November 26, 2014 
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November 26, 2014 [00:03:17] *** MartynKeigher has quit IRC[00:26:38] <|Atum|> troubling. just saw an email in my gmail that didnt arrive via autofwd in outlook.com and isnt i junkmail[00:26:48] <|Atum|> strange because other emails arrived just fine[00:26:55] <|Atum|> and it wasnt a spammy one[00:34:39] *** tattedup has quit IRC[00:50:01] *** gaffahiro has quit IRC[00:54:32] *** mesamoo has quit IRC[01:02:03] *** BobFrankly has quit IRC[01:10:22] *** toknow has joined #Citrix[01:10:34] <toknow> Hi[01:11:39] <toknow> i want to know if within XENAPP 6.5 it is possible to give admin a snappin of APPCENTER via MMC on admin PCs[01:11:57] <SYS_NOOB> yip[01:12:49] <toknow> how to do that via APP publication ...?[01:15:52] <SYS_NOOB> grab the xenappmx.msi from the installation media , should be under administration\delivery services console\setup if i remember correctly[01:17:50] <SYS_NOOB> also there is a patch you have to install http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX132713[01:32:47] *** xSnakeDoctor has quit IRC[01:57:28] *** Synthead has quit IRC[02:03:30] <toknow> Fine it is working ... i appreciate your help SYS-NOOB[02:03:52] *** bwalk8130 has quit IRC[02:09:21] *** calum_ has joined #Citrix[02:10:40] *** calum_ has quit IRC[02:19:54] *** _hardlock has joined #Citrix[02:22:06] *** hardlock has quit IRC[02:34:04] <toknow> Hi[02:36:31] <toknow> looking for GPOs or Scripts to remove powershell Server manager and somes applications from starts menu if you have a GPO model or link for Xenapp Server it will help...[02:47:37] *** MartynKeigher has joined #Citrix[02:52:50] *** tattedup has joined #Citrix[03:20:19] *** dh64 has joined #Citrix[03:20:34] *** calum_ has joined #Citrix[03:20:49] *** calum_ has quit IRC[03:54:28] *** toknow has quit IRC[04:57:07] *** SYS_NOOB has quit IRC[05:01:53] *** dh64 has quit IRC[05:02:18] *** dh64 has joined #Citrix[05:07:17] *** dh64 has quit IRC[05:50:49] *** MartynKeigher has quit IRC[05:56:50] *** siddharthv_away is now known as siddharthv[07:26:35] *** SpideR^ has joined #Citrix[08:01:27] *** SpideR^^ has joined #Citrix[08:02:51] *** SpideR^ has quit IRC[08:03:15] *** SpideR^^ has quit IRC[08:03:20] *** SpideR^ has joined #Citrix[08:03:54] *** SpideR^^ has joined #Citrix[08:25:11] *** SpideR^^ has quit IRC[08:30:26] *** EAGUIRREV has joined #Citrix[08:31:03] <EAGUIRREV> Good Morning, Any one with XenServer knowledge awake?[09:02:18] *** chrisp1115 has joined #Citrix[09:09:16] *** kiste has joined #Citrix[09:12:57] *** EAGUIRREV has quit IRC[09:20:10] *** klick_ has joined #Citrix[09:33:22] *** Lucasje has joined #Citrix[10:05:21] *** amti has joined #Citrix[10:10:16] *** meyou has joined #Citrix[10:12:12] <meyou> how can i set the gateway for a VIP? I am able to ping/access it only locally from the public subnet it belongs to. the default gateway for the server is set to the gateway i'd like the VIP to use but it still only pings locally[11:04:17] *** paradizelost has quit IRC[11:16:51] *** paradizelost has joined #Citrix[11:29:38] *** Zax1 has joined #Citrix[11:29:50] <Zax1> does any one know how to roam the pinned start menu items ?[11:51:05] *** klick_ has quit IRC[12:14:13] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[12:19:35] *** klick_ has joined #Citrix[12:31:42] *** Bsony has joined #Citrix[12:32:09] *** GentileBen has joined #Citrix[12:40:13] <Zax1> you guys still snozzing ?[12:40:18] <Zax1> snoozing even[12:40:55] <Zax1> any recomendatins for VOiP on XA[12:41:05] <Zax1> need to install LYNC on a XA6.0 farm[13:03:47] *** rr has joined #Citrix[13:20:36] *** siddharthv is now known as siddharthv_away[13:39:23] *** r0vert has joined #Citrix[13:47:05] *** wmp has joined #Citrix[13:47:25] <wmp> hello, i have problem with xe sr-create[13:47:38] <wmp> i have this error: The SR operation cannot be performed because a device underlying the SR is in use by the host.[13:48:51] <wmp> i trying execute: xe sr-create device-config:device="/dev/drbd1" name-label="DRBD-SR1" type=lv[13:48:59] <wmp> i trying execute: xe sr-create device-config:device="/dev/drbd1" name-label="DRBD-SR1" type=lvm[13:53:07] *** r0vert has quit IRC[13:53:21] <nikade> thats weird[13:53:42] <nikade> what does "xe sr-list --multiple" show you?[13:53:56] <nikade> and is /dev/drdb1 a symlinkt?[13:53:59] <nikade> symlink*[13:54:21] *** r0vert has joined #Citrix[13:58:46] <wmp> nikade: thanks for reply, this is output: http://paste.kde.org/pm9foxwyc[14:07:23] <nikade> was this device attached earlier?[14:07:27] <nikade> I guess its blank[14:07:40] <nikade> or did you create a primary or logical drive of the /dev/drdb ?[14:07:47] <nikade> i mean to create /dev/drdb1[14:10:35] <wmp> nikade: https://github.com/locatrix/xs-pacemaker - i doing this[14:14:58] <nikade> that looks very interesting[14:15:08] <nikade> right now we're snapshoting all our vm's every night to a backup SAN[14:15:26] <nikade> so that we can import them at another xenserver-pool in another datacenter incase of a disaster[14:15:53] <wmp> nikade: lvmsync? :D[14:23:44] <nikade> we're trying not to modify xenserver since we have support[14:23:57] <nikade> and if we run into problems with a modified xenserver there wont be any help comming from citrix[14:24:06] <nikade> so we'll have to build a HA-SAN[14:24:24] <wmp> ok, i understand[14:39:19] *** KrayJay has joined #Citrix[14:39:48] <KrayJay> good morning[14:41:08] <KrayJay> 2 out of 6 servers in my pool see the storage repository multipathing (2 out of 2 paths active) while the rest only see same repository as 1 of 1 path active[14:41:36] <KrayJay> what is the best way to get them all on the same page for 2 of 2 paths active[14:41:37] <KrayJay> ?[14:45:26] *** MartynKeigher has joined #Citrix[15:16:06] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[15:17:52] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[15:18:32] *** rr has quit IRC[15:19:29] *** hspcd has joined #Citrix[15:19:50] *** bookem88 has joined #Citrix[15:38:55] <rsrevord> morning[15:40:34] <johnelse> KrayJay: I don't know much about multipathing but don't you need to enable/disable it per host?[15:43:25] *** chrisp1115 has quit IRC[15:46:04] *** cocoa117 has joined #Citrix[15:46:16] <KrayJay> yes and it is on all 6 hosts[15:46:33] <KrayJay> however only 2 of them show 2 of 2 paths active[15:46:36] <KrayJay> the rest just say one[15:46:51] <KrayJay> im going to get on the phone with citrix[15:47:06] <KrayJay> over paying for support so might as well use it[16:04:38] *** deunnero has joined #Citrix[16:12:42] *** klick_ has quit IRC[16:14:29] <Grelot> Guys, do you have to use a netscaler to secure ICA communication between the user and the server ?[16:17:28] <uncon> you should[16:18:46] <Grelot> can you do it without ?[16:18:54] <Grelot> (XA XD 7.6)[16:19:09] <Grelot> my client is using F5 (so no netscaler)[16:24:50] <uncon> you can use VPX[16:24:59] <uncon> (don't have to buy an appliance)[16:25:17] *** av0idz has quit IRC[16:28:30] <Grelot> yeah I know, its just that mixing a netscaler and F5 sounds weird no ?[16:32:15] *** av0idz has joined #Citrix[16:32:43] *** eviscares has joined #Citrix[16:33:44] <eviscares> Hi, has anyone the time and is willing to answer a quick question regarding Maintenance Mode and Migration in XS6.2 in conjunction with CCP?[16:40:09] <CitrixNoob> morning all[16:40:47] <CitrixNoob> David62277: you around today i have a question regarding your setup[16:41:26] <uncon> Grelot: don't mix them?[16:41:54] <uncon> Grelot: they can work independently, right? (you're not load balancing WI/SF or something on the f5, yeah?)[16:45:10] *** batfastad has joined #Citrix[16:45:44] <David62277> im here citrixnoob[16:47:00] <Grelot> we are[16:47:15] <Grelot> SF is load balanced by F5[16:48:33] <David62277> uncon... that diagnostic file... that would include the stuff in /var/core right?[16:49:00] <uncon> Grelot: well, i guess it's about time to fix that then[16:49:04] <uncon> David62277: which?[16:49:12] <Grelot> :)[16:49:21] <David62277> you know the one you create on netscaler and upload to taas for analysis[16:49:32] <uncon> oh, typically not[16:49:51] <uncon> (due to size limits)[16:50:25] <David62277> dumbass non-responsive citrix support guy is asking for the files that were created on 10/29 when we had our reboot issue occur... i dont see any files in /var/core or the subdirectories that were from 10/29[16:50:51] <uncon> sure you're on the right node?[16:50:58] <CitrixNoob> David62277: so i have changed my setup to what you described the other day[16:51:03] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[16:51:04] <David62277> is a stand alone[16:51:13] <CitrixNoob> desktops and app published from the same delivery group[16:51:38] <CitrixNoob> then i have the apps published back to the users based off of AD groups[16:51:50] <David62277> working alright for you?[16:52:34] <uncon> David62277: what's your case #?[16:52:58] <David62277> 64285087[16:53:31] <CitrixNoob> seems to be doing ok i switched back to Citrix UPM created new user did setup folder redirection in citrix policy[16:53:54] <David62277> cool :)[16:54:18] <David62277> what was your question about the setup citrixnoob?[16:54:23] <CitrixNoob> even with new user though i am unable to see the redirected folder in director[16:54:45] <CitrixNoob> i wanted to double check the registry[16:54:46] <David62277> did you check that key after you logged in?[16:55:00] <David62277> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Citrix\UserProfileManager\FolderRedirection\History[16:55:04] <CitrixNoob> thanks[16:55:51] <CitrixNoob> i also noticed that instead of creating a USername folder in my profile path it creates UPM_Profile[16:56:10] <David62277> whats your path set to in policy?[16:56:40] <CitrixNoob> \\server\\upm$\Profiles\ServerVDA[16:57:15] <CitrixNoob> the UPM_Profile folder is create after[16:58:00] <David62277> yeah thats right[16:58:27] <CitrixNoob> for the UPM policy i set migration to none[16:58:29] <David62277> you are spliltting them up with %username% right?[16:59:04] <CitrixNoob> i though the policy auto added %username%[16:59:10] <CitrixNoob> t[17:00:20] <CitrixNoob> so my path to store should be \\server\\upm$\Profiles\ServerVDA\%username%?[17:00:33] <David62277> sec ill give you mine[17:01:27] <batfastad> Can anyone help me understand Netscaler Access Gateway licensing? We have a NetScaler VPX (10) in our data centre that we use for VPN access only.[17:01:48] <CitrixNoob> also since i am using older Wyse thin clients i had to create 2 store one with the PNA legacy support disabled[17:01:52] <batfastad> We don't use it for any application/VDI/load balancing stuff, just for remote access VPN connections[17:02:16] <David62277> \\server\share\%username%.%userdomain%\!CTX_PROFILEVER!!CTX_OSBITNESS! which translates to \\server\share\username.domain\v2x64[17:02:57] <David62277> so at least do %username% otherwise im not sure... but it may try to lump everyone into one profile or something[17:02:59] *** Bsony has quit IRC[17:03:18] <CitrixNoob> yeah i remember the convo from the other day now[17:04:45] <CitrixNoob> ok[17:05:24] <CitrixNoob> log in as admin[17:05:30] <CitrixNoob> i dont have that reg key[17:05:48] <batfastad> We would like to buy another one of these virtual appliances to give remote access to another remote site. Question...[17:06:06] <batfastad> NetScaler is different to NetScaler Gateway is different to Access Gateway?[17:06:12] <David62277> citrixnoob... logon as someone who would get the redirection policy[17:07:02] <CitrixNoob> lol ok i think i'll need to adjust my polcies so i can access the reg as one of those users[17:07:57] <CitrixNoob> or i can find the logged in user under the Hkey_users[17:08:18] <CitrixNoob> so[17:08:53] <CitrixNoob> under HKEY_USERS the one user logged in i have the folder redirection[17:08:58] *** KrayJay has quit IRC[17:09:03] <CitrixNoob> user that is settings[17:09:04] <David62277> yeah using the sid[17:09:07] <CitrixNoob> under[17:09:18] <David62277> you can look at the registry remotely and go to hkey_users[17:09:24] <David62277> then look for the sid of the user in question[17:09:39] <David62277> assuming the remote registry service is running[17:10:10] <CitrixNoob> i looks like UPM Excluded Directories and UPM Included Directories is the only thing there[17:10:38] <David62277> there is no history key?[17:10:50] <CitrixNoob> nope[17:11:10] <CitrixNoob> just the setting key[17:11:36] <David62277> ok go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Citrix and under the numbered keys look for User\UserProfileManagerHDX[17:11:55] <David62277> see if any of them have any values under that key[17:13:02] <CitrixNoob> ok under # 3[17:13:03] <David62277> if any of them do... then under the numbered key look at the evidence key... in there there should be a string value for BrokeringUserSid... you can then use the sid to identify the user in AD[17:13:42] <CitrixNoob> ok got it[17:14:37] <David62277> easiest way to do that probably... add the active directory snapin in powershell and do get-aduser -filter {sid -eq "whatever the sid is"}[17:15:01] <David62277> then search for that user in director and see if there is anything about redirection for that user[17:15:48] <David62277> er not active directory snapin.. module. ipmo activedirectory[17:15:58] <CitrixNoob> i knew what you meant[17:16:04] <CitrixNoob> looking now[17:17:00] <CitrixNoob> looks like it is my test user[17:17:20] <David62277> and redirection doesnt show up for him in director?[17:17:50] <CitrixNoob> yep[17:18:04] <David62277> yep it does or yep it doesnt[17:18:12] <CitrixNoob> i have two session one on desktop and the other outlook neither shows the redirected folder[17:18:17] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[17:18:28] <David62277> are the folders actually being redirected though?[17:18:35] <David62277> just not showing in director?[17:19:16] <CitrixNoob> i created txt file on the desktop[17:20:02] <David62277> open powershell as your test user (if he has rights), and run [environment]::getfolderpath("desktop")[17:20:06] *** eviscares has quit IRC[17:20:42] *** stormlight has quit IRC[17:21:53] <CitrixNoob> it doesnt look like it[17:22:03] <CitrixNoob> in your redirection[17:22:06] <David62277> showing local?[17:22:14] <David62277> C:\users\username\desktop[17:22:17] <CitrixNoob> do you also have the %username%[17:22:22] <David62277> no[17:23:26] <David62277> in the policy set it to the root directory... for instance our users have home directories where we redirect to... path is \\server\share\username. for redirecting desktop we just put in \\server\share into the policy[17:23:45] <David62277> it automatically looks for or creates a folder named after the username[17:23:50] <CitrixNoob> yeah that the policy that takes care of the rest[17:23:56] <CitrixNoob> thats how mine is[17:24:24] <David62277> if it isnt doing it id check the event log... that would definitely be logged if it wasnt able to redirect[17:24:29] <David62277> might be a permissions issue[17:24:44] <CitrixNoob> hmm[17:24:55] <CitrixNoob> ok ill have a look[17:25:13] <David62277> do you have a test area?[17:25:14] <CitrixNoob> the weird thing is the first time i logged in with the user[17:25:40] <CitrixNoob> it was there and show up in director[17:25:41] <David62277> if so you could assign a different policy to redirect to some other share... and give everyone full control (share and ntfs permissions) to see if that works[17:26:18] <CitrixNoob> i will try that[17:26:20] <David62277> did the folder actually get created in the share though?[17:26:24] <David62277> ie: desktop[17:26:39] <CitrixNoob> from what i can tell it did[17:27:01] <CitrixNoob> ill make some changes[17:27:09] <CitrixNoob> and get back[17:27:16] <CitrixNoob> thanks again for all your help[17:27:33] <David62277> on your test user... go delete any re-directed folders that were created... delete or rename the profile in the profile store... see if they get created at the next logon[17:27:33] <CitrixNoob> these are the things that are not covered in the books and training[17:27:47] <CitrixNoob> will do[17:27:51] <David62277> log him off first of course[17:27:57] <CitrixNoob> yeah[17:28:23] <David62277> so in your profile share do you see folders for each user?[17:28:47] <CitrixNoob> not yet since i had the path to store wrong changing that now[17:29:15] *** KrayJay has joined #Citrix[17:29:30] <David62277> that may be the issue... might be using the same profile for everyone... and of course user1 wouldnt have rights to user2's ntuser.dat file... so would probably create a temp profile at each logon[17:30:27] <CitrixNoob> yeah[17:30:48] <David62277> then under each user's folder you should see the folders Pending (created at first logoff), and UPM_Profile[17:31:04] <David62277> and 3 .ini files[17:31:52] <David62277> PmCompatibility.ini, UPMSettings.ini, and UserProfileOrigin.ini[17:32:13] <David62277> UPMSettings.ini will have all the exclusions/inclusions listed in it (no redirection though)[17:32:29] <CitrixNoob> should i have my profile GPO and Folder Redirected GPO separate[17:32:41] <David62277> i dont... but you could[17:32:53] <CitrixNoob> i have loop back processing merge merge in place[17:33:28] <David62277> merge will combine the settings the user normally gets... so any microsoft redirection might mess things up[17:33:42] *** SevenLayerjedi has joined #Citrix[17:34:01] <CitrixNoob> yeah not using MS[17:34:02] <David62277> replace will ignore any normal settings the user would get from their normal OU[17:34:28] <David62277> ok that shouldnt mess anything up then with the merge[17:34:32] <CitrixNoob> i am using the Citrix Redirection[17:35:31] <David62277> not sure how it would handle a ms policy set on my normal user that says redirect desktop to \\server1\share\%username% vs a citrix policy which says redirect desktop to \\server2\share[17:35:57] <Zax1> how do i force a client to use full blown olnline plugin/receiver instead of the desktop viewer[17:36:10] <David62277> would think citrix policy would trump, but the policies arent written to the same reg key from what i can see[17:36:19] <CitrixNoob> the user folder is created in my users share[17:36:42] <David62277> so you have \\server\share\user\upm_profile now?[17:37:07] <CitrixNoob> we are also mapping the users share as an H drive if that matters[17:37:20] <David62277> zax1: i think you can set that in a .conf file somewhere on the storefront server[17:37:36] <David62277> that shouldnt matter[17:40:00] <David62277> we have an X: drive mapped to our home directories \\server\share\username format... then I do redirection of folders to \\server\share[17:40:22] <Zax1> i am trying to map the mic and headset in to a session and it will only open the desktop in desktop viewer, would it matter at all if i use on and not the other ?[17:40:46] <CitrixNoob> thats the same thing i am doing[17:40:49] <David62277> you have both settings for redirection set per folder right... Redirection settings for Desktop - Redirect to the following UNC path... and Desktop path - \\server\share[17:41:18] <CitrixNoob> i have to run to a quick update meeting which will give time for this policy to update ill be back[17:41:20] <CitrixNoob> thanks again[17:41:28] <David62277> ok[17:43:18] <Zax1> ok, so the mic has been redirected bu still i get the sounds on laptop speakers not the headset[17:44:09] <Zax1> ah... changing the hedset to the default device means thats the one it transfers in[17:44:25] <Zax1> is there away i can redirect the default comms device and not the default device ?[17:44:51] <David62277> you can select your default input and output device on the client[17:45:27] <David62277> recording/playback devices[17:46:27] <David62277> so if you wanted to have a headset be your default recording device... set that, and you want your speakers to be the default playback device you could set that... then you could use the mic, and hear sound out of the speakers. or set them both to your headset device and the sound will come out of the headset[17:50:09] *** citrix has joined #Citrix[17:50:36] <citrix> hello[17:50:57] <citrix> anyone know why netscaler insight does not show login page[17:51:13] *** xSnakeDoctor has joined #Citrix[17:54:56] *** kiste has quit IRC[17:57:16] <KrayJay> Can't launch PVD VM unavailable due to planned maitenance[17:57:18] <KrayJay> WTF[17:57:24] <KrayJay> xen server tools installed[17:57:33] <KrayJay> VM up and running in XenCenter[17:57:48] <KrayJay> some dumb reason the delivery group shows it as UNregistered[17:58:21] <KrayJay> when clearly Virtulization State shows optimized xen tools 6.2[17:58:25] <KrayJay> up and running[17:58:28] <KrayJay> any help?[17:58:35] <KrayJay> or another call to Citrix in order?[18:01:11] <David62277> look in studio[18:01:33] <David62277> planned maintenance message means it is in maintenance mode[18:01:58] <David62277> might have been put in maintenance mode if it failed to register[18:02:19] <KrayJay> already checked that[18:02:27] <David62277> is it in maintenance mode?[18:02:46] <KrayJay> put the machine in and out of maitenance mode[18:02:52] <KrayJay> including the delivery group[18:02:58] <David62277> show registered or unregistered?[18:03:03] <KrayJay> unregistered[18:03:06] <David62277> restart it[18:03:12] <KrayJay> did that to[18:03:14] <KrayJay> and shutdown[18:03:25] <KrayJay> tired starting it on different hosts[18:03:28] <KrayJay> still no luck[18:03:35] <David62277> is probably an error with the pvd[18:03:40] <David62277> logon as an admin to the console[18:03:45] <KrayJay> ok[18:03:52] <KrayJay> then?[18:04:08] <David62277> check the event log for warnings/errors[18:04:13] <David62277> you may need to reset the pvd[18:04:23] <KrayJay> will that lose data?[18:04:26] <KrayJay> how do i do that?[18:04:38] <KrayJay> my boss is the only one using a pvd/vm[18:04:38] <David62277> all programs that were installed by the user... profile will remain though[18:04:47] <KrayJay> oh shit[18:04:47] *** cocoa117 has quit IRC[18:04:49] <KrayJay> ugh[18:05:01] <KrayJay> i wonder why it stopped working[18:05:14] <David62277> he an admin of the box? he probably did something stupid[18:05:15] <KrayJay> non-persistent vdisk vms work great[18:05:22] <KrayJay> but this PVD stuff has always been buggy[18:05:30] <KrayJay> yes he is[18:05:44] <David62277> he probably did something like screw with the pvd drive[18:06:01] <David62277> or it could be the pvd is full[18:06:25] <KrayJay> hmm i logged in and it says the personal vdisk cannot start: the personal vdisk could not find a storage disk for users personalization settings[18:06:25] <David62277> in which case you should be able to expand it[18:06:35] <KrayJay> maybe thats because i logged on with a different profile[18:06:39] <David62277> no[18:06:49] <David62277> that means there is something wrong with the pvd[18:06:55] <KrayJay> ugh[18:07:19] <David62277> have any backups?[18:07:29] <David62277> any recent vdisk update?[18:08:07] <KrayJay> he mentioned trying some updates[18:08:12] <KrayJay> but that was a while ago[18:08:24] <KrayJay> he was working last night[18:08:36] <KrayJay> i am having some multipathing issues[18:08:39] <KrayJay> to storage[18:08:45] <David62277> that may be it too then[18:08:46] <KrayJay> i wonder if its related[18:09:10] <KrayJay> multipathing is turned on for all 6 hosts[18:09:25] <KrayJay> but on 2 of the hosts show all paths[18:09:35] <KrayJay> the other 4 only show 1 of 1 active path[18:10:24] <KrayJay> also i moved the VM/pvd from one host to another this morning which caused a long downtime to migrate to the other host i wonder if that caused the issue[18:10:55] <KrayJay> seems like XenServer doesnt move production live VMs between host manually very nice[18:11:03] <KrayJay> guess i have to leave that up to provisioning[18:11:42] <David62277> if there was a pathing issue and you moved it... maybe it didnt get the disk right[18:12:21] <citrix> anyone using netsclaer insight[18:12:36] <David62277> i was... found it useless...[18:13:18] <citrix> oh... lol[18:13:44] <citrix> how do you log access to your gateways[18:14:20] <David62277> i dont really now... i mean i can tell pretty easy with director who is coming in from outside[18:24:22] <KrayJay> i got permission to make him a new one[18:25:53] <KrayJay> this time im not giving him a vdisk that's read only attached with a personal vdisk[18:26:09] <KrayJay> so he can make all the changes he wants what the best practice?[18:28:03] <citrix> david - how do you keep login records for audit purposes[18:28:13] <David62277> monitorit[18:28:52] <citrix> what is monitorit[18:29:23] <David62277> a 3rd party product used to monitor hypervisors, xendesktop, xenapp, network devices, etc[18:31:58] <Zax1> any one has a link to a good Policy components best for LYNC 2013 on xen app ?[18:35:38] *** Bsony has joined #Citrix[18:36:33] *** citrix has quit IRC[18:38:45] <SevenLayerjedi> If you take over a Citrix envionrment, and have no idea what the appdna site password is, is there a way to reset it?[18:39:20] <SevenLayerjedi> The only thing i can think of is doing a query on the db and removing the password hash[18:41:40] *** Lucasje has quit IRC[18:44:05] <David62277> sevenlayerjedi: did a google search on that... http://discussions.citrix.com/topic/350052-reset-administrator-password/ looks like citrix sent this guy instructions directly... so id assume support could help you on that one[18:45:04] <Zax1> does any one know if the hdx realtime optimization pack 1.5 for mucrosoft lync is compatible with XenApp 6.0[18:45:06] <Zax1> ?[18:45:46] <CitrixNoob> David62277: so in the event log i am getting access denied for citrix profile management[18:50:02] <CitrixNoob> looks like permission issue[18:50:05] <CitrixNoob> s[18:50:18] <CitrixNoob> i wish we used tru dfs[18:50:49] <CitrixNoob> iam going to make a few changes and get back with you[18:53:08] <CitrixNoob> another question[18:53:30] <CitrixNoob> anyone with profile streaming enabled using the always cache feature[18:54:30] *** blechinger has joined #Citrix[18:57:56] <blechinger> Hello all! I just got XenServer up and running a few days ago. I was able to start my first VM and configure it how I'd like. I went to create a second one this morning and regardless of how I setup the initial install it fails at around 30 seconds with this error: "Nov 26, 2014 12:50:56 PM Error: Starting VM 'Other install media (1)' - This operation cannot be performed because the specified virtual disk could not be found". If I remove the iso from[18:57:56] <blechinger> the virtual drive it boots fine but, of course, doesn't boot to anything as there's no OS. I googled around and couldn't find anything relevant or helpful. Thoughts?[19:00:03] <CitrixNoob> do you have you ISO's in a share[19:00:13] <CitrixNoob> connected to the xenserver?[19:00:41] <blechinger> Yes. I do. I was able to successfully use one from that share for the first VM.[19:01:12] <CitrixNoob> is your virtual disk on a share as well or local storage[19:01:23] <blechinger> Local.[19:01:47] <CitrixNoob> using the same iso to install 2nd box or diff OS[19:02:14] <David62277> citrixnoob: i use profile streaming... makes for a faster logon[19:02:30] <blechinger> I've attempted both. Doesn't seem to make a difference.[19:03:00] <CitrixNoob> blechinger: do you have the space on local?[19:03:21] <David62277> blechinger... you have it set to boot to dvd?[19:03:27] <CitrixNoob> David62277: yeah i am using that as well i was wondering about the Always cache feature[19:03:36] <blechinger> Yes to both questions.[19:04:17] <David62277> always cache just means anything over X size will be cached and brought over as needed i think... i have mine set to 0 so only brings the actual files it needs over[19:04:48] <CitrixNoob> ok[19:05:50] <David62277> no cd/dvd drive in the virtual hardware maybe... idk... that is weird[19:06:56] <David62277> try doing a rescan on the iso store[19:07:01] <David62277> and then attaching it[19:07:09] <blechinger> Alright. Doing so now.[19:07:15] <|Atum|> ugh, fighting the good fight with level 1 netscaler support. never fun when you're totally down[19:07:25] <|Atum|> just wish this wouldnt drag on for weeks[19:08:03] <David62277> is really bad when you cant understand what the hell they are saying...[19:08:11] <CitrixNoob> i am doing that uphill battle with MS myself[19:08:17] <CitrixNoob> lol\[19:08:35] <David62277> companies really need to stop using india for support[19:09:02] <CitrixNoob> the worst part is the time zone diff[19:09:16] <CitrixNoob> the guy i am working with gets in 1 hours before the end of my shift[19:09:22] <David62277> oh... and then the assholes will be like... i have to take lunch, or my shift is over... bye[19:09:23] <|Atum|> They need to hire more uncons , across all products[19:09:33] <David62277> and youre in a production down situation...[19:09:48] <David62277> had that happen yet atum?[19:09:55] <David62277> support just basically says i have to go...[19:10:36] <|Atum|> Yes[19:10:38] <|Atum|> its happening now[19:10:43] <|Atum|> well not hte "we have to go " part[19:10:45] <blechinger> I bet I know what the problem is. Filepath to the share is different than it was the first time. changed internal IPs.[19:10:46] <David62277> then they either hand you off to someone even more usless than they were or just hanging up on you[19:10:55] <|Atum|> Ive had a handoff though[19:11:02] <|Atum|> it was annoying as crap[19:11:13] <|Atum|> and they NEVER put notes in the case.[19:11:15] <David62277> blechinger... thats it[19:11:28] <David62277> yeah is basically like starting from scratch again[19:11:39] <CitrixNoob> yep[19:11:41] <blechinger> Didn't even think about that. Go figure.[19:12:19] <CitrixNoob> if you can make your CIFS ISO share static that would be best[19:12:38] <David62277> citrix should just charge more for their base support and hire kids straight out of school in the US looking for that entry level position[19:12:44] <|Atum|> i had one where support said "we dont know, call in when its happening" i called in, they had me with a guy who was basically starting over, then the issue stopped happening and he said, "sorry call back in when its happening" - i was livid, ihad been on the phone for an hour and the problem had been happening on and offf for weeks[19:12:59] <|Atum|> David62277: $10-$20/hr is more than $1-2/day[19:13:02] <David62277> oh id let the curse words fly[19:14:48] <David62277> im sure they pay the indians more than $1-2 a day[19:14:55] <CitrixNoob> David62277: i think i got my permissions worked out in DFS gonna try again soon[19:15:54] <blechinger> Thanks for the help David62277 and CitrixNoob.[19:16:44] <CitrixNoob> i help someone I should change my name lol[19:16:53] <|Atum|> avg salary for call center, ~150,000 Indian Rupees, or 2,428.76/yr[19:17:02] <|Atum|> (USD)[19:17:40] <deunnero> It's kind of a catch-22[19:17:48] <|Atum|> if you assume a US-based 2080 day calendar, thats $1.167/hour[19:17:52] <|Atum|> 2080 hour/260 day[19:18:07] <David62277> damn...[19:18:16] <|Atum|> so i was a bit low[19:18:31] <deunnero> muricans don't want to spend the money buying american products to apy for the super awesome support.... They buy cheap items and then turn around and complain about the outsourcing...[19:22:58] <David62277> oh... if i had my way we would have the super ultra high end citrix support[19:23:09] <CitrixNoob> David62277: since i am session sharing how does that affect the licensing[19:23:22] <David62277> is one session so 1 license[19:23:41] <deunnero> David62277: Question.... Is this not super ultra high end citrix support? :O[19:23:42] <CitrixNoob> even though it shows up as to separate sessions in director?[19:23:44] <David62277> and actually.. do you have user/device or concurrent licensing?[19:24:06] <David62277> yes it will be one license citrixnoob[19:24:42] <|Atum|> deunnero: hehe its pretty great if you ask me :>[19:24:50] <David62277> dunnero... yeah sometimes this place is the ultra high end... and it is free :)[19:24:52] <CitrixNoob> we have user/device currently since the remove concurrent but i am going to try and get concurrent back when we re up in Jan[19:25:04] <CitrixNoob> since i heard concurrent is back again[19:25:56] <CitrixNoob> currently i am using the 90 day one in the new 7.6[19:25:58] <David62277> so in director it is showing as multiple sessions? if they are sharing the session it should be one session... maybe director splits it out or something[19:26:07] <CitrixNoob> until i start to move users over[19:26:40] <David62277> concurrent is the way to go IMO... but user/device is cheaper[19:26:47] <CitrixNoob> I only have one server publishing apps and the desktop[19:26:56] <CitrixNoob> i log into the desktop 1 session[19:27:05] <CitrixNoob> then open outlook from receiver[19:27:14] <David62277> in studio does it show it as one session?[19:27:36] <CitrixNoob> hold on i will check we rebooting[19:29:38] <|Atum|> David62277: user/device is only cheaper if all of your users will always be logged in at the same time :-)[19:30:44] <CitrixNoob> yeah not the case[19:30:56] <CitrixNoob> we run 24/7/365[19:31:17] *** Synthead has joined #Citrix[19:31:45] <CitrixNoob> so we may have 450 people in during the day but that drops to like 100 over night[19:32:12] <CitrixNoob> and of course when they move use to user/device the doubled our count[19:32:16] <CitrixNoob> us[19:33:30] <CitrixNoob> so we had like 710 before in xenapp 5 and now we have 1420 user/device[19:33:34] <|Atum|> 24/7 cases are where concurrent gets cheaper too, if you run shifts. you buy say 450 licenses, instead of 1350[19:33:45] <|Atum|> concurrent is generally 2x user/device, so you see you save money[19:33:59] <|Atum|> since you're needing essentially 3x the licenses[19:34:38] <CitrixNoob> if they have brought it back i will be looking to change[19:35:00] <CitrixNoob> sales rep hasn't mentioned it thought... i wonder why[19:38:51] *** SYS_NOOB has joined #Citrix[19:43:26] <David62277> so did a scenario... if your company has 5000 users that would be $1,225,000.00 for user device @ about $245 per license... but lets say at any given time you would have a max of 2000 users logged on concurrent would be $800,000 at about $400 per license[19:47:06] <|Atum|> In my experience if you get ANY discount, you can figure on exactly double the cost. and with that kind of volume you should be able to get discounts[19:55:11] <David62277> was just basing that off of round about numbers i found in a blog[19:55:13] *** thomas123 has joined #Citrix[19:55:24] <thomas123> hiya[19:56:27] <SevenLayerjedi> haha my afternoon just got crazy, HR accidentally sent out salary info to an office and asked me to remove the email from 500 peoples mailboxes..[19:56:37] <thomas123> i'm upgrading from xenapp 6.5 to 7.6 soon. does anyone know if the 2008 r2 optimization guide still mostly applies to xenapp 7.x machines? anyone know of updated optimization guides for 2008 and 2012 both for xenapp 7.x?[19:57:02] <thomas123> SevenLayerjedi wow...[19:58:53] <SYS_NOOB> SevenLayerjedi eek the level on incompetence is real with that one[19:59:11] <David62277> sevenlayerjedi... no way nobody saw that[20:04:46] <deunnero> but question... What's the best backup software for citrix?[20:10:48] <SYS_NOOB> I wouldn't look at that question at a citrix level to be honest but that's just me . I'd be asking at a hypervisor level and then finding a solution that met all of my requirements that was tried and tested.[20:11:58] <KrayJay> David62277: it just hit me[20:12:00] <KrayJay> lol[20:12:53] <KrayJay> PVD utilizes two drives vdisk and personal disk and guess which one wasnt attached due to the multipath reconfigure[20:12:55] <KrayJay> the personal disk[20:12:57] <KrayJay> lol[20:13:00] <KrayJay> attached it and all good[20:13:58] *** kiste has joined #Citrix[20:28:22] *** Bsony has quit IRC[20:30:25] *** m3thod has quit IRC[20:31:42] *** m3thod has joined #Citrix[20:34:15] <David62277> awesome[20:34:20] <David62277> sorry was on a call[20:43:55] *** GentileBen is now known as b[20:44:27] *** b is now known as GentileBen[20:44:31] *** kiste has left #Citrix[20:47:25] <headscratcher> SevenLayerjedi that's a good way to get fired before the holiday[20:48:19] <|Atum|> SevenLayerjedi haha my afternoon just got crazy, HR accidentally sent out salary info to an office and asked me to remove the email from 500 peoples mailboxes.. <-- lol[20:49:10] <|Atum|> Sadly I've answered that request more than once[20:49:12] <|Atum|> and similar[20:50:25] <|Atum|> even had the Search-mailbox syntax in a notepad file that took a variable: $failSubject="Enter the subject of the fail"[20:50:28] <|Atum|> xD[20:50:48] <David62277> just have them do a recall... that always works... :P[20:51:13] <|Atum|> that really baffles me why recall is so bad[20:51:21] <|Atum|> even sending 1 email, recall can often take an hour or more[20:51:28] <|Atum|> users in the SAME db even[20:52:07] <David62277> it never actually recalls the message though... at least i have never seen it actually work[20:52:29] <|Atum|> i sent an email to 5 people once, recalled IMMEDIATELY. 2 succeeded, 3 didnt.[20:52:35] <|Atum|> guess those 3 don't get my typo fix...[20:54:56] <David62277> ive always just got the message recall email... but the original sits in my inbox[20:56:57] <SYS_NOOB> |Atum| Should of made that a function "Save-IdiotsJob"[20:57:09] <SYS_NOOB> I joke I joke :)[20:57:14] <David62277> lmfao[20:57:32] <David62277> function save-idiotsjob($idiot){[20:58:12] <SYS_NOOB> Lol[21:02:20] *** Synthead has quit IRC[21:08:09] <GentileBen> SYS_NOOB, don't be such a noob.[21:08:29] <|Atum|> hehe[21:09:07] <SYS_NOOB> :([21:10:58] *** Synthead has joined #Citrix[21:11:52] *** KrayJay has quit IRC[21:13:00] <deunnero> lol[21:13:10] <deunnero> Had to catch up on the chat[21:13:10] <deunnero> :D[21:13:47] <CitrixNoob> ok[21:30:28] *** xSnakeDoctor has quit IRC[21:39:23] *** R1ppa has joined #Citrix[21:39:49] <R1ppa> Do VM snapshots use the Dom0 local storage or do I need to leave extra space for each target VM?[21:40:50] *** deunnero has left #Citrix[21:49:20] <R1ppa> ok nm it uses the LUN if it is on LUN....shoot I have not been incorporating extra space for snapshots...ZZzzzz[22:05:15] *** Madden has joined #Citrix[22:08:50] *** Synthead has quit IRC[22:12:22] *** r0vert has quit IRC[22:50:08] *** gaffahiro has joined #Citrix[22:55:34] <CitrixNoob> ok David62277[22:56:27] <CitrixNoob> for some reason the Citrix Policy for the folder redirect had permission issues but as soon as i changed it back to MS GPO for folder redirect it started working[22:56:49] <|Atum|> CitrixNoob: what was the path you were using for citrix policy[22:57:05] <CitrixNoob> \\server\users\[22:57:33] <CitrixNoob> i know the policy should see and create the rest[22:57:39] <|Atum|> interesting. ive nevr had a problem with that[22:57:40] <CitrixNoob> %username%/desktop[22:57:44] <|Atum|> just did a new one last week[22:57:49] <CitrixNoob> yeah so weird[22:58:14] <CitrixNoob> so i am using citrix profile manager with MS folder redirect[22:59:06] <CitrixNoob> seems to be ok[23:00:47] <CitrixNoob> i am fairly certain it is the way our DFS user share in configured[23:01:11] <CitrixNoob> i mean we have user profiles still in there from 10 years back[23:01:35] <|Atum|> oh, you're doing FR to a DFS referral?[23:01:49] <CitrixNoob> yeah not good?[23:02:21] <|Atum|> so long as you find a supported scenario: http://blogs.technet.com/b/askds/archive/2010/09/01/microsoft-s-support-statement-around-replicated-user-profile-data.aspx[23:02:26] <CitrixNoob> the share is created on Netapp back end and windows DFS for the permissions[23:02:37] <|Atum|> now, this talks about replication, not necessarily namespaces[23:03:08] <|Atum|> oh interesting, so the netapp filer is the actual host[23:03:13] <CitrixNoob> yep[23:03:13] <|Atum|> confirm the ntfs permissions on the netapp end[23:03:31] <CitrixNoob> i think i will on monday[23:03:42] <CitrixNoob> storage dude gone already[23:04:45] <|Atum|> sigh[23:04:46] <|Atum|> freaking great[23:04:58] <|Atum|> need to register for my VCP550D before end of Nov...pearson's site isnt working[23:06:55] <CitrixNoob> awesome[23:07:06] <CitrixNoob> that sucks[23:07:43] <|Atum|> really i need to PASS[23:07:48] * |Atum| grumbles[23:07:57] <|Atum|> such is life i guess[23:11:54] <CitrixNoob> so not that i have the profiles and folder redirection working need to get printing going and how to get the desktop to load load from our older wyse[23:13:20] <CitrixNoob> it was auto loading before i published apps from the same server now it logs in and i see all the apps and i dont see the desktop unless i have storefront=yes in my ini[23:14:29] <CitrixNoob> and of course the receiver doesnt want to auto connect[23:15:46] *** m3thod has quit IRC[23:15:47] *** blechinger has quit IRC[23:16:27] *** m3thod has joined #Citrix[23:18:25] <CitrixNoob> |Atum|: if it makes you feel any better i once had an MS test scheduled through Pearson and when i got to the testing center they never received info infact their link the pearson was down so they called in switch allowed me to reschedule i did for the next week and the same thing happened[23:23:45] <CitrixNoob> does anyone have guidelines or suggestions on some HDX policies[23:23:48] <|Atum|> had a similar thing, went to the testing center, was delayed 30 min starting because pearson was down[23:28:49] *** tattedup has quit IRC[23:40:55] *** MartynKeigher has quit IRC[23:49:10] <CitrixNoob> when i took my CCA-V the power went out in the whole block as i was walking in they made me wait an hour to see if the power would come back[23:52:00] *** bookem88 has quit IRC[23:53:34] <Grelot> pearson vue's working for me[23:56:29] <CitrixNoob> When i install the lync optimazation pack do i install it befpre or after i install lynce[23:57:29] <CitrixNoob> also has anyone else DL'ed the latest version[23:57:38] <paradizelost> hey all, anyone ran into this before[23:57:45] <paradizelost> i've got a system with several USB drives[23:57:50] *** GentileBen has quit IRC[23:57:50] <paradizelost> i've assigned them drive letters manually[23:58:03] <paradizelost> one is for backups and always stays attached[23:58:07] <paradizelost> the other is a rotating drive[23:58:18] <paradizelost> however, the rotating drive won't keep the drive letter i'm assigning it[23:58:31] <paradizelost> the next time they unplug/replug, it takes the F: drive letter[23:58:34] <CitrixNoob> is there a mapped drive using that letter[23:58:39] <paradizelost> yes[23:58:43] <paradizelost> using the F:[23:58:46] <paradizelost> the one i don't want it to have[23:58:54] <paradizelost> i'm trying to assign it to I: but it won't stay[23:59:00] <paradizelost> and there is no mapped drive i:[23:59:10] <CitrixNoob> so the mapped drive lives on f[23:59:15] <paradizelost> yes[23:59:31] <CitrixNoob> yeah windows is awesome that way