November 24, 2014 
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November 24, 2014 [00:17:56] *** foogle has quit IRC[00:19:00] *** foogle has joined #Citrix[02:19:51] *** _hardlock has joined #Citrix[02:22:06] *** hardlock has quit IRC[02:58:07] *** r0vert has joined #Citrix[03:13:13] *** r0vert has quit IRC[03:24:11] *** siddharthv_away is now known as siddharthv[03:53:03] <uncon> Tom_Wurm: hah, not really[04:52:05] <Tom_Wurm> hey man -- i figured it out[04:56:18] *** mixomathoze has quit IRC[05:04:25] *** mixomathoze has joined #Citrix[05:14:28] *** SYS_NOOB has quit IRC[05:21:04] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[06:37:59] *** chrisp1115 has joined #Citrix[07:33:21] *** Lajo has joined #Citrix[07:41:01] *** kiste has joined #Citrix[07:43:44] *** kiste1 has joined #Citrix[07:46:51] *** kiste has quit IRC[09:00:49] *** Lajo_ has joined #Citrix[09:01:06] *** Lajo has quit IRC[09:01:40] *** Lajo_ has quit IRC[09:01:59] *** Lajo has joined #Citrix[09:05:13] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[09:06:19] *** evilman_work has quit IRC[09:22:10] *** 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stormlight has quit IRC[10:23:39] *** evilman_work has quit IRC[10:24:39] *** evilman_work has joined #Citrix[10:27:51] *** evilman_work has quit IRC[10:28:49] *** evilman_work has joined #Citrix[10:29:27] *** evilman_work has quit IRC[10:30:30] *** evilman_work has joined #Citrix[11:04:12] *** paradizelost has quit IRC[11:18:18] *** paradizelost has joined #Citrix[11:31:06] *** evilman_work has quit IRC[11:32:12] *** evilman_work has joined #Citrix[11:59:23] *** mb_ has quit IRC[12:34:14] *** jdel has joined #Citrix[13:00:28] *** SpideR^ has joined #Citrix[13:00:37] *** SpideR^ has left #Citrix[13:18:46] *** siddharthv is now known as siddharthv_away[13:33:34] *** puffen- has quit IRC[13:39:03] *** rr has joined #Citrix[13:59:14] <tabularasa> morning peeps[14:02:29] <uncon> morning[14:02:44] <tabularasa> still not getting any sleep, bud?[14:02:49] *** GentileBen has joined #Citrix[14:03:06] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[14:03:07] <uncon> we're starting to get some.... sometimes[14:03:23] <uncon> not last night, but a few previously[14:08:45] <tabularasa> yeah, you are "up" early[14:16:35] <tabularasa> about to run 3dmark in a XenApp 6.5 session[14:17:20] <tabularasa> aaaaand... it failed.. lol[14:17:28] <uncon> heh[14:18:02] <uncon> probably for the same reasons q3a does[14:18:19] <tabularasa> q3a is openGL... 3dmark is directx[14:18:25] <tabularasa> i got directx stuff working, so thats odd[14:25:10] *** StirCwazy_ has joined #Citrix[14:25:40] *** SleePy has quit IRC[14:25:43] *** charles81 has quit IRC[14:26:07] *** StirCwazy has quit IRC[14:26:09] *** charles81 has joined #Citrix[14:26:11] *** StirCwazy_ is now known as StirCwazy[14:26:21] *** Lajo has quit IRC[14:27:36] *** SleePy has joined #Citrix[14:29:49] <tabularasa> Any running Lync 2013?[14:33:15] <tabularasa> 3DMark 11 is not compatible with Remote Desktop/Virtualization utilities that hijack the direct draw interface.[14:33:23] <tabularasa> Oh... so i guess this only works through VDA...[14:36:23] <rr> anyone looking for Citrix job?[14:40:57] <tabularasa> someone probably is[14:41:32] <tabularasa> dunno why this heaven benchmark works fine and none of these other tools seem to work[14:52:24] *** MartynKeigher has joined #Citrix[14:55:32] <David62277> so i had a fun time upgrading to 7.5 from 7.1 over the weekend...[14:56:00] <David62277> for whatever reason install worked, but the sql update failed... had to roll back... tried again and all worked[15:11:08] <rr> was it an in-place upgrade David62277?[15:11:16] <David62277> yep[15:11:37] <rr> i'm new to Citrix :)[15:11:57] <rr> is there's supported in place upgrade from older version of 6.x to 7.x?[15:12:50] <David62277> ive never done one, but i think so.[15:13:45] *** chrisp1115 has quit IRC[15:17:22] <tabularasa> no, there is not[15:17:29] <tabularasa> there is not even an implace upgrade from 6.0 to 6.5[15:17:33] <tabularasa> inplace, even[15:18:20] <rr> so, i presume for older version 6.x you have to install it on a new server?[15:18:47] <rr> i've just joined this team, and the customer we are supporting still uses 5.x & 6.x[15:19:00] <rr> where's in my lab, i had all 7.6[15:19:27] <rr> sometimes it's difficult to roll back to match their infra :/[15:19:56] <rr> e.g StoreFront for 7.x, Web Interface for 6.x[15:19:57] <tabularasa> yup[15:20:06] <tabularasa> so, install a new server, basically[15:20:07] <rr> and i don't even know if SSO is still exist[15:22:52] <rsrevord> morning[15:23:07] <tabularasa> morning[15:23:31] <rsrevord> hows it going tabularasa ?[15:23:39] <tabularasa> going good[15:23:47] <tabularasa> looking for more directx11 benchmark tools[15:23:57] <tabularasa> 3dmark won't work in xenapp, nor SPC[15:24:18] <rsrevord> hrm,[15:24:27] <rsrevord> non gpu workloads?[15:24:33] <tabularasa> gpu workloads[15:24:37] <rsrevord> OH[15:24:52] <rsrevord> hrm, so really any term services yes?[15:25:11] <tabularasa> http://www.xenserver.org/partners/developing-products-for-xenserver/18-sdk-development/136-xs-dev-gpu-tools.html[15:25:14] <tabularasa> found it[15:25:39] <rsrevord> ya that'll work as well[15:25:46] <tabularasa> batman arkham city demo.. there we go[15:25:49] <rsrevord> finally with with vgpu?[15:25:58] <tabularasa> english?[15:26:05] <rsrevord> always gotta go with batman[15:26:14] <rsrevord> you got xenserver + k1 card?[15:26:24] <rsrevord> guessing from the link you sent?[15:26:33] <tabularasa> yes yes[15:26:51] <rsrevord> its monday on a 3 day week, there is no english just RUSH, gotta fit 5 days into 3 :([15:27:02] <rsrevord> hrm, speaking of rush....[15:27:31] <rsrevord> k now we have rush playing in the background :)[15:28:11] <tabularasa> :)[15:29:00] <tabularasa> nope, requires steam[15:30:32] <rsrevord> for arkam?[15:30:59] <David62277> tabularasa... you can at least transfer all the settings from 6.x to 7.x... just uninstall 6.5 from your app servers, install the 7.x vda and transfer[15:31:53] <tabularasa> rsrevord: yes, screw that, getting the new unreal engine demo[15:31:58] <tabularasa> David62277: yes, you can do that[15:32:12] <tabularasa> but, "uninstall", is a loose term[15:32:18] <tabularasa> the uninstall for 6.0 and 6.5 is TERRIBLE[15:32:24] <tabularasa> use revouninstaller if you want it to work[15:32:34] <rsrevord> tabularasa: that'll do[15:32:35] <David62277> yeah ive had to do that with receiver[15:32:49] <rsrevord> tabularasa: i had wow running on my demo for a bit just so i could giggle[15:32:51] <tabularasa> shit, i've done a dozen 6.0 -> 6.5 "upgrades" this year[15:32:54] <rsrevord> then i recalled why i stopped play[15:32:56] <rsrevord> ing[15:33:12] <tabularasa> each one had at LEAST 2000 orphaned registry keys[15:33:14] <tabularasa> rsrevord: heh[15:33:15] <tabularasa> nice[15:33:26] <tabularasa> as well as hundreds and hundreds of orphaned files[15:33:52] <rsrevord> alwys build new if you can[15:33:58] <rsrevord> its the you can't always sadly :([15:34:07] *** StirCwazy has quit IRC[15:34:28] <David62277> citrix support was pretty useless friday night in my upgrade.. ran into 2 issues. upgraded SF to 2.6, and our disclaimer broke... continue button wouldnt work anymore. and the upgrade of the database after upgrading our first DDC failed...[15:35:00] <rsrevord> David62277: on the disclaimer, desktops or session hosts?[15:35:13] <David62277> the storefront website[15:35:18] <rsrevord> OH[15:35:31] <rsrevord> i tried the disclaimer there once, i couldn't get it to work[15:35:32] <David62277> the code for 2.1 is different than 2.6[15:35:48] <rsrevord> had alot of mouse issues with the GPO logon messages or whatever that policy is[15:36:18] <tabularasa> that sucks[15:36:21] <rsrevord> yup[15:36:47] <rsrevord> i'll try the disclaimer on 2.6 next week, if i can i'll try this week but doubt i'll have the time[15:37:10] <David62277> let me see if i can find the link for the code i used to get it to work right[15:38:20] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[15:38:21] <David62277> http://danielruiz.org/2014/10/10/customizing-citrix-storefront-2-6-including-pre-login-message-page/ <-- scroll down there is a link to http://blogs.citrix.com/2014/10/14/customizing-receiver-for-web-2-6/[15:39:39] <David62277> the pre-login code we were using was from this site http://blogs.citrix.com/2013/06/26/customizing-receiver-for-web-in-storefront-2-0/[15:39:49] <David62277> but that didnt work with 2.6[15:45:46] <tabularasa> so, these Xenith's just CHOKE on CPU when doing ANYTHING related to video[15:45:52] <tabularasa> sigh..[15:46:03] <tabularasa> the Pro isn't bad, but god, the regular ones are terrible[15:46:49] <David62277> seriously? the Xeniths cant handle video?[15:47:38] <David62277> was recommending we get some of them... then again we dont have any grid cards... so would work fine in our environment. though the way apps are going (ie: Office) we may have to get some sooner or later[15:48:27] <tabularasa> they blow[15:48:35] <tabularasa> for anything but regular office type work[15:48:52] <tabularasa> even youtube sucks ass on them[15:48:59] <tabularasa> regular old SD youtube[15:49:10] <David62277> flash redirection sucks?[15:49:17] <tabularasa> the xenith 2 "works"... "sometimes"... "ok"....[15:49:20] <tabularasa> no FR on the xeniths[15:49:29] <tabularasa> does anyone have FR working on 6.5 reliabily?[15:49:32] <David62277> oh thought they would[15:49:48] <tabularasa> every time i enable it, IE goes to shit and locks up on random websites, even when locking it down to youtube.com[15:50:08] <David62277> tabularasa... my last job we had a 6.5 environment... FR worked sometimes[15:50:11] *** greendust has joined #Citrix[15:50:36] <David62277> had to make quite a few rules as a lot of sites didnt play well with it[15:51:09] <greendust> hey all - anyone know how to disable workspace control on Storefront 2.6 in a 6.5 environment? Changes to the web.config don't seem to be taking effect :\[15:51:17] <greendust> stupid shared domain user accts...[15:51:19] <David62277> youtube was one of the biggest issues we had with FR[15:55:17] <David62277> http://discussions.citrix.com/topic/351705-how-to-remove-single-session-limit-xendesktop-71-2012r2/[15:55:57] <David62277> oh... damn 6.5 environment... that wont work then will it...[15:57:43] <greendust> right? It's p crazy. I think the feature is great, supposing one user=one logon but... yeah[16:03:26] *** deunnero has joined #Citrix[16:04:19] <GentileBen> Hey tabby.[16:04:24] <rsrevord> tabularasa: i gave up with FR after all the sites that would spaz because flash wasn't on the actual host and tryig to browse files etc.[16:04:39] <rsrevord> maintaining the exclusion list is to much work[16:10:22] <David62277> greendust... get rid of the shared user accts...[16:10:30] <David62277> problem solved :)[16:10:47] <David62277> thats a hell of a security hole anyways[16:12:34] <greendust> that's what I've been doing as a work around - not really my job, more of infosec dragging their ass[16:12:52] <greendust> but our users are coddled[16:14:34] <tabularasa> rsrevord: yeah, no doubt[16:14:44] <tabularasa> rsrevord: i'm going to give it another whirl, but only do a whitelist[16:14:58] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[16:22:37] *** stormlig_ has joined #Citrix[16:24:57] *** stormlight has quit IRC[16:26:35] *** jdel has quit IRC[16:33:24] *** stormlig_ has quit IRC[16:33:31] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[16:48:32] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[17:00:36] <rsrevord> tabularasa: not a bad plan[17:03:37] *** CitrixNoob has joined #Citrix[17:05:33] <jduggan> hey[17:05:37] <jduggan> any XS folk here ?[17:05:45] <jduggan> OOMkiller gone nuts on a HV in a pool[17:05:53] <jduggan> killing the toolstack/xapi[17:05:57] <jduggan> i cant move the working VMs off[17:06:01] <jduggan> free -m showing free memory[17:06:07] <jduggan> both real and cache[17:06:10] <jduggan> anyone seen this ?[17:06:11] <jduggan> its 6.2[17:07:20] <johnelse> jduggan: I've seen things like that...does top show anything using a lot of cpu?[17:07:52] <jduggan> nope[17:07:57] <jduggan> vswitch using 5% is the highest usage[17:09:19] <johnelse> is this the master or a slave?[17:09:20] <jduggan> wondering whether i disable oomkiller and try to move VMs away..[17:09:35] <jduggan> this is a slave[17:10:02] <jduggan> but i have production systems on here that would be a royal pain to have to reboot if i had to reboot the node[17:11:43] <johnelse> usually I've seen things like that on the master...not sure what might be causing it on a slave[17:12:13] <johnelse> moving VMs off and rebooting might be the best bet[17:12:17] <CitrixNoob> morning guys[17:12:28] <|Atum|> heyo[17:13:12] <|Atum|> rsrevord tabularasa: i gave up with FR after all the sites that would spaz because flash wasn't on the actual host and tryig to browse files etc. <---- exactly.[17:13:20] <CitrixNoob> has anyone done a kiosk style setup using XD and Wyse terminals[17:13:23] *** r0vert has joined #Citrix[17:13:25] <|Atum|> That, or flash auto updater re-enabling itself[17:13:34] <|Atum|> CitrixNoob: yes, several[17:13:41] *** damadhatter has quit IRC[17:13:51] *** damadhatter has joined #Citrix[17:15:05] <tabularasa> |Atum|: that good?[17:16:21] <CitrixNoob> I think i got it for the most part[17:16:56] <CitrixNoob> i just need to push a website full screen tp a wyse[17:17:03] <CitrixNoob> easy enough[17:17:39] <CitrixNoob> issue is making sure of the wyse reboots it will auto sign back in and auto launch the app[17:18:03] <|Atum|> tabularasa: was, annoying as all hell. Force flash updater off, but then adobe decides its so critical that not only will it apply the update, it will auto then re-enable the auto updater[17:18:22] <|Atum|> CitrixNoob: is it a windows terminal or other?[17:18:30] <|Atum|> if its windows you want "AutoAdminLogon"[17:18:32] <CitrixNoob> thinOS[17:18:41] <CitrixNoob> i have been messing with the unu files[17:18:43] <CitrixNoob> ini[17:18:52] <|Atum|> Somewhere in the ini there is an autologon portion[17:18:57] <CitrixNoob> k[17:19:30] <|Atum|> possibly "SignOn=yes"[17:19:36] *** Tom_Wurm has quit IRC[17:19:52] <CitrixNoob> yeah[17:22:36] <tabularasa> so, wtf are we supposed to do about video?[17:22:52] <|Atum|> suck it up, use deepcompression v2 and render everything server side or use GRID[17:23:16] <tabularasa> unless i'm missing something, GRID doesn't do crap for youtube videos[17:23:24] <|Atum|> really option #2 is the only viable one if you're not a complete techno-illiterate because the FPS otherwise is awful[17:23:34] <|Atum|> mm really?[17:23:35] <tabularasa> i have seen 0 performance boosts in my test environment with vGPU enalbed and not enabled[17:23:39] <tabularasa> i'm still testing[17:23:43] <|Atum|> I thought hardware acceleration with the vgpu would enable it?[17:23:52] <tabularasa> i'm still testing[17:24:12] <|Atum|> make sure hardware acceleration is enabled in flash[17:24:20] <rsrevord> make sure its not full screen[17:24:22] <|Atum|> and obviously that the GRID drivers are in and whatnot[17:24:24] <rsrevord> the application[17:24:38] <tabularasa> hmmm...checking hardware accel in flash[17:34:44] <BobFrankly> anyone using Kyocera printers with citrix pubished desktops?[17:35:50] *** r0vert has quit IRC[17:39:54] <jduggan> johnelse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9217188/ logs are getting spammed with this[17:42:03] <johnelse> jduggan: ah yes...that's by design sadly, each guest writes its free memory to xenstore and that gets picked up by a daemon in dom0[17:53:50] *** kiste1 has left #Citrix[17:54:22] <jduggan> johnelse: ive stopped the oom killer running, restarted xapi, cannot forward messages because the server cannot be contacted... when trying to migrate any VM :([17:55:25] <johnelse> are both stunnel and xapi running and listening on the slave?[17:57:21] <jduggan> they were yes[17:57:41] <jduggan> as in xe-toolstack-restarted started everything without issue and it became active within xenclient[17:57:46] <jduggan> restart*[18:00:25] <jduggan> i think oom is still killing[18:04:57] <jduggan> yea it is[18:05:00] <jduggan> odd ?[18:05:45] <johnelse> yeah...[18:06:01] <johnelse> does anything interesting appear in xensource.log while xapi's still running?[18:11:39] *** Lucasje has quit IRC[18:12:15] <tabularasa> then.. had a meeting[18:12:18] *** deunnero has quit IRC[18:13:05] <jduggan> johnelse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9217578/ dont see anything too interesting[18:14:02] <johnelse> no not really[18:14:10] <johnelse> how much dom0 memory are you using?[18:15:07] <jduggan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9217653/[18:16:34] <johnelse> ok, that is weird...[18:16:46] <johnelse> possibly xapi was using that 3GB before it died[18:19:02] <jduggan> doesnt look like it[18:23:07] *** deunnero has joined #Citrix[18:42:23] *** hnb has joined #Citrix[18:43:55] *** hnb has left #Citrix[19:05:11] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[19:06:01] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[19:31:22] *** vegbox has joined #Citrix[19:31:30] <vegbox> XenMobile![19:38:11] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[19:39:33] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[19:51:20] *** r0vert has joined #Citrix[19:52:59] *** stormlight has quit IRC[19:55:24] <tabularasa> vegbox: heh[19:58:29] <vegbox> Are you on it?[19:58:36] <vegbox> I am waiting for the touchid[19:59:06] <|Atum|> supposedly appcontroller is getting merged in to another component soon?[20:12:40] <deunnero> tabularasa: how goes with the grid cards!? :D[20:16:09] <vegbox> Yeah[20:16:14] <vegbox> How goes it?[20:16:24] <vegbox> Is XenServer stable enough to use?[20:16:40] <vegbox> I have this stigma with it that is still community[20:25:15] *** r0vert has quit IRC[20:26:14] <David62277> vegbox... yes it is[20:26:20] <David62277> used it at my last company[20:26:51] <vegbox> We are a esx/vsphere shop[20:26:59] <vegbox> with NetApp[20:27:03] <David62277> same here[20:27:14] <David62277> my last company was too... except for the XenApp environment[20:27:47] <vegbox> I love that its free[20:27:55] <vegbox> but I dont wantt o risk my job is support is not there when I need it[20:28:01] <David62277> we were siloed there, and the storage/vmware guys wouldnt even give us rights to load an .iso onto our VMs... when we went to XA 6.5 we were like... screw you guys we are using XenServer[20:28:13] <David62277> Citrix supports it[20:28:30] <David62277> do you have a support contract?[20:28:39] <vegbox> Yeah for XenDesktop Platinum[20:28:43] *** Tom_Wurm has joined #Citrix[20:28:53] <David62277> then you should have support for XS[20:29:11] <Tom_Wurm> Strange issue -- HDX pro XD 7.5 can launch desktop in windowed mode. but not over multi monitors. the session starts then just dissapears[20:29:22] <Tom_Wurm> anyone have any experience with HDX Pro?[20:29:37] <David62277> you have nvidia grid cards installed?[20:29:47] <Tom_Wurm> starts fine windowed but full screen launch on 2 monitors it fails[20:29:49] <Tom_Wurm> yes k1[20:30:02] <David62277> if you install the VDA with the hdx pro stuff and dont have them you will see issues like that...[20:30:45] <Tom_Wurm> we using XS 6.2 with Grid K-1[20:30:51] <David62277> i havent messed with it much, but id imagine if the desktops aren't seeing the video card correctly it might do that[20:31:17] <David62277> would be like installing the vda with the hdx pro options and not having the card[20:31:25] <tabularasa> i haven't tried 2 screens yet, but i'm on 6.5[20:31:28] <David62277> which that caused that exact problem[20:32:37] <Tom_Wurm> hmm[20:32:39] <Tom_Wurm> soo weird.[20:33:02] <Tom_Wurm> Im sure the graphics card is working ebcause I can see it in XS allocate the gpu, it also shows the lossless icon in the session[20:33:18] <David62277> Tom... on the client machine try this... go to hkcu\software\citrix\xendesktop\desktopviewer[20:33:23] <David62277> delete all the keys under that[20:33:30] <David62277> open the desktop, and see if you can span it[20:33:47] <Tom_Wurm> I can span it just fine, just wont launch multi monitor[20:34:03] <Tom_Wurm> while its launching if I sert it to windowed its fine. or one full screen its fine.. only when its 2 monitors..[20:34:14] <Tom_Wurm> after the session does start I can span it over 2 or more just fine.[20:34:23] <David62277> sounds just like the issue i had when someone installed the hdx pro stuff when they updated the image[20:35:06] *** JoJo_ has joined #Citrix[20:35:26] <Tom_Wurm> on a non - gpu machine right David62277?[20:36:50] <David62277> right[20:37:18] <Tom_Wurm> freakin weird![20:37:25] <David62277> try re-installing the VDA for shits and giggles?[20:37:32] <Tom_Wurm> David62277 -- I might[20:38:41] <David62277> anything in the event log of the vm?[20:55:13] *** gaffahiro has joined #Citrix[20:58:25] *** CitrixNoob has quit IRC[20:59:12] <|Atum|> so... static assignments in XD. Is there a simpler way to add a group? it seems like you can assign an array of users to a particular VM, but not a group. Id rather not make a delivergroup per-vm, nor would i like to have to periodically assign users statically to a VM using a script...[21:00:14] <David62277> atum you can do random[21:00:47] <David62277> or are you doing PvD/MCS?[21:01:02] <|Atum|> No pvd, and i want to do static for other reasons[21:01:14] <|Atum|> Office1 needs to use machine1 for licensing reasons[21:01:16] <|Atum|> always.[21:01:38] <David62277> add the group to the delivery group... then when a user logs on they will be assigned a desktop[21:02:49] <|Atum|> Consider the scenario: Office1, Office2. Office1 has Ben and Jane. Office2 has John and Julie. There are 2 machines in the delivery group and Office1 and Office2 are assigned to the group. Ben logs in and is assigned Machine1. Jane logs in and is assigned Machine2. John logs in and is assigned Machine2. Julie logs in and is assigned Machine2.[21:03:07] <|Atum|> The only way I see around this is to pre-assign the machines, which I can do, but only with a user, not a group[21:03:14] <David62277> 2 delivery groups[21:03:14] <|Atum|> I need to ensure that ben and jane get machine1[21:03:22] <David62277> one with office1 and one with office2[21:03:30] <|Atum|> That was hypothetical :)[21:03:34] <|Atum|> this is a much larger scenario than 2.[21:03:36] <|Atum|> ;D[21:03:58] <David62277> well ben and jane couldnt use the same desktop at the same time[21:04:06] <|Atum|> Correct.[21:04:17] <|Atum|> that's intended.[21:04:44] <David62277> office if i remember right is licensed per user[21:04:52] <David62277> right?[21:04:55] <tabularasa> so, GRID does dick for videos on Xenith[21:04:57] <|Atum|> its not office[21:05:00] <tabularasa> CPU maxes out like a MF playing videos[21:05:01] <|Atum|> its a special app[21:05:06] <tabularasa> on the Xenith itself[21:05:11] <tabularasa> tried a 2 and a pro[21:05:13] <|Atum|> that doesnt make sense[21:05:15] <tabularasa> both suuuuuuuck[21:05:23] <|Atum|> why would CPU Go high on the xenith?[21:05:25] <tabularasa> i don't have any pro2, which has a WAY better CPU[21:05:33] <tabularasa> because it still has to render the video[21:05:39] <tabularasa> not render... display[21:05:50] <|Atum|> is there no gpu in it?[21:06:00] <David62277> any settings you can change on the xenith to make it better?[21:06:16] <David62277> like allocate more ram to video or something[21:06:23] <tabularasa> i've tweaked a ton[21:06:30] <tabularasa> the best thing i've found is to set the FPS to like 13[21:06:44] <tabularasa> no GPU on the Xenith2... the pro has one, but its certainly not doing any offloading[21:06:50] <vegbox> Xenith is only good at windows media redirection[21:06:55] <vegbox> so h264 is great[21:06:55] <tabularasa> according to Wyse, the Pro2 is the first to "support" hdx3d[21:07:02] <vegbox> I want wach 1080p all day long[21:07:12] <vegbox> and my backend servers do not have gpu[21:10:36] <David62277> ok so atum... is that software licensed per PC?[21:17:22] <David62277> you could write a powershell script to read a .csv file or something with machine name and user assignments in it[21:17:49] <David62277> and then assign each machine to the list of users defined in the csv[21:31:26] <|Atum|> yes but that has to be maintained...looks like i may need to go that route[21:31:36] <|Atum|> some sort of timed script to read ad group[21:32:39] *** CitrixNoob has joined #Citrix[21:32:54] <David62277> if you need help let me know im pretty good at powershell[21:33:33] <CitrixNoob> hey Atum for your setup what wyse were you using[21:41:04] <David62277> looks like you'd do this... add-brokeruser "domain\username" -privatedesktop "domain\machinename"[21:43:14] <|Atum|> oh i know how i just wanted to avoid having to rely on yet-another nightly script[21:43:28] <|Atum|> seems like the kind of thing you'd want to handle with a group is all[21:43:32] <|Atum|> thanks David62277[21:43:59] <|Atum|> CitrixNoob: Z90SW (WES2009), C90LEW(WES2009), nComputing n500. I demoed a few ThinOS[21:46:37] <David62277> id go the 2 delivery group route... give everyone their own desktop... maybe do logon hours with forced logoff so ben is off when jane wants to use the program[21:46:56] <David62277> way less of a headache that way[21:49:31] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[21:56:51] *** JoJo_ has quit IRC[22:00:27] *** SYS_NOOB has joined #Citrix[22:05:16] *** CitrixNoob has quit IRC[22:05:21] *** Zax1 has joined #Citrix[22:10:49] *** CitrixNoob has joined #Citrix[22:11:07] <CitrixNoob> Quick PVS standard image question[22:11:30] <CitrixNoob> Standard Mode question[22:13:27] <CitrixNoob> for the master image i know i need to set the page file to static but is there a suggest size?[22:15:39] <CitrixNoob> i am running 08 r2 with 22GB RAM with write cache on device HD if i leave static 22GB for page file i end up with 7 gigs free on write cache disk[22:28:39] <David62277> Thunder1[22:29:07] <David62277> oops... now you know a password for a test user... :P[22:30:37] <David62277> CitrixNoob... for our regular desktops we have it set to 2GB... they have 4GB of ram[22:32:35] <David62277> our app servers (which they don't take on a lot of sessions and we only have 5 of them - could get away with 2 easily) we them set at 12GB with 12GB of ram... that's definitely overkill though[22:35:29] <CitrixNoob> ok[22:35:32] <David62277> CitrixNoob try setting it at half and see how they perform... so 11GB page file[22:35:33] <CitrixNoob> thanls[22:36:11] <David62277> page file is one of those things you just have to experiment with... ive even heard of people killing it altogether in a PvS environment[22:36:41] <CitrixNoob> i wasn't sure that is why i asked[22:37:00] <David62277> how many sessions per server average?[22:38:02] <CitrixNoob> in my current xen app 5 about 30[22:38:11] <CitrixNoob> depends on dept[22:38:22] <David62277> so you need more cache space[22:38:41] <CitrixNoob> yeah i have 30 write cache disk attached[22:38:47] <CitrixNoob> 30gb[22:39:24] <David62277> try knocking page file down to 10GB and see if you see any difference in performance[22:39:50] <CitrixNoob> k[22:40:35] <David62277> that will leave you with 20GB for caching which should be plenty... as long as you're rebooting on a regular schedule[22:41:16] <CitrixNoob> yeah my servers are number and schedule reboots based off of odd and even[22:41:29] <CitrixNoob> so everyother night[22:41:38] <David62277> sounds like what we did at my last company[22:43:09] <CitrixNoob> seems to be doing ok so far[22:45:06] <CitrixNoob> went back to MS Roaming Profiles could never get the redirected folder to show up in Director[22:45:19] <David62277> thats weird[22:45:33] <David62277> even on a brand new non-migrated profile?[22:46:25] <CitrixNoob> no i didnt test it that way[22:47:58] <CitrixNoob> i may revisit it one day[22:48:22] <David62277> if you test again... logon as a test user and check hkcu\software\citrix\userprofilemanager\folderredirection\history[22:48:35] <David62277> see if you see anything in there indicating folder redirection[22:48:58] <CitrixNoob> k[22:49:38] <CitrixNoob> this lync icon thing has got me now[22:49:58] <CitrixNoob> i guess it it a known bug with 08r2 and windows 7[22:51:03] <David62277> whats that? we use jabber so no idea[22:51:25] <David62277> used lync at my last job though... didnt have any major issues with lync[22:51:52] <David62277> whats the icon thing?[22:52:25] <CitrixNoob> not everytime but maybe 5 out of 10 lync will start and sign in no issue but the on the task bar is one of the MS 2010 products instead[22:52:52] <CitrixNoob> for me it is excel[22:53:08] <CitrixNoob> instead of the lync icon[22:53:26] <David62277> weird never saw that... you could always use resource hacker to extract the .ico from the lync executable and set it manually on the published app[22:53:59] <David62277> assuming you're publishing it[22:54:16] <CitrixNoob> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/d25369cd-6f72-4947-97b9-66ffe00f0eda/wrong-office-2007-icons-in-taskbar?forum=winserverTS[22:54:25] <CitrixNoob> nope running local[22:54:46] <CitrixNoob> i am only publishing desktop with apps install[22:56:03] <CitrixNoob> i have a lot of user complaints with things not working as it should by with publishing apps to their Share Host Desktop like drag and drop[22:56:06] <David62277> try that hotfix they mention?[22:56:36] <CitrixNoob> not yet i only just found that one i was posting an example lol[22:57:24] <David62277> citrixnoob... if you publish an app... like lets say excel, and the user launches it from a hosted shared desktop... assuming excel is published to that server as well... it should session share[22:57:50] <David62277> so is basically the same thing as launching excel locally, only you can easily control who sees the app[22:58:37] <CitrixNoob> problem is our in house app does not function like that[22:59:02] <David62277> it launches a separate session?[22:59:13] <CitrixNoob> there are other things maybe it is better in 7.6 from XA 5[22:59:35] <David62277> cause xd should see that the user already has a session on the server, and as long as that server has the app it should launch it in the same session[22:59:49] <David62277> or XA[23:00:01] <David62277> i know it worked well in XA 6.x[23:00:47] <David62277> cause we published a shared desktop and controlled access to all apps via published apps. the servers had all the apps installed on them, but youd only get the icons via receiver if you were in the group for the app[23:01:06] <CitrixNoob> the guy before me build out HSD and then app server that push office inhouse and a number of other apps to the users on the HSD for one Dept. that is the Dept that complains the most[23:01:51] <CitrixNoob> oh[23:02:23] <CitrixNoob> HSD and Apps on same server?[23:03:15] <David62277> we had application servers which we installed all apps on... well one image really. user would launch a desktop session to the app server, and then launch their apps via receiver icons. since all the apps were installed on the server the apps launched in the same session[23:05:05] <CitrixNoob> i think i understand instead of publishing just the desktop to the users. Publish the desktop and the applications?[23:08:03] <CitrixNoob> if i do it is that way it would eliminate my need for one of the Images[23:08:48] *** xSnakeDoctor has joined #Citrix[23:09:37] <CitrixNoob> like my sales users have no need for office and my customer service guys do and right now they have two separate images[23:10:05] <CitrixNoob> thanks for the advise[23:10:18] <CitrixNoob> advice[23:16:57] *** calum_ has joined #Citrix[23:17:09] *** stormlight has quit IRC[23:17:15] *** calum_ has quit IRC[23:17:30] <CitrixNoob> David62277: mine blown[23:23:45] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[23:27:24] *** gaffahiro has quit IRC[23:27:43] <CitrixNoob> David62277: how does that then show up in director[23:28:08] <CitrixNoob> does it show up as one session or multiple[23:28:09] <CitrixNoob> ?[23:32:54] *** stormlight has quit IRC[23:40:27] *** deunnero has left #Citrix[23:42:47] <|Atum|> so since win8 apps arent supported for UPM unless you have pvd do i just disable the store altogether?[23:47:14] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[23:50:53] *** MartynKeigher has quit IRC[23:53:37] *** GentileBen has quit IRC[23:59:43] *** CitrixNoob has quit IRC