:56] <tabularasa> just the web plugin.. its a POS
[17:00:03] <tabularasa> SuicideJ4ck: the cache database
[17:00:14] <tabularasa> it's an appdata local thing, and it requires admin privs to install
[17:00:18] <tabularasa> was just wondering if anyone hacked it yet
[17:02:49] <SuicideJ4ck> tabularasa: I believe that it's M$ SQL Server Express that's installed on the delivery controllers
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[17:03:53] <tabularasa> yes, but on the XD boxes is what i'm saying
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[17:14:41] <SuicideJ4ck> Ah.. Ok, So Xendesktop 7.12 runs 2 brokers on a single server? A primary that communicates with the main SQL server and a HA broker that communicates with the local cached SQL DB?
[17:15:53] <tabularasa> yes, correct
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[17:17:03] <tabularasa> honestly, i'm not sure if the LHC IS sql or not...
[17:17:16] <tabularasa> i can't find any documentation to confirm/deny that
[17:17:53] <tabularasa> yeah, i was looking over the Summit slides
[17:18:19] <tabularasa> "All (synchronised) data is stored in a Microsoft SQL Server Express (LocalDB) database, "
[17:18:21] <tabularasa> ok, fair enough
[17:18:31] <natesd858> :D
[17:18:38] <natesd858> happy?
[17:18:47] <natesd858> Bas is essentially edocs right?
[17:18:47] <tabularasa> :)
[17:18:51] <tabularasa> yup
[17:19:54] <tabularasa> uncon: 51.26 ok?
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[17:28:11] <SuicideJ4ck> nice. thanks! Trying to decide between 7.11 and 7.12 for my next upgrade.
[17:29:06] <uncon> tabularasa: well, so far. sure.
[17:29:45] <uncon> (Release Date: Feb 2, 2017)
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[17:38:59] <eightzerofivekc_> I went balls deep to 7.12
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[17:39:17] <SuicideJ4ck> We run VDI pooled desktops and I just read this "Local Host Cache is supported for server-hosted applications and desktops, and static (assigned) desktops; it is not supported for pooled VDI desktops (created by MCS or PVS)."
[17:40:01] <SuicideJ4ck> looks like we won't be implementing that...
[17:40:56] <SuicideJ4ck> eightzerofivekc_: how long ago?
[17:54:17] <eightzerofivekc_> Umm 1 week ago
[17:54:22] <eightzerofivekc_> Nightmare ish
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[18:29:13] <ello_govna> Anyone ever see XD 7+ fail to pull a dhcp lease on a single NIC? vdisk streaming pulls an address fine, client network doesn't. I can see that DHCP is being offered to the client on the affected interface via the PXEChecker.
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[19:11:20] <David62277> BobFrankly - are you using WEM?
[19:13:11] <David62277> ello_govna - can you watch the console? do you see the pvs target grab an ip?
[19:14:07] <David62277> your pvs server on a different subnet than your vdas?
[19:14:27] <|Atum|> ] ello_govna Anyone ever see7+ fail to pull a dhcp lease on a single NIC? vdisk streaming pulls an address fine, client network doesn't. I can see that DHCP is being offered to the client on the affected interface via the PXEChecker. <-- duplicate IP request sometimes. You clear the DHCP address from reg before shutdown of maint.
[19:14:29] <|Atum|> will link a reg in a sec
[19:15:38] <David62277> |Atum| ive read that but never seen that problem
[19:15:42] <BobFrankly> David62277: yes on WEM
[19:15:48] <natesd858> WEM is awesome
[19:15:52] <natesd858> need templates
[19:15:55] <BobFrankly> but CPU and Memory only
[19:16:08] <natesd858> I'm playing with UPM with mixed results
[19:16:21] <natesd858> I borked my profiles and am stuck with temp profiles
[19:16:22] <natesd858> lol
[19:16:22] <David62277> Ok, then I can walk you through creating a symbolic link for the OneNote folder
[19:16:55] <natesd858> david you use WEM for managing application icons on desktops?
[19:16:57] <David62277> you have rights to edit gpo on your VDAs?
[19:17:02] <David62277> yes
[19:17:03] <BobFrankly> David62277: it's a dangerous time to be making changes to production
[19:17:11] <BobFrankly> thanks for the offer though
[19:17:23] <natesd858> you dont have test WEM?
[19:17:47] <David62277> BobFrankly - create a new configured user - make it your test user, and assign the file operations to him only
[19:18:01] <David62277> then you can test the symbolic links
[19:18:12] <David62277> also you'll need rights to create symbolic links in gpo
[19:18:16] <BobFrankly> not currently, and I haven't messed with WEM enough to trust it to color within the lines yet :P
[19:18:22] <natesd858> same
[19:18:36] <David62277> i replaced my 300+ line powershell logon script with it
[19:18:47] <natesd858> need ron to host another webinar now that I've been able to play a little bit
[19:19:01] <BobFrankly> David62277: It's more of a 'we're a K-12 heading into testing time, and I like my job' situation
[19:19:31] <BobFrankly> hence why I'm working on whole new environment stuff
[19:19:36] <BobFrankly> or trying to anyhow
[19:19:37] <ello_govna> David62277: I can see pvs target grab IP, and boot fine. It's just that once the vm is booted, the client network doesn't use the IP it's issued on that network. PVS has a nic on both the vdisk streaming network, and the clients network.
[19:20:03] <BobFrankly> noted, thanks
[19:20:16] <BobFrankly> I'll likely incorporate that into my new environment
[19:20:46] <ello_govna> |Atum|: Thanks, I'll try these.
[19:20:49] <David62277> ello_govna might be the stuff |Atum| posted above then. I've never run into that myself though
[19:21:28] <BobFrankly> ello_govna: are you using reserved DHCP?
[19:22:01] <ello_govna> BobFrankly: Yes, but not for the affected clients.
[19:22:22] <BobFrankly> our PVS farm was running out of DHCP IP's because pxe got an ip, and then the PVS client got another one
[19:22:32] <BobFrankly> reserved solved that for us
[19:22:58] <BobFrankly> not sure if that's what you're running into, but throwing it on the pile just the same :P
[19:23:10] <ello_govna> BobFrankly: I tried setting a reservation but it didn't make a difference for my test client unfortunately.
[19:24:05] <ello_govna> I think Atum is onto something since this seems to be limited to a single image, and the master doesn't seem to be affected.
[19:24:11] <BobFrankly> ah
[19:24:23] <BobFrankly> well Atum usually is on something. I mean on to something
[19:24:29] <BobFrankly> ;P
[19:25:01] <ello_govna> Fingers crossed. Fundamental stuff like dhcp going sideways can be fun to try to sort out.
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[20:03:20] <tabularasa> uncon: thanks!
[20:03:41] <ello_govna> |Atum|: You're the best. Looks like the reg keys did the trick. Thank you.
[20:05:02] <tabularasa> that's the citrixirc community blog
[20:05:46] <nyner> ok, i'm wondering if David62277 is the author of that post
[20:05:54] <nyner> "Posted by David Ott at 8:08 pm"
[20:06:00] <tabularasa> yes, that's him
[20:07:41] <|Atum|> ello_govna: glad to hear it. Another option is to turn up/on "Conflict detection" on dhcp server. Generally I set this to 1 anyway
[20:07:54] <|Atum|> test/vet that - it slows down dhcp
[20:10:32] <ello_govna> I did set it to 1, but that didn't seem to make a difference.
[20:10:34] <tabularasa> hardly though..
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[21:36:04] <Snam> Hi
[21:44:47] <tabularasa> howdy
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[22:12:23] <Biny> grr, wrote a script to parse some logs in perl, so i could utilize sendxmpp which is in perl, and its broken and won't connect to my openfire server (script used to work, should have tested it first) :\
[22:13:29] <tabularasa> sucks
[22:13:38] <tabularasa> just ran into the same thing with my R07 labtech script
[22:15:22] <Biny> some non-conformed-SASL auth setting with an old library
[22:15:34] <Biny> though it used to work, so thinking something openfire updated. grr
[22:29:31] <Biny> grr, loaded up old server and it works fine there @_@
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[22:39:22] <Snam> That sucks
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