[00:19:09] <natesd858> Anyone play with the workspace iot hub?
[00:23:05] <RSRevord> natesd858: think you have to work with your rep to get that turned up
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[01:47:48] <ccs007> does anyone know if or when the Linux VDA will support FAS?
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[13:28:09] <ben__> hey guys... got a really sluggish XenApp 7.8 environment- in particular, Studio runs like crap
[13:29:00] <ben__> Trying to open Policy Modelling at the moment, gave it about 10 minutes, still nothing. Usually checking application settings takes about 5 minutes- click, wait, click, wait
[13:29:06] <ben__> any tips for getting it a bit snappier?
[13:30:26] <NoxiousPloK> heh ouch, good luck
[13:42:03] <ben__> haha thanks
[13:42:14] <ben__> not much luck so far though
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[14:13:59] <zax1> good morning
[14:15:28] <zax1> so i am getting "Http/1.1 Service Unavailable" error on netscaler 10.0 and WI 5.4 , dont think anything was changed, i can hit call back from WI, and WI from cag, any ideas ?
[14:21:22] <ben__> callback definitely going to the internal address?
[14:22:51] <zax1> call back is pointing to publich FQDN
[14:23:35] <zax1> but has a hostname so resolving to an internal address
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[14:27:40] <zax1> any one ?
[14:33:12] <ben__> ok- verified that it's going back to that one? netstat -an showing it's going to the right spot?
[14:34:39] <ben__> checked for typos on the scaler config?
[14:36:28] <ben__> event logs on the WIs giving any clues? load balanced WIs or just one?
[14:38:42] <zax1> one WI, no typos that i can see going back to the right NS and right vip, not config changes that i know of
[14:39:03] <zax1> was wondering if i can restart the httpd service on the ns
[14:39:13] <zax1> but not sure if that just for the wi on the ns
[14:39:31] <ben__> is the netscaler pointing at the FQDN or IP address of the WI?
[14:40:02] <ben__> if FQDN, can the scaler see your internal DNS servers to translate FQDN to IP?
[14:44:44] <zax1> fqdn
[14:45:03] <zax1> pinging the fqdn from the ns console , resolve and pings
[14:45:41] <zax1> the wi, is also a xenapp, it has some erros about xenapp servers busy, but nothing out of the ordinary, and not constant
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[14:46:31] <zax1> on the ns dashboard i can see the ldap vservers were down- but that was once about 2 hours
[14:46:43] <zax1> the ldap monitors are showing green
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[14:52:42] <ben__> got a backup of the nsconfig to compare?
[15:01:52] <ben__> cert still good?
[15:02:11] <ben__> I don't think a cert expriry would do that, but another thing to rule out I guess
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[15:22:09] <tabularasa> morning peeps
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[16:25:13] <WSCTX> Anyone know of a way to get Wyse Device Manager software without dealing with Dell's sales pitch? I just need the Workgroup edition
[16:27:08] <|Atum|> strange, importing a pfx receiving "crl refrresh disabled" on ns. wonder whats different from the other 7 I imported xD
[16:27:23] <|Atum|> WSCTX: buy igel :p
[16:28:11] <WSCTX> I WISH
[16:28:43] <WSCTX> I actually tried to go that route when I got here, but I was apparently about 6 months late to the game
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[16:35:13] <citrixslackbot1> <marvinn> Let me check WSCTX
[16:44:01] <WSCTX> Thanks!
[16:55:31] <Splatone> tabularasa: Morning.
[16:55:34] <tabularasa> yo
[16:55:52] <Splatone> You messing with unidesk at all?
[16:56:58] <tabularasa> yes, i'm at the "creating OS Layer" section
[16:57:29] <Splatone> With the network share did you make that local or domain. I could not get it to pass the test with a domain account.
[16:57:44] <tabularasa> domain account
[17:02:05] <David62277_> im not going to mess with unidesk until citrix rolls it out as part of their platform
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[17:03:02] <tabularasa> i just want to understand how it works more before then
[17:03:29] <David62277> the whole thing may change by then... sounds like they are doing some integrations into pvs
[17:03:50] <tabularasa> the whole thing? unlikely.
[17:05:10] <David62277> well with norskale it seemed like they slapped their name on it and then sent it out... looks like there is a lot more dev work going on for unidesk
[17:05:33] <|Atum|> FYI: crl refresh disabled = "\" in passphrase for pfx
[17:05:57] <tabularasa> David62277: true
[17:06:32] <David62277> never ever ever use funky characters for the password of a pfx
[17:06:53] <David62277> just use the tried and true... Password1 :P
[17:07:59] <tabularasa> haha
[17:08:35] <|Atum|> well technically it wasnt \
[17:08:38] <|Atum|> but it was a aspecial char
[17:08:45] <|Atum|> probably ` tbh
[17:09:50] <tabularasa> i use ! in them all the time, no issues
[17:12:58] <natesd858> norskale/wem gives instant benefits to entitled customers though
[17:13:29] <natesd858> I want Unidesk integration with MCS :x
[17:13:36] <natesd858> on Acropolis
[17:13:55] <|Atum|> times are a-changin!
[17:14:02] <|Atum|> "I want...with MCS"
[17:14:07] <|Atum|> words not fathomed 5 years ago :D
[17:14:19] <natesd858> lol
[17:14:36] <natesd858> too true
[17:16:27] <natesd858> how much effort is it to create a vanilla mandatory profile?
[17:18:43] <tabularasa> not much
[17:18:50] <tabularasa> 20 minutes
[17:19:26] <tabularasa> o, another dumb question (or lack of documentation). If NetScaler Gateway is "enabled" in Citrix Cloud, and i login to the SToreFront URL... is it just working? It's very unclear....
[17:19:34] <tabularasa> see if anyone in here knows
[17:20:12] <BobFrankly> if you're logging into the storefront server's dns, you're bypassing the NS
[17:20:22] <BobFrankly> at least, you are in my setup
[17:20:43] <tabularasa> and this is where it's unclear.. there's nothing to configure.. it's just a "enable/disable"
[17:21:02] <tabularasa> i see no other URLs to connect to
[17:21:25] <BobFrankly> I don't believe in clouds
[17:21:49] <tabularasa> OH!
[17:22:24] <tabularasa> We just had a vendor tell us that not only do they not support the cloud, but if the app "has any apperance" of running in the cloud, it will also be unsupported (read Local App Access) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[17:22:53] <BobFrankly> ...sounds like a mom and pop shop
[17:23:42] <tabularasa> yes, it basically is..
[17:25:21] <BobFrankly> we've got a couple of those. They are a reliable source of facepalms
[17:29:02] <natesd858> have you guys played with the workspace iot hub?
[17:29:34] <BobFrankly> have not
[17:31:39] <natesd858> they're redoing conference rooms and we get a 55" TV for the lab
[17:31:49] <natesd858> that hub looks like fun with a TV
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[18:00:22] <tabularasa> any of you guys have a standing desk?
[18:00:53] <natesd858> I had a sit and stand with an articulating arm
[18:00:57] <natesd858> great for the lower back
[18:01:02] <BobFrankly> some of the guys here have those 'elevators' for sitting and standing
[18:01:59] <tabularasa> natesd858: had?
[18:02:17] <tabularasa> BobFrankly: yeah, i'm looking for real world advice here. i'm looking for one
[18:03:25] <Splatone> tabularasa: for home or work?
[18:03:47] <BobFrankly> tabularasa: it's a mixed bag, one person stopped using it over thier arms and elbows, but to be fair, those problems were pre-existing
[18:04:07] <BobFrankly> one person here is back and forth on it frequently, the rest I most frequently see sitting
[18:04:30] <BobFrankly> having a good memory foam matt for standing seems to help as well
[18:04:46] <BobFrankly> ^ All second hand observations
[18:06:02] <tabularasa> Splatone: for work
[18:06:08] <tabularasa> a sit/stand convertable.
[18:06:25] <tabularasa> i see some ones that look good, but was hopiong to get more input
[18:08:20] <David62277> PVS > MCS
[18:09:39] <tabularasa> heh
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[18:16:36] <Biny> tabularasa: we ordered 2 so far that are actually really cheap, they work good
[18:19:19] <tabularasa> model?
[18:22:47] <Biny> sorry got interrupted
[18:22:49] <Biny> finding link
[18:23:28] <Biny> the white one doesn't scratch as easily as the other one
[18:23:44] <Biny> but for $299+shipping they are a helluva deal compared to what our local office supply company wanted ($1k+)
[18:26:17] <Biny> the wood with black finish seems to scratch just from keyboards
[18:26:22] <Biny> white one may scratch but can't see them
[18:29:09] <tabularasa> looking
[18:30:21] <tabularasa> goes goes up and down? hard to tell from the pictures
[18:30:37] <Biny> yeah it has a motor
[18:30:51] <Biny> with presets you can set for heights
[18:31:32] <tabularasa> neat, thanks!
[18:31:53] <Biny> yeah our local office store wanted $1k+ for one without a motor, found those and they are great
[18:42:25] <tabularasa> nice nice
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[19:23:36] <natesd858> I have one with an articulating arm, which is fine for light typers but not great if you're a heavy typer
[19:23:48] <natesd858> I moved to a new office and am too lazy to move the thing over with me
[19:23:52] <natesd858> thus had
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[19:24:49] <natesd858> lol
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[20:02:48] <tabularasa> yeah, i saw a nice ergotron one too
[20:03:16] <tabularasa> that's the exact model i found.. haha
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[20:34:22] <tabularasa> #offtopic - I wish Xbox would hurry up and release their update so I can have some Atmos.
[20:35:09] <Moxified> cool, didn't know they were doing that. Good Atmos AVR's are still pretty pricey aren't they?
[20:35:31] <Brett_> question for you guys on MCS
[20:35:41] <Brett_> Creating a small pool of 3 2012r2 servers
[20:35:46] <Brett_> with MC
[20:35:48] <Brett_> MCS
[20:36:00] <Brett_> Should I use MAK or KMS licensing?
[20:36:13] <Brett_> I think MAK for Office on MCS is not supported
[20:36:24] <Brett_> but what of Windows. KMS?
[20:36:30] <Moxified> I would use KMS
[20:36:31] <Brett_> What are the KMS minimums for 2012r2?
[20:36:53] <BobFrankly> Brett: even if it works, the moment you move the VM to a slightly different hardware set, you'll be kicking yourself for not doing KMS
[20:36:58] <Brett_> That's what I was thinking . But wasn't sure what the activation minimums were for 2012r2 or Office
[20:37:04] <Brett_> Only spinning up a few servers
[20:37:19] <BobFrankly> brett: 5 for server OS IIRC
[20:37:19] <tabularasa> KMS, yes
[20:37:22] <Moxified> Probably still 25ish I would jsut create a bunch, boot them one at a time and delte the ones you don't need.
[20:37:25] <BobFrankly> 25 for office
[20:37:32] <tabularasa> Moxified: i picked up a low-mid range Denon for $500
[20:37:38] <tabularasa> and i already have ceiling speakers.. so..
[20:37:39] <Brett_> So how do I get Office to activate with KMS if I only have 3 servers?
[20:37:56] <BobFrankly> brett: do you have other office installs in the company?
[20:38:15] <Brett_> No
[20:38:15] <Moxified> It's easy to create all 25 with mcs. Just only boot them one at a time and shut them down after they activate.
[20:39:03] <AnotherCTXadm> I just migrated from WI to SF using NS LB for SF 3.8. For someone reason when I configure Receiver I have to specify full url to config.xml file. USing just fqdn of SF does not automatically resolves to correct url to config.xml. Any ideas?
[20:39:10] <Moxified> tabularasa: I figure I would wait a while. I have a drop ceiling in my theater so I can add them anytime. Just last I looked at AVR's with my kind of wattage (100+ /channel) they were too much still.
[20:39:43] <tabularasa> yeah, it's only midrange. I have a super nice Marantz, but i wanted to play.. :)
[20:39:49] <Moxified> nice
[20:39:59] <Moxified> I hear great things over on avsforum
[20:40:02] <tabularasa> watts are not a good focal point. THD is where you want to look for something quality
[20:40:11] <tabularasa> well, if you know avsforum, you probably have something good. :D
[20:40:13] <Moxified> oh I get that
[20:40:35] <tabularasa> yeah, i just got the S920W. nothing special, but not a POS.
[20:40:37] <Moxified> lol, I have a 5 yo onkyo... It's decent but not "good".
[20:40:58] <BobFrankly> my onkyo is older then that
[20:41:04] <BobFrankly> and it was a HTIB
[20:41:11] <Moxified> ewwww
[20:41:11] <tabularasa> onkyo used to be good.. they are kind of crap now
[20:41:30] <tabularasa> i had my original onkyo original dolby surroud, for 12 years
[20:41:31] <Biny> AnotherCTXadm: mine does that too.
[20:41:35] <Moxified> I figured I would upgrade to something higher up when I go atmos
[20:41:48] <tabularasa> AnotherCTXadm: same with mine
[20:41:57] <tabularasa> Moxified: i have a basement.. i'll get the GOOD one then..
[20:42:02] <tabularasa> I want an Oppo though..
[20:42:11] <Moxified> lol
[20:42:11] <tabularasa> Oppo player.. not receiver..
[20:42:39] <Moxified> they make great stuff
[20:42:46] <tabularasa> Oppo is amazing..
[20:42:55] <Moxified> ingly expensive
[20:43:00] <tabularasa> true dat
[20:43:05] <tabularasa> thats why i have xboxs now. haha
[20:43:10] <Moxified> yerp
[20:43:28] <Moxified> the s is supposedly the best bang for buck if you do 4k
[20:43:47] <Moxified> I can't justify the 10k for the 4k version of my projector yet :(
[20:43:55] * BobFrankly spent .2k on his onkyo
[20:44:29] <Moxified> $200?
[20:44:51] <BobFrankly> yeah, caught it on a sale
[20:45:05] <BobFrankly> wait...man that was 11 years ago
[20:45:08] <Moxified> :) I spent more than $200 on acoustical treatments.
[20:45:11] <tabularasa> heh
[20:45:21] <BobFrankly> thing still running strong
[20:45:25] <tabularasa> yeah, i generally spend at least a grand on a nice receiver... not bad considering they last 10 years
[20:45:49] <BobFrankly> my receiver gets used everyday
[20:45:56] <tabularasa> that too
[20:46:11] <BobFrankly> can't let our parrot sit in a quiet house, she'd go nuts and pull her feathers out XD
[20:47:43] <Biny> and frankly, bob, that's nuts.
[20:47:52] <tabularasa> heh
[20:48:23] <BobFrankly> I know tabularasa's eye started twitching there
[20:50:30] <tabularasa> also helped i had $250 in best buy bucks
[20:51:51] <tabularasa> Moxified: bang for the buck it's pretty good.. 90watts/channel @ .08% THD
[20:52:04] <tabularasa> 8 ohms, obvy..
[20:52:16] <Moxified> that's not bad. Probably pretty close to my current AVR.
[20:53:20] <tabularasa> My Marantz is 100@.08
[20:53:24] <Moxified> mine is 100w .08%
[20:53:26] <tabularasa> so yeah... for $500... wow..
[20:53:35] <uncon> ... i got a new tv
[20:53:39] <tabularasa> what kind?
[20:53:43] <Moxified> and it' 9.4.*?
[20:53:58] <uncon> Samsung 8 Series
[20:54:08] <tabularasa> nice! i got a js8500 and i fucking love it
[20:54:12] <uncon> 65" SUHD (4k, HDR)
[20:54:17] <Moxified> wait, it's 7.*.4 I think how they put it.
[20:54:21] <tabularasa> that may be the same tv..... uncon..
[20:54:30] <tabularasa> 7.*.4 ?
[20:54:53] <Moxified> like 7.2.4 for your atmos. Most are probably 2 lfe now
[20:55:12] <tabularasa> yeah, it's 7.2
[20:55:16] <tabularasa> i only have 5.1... heh
[20:55:24] <tabularasa> plus 2 ceiling speakers
[20:55:32] <tabularasa> so 5.1.2
[20:55:33] <Moxified> I upgraded my room to 7 from 5 a year ago. Wish I hadn't.
[20:55:40] <uncon> i only have 5.1, 4 ceiling
[20:55:40] <tabularasa> why?
[20:55:58] <tabularasa> uncon: nice. i had 2 ceiling for rears, but now they are atmos. :)
[20:56:16] <tabularasa> the marantz supports dual fronts, so i'm just taking my smaller fronts and making them rears
[20:56:20] <Moxified> very little comes out of the rear 2. I have two rows so the side surrounds have most of the info and it is just in front of the back row
[20:56:27] <uncon> i got teh atmos in my receiver, i need some speakers
[20:56:28] <tabularasa> uncon: nice.. yeah, mine is the js8500, and it's fucking amazing
[20:56:39] <uncon> yeah, i loving it
[20:56:45] <tabularasa> that looks like the model that replaced mine
[20:57:02] <tabularasa> Sigh.. and cheaper than i paid for mine, of course..
[20:57:20] <uncon> as is the natural order
[20:57:24] <Moxified> thus why I'm waiting on 4k and atmos
[20:58:09] * BobFrankly looks fondly at his 1K LG
[20:59:07] <uncon> FHD is so... blocky (:
[20:59:42] <Moxified> depends on how close and how big the screen is
[20:59:44] <BobFrankly> depends on screen size and viewing distance :P
[20:59:59] <Moxified> heh
[21:00:10] <BobFrankly> 48 and 10 feet
[21:00:22] <Moxified> boarderline
[21:00:48] <BobFrankly> clean enough for my eyes seeing as I stare at a computer screen all day
[21:01:18] <uncon> hopefully HiDPI!
[21:02:06] <Moxified> at 10 feet, looks like you can have around a 70" 1080 screen before your eyes have enough resolution to see the difference.
[21:02:33] <AnotherCTXadm> really? With my WI 5.4 I could just configure receiver using base url and it would fill in the rest automagically
[21:03:14] <uncon> Moxified: you're not calculating for placebo...
[21:03:28] <Moxified> can't help people who don't help themselves :)
[21:04:45] <Moxified> Will say though, they are building and selling the 1080's as econo now. So the 4k even displaying 1080 are "better" in that they typically are shipping with better tech like active localized backlight control etc.
[21:05:05] <BobFrankly> ^
[21:05:53] <Moxified> I just like to remind people that 1080 is literally better than they need in 99% of all setups from a resolution standpoint.
[21:06:32] <BobFrankly> pixel count isn't the only drastic improvement in displays since the introduction of HD
[21:07:19] <Moxified> right and that's the issue, those improvements aren't getting put in the 1080's anymore.
[21:07:37] <BobFrankly> I musta purchased on the line then
[21:08:00] <BobFrankly> or not...time seems to cram together more as I age
[21:08:36] <BobFrankly> 'I just got my TV last year' turns into 'was that really 4 years ago?' when I think about it
[21:08:44] <Moxified> HA
[21:09:39] <Moxified> what I don't understand is why in all of these years, there is still no quality web or linux based xencenter
[21:10:00] <BobFrankly> or xenserver for that matter
[21:11:38] <Moxified> I I know there is the xen orchestra but.. lame
[21:12:56] * BobFrankly is digging through making SCOM management packs
[21:14:28] <Biny> yay microsoft audit results are back
[21:15:20] <BobFrankly> are you making a new budget named 'Ben Dover' ?
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[21:17:05] <tabularasa> AnotherCTXadm: yes, it's different than WI
[21:17:33] <Moxified> our M$ budget actually went down with their changes this year. Not much but still.. was a nice surprise.
[21:18:20] <AnotherCTXadm> well that's a step backwards. But when I was testing this with single SF in the lab, not only it worked. Whole Citrix Receiver looked similar to my Web Receiver, customizations and all...
[21:18:52] <AnotherCTXadm> now its just generic green bubble when doing to through NS LB vserver
[21:21:54] <tabularasa> Splatone: you around?
[21:25:56] <AnotherCTXadm> aha! fixed it
[21:26:30] <AnotherCTXadm> tabularasa: Biny: all I had to do is unhide it in SF console
[21:27:42] <AnotherCTXadm> now I can add using base url or email address
[21:27:48] <Biny> ah
[21:28:06] <tabularasa> maybe i misunderstood the problem. what?
[21:28:31] <Biny> storefront config deployed to delivery group, if using base url, fails to find /config.xml
[21:28:38] <Biny> (if storefront is hidden)
[21:29:01] <Biny> so you'd have to specify fqdn and full path to PNAgent/Config.xml vs. pointing it at TLD
[21:29:26] <AnotherCTXadm> now if I can only fix my email registration from other domains. I have about 80+ email domains....
[21:29:51] <AnotherCTXadm> probably need to configure reverse lookup with same SRV record
[21:32:12] <AnotherCTXadm> or maybe similar SRV record for each domain
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[21:42:00] <esv> hey folks, I am running a citrix receiver, supposedly built on 12/2016 using a win10 client, but the desktop session keeps freezing until I type the tab key.. any clues?
[21:42:10] <esv> have an i7 with 16GB ram.
[21:43:52] <BobFrankly> esv: is your desktop managed by your employer?
[21:46:34] <esv> nope
[21:46:54] <AnotherCTXadm> what Receiver version?
[21:48:44] <AnotherCTXadm> esv: can you confirm you receiver version?
[21:48:57] <esv> trying to get it
[21:53:13] <esv> ok, I give up. how can I find it?
[21:58:42] <esv> 4.6.014932
[21:59:14] <BobFrankly> I think it's best practice to exclude some of the install path from AV scanning
[21:59:33] <BobFrankly> someone else can verify that, but it may be a contributing factor
[22:06:10] <r0vert> hey guys, quick question. Anyone familar with a XenApp 6.5 issue where ica-tcp listeners take upwards of 20 minutes after reboot to start accepting connections?
[22:07:15] <AnotherCTXadm> esv: try finding 4.2.100 version and test with that
[22:08:37] <esv> ok
[22:08:46] <tabularasa> www.gallier.us/citrix
[22:09:22] <tabularasa> r0vert: i've not seen that...
[22:09:26] <tabularasa> sounds like AV...
[22:09:41] <AnotherCTXadm> ha! tabularasa, you are the man. That one going to my favorites
[22:10:02] <tabularasa> :D
[22:10:25] <tabularasa> fast and easy access to receiver versions, all the way back to 12.1.44.. haha
[22:10:35] <tabularasa> i don't have 3.0 on there though..
[22:11:31] <AnotherCTXadm> I think everyone here will forgive you for that
[22:12:27] <tabularasa> :)
[22:19:48] <r0vert> tabularasa: Thanks, we believe it started happening with R07. But, no one really took notice to it before.
[22:21:20] <tabularasa> i have too much i'm playing with right now. it's awesome
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[22:52:38] <esv> thanks
[22:53:51] <tabularasa> np
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[23:58:25] <paradizelost> anyone know off-hand if you can publish an app from a machine in remote-pc mode?
[23:58:32] <paradizelost> without needing RDS cal's
[23:59:22] <paradizelost> xd 7.12