November 21, 2014 
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It seems you need a RDP 5.2 client to connect to NT4. The 6.x RDP clients refuse to connect even if you force 8bpp[07:11:08] *** SpideR^ has joined #Citrix[07:20:19] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[08:18:12] *** kiste has joined #Citrix[08:19:02] *** hardlock has joined #Citrix[09:27:39] *** kiste1 has joined #Citrix[09:30:42] *** kiste has quit IRC[09:43:45] *** kiste1 has quit IRC[10:10:30] *** klick_ has joined #Citrix[10:25:47] *** Lucasje has joined #Citrix[11:04:55] *** paradizelost has quit IRC[11:17:49] *** paradizelost has joined #Citrix[11:38:59] *** rr has joined #Citrix[12:25:05] *** kiste has joined #Citrix[12:52:30] *** SpideR^ has quit IRC[12:53:49] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[12:54:16] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[12:54:20] *** calum_ has joined #Citrix[13:02:03] *** siddharthv is now known as siddharthv_away[13:02:41] *** kiste1 has joined #Citrix[13:04:48] *** kiste has quit IRC[13:06:25] *** jduggan_ has quit IRC[13:07:31] *** jduggan has joined #Citrix[13:12:34] *** klick_ has quit IRC[13:35:32] *** r0vert has joined #Citrix[13:38:29] *** klick_ has joined #Citrix[13:52:26] *** calum_ has joined #Citrix[14:03:42] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[14:25:55] *** T0Wka has joined #Citrix[14:26:48] <David62277> good morning[14:26:55] *** evilman_work has quit IRC[14:31:12] <uncon> morning[14:31:38] *** Lucasje has quit IRC[14:56:23] <Splatone_> M0rn1ng[14:56:27] *** kevjr has joined #Citrix[15:12:44] *** MartynKeigher has joined #Citrix[15:12:58] *** bookem88 has joined #Citrix[15:13:07] *** evilman_work has joined #Citrix[15:15:35] *** tris has quit IRC[15:17:51] *** tris has joined #Citrix[15:22:41] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[15:23:21] <stormlight> Can someone tell me what UPM would fall under on the citrix download page? I cant find it[15:31:19] *** stormlight has quit IRC[15:51:24] <|Atum|> argpvs[15:51:49] <|Atum|> PlatformESX caught exception System.Exception: Unable to get preferred datastore (LUN 114 - Citrix 3 Low IO).[15:52:03] <|Atum|> why the crap would it need to get that? theres no disks in my template[15:53:46] <|Atum|> must be coming from XD host unit resources[15:53:56] *** deunnero has joined #Citrix[16:04:38] <tabularasa> stormlight: its going to be under xenapp or xendesktop[16:07:20] *** klick_ has quit IRC[16:08:04] *** rr has quit IRC[16:13:21] *** GentileBen has joined #Citrix[16:18:18] *** kevjr has quit IRC[16:20:01] *** kevjr has joined #Citrix[16:56:48] *** GentileBen has quit IRC[17:00:12] <vegbox> Sweet[17:00:16] <vegbox> Free Citrix Exams[17:04:54] <tabularasa> oh shit, i need to schedule my CCE-V[17:08:40] <vegbox> Well only for NetScaler[17:08:41] <vegbox> 10.5[17:08:49] <vegbox> so 253 and 351 one exams[17:13:06] *** jqjaahfh has joined #Citrix[17:13:24] <jqjaahfh> anyone here[17:14:13] <tabularasa> i'm sure there are[17:16:19] *** jqjaahfh has left #Citrix[17:18:49] <kevjr> anyone here use vDS?[17:24:38] <|Atum|> Can new target device (7.6) connect to older PVS (7.1.3.1)?[17:25:43] <|Atum|> built an 81 image, unfortunately bluescreen after converted to pvs and i pre-maturely deleted the base lol[17:28:18] <|Atum|> interesting, maint ver works just fine even without a maint disk.[17:44:03] *** deunnero has quit IRC[17:50:13] *** deunnero has joined #Citrix[18:05:32] *** nick7 has joined #Citrix[18:09:08] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[18:12:15] *** stormlight has quit IRC[18:13:43] <uncon> tabularasa: i just fired up q3 team arena... there's still quite a few servers running[18:18:37] *** kiste1 has quit IRC[18:33:58] *** vegbox has quit IRC[18:38:26] *** nick7 has quit IRC[18:45:08] *** brad[] has quit IRC[18:45:38] *** brad[] has joined #Citrix[18:49:00] <tabularasa> uncon: nice.. I can't get it to launch in the VDI[18:49:00] <tabularasa> it can't seem to find opengl[18:49:01] <tabularasa> haven't screwed with it much more[18:54:49] *** fogd has quit IRC[18:57:36] <uncon> tabularasa: with ioquake3?[18:58:15] <tabularasa> yeah[18:58:38] <uncon> TBH, i've never run it on windows[18:58:48] <uncon> i have the original bins on w98 (:[18:59:52] <tabularasa> ha[19:03:54] *** fingman has quit IRC[19:14:37] *** awvm has joined #Citrix[19:15:58] *** awvm has quit IRC[19:19:02] *** CitrixNoob_ has quit IRC[19:19:22] *** CitrixNoob has joined #Citrix[19:20:00] *** Synthead has quit IRC[19:20:33] <CitrixNoob> good afternoon[19:22:58] <CitrixNoob> is there a easy why to clean up the citrix profile folders that are left behind after a reset?[19:23:41] <tabularasa> powershell script[19:25:54] <CitrixNoob> how often on average is one run[19:26:21] <CitrixNoob> i know when i migrate all the users over i will have to do a profile reset for everyone at least once[19:28:24] <CitrixNoob> i think i can manage writing a PS script for that purpose[19:28:29] <CitrixNoob> next question[19:29:42] <CitrixNoob> My setup is 7.6 with Citrix UPM and Citrix Policy with FR in place i also have Profile steaming setup[19:30:10] *** m3thod has quit IRC[19:30:32] *** m3thod has joined #Citrix[19:31:24] <CitrixNoob> in director i notice that when i login a user for the first time i see under their account under details personalization that folder redirection shows up[19:32:43] <CitrixNoob> but after they have logged out and back in the redirected folder shows as not available is that normal when using UPM and Steaming[19:32:58] <David62277> no doesnt sound right...[19:33:09] *** Synthead has joined #Citrix[19:33:10] <David62277> check to see if the folder(s) are being redirected[19:33:19] <CitrixNoob> they are[19:33:41] <David62277> cause mine say redirected folder online and then under that gives me the path[19:34:04] <CitrixNoob> thats how it was the first time i logged in with a user[19:34:18] <CitrixNoob> but ever time after that i dont get the path[19:34:24] <David62277> thats on 7.1 though... let me check what 7.5 says... give me a min[19:34:41] <CitrixNoob> oh i also have Active write back enabled[19:35:12] <David62277> tht shouldnt matter[19:36:40] <CitrixNoob> ok[19:36:52] <tabularasa> Anyone using hdx3d ?[19:36:58] <tabularasa> wondering what kind of FPS you are seeing inside of things[19:37:05] <tabularasa> i'm only getting like 8FPS in that heaven demo[19:37:07] <David62277> citrixnoob... shows up in my 7.5 environment[19:37:11] <tabularasa> but a good 24fps and such in google earth[19:37:15] <David62277> not i tabularasa[19:37:30] <David62277> how much ram you giving the machine?[19:37:36] <David62277> video ram i mean[19:37:57] <tabularasa> in xenserver?[19:38:01] <tabularasa> or in the CTX policy?[19:38:16] <tabularasa> but, good call[19:38:18] <David62277> like how much video ram is given to the desktop?[19:38:18] <tabularasa> i'll bump that up[19:38:26] <tabularasa> default[19:38:30] <David62277> idk where to set that but im assuming you can[19:38:36] <tabularasa> its in a policy[19:39:57] <tabularasa> nope, i have it set to max already[19:40:02] <CitrixNoob> David62277 are you using MS Folder Redirection or Citrix[19:40:05] <CitrixNoob> ?[19:40:09] <David62277> citrix[19:40:34] <David62277> if youre using ms it probably wont show up[19:40:45] <CitrixNoob> i am not[19:40:56] <David62277> if it is in a citrix policy it should show[19:41:00] <CitrixNoob> i am migrating users over from MS roaming Profles[19:41:10] <David62277> why?[19:41:40] <David62277> that sounds like it could cause a multitude of issues...[19:41:48] <CitrixNoob> ok[19:42:03] <David62277> at least leave out ntuser.dat[19:42:33] <CitrixNoob> yeah it is[19:42:48] <David62277> cause all the policies they had in their ms roaming profile... would be in hkcu\software\policies... then those would merge with the policies you have in the new environment[19:43:28] <CitrixNoob> ok[19:43:29] <David62277> you check the hklm policies key?[19:43:40] <CitrixNoob> for?[19:43:44] *** vroomanj_ is now known as vroomanj[19:44:58] <David62277> on one of your vms which should have folder redirection via citrix policy look at hklm\software\policies\citrix\<number>\user\userprofilemanagerhdx[19:45:10] <CitrixNoob> all users on xenapp 5 with apps and desktops separated and i have 5 GPO's relating to the MS profile of each setup which is annoying because my help desk has to reset all 5 to get a users working when they have issues[19:45:36] <David62277> do you have a test user?[19:45:39] <CitrixNoob> i am trying to consolidate the apps onto the same shared desktop so i one have one[19:45:41] <David62277> we can try something[19:45:58] <CitrixNoob> yeah that where i am seeing the issue[19:46:04] <David62277> ok log him off[19:46:20] <David62277> then go to your profile store share[19:46:31] <David62277> rename his profile to whatever it is .old[19:46:56] <David62277> logon and get a fresh new profile... check director... log him off and back on... check director again[19:47:01] <David62277> see if you still see the issue[19:47:19] <David62277> if you dont then it is something with the old ms profile[19:47:42] *** MKeigher has joined #Citrix[19:47:52] <CitrixNoob> ok logging back in now[19:47:52] *** StirCwazy has joined #Citrix[19:47:53] *** StirCwazy has left #Citrix[19:48:20] <David62277> for the first time? if so watch your profile store... a new profile should be created[19:48:34] <CitrixNoob> just got created[19:48:54] <David62277> ok check director (remember it may take a min for it to catch up)[19:49:40] <CitrixNoob> yep watching now[19:49:46] *** Synthead has quit IRC[19:49:59] <David62277> which folders are you redirecting?[19:50:39] <David62277> if you open powershell we can check the paths real easy[19:51:10] <David62277> like if you're redirecting my documents and want to check the path... type in: [environment]::getfolderpath("mydocuments")[19:51:29] <David62277> desktop is desktop, start menu is startmenu[19:51:59] <David62277> appdata(roaming) - type in $env:appdata[19:52:16] <David62277> appdata local - type in $env:localappdata[19:52:42] <David62277> what does director say?[19:53:23] <CitrixNoob> not available[19:53:37] <David62277> if you check the paths with powershell are they right?[19:53:53] <CitrixNoob> but running the command it points to the user correct path on the network shar[19:53:53] <CitrixNoob> e[19:54:30] <David62277> are you doing a loopback merge or something? might be another policy conflicting[19:54:51] <CitrixNoob> i do have loop back on[19:55:04] <CitrixNoob> i will look at that policy[19:55:05] *** StirCwazy has joined #Citrix[19:55:08] <David62277> are your citrix policies in gpo or in studio?[19:55:30] <David62277> if in studio gpo will always trump if there is some sort of conflict[19:55:48] <David62277> studio policies are basically local machine policies[19:55:54] <David62277> so gpo trumps[19:56:04] <CitrixNoob> GPO that's where i was advised to use them[19:56:09] <David62277> ok good[19:56:20] <|Atum|> i spun up 5 win81 desktops with pvs, 3 boot, 2 bluescreen. same host ...derfq[19:56:38] <David62277> so if you have loopback merge enabled (replace you should be good) a policy applied to the user might come in[19:56:43] <CitrixNoob> installed Group policy manager on my main DDC[19:57:09] <CitrixNoob> you mean change it to replace?[19:57:33] <David62277> merge = policies applied to the user in their normal ou will also apply[19:57:44] <tabularasa> unless its the same policy and then the loopback will win[19:58:01] <StirCwazy> I need some clarification on a licensing question for a debate I'm having at work. We're running User/Device licenses. If a USER A accesses an app on PC A, a license is consumed. If USER B logs into PC A that license is converted into a device license. If USER A accesses an app on PC B, does USER A now have a device license and PC A still has a consumed[19:58:01] <StirCwazy> device license?[19:58:50] <StirCwazy> errr last part, USER A has a user license while PC A still has a device license.[19:59:16] <David62277> something like that stircwazy... though im not sure if licensing picks up on it that quick[19:59:32] <David62277> can always test it out... there are cli tools to check on the licenses[20:00:08] <StirCwazy> Well here's our scenario. We have a generic login (don't get me started on it) that is used by quite a few people.[20:00:50] <StirCwazy> Let's say that's USER B.. So USER B is logging into quite a few computers by quite a few different people.[20:01:10] <CitrixNoob> oh[20:01:26] *** Synthead has joined #Citrix[20:01:49] <David62277> id assume user B would be consuming a user license then[20:01:50] <CitrixNoob> ok i changed it[20:01:52] <StirCwazy> USER B is going to be going away and everyone is required to use their own credentials. In theory, that's going to boost our license count usage since now all of those users will consume licenses along with the devices being used.[20:02:01] <CitrixNoob> to replace[20:02:07] <David62277> right stircwazy[20:02:17] <StirCwazy> k, just verifying, thank you David62277[20:02:45] <David62277> lots of people complained about that user/device model... til citrix finally brought back concurrent[20:03:45] <David62277> might want to look into it... lets say you have 5000 users but at any given time you only have 2000 connections... it might work out better to have 2000 concurrent licenses vs 5000[20:03:51] <David62277> user/device[20:05:46] <David62277> stircwazy any difference?[20:08:07] <David62277> wrote a powershell script to fix a little annoyance... we have 300 Win7 virtual desktops in our XD environment. I've updated the vda from 7.0 to 7.1 and now to 7.5. some havent been on in so long they still show as having the 7.0 vda installed... so my script gets a list of all of those, individually places machines in maint mode, starts em, waits for the VDA version to change, shuts em down, and turns off maint mode[20:12:48] <CitrixNoob> nice[20:16:53] *** MKeigher has quit IRC[20:16:58] *** CitrixNoob_ has joined #Citrix[20:18:07] <CitrixNoob_> i hate websense[20:18:09] <CitrixNoob_> lol[20:19:10] *** CitrixNoob has quit IRC[20:19:14] <CitrixNoob_> changed policy replicated to all sites testing now[20:23:23] <CitrixNoob_> still nothing[20:24:59] <CitrixNoob_> maybe i should stick with MS Roaming profiles and try to consolidate it down to one[20:41:28] *** Synthead has quit IRC[20:47:46] <CitrixNoob_> yeah not sure what i have done but it still doesnt show up[20:48:06] *** kiste has joined #Citrix[20:51:28] *** CitrixNoob_ has quit IRC[20:51:49] *** CitrixNoob has joined #Citrix[20:52:20] <CitrixNoob> ok David62277 i got nothing[20:52:53] <CitrixNoob> thanks for your help[20:56:54] <|Atum|> Pop quiz: You have an app that stores settings in C:\AppName\config\settings.properties in 2008R2/XenApp. You solve it by... (A) Using Citrix App Streaming (B) Using AppV (C) Telling them "too bad, so sad" (D) Praying the vendor has a solution (E) Other[21:08:20] *** kiste has quit IRC[21:20:11] <CitrixNoob> what version of XA ?[21:20:52] <CitrixNoob> |Atum|: B[21:34:05] <CitrixNoob> anyone else experience the Lync Icon bug in HSD deployment[21:34:30] <CitrixNoob> where when lync start on log in the icon is one of the other office icons[21:34:52] <CitrixNoob> in my case the icon shows as excel[21:41:44] *** tsifnori is now known as ironfist[21:46:45] <CitrixNoob> when i create a printer policy in citrix i thought there was one to point to our current print server where i installed the printer server stuff from citrix[21:50:55] <|Atum|> CitrixNoob: are you excluding iconcache from UPM?[21:57:32] <uncon> tabularasa: http://www.quakejs.com/[22:03:20] <tabularasa> launching[22:04:43] <tabularasa> bah, i gotta go[22:04:49] <tabularasa> pick up the kids time[22:04:53] <tabularasa> have a nice weekend everyone[22:08:33] *** deunnero has left #Citrix[22:08:59] <CitrixNoob> i dont thing[22:09:15] <CitrixNoob> it was happening on the master image before i even published the desktop[22:10:24] <CitrixNoob> the fix i found is stop lync for starting at login[22:10:37] <|Atum|> so time for the app-v question :). If I have an app with a config file located at C:\MyApp\Myapp.config, is it possible to publish this app to users but allow each user to maintain their own state of Myapp.config ?[22:10:46] <|Atum|> i know appstreaming could do it...[22:11:02] <|Atum|> i just havent used app-v outside of the citrix lab at synergy...[22:12:46] <CitrixNoob> i am not sure either[22:22:10] *** r0vert has quit IRC[22:26:04] <CitrixNoob> |Atum|: you may have missed my question earlier[22:27:12] <CitrixNoob> in director i notice that when i login a user for the first time i see under their account under details personalization that Redirected Folders shows up but after they have logged out and back in the redirected folder shows as not available is that normal when using UPM and Steaming[22:34:29] <|Atum|> doesnt sound normal[22:35:13] <|Atum|> http://blogs.technet.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-00-96-30/Where-App_2D00_V-Puts-Stuff1.1.png seems to indicate AppData\Local\Microsoft\AppV\Client will contain the changes I'm wanting[22:43:35] <CitrixNoob> cool[22:43:46] <CitrixNoob> yeah thats what was said earlier[22:44:33] <CitrixNoob> i am wondering if it is even necessary to migrate the MS roaming profile when the user first logs in[22:45:07] <CitrixNoob> i think that is what is causing the issue[22:48:36] <David62277> sorry had to leave for a meeting and then had to train someone on how to use sharefile... and then fill out my goals worksheet for next year... fun fun[22:48:52] <David62277> still no dice CitrixNoob?[22:49:16] <|Atum|> CitrixNoob: upm can migrate roaming or upm profiles afaik[22:50:03] <David62277> what i would do is a logon script that copies stuff from the old profile to the new, but really you should be redirecting most of that stuff anyways[22:50:45] <David62277> but if you dont redirect appdata... you could copy stuff that the user would want... like outlook signatures and stuff like that[22:51:41] <David62277> then once it has copied throw a done.txt file or something on the old profile and have the logon script skip the copy if it sees it[23:13:38] <kevjr> Where in netscaler 10x do you enable allowing users to change passwords[23:13:44] <kevjr> I dont see it under authentication[23:14:57] <kevjr> ahhh[23:15:04] <kevjr> Its hidden until you select SSL[23:15:06] <kevjr> makes sense.[23:15:31] *** jimb has joined #Citrix[23:16:22] <jimb> hiya[23:16:51] <CitrixNoob> no problem thanks for the advise[23:16:52] <jimb> i noticed when i log into my web interface server with chrome, it sits for a long time at what i think is client detection. on ie, not so.[23:17:20] <jimb> i tried disabling client detection completely but it still seems to hang there. anyone know what it is doing?[23:19:56] *** GentileBen has joined #Citrix[23:21:23] <jimb> delay is at the spinning wheel "one moment please..."[23:21:37] <CitrixNoob> on the Phone with MS[23:21:48] <CitrixNoob> figures they love calling at the end of my day[23:23:10] <CitrixNoob> i think i will try the login script on monday[23:26:29] <CitrixNoob> would it have anything to do with the remote desktop services profile tab being pointed to the roaming profile still?[23:37:47] *** kevjr has quit IRC[23:39:01] *** CitrixNoob has quit IRC[23:39:48] *** bookem88 has quit IRC[23:52:45] *** r0vert has joined #Citrix[23:56:08] *** r0vert has quit IRC