November 12, 2014 
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can i copy and paste it ?[12:01:56] *** face has quit IRC[12:30:33] *** klick_ has quit IRC[12:47:27] *** klick_ has joined #Citrix[13:06:16] *** johnelse has quit IRC[13:09:44] *** johnelse has joined #Citrix[13:24:33] *** Bsony_ has joined #Citrix[13:26:18] *** Bsony has quit IRC[13:34:03] *** siddharthv is now known as siddharthv_away[13:48:38] *** Bsony_ has quit IRC[13:51:05] *** Bsony_ has joined #Citrix[14:06:18] *** Bsony__ has joined #Citrix[14:09:12] *** Bsony_ has quit IRC[14:35:29] <Zax1> any one home ? h33333111110 ?[14:35:54] <tabularasa> here now[14:36:18] <tabularasa> an email to customers about the SSL thing?[14:36:20] <tabularasa> no, we haven't done that[14:37:44] <rr> heartbleed?[14:41:26] <cy[]> i hope you mean schannel.[14:41:45] <cy[]> if you have customers that you have to contact over heartbleed you probably should quit,)[14:42:31] *** Booyah has joined #Citrix[14:42:54] *** Booyah has quit IRC[14:48:45] *** ghostmediapro has quit IRC[14:49:08] <tabularasa> heh[14:50:31] *** MartynKeigher has joined #Citrix[14:53:21] <uncon> MasterXen: you want to use your NS as a web server?[14:58:09] <WyW> working with citrix producs is quite painful at times[14:58:38] <WyW> one day you're trying to set up kerberos/saml2 for netscaler, next day toying around with AppDNA[14:58:45] <WyW> my head hurts[15:01:53] <WyW> plus preparing a HLD for a customer on XA7.6 environment with all the bells and whistles[15:02:07] <WyW> at the same time this is pretty cool[15:05:17] *** Guest89707 has joined #Citrix[15:20:14] <Grelot> anyway to know the bandwith used by a citrix session[15:20:25] <WyW> hdx insight?[15:22:27] <tabularasa> hdxwatcher[15:23:34] *** kcorcoran has joined #Citrix[15:25:11] <kcorcoran> i have 2 xenapp 6.5 servers (physical) and my VM containing the datastore, license server and web interface was inadvertantly delete (no backup). does anyone know if i can simply create a farm and move the XA servers to the new farm? I assume I will only need to recreate my published applications and policies. am i missing anything else?[15:25:22] <kcorcoran> or any better ideas to get users back online?[15:25:33] <tabularasa> yes, you can move them to a new farm very easily[15:25:52] <tabularasa> however, you will need to create that farm first with another xa box[15:26:10] <tabularasa> don't have the DB backed up?[15:26:36] <WyW> I guessed earlier whether it would be possible to restore data from the LHC :)[15:26:45] <WyW> but that's a bit far fetched[15:27:04] <tabularasa> not that i'm aware of[15:27:18] <WyW> I remember that someone has done that[15:27:38] <WyW> but that's almost impossible[15:27:55] <WyW> can you powershell in to the XAs?[15:28:04] <WyW> and gather data about the published apps and such[15:28:11] <WyW> before re-creating a new farm?[15:28:34] <kcorcoran> i can RDP into the XA's without isse..[15:28:49] <kcorcoran> who would i capture the published app data?[15:28:54] <WyW> kcorcoran: is IMA still running?[15:29:03] <kcorcoran> unfortunately no datastore backup[15:29:19] <WyW> what happens if you start powershell and run "add-pssnapin citrix*"[15:29:21] <kcorcoran> WyWm are you asking if UIMA is running on the XA servers?[15:30:00] <WyW> and after that run "get-xaapplication"[15:30:09] <WyW> and see if it prints out your published apps?[15:30:49] <kcorcoran> will try in a moment...[15:31:05] <WyW> because if you get that data out, you could then restore the published applications back in to the newly created farm relatively easily using new-xaapplication cmdlet[15:31:30] <WyW> one important question is of course whether you had 2 apps or 250 apps[15:31:44] <WyW> re-creating two apps manually is no biggie, creating 250 is[15:32:04] <kcorcoran> not many, approximately 10-15...so recreating that won't be bad...had some policies as well[15:33:10] <tabularasa> yeah, not worth screwing with, imo[15:33:15] <tabularasa> just build a new farm, move the XA boxes, be done[15:33:18] <WyW> ok... then it shouldn't be that bad[15:33:25] <WyW> but I'd run the powershell command[15:33:37] <WyW> just to get a list of stuff you used to have before that crash[15:33:51] <WyW> such a small effort[15:34:00] <WyW> and you need to log in to the boxes anyhow :D[15:36:04] <kcorcoran> will be hitting you up in a few as soon as i confirm remote access...appreciate the insight thus far!![15:36:58] <rsrevord> morning[15:37:49] *** chrisp1114 has quit IRC[15:38:26] <tabularasa> morning[15:39:54] <kcorcoran> WyW, i ran add-pssnapin citrix (on one of the XA servers) and got the error message tge powershell snap-in 'citrix' is not installed. any insight?[15:40:09] <kcorcoran> assume i need to load something first[15:40:28] <WyW> "add-pssnapin citrix*"[15:40:33] <WyW> with the star?[15:40:48] <tabularasa> add-pssnapin c*[15:40:51] <tabularasa> i'm lazy[15:41:03] <kcorcoran> sorry, missed the *, been up all night restoring this envinronment...runing on fumes...its loading now[15:42:41] <kcorcoran> if i run get-xaaplication, errors with citrix commands must be executed at the citrix server or using remoting.[15:42:48] <kcorcoran> i am checking now to see if IMA is running[15:43:22] <kcorcoran> hmm, it shows ima running.[15:43:46] <WyW> you're on one of the XA boxes?[15:43:46] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[15:43:54] <kcorcoran> yes[15:44:01] <kcorcoran> logged in as domain admin[15:44:07] <tabularasa> it may be too late[15:44:11] <WyW> yeah...[15:44:20] <WyW> do you have the appcenter on that server?[15:44:31] <WyW> if so, what does that report if you try to discover apps[15:44:40] <kcorcoran> fails...unfortunately[15:44:47] <WyW> might be that you just need to create everything from scratch[15:44:58] <WyW> what does command "qfarm"[15:45:00] <WyW> report?[15:45:12] <Grelot> thanks i'm gonna check hdxwatcher I don't have hdx insight[15:45:17] <WyW> does it list the farm servers and[15:45:31] <WyW> does it show a star behind one of the listed servers?[15:46:03] <WyW> might be the quickest way to get your system back online to recreate the farm...[15:46:03] <kcorcoran> qfarm states i must be an admin to run this application..makes sense as far as it knows the farm is gone.[15:46:35] <WyW> what if you run the powershell / cmd as an admin?[15:46:40] <kcorcoran> i think i will just recreate...what is the best approach? i have aleready created a new db....assume there is a chfarm coommand?[15:47:00] <WyW> you can use the XenApp Role manager on xa 6.x[15:47:00] <tabularasa> change the mf20.dsn to point to the new server and DB[15:47:18] <tabularasa> then run dsmaint config and point it to the mf20.dsn with SQL username/password[15:47:25] <tabularasa> be a man[15:47:28] <tabularasa> ;)[15:47:33] <kcorcoran> lol[15:47:51] <kcorcoran> im a walking zombie right now...cant keep eyes open..i just want this online..lol[15:47:55] <kcorcoran> appreciate all the help!![15:48:05] <tabularasa> spread the word of this awesome channel[15:48:21] <WyW> role manager might be more zombie friendly :D[15:49:28] <tabularasa> thats true[15:49:29] <tabularasa> heh[15:49:42] <kcorcoran> using the server role manager, do i reomve from farm and then add?[15:49:43] <WyW> mmmmrghh braiins[15:49:58] <WyW> kcorcoran: remove from farm and then create a new farm[15:50:08] <kcorcoran> crap, tells me i cant leave farm, access denied[15:50:15] *** |Atum| has quit IRC[15:50:27] <WyW> run as admin?[15:50:32] *** |Atum| has joined #Citrix[15:50:52] <kcorcoran> domain admin, but recall it doesn't know any farm admins as there is no farm[15:50:57] *** Bsony__ has quit IRC[15:51:14] <WyW> I mean, right click on the role manager and "run as admin"[15:51:22] *** Bsony__ has joined #Citrix[15:51:25] <WyW> if you have UAC enabled or other restrictions[15:51:29] <WyW> that might mess stuff up[15:52:03] <kcorcoran> same results...[15:52:25] <kcorcoran> no, uac is disable[15:52:27] <WyW> have you restarted the servers at all?[15:52:39] <WyW> probably not if you have IMA running?[15:52:41] <kcorcoran> yes[15:52:53] <WyW> restarted and still IMA running?[15:52:56] <kcorcoran> should i stop the IMA then try the remove farm?[15:53:04] <WyW> on which rollup level ary ou?[15:53:07] <WyW> *are you?[15:53:18] <kcorcoran> i think this was straight 65[15:54:00] <tabularasa> net stop imaservice[15:54:05] <tabularasa> dsmaint config[15:54:06] <tabularasa> :)[15:54:57] <WyW> :D[15:55:10] <kcorcoran> i take it i shouldn't try the dsmain command?[15:55:21] <tabularasa> did you already make a DB?[15:55:27] <kcorcoran> yes.[15:55:45] <tabularasa> c:\program files (x86)\citrix\independent management arch\[15:55:48] <tabularasa> edit mf20.dsn[15:55:53] <tabularasa> change the shit to your shit[15:55:54] <tabularasa> cmd[15:55:56] <tabularasa> net stop imaservice[15:56:02] <tabularasa> dsmaint config /?[15:56:40] <tabularasa> its like dsmaint config /username:sqluser /password:blahblah /dsn:"C:\program files (x86)\citrix\.......\mf20.dsn"[15:56:43] <tabularasa> net start imaservice[15:56:44] <tabularasa> done[15:57:45] *** laimheloc_ has joined #Citrix[15:57:56] <kcorcoran> theres hardly any info in the mf20 file[15:58:05] <tabularasa> yeah, its servername and DB[15:58:09] <tabularasa> its pretty simple[15:58:28] *** klick_ has quit IRC[15:58:35] *** Lajo has quit IRC[15:59:19] *** laimheloc has quit IRC[16:00:26] <kcorcoran> ok, i stopped ima, edditted the file and attempting to start ima...we'll see[16:00:34] *** deunnero has joined #Citrix[16:00:49] <tabularasa> did you successfully run dsmaint config?[16:02:50] <Grelot> hehe that famous ima not starting[16:03:27] <kcorcoran> just ran the dsmain command and it just bounced back to the prompt...not sure anything happened[16:05:51] <kcorcoran> think i am missing something on the command....dsmaint config /username:*** /password:*** /dsn:"c:\program fiels (x86)\citrix\indendent management architecture\mf20.dsm"[16:06:20] <tabularasa> nope, thats it[16:06:25] <tabularasa> if it didn't error out, you are good[16:06:27] <tabularasa> now start IMA[16:06:29] <kcorcoran> what if i uninstall xenapp and reinstalled?[16:06:32] <tabularasa> where did that DB come from?[16:06:35] <tabularasa> no, don't do that[16:06:40] <tabularasa> its EASY to move farms, trust me[16:07:16] <kcorcoran> i created the db on the new datastore...basically installed sql and created the db[16:07:40] <tabularasa> OH, you haven't made the farm yet[16:07:49] <tabularasa> yeah, thats not going to work[16:07:57] <kcorcoran> lol.[16:08:01] <tabularasa> try, net stop IMA[16:08:09] <kcorcoran> stopping[16:08:31] <tabularasa> then use the roll manager to leave the farm and create a new one[16:08:47] <tabularasa> then when the farm is created, you can do the dsmaint trick on the second server to add it to the new farm[16:08:50] <WyW> (as I tried to instruct above ;) )[16:08:51] <kcorcoran> can't leave the farm, it fails[16:08:57] <tabularasa> even with IMA stopped?[16:08:58] <WyW> even if IMA is stopped?[16:09:00] <kcorcoran> i stated that prior.[16:09:21] <tabularasa> WyW: i missed that it was a blank DB[16:09:27] <kcorcoran> when i attempt to leave the farm it states access denied, which makes sense as it doesn't know the domain admin is a farm admin...no farm currently exists[16:09:35] <WyW> yeah... no wonder tabularasa[16:09:41] <tabularasa> ok, i've had this happen before.. one sec[16:09:53] <WyW> tabularasa: I think it's XA 6.5 RTM[16:10:11] <tabularasa> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Citrix\IMA\Status][16:10:11] <tabularasa> "Joined"=dword:00000000[16:10:13] <tabularasa> then[16:10:18] <tabularasa> C:\Program Files (x86)\Citrix\XenApp\ServerConfig\XenAppConfigConsole.exe /ExecutionMode:Leave[16:10:26] <tabularasa> do that[16:10:30] <WyW> there were problems with farm stuff... I remember battling with stuff with pvs[16:10:32] <tabularasa> then run roll manager and create a new farm[16:10:55] <kcorcoran> okay, i can try that...currently ima is stopped...should i start that first?[16:11:12] <WyW> that should do[16:11:25] <tabularasa> nah[16:11:34] <WyW> need to run[16:11:41] <tabularasa> later dude[16:11:47] <WyW> good luck kcorcoran with your problem[16:12:51] <kcorcoran> wyw, thanks again!![16:12:59] <Grelot> can you make an average session bandwith with hdxwatcher ?[16:13:03] <kcorcoran> okay, completed the commands..came back successful[16:13:04] <tabularasa> no[16:13:16] *** stormlight has quit IRC[16:13:19] <Grelot> I need hdxinsight for that ?[16:13:24] <tabularasa> yeah[16:13:25] <Grelot> (so a netscaler) ?[16:13:30] <tabularasa> or, netflow[16:13:47] <kcorcoran> tabularasa, do i attempt role manager now?[16:14:05] <kcorcoran> perfecrt...[16:14:08] <kcorcoran> looking bettern ow[16:14:24] <tabularasa> good[16:15:38] <kcorcoran> building new farm...fingers crossed.[16:15:53] <kcorcoran> assume i would need to run the same farm removal steps on the other XA server?[16:16:15] <tabularasa> yeah, it won't hurt[16:16:41] <kcorcoran> good news only have approx 10-15 apps...policies will be a bit of a hassle but at least i can get users on[16:18:12] <kcorcoran> okay, so i follow the logic, i had to change the mf20 file, dsmain command and then perform the farm removal...do i need to do all those steps on the other server? or can any be avoided?[16:18:32] <tabularasa> you can just change the regkey, and leave the farm[16:18:36] <tabularasa> then use the role manager to join the new farm[16:18:38] <tabularasa> that's it[16:18:55] <kcorcoran> don't have to mess with dsmaint[16:18:58] <tabularasa> nah[16:19:13] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[16:19:31] <kcorcoran> xa server rebooting now...fingers crossed ;)[16:22:58] *** gOODbOY has joined #Citrix[16:23:53] *** m3thod has quit IRC[16:23:59] *** stormlight has quit IRC[16:24:28] *** m3thod has joined #Citrix[16:26:02] *** rr has quit IRC[16:26:11] <kcorcoran> is there a quick way to confirm the XA server is pointing to the license server?[16:26:37] <tabularasa> just set an XA policy for it[16:26:50] <kcorcoran> i did, but how can i confirm it is working correctly?[16:27:23] <tabularasa> looks on the license server to see if you are pulling licenses when you log in[16:28:26] <kcorcoran> still building a desktop to test if i can logon to the farm as a user...recall the environment was destroyed...i mean the whole thing, AD inclsuive...its been a nightmare for the past 48 hours[16:50:55] *** xSnakeDoctor has joined #Citrix[16:57:23] <uncon> man.... who was it that was trying to setup client certificate authentication on the NS for only specific pages?[16:58:47] <uncon> MasterXen: was that you!? wake up![16:58:59] <tabularasa> heh[16:59:00] <uncon> i've got great news... (hopefully not too late)[17:01:42] <uncon> geez, 71MB of logs for irc....[17:01:55] <uncon> i feel like i should be rolling those[17:03:11] <tabularasa> 85M /home/tabularasa/irclogs[17:07:03] *** KaiForce has joined #Citrix[17:08:18] <tabularasa> thats not right..[17:08:39] <KaiForce> Is it difficult to make the Receiver act like the Program Neighborhood Agent - i.e. pass through the local user's credentials and populate their start menu?[17:12:43] <David62277> good morning[17:13:01] <David62277> working from home today... i think i caught ebola[17:13:03] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[17:13:16] <uncon> David62277: geez, that's horrible[17:13:20] *** Bsony__ has quit IRC[17:13:20] <uncon> you're likely to die[17:13:25] <David62277> i feel like crap[17:13:37] <uncon> i think you better hop on a plane[17:13:41] <David62277> i think i got a 50/50 shot[17:13:45] <David62277> ;)[17:13:53] <uncon> visit a lot of day cares and public places[17:13:57] <uncon> just to be safe[17:14:18] <David62277> lol if im going down im taking people with me?[17:14:51] <uncon> i guess that's the idea... make sure to get quarantined[17:14:57] <uncon> then, if you live, you can sue[17:15:03] <uncon> *rolls eyes*[17:15:27] <David62277> i am... only other person exposed is my wife... and im pretty sure she is the one who gave it to me... she was sick last week a couple days[17:16:13] <tabularasa> heh[17:16:21] *** Jordy has joined #Citrix[17:16:41] <Jordy> Hello, i'm having some audio redirection issues, the sound from youtube is really choppy, which policy should I adjust?[17:16:41] *** |Atum| has quit IRC[17:16:58] *** |Atum| has joined #Citrix[17:16:59] <Jordy> been trying some but none seem to solve it (xenapp 7.6, latest Citrix reciever/ Flash Player)[17:17:00] <David62277> kaiforce... you have to install sso, and i think there is a registry entry you put somewhere (forget if it is on the SF servers or what) that will populate the start menu and put the published apps in the folder you specify[17:17:22] <David62277> jordy... sounds like a flash redirection issue[17:17:37] *** stormlight has quit IRC[17:17:59] <Jordy> I'll try 'render on client'[17:18:13] <David62277> what version of xd or xa are you running?[17:18:56] <David62277> and what is the client that is connecting?[17:19:37] <David62277> some clients wont do flash redirection, and i know XD 7.5 vda has some issue that they released a hotfix for that corrects the flash redirection[17:24:46] <tabularasa> |Atum|: you around?[17:28:54] <KaiForce> David62277: Ok, thanks. I'll try specifying the store in the command line and see what happens...[17:32:12] *** qakhan has joined #Citrix[17:32:20] <qakhan> Hi all[17:33:27] *** Jordy has quit IRC[17:34:16] <qakhan> i am using Citrix Xenapp 6.5 i have published some apps which are working fine.[17:35:50] <qakhan> but some of windows 8 users are getting "Reconnecting" "Click on icon for menu" message and app is freezing[17:36:55] <David62277> qakhan we had a similar issue with Yoga laptops using port replicators[17:37:05] <David62277> the firmware version was the fix[17:37:42] <David62277> also make sure you're using the latest receiver client[17:39:15] <qakhan> i just updated the receiver 4.1.200 from 4.1.0[17:39:44] <qakhan> and this issue is on different desktop[17:46:48] <tabularasa> you on R04?[17:46:55] <tabularasa> which rollup are you on?[17:47:00] <tabularasa> because pre R02, that was a huge problem[17:47:39] <qakhan> tabularasa are you talking about citrix receiver?[17:48:42] <tabularasa> xenapp 6.5[17:50:19] <qakhan> yes it is xenapp 6.5[17:53:26] *** kiste has left #Citrix[17:56:46] *** P2Vme has joined #Citrix[18:12:38] *** calum_ has joined #Citrix[18:19:22] <David62277> still waiting to hear back from citrix support on a weird issue... citrix policies in gpo are not listed under the settings tab... but i can see them if i edit the gpo[18:19:56] <David62277> saw a thing about exporting the policy, and then importing it is supposed to fix it, but that didnt work[18:20:06] <David62277> even creating a brand new policy doesnt work[18:30:21] *** stormlight has joined #Citrix[18:47:30] <qakhan> David62277 are you talking about the same issue which i mentioned?[19:13:42] <David62277> no[19:13:58] <David62277> before i was... when i mentioned the yoga[19:14:34] <David62277> the company i work for bought a ton of those POS laptops and the port replicator had major issues with keeping a connection.[19:14:51] <tabularasa> just got back from Yoga[19:14:53] <tabularasa> :)[19:14:55] <tabularasa> ironically[19:14:58] <David62277> lol[19:15:32] <David62277> we were seeing a lot of session interruptions and the vast majority were coming from the yoga laptops running windows 8[19:15:51] <David62277> but only when they were hard wired via the craptastic port replicator[19:16:26] <tabularasa> qakhan: what Hotfix Rollup Pack are you on?[19:16:37] <David62277> so anyways... qakhan... the windows 8 machines you have that are having session reliability kick in on... are they all the same hardware?[19:17:23] *** Zax1_ has joined #Citrix[19:18:03] <David62277> id check the event viewer of the client machine and look for anything network related... which includes time sync messages... you see those happen on a disconnect/reconnect to the network. should be few and far between, so if you see a lot of them there is an issue on the client[19:18:25] <tabularasa> well, if hes not on R03 or higher, i'd start there[19:18:38] <David62277> wouldnt all clients have an issue then tabularasa?[19:18:53] *** Zax1 has quit IRC[19:19:03] *** Zax1_ is now known as Zax1[19:22:19] <tabularasa> yeah, ftmp, that would be true[19:22:33] <tabularasa> but, i know that issue existed pre R03... best start with the server side and test, imo[19:22:38] <tabularasa> i could be srong[19:22:40] <tabularasa> wrong[19:24:35] *** calum_ has joined #Citrix[19:24:48] *** calum_ has quit IRC[19:25:18] <qakhan> tabularasa i have this issue only on windows 8[19:25:25] <tabularasa> fair enough[19:25:26] <qakhan> win 7 users are good[19:25:31] <qakhan> they dont have any problem[19:27:12] *** Zax1 has quit IRC[19:32:22] <qakhan> 1 system is Dell Inspiron 660 and 2nd is Dell XPS 8700[19:33:28] <qakhan> Dell Inspiron 660 has windows 8 pro and Dell XPS 8700 has Windows 8.1[19:41:05] <gOODbOY> Can I ask some XenMobile questions[19:44:05] <tabularasa> sure[19:44:12] <tabularasa> but i'm not too sure how many in here have ascrewed with it[19:44:16] <tabularasa> JarianGibson has, i believe[19:44:34] <JarianGibson> yes[19:45:41] <|Atum|> tabularasa: now yes[19:47:08] <gOODbOY> XenMobile Question - why do we need a XenMobile NetScaler Connector for Exchange. My NetScaler is in the DMZ while the MDM and the AppC are in the trusted network[19:48:58] <JarianGibson> so mdm can do native email compliance but needs xnc or xmm[19:49:00] <JarianGibson> for native[19:50:10] <tabularasa> |Atum|: what was the trick for SSO with PNAgent and SF 2.x ?[19:50:26] <gOODbOY> dont know what u mean by native email compliance[19:50:46] <JarianGibson> native email client on device[19:50:48] <JarianGibson> not worx mail[19:51:40] <gOODbOY> ok seeems I am getting there . So if we use WorxMail then we don't need XNC[19:51:51] <JarianGibson> correct[19:52:10] <gOODbOY> Thanls Jarian, really appreciate that[19:52:43] <JarianGibson> no worries, anytime[19:52:51] <tabularasa> u da man, JarianGibson[19:52:56] <JarianGibson> thanks[19:52:59] <|Atum|> Not sure what you're wanting for 'the trick'[19:53:06] <|Atum|> If you use 2.6 you can do it natively[19:53:13] <tabularasa> you told me some registry key needed to be set[19:53:16] <tabularasa> i thought it was you[19:53:27] <tabularasa> i'm on 2.1, i think.. maybe 2.5... it don't work[19:53:29] <|Atum|> No probably SLJ[19:53:31] <|Atum|> its the app refresh time[19:54:05] <|Atum|> http://blogs.citrix.com/2014/11/11/optimizing-citrix-receiver-for-pre-launch-and-single-sign-on/[19:54:13] <tabularasa> ty[19:54:14] <|Atum|> 64 bit[19:54:16] <|Atum|> REG ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Citrix\Dazzle /f /v InitialRefreshMinMs /t REG_SZ /d 1[19:54:17] <tabularasa> i'll check it out[19:54:19] <|Atum|> REG ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Citrix\Dazzle /f /v InitialRefreshMaxMs /t REG_SZ /d 1[19:54:22] <|Atum|> thats not necessary tho[19:54:26] <|Atum|> depends on what you're trying to do really[19:55:45] <tabularasa> just sso with 12.1.44 to my storefront legacy site[19:55:46] <tabularasa> that's it[19:57:08] <JarianGibson> DAZZLE!!!!!!!!!!![19:57:16] <tabularasa> heh[19:57:27] <uncon> wow, throwback.... wednesday[19:59:16] <David62277> qakhan... check the event logs on the windows 8 machines... look for any indication that they are dropping network connection[19:59:41] *** kiste has joined #Citrix[20:00:10] <tabularasa> |Atum|: that goes on SF server?[20:00:13] <David62277> bet it is either a driver or firmware issue[20:01:15] <JarianGibson> when the world comes to an end, we will have cochroaches and dazzle[20:03:13] *** qakhan has quit IRC[20:03:16] <rsrevord> JarianGibson: no more dazzle[20:03:22] *** qakhan has joined #Citrix[20:03:31] <rsrevord> bad name[20:03:48] <JarianGibson> i will dazzle you[20:03:59] <rsrevord> give it your best shot buddy :P[20:04:57] <David62277> yeah dazzle = bad name[20:06:09] <David62277> sounds kinda flaming... then again receiver could be taken that way too[20:07:35] <David62277> shoulda named it rainbow streamer[20:08:41] <tabularasa> 543M irclogs[20:08:44] <tabularasa> yes, that makes more sense...[20:08:58] <JarianGibson> going back into my hole for event prep[20:15:43] <tabularasa> summit?[20:15:49] <tabularasa> JarianGibson ^--[20:15:54] <JarianGibson> choice event tomorrow[20:16:01] <tabularasa> you going to summit?[20:16:04] <JarianGibson> idk[20:16:05] <tabularasa> and good luck and have fun[20:16:08] <JarianGibson> thanks[20:16:15] <JarianGibson> if going to summit will be 100% on my own[20:16:23] <JarianGibson> i am going indepdnent by the way[20:16:25] <tabularasa> don't CTPs get in free?[20:16:32] <JarianGibson> nope, but can attend[20:16:32] <tabularasa> "Free"[20:16:37] <JarianGibson> no meeting at summit[20:16:46] <tabularasa> 600 bucks is a lot on your own, imo[20:16:49] <tabularasa> and cool, man[20:16:55] <tabularasa> no CTP meeting at Summit?[20:16:58] <JarianGibson> not really, vegas is my issue[20:17:07] <tabularasa> when they heck are you guys picking new CTPs?[20:17:10] <tabularasa> its been like 2 years[20:17:16] <JarianGibson> not 2 years[20:17:22] <JarianGibson> last class was last year[20:17:32] <uncon> heh, "Inappropriate events seen on the secondary node"[20:17:44] <uncon> i'm scared to look... NSFW?[20:18:06] <tabularasa> JarianGibson: thought it was july 2012[20:18:10] <tabularasa> when you got picked[20:18:35] <tabularasa> uncon: ha![20:18:48] <JarianGibson> i thought it was 2013[20:18:51] <JarianGibson> hmm[20:19:03] <JarianGibson> time flies if it was 2012[20:19:20] <JarianGibson> remember ctps only added when spots are open[20:19:24] <JarianGibson> also[20:19:29] <tabularasa> i did not know that[20:19:35] <JarianGibson> so not a yearly thing[20:29:39] <rsrevord> the few the proud, and the abused by Citrix :)[20:30:39] <MasterXen> another week, another vulnerability - https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/MS14-066[20:34:18] <Grelot> 20:19 <JarianGibson> remember ctps only added when spots are open[20:34:29] <Grelot> what does that mean, when someone retire ?[20:34:44] <JarianGibson> retire, doesn’t renew, etc[20:34:49] <tabularasa> lots were added in your class[20:35:01] <JarianGibson> there was a lot of change during that time[20:35:51] *** Zax1 has joined #Citrix[20:36:02] <Grelot> I see[20:51:37] *** Lucasje has quit IRC[21:04:32] <qakhan> guys strange fix of reconnecting message[21:05:57] <qakhan> when i was getting reconnecting message there was an error in event viewer[21:06:42] <tabularasa> what error?[21:06:55] <qakhan> The Program WFICA32.EXE version 14.1.0.0 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed[21:07:31] <qakhan> i removed the network printer which was not accessible[21:07:42] <qakhan> and it fixed[21:08:47] <tabularasa> interesting[21:08:54] <qakhan> now i just restarted my system to verify does it still work or not[21:10:10] *** kiste has quit IRC[21:20:09] *** ghostmediapro has joined #Citrix[21:20:47] <ghostmediapro> Help openvpn on xenserver? for remote secure access[21:30:01] *** GentileBen has joined #Citrix[21:31:14] <WyW> ghostmediapro: run a vm on top of xenserver and route connections via that vm?[21:31:43] <WyW> or is that openvpn appliance?[21:32:11] *** GentileBen has quit IRC[21:32:29] *** GentileBen has joined #Citrix[21:34:55] *** Zax1 has quit IRC[21:35:01] *** P2Vme has quit IRC[21:44:51] *** _Abraham has joined #Citrix[21:44:58] *** SYS_NOOB has joined #Citrix[21:45:24] <_Abraham> hello everyone![21:45:30] <_Abraham> i have a question.. :D[21:45:56] <tabularasa> howdy[21:46:47] <ghostmediapro> WyW: i want the direct connection to the xenserver[21:47:26] <ghostmediapro> cloud openvpn server for secure clients, to remote connect like over a lan based network[21:48:06] <WyW> is that for xs management or other purpose?[21:48:31] <WyW> but installing openvpn on xs goes way beyond my expertise :D[21:48:38] <ghostmediapro> none xs, for other purpose, to remotely manage or admister[21:48:46] <_Abraham> if i have a netscaler do i need a separate appliance for a cloudbridge implementation?[21:48:53] <_Abraham> or just the license?[21:49:40] <tabularasa> appliance[21:50:29] <_Abraham> so i will need 2 appliances.. one on each side correct?[21:50:35] <tabularasa> corrrect[21:50:40] <tabularasa> correct even[21:51:52] <_Abraham> do you know how much does the smaller cloudbridge hardware appliance run for?[21:52:09] <tabularasa> well, you can do VPX for free with platinum licensing[21:52:22] <tabularasa> i believe[21:52:29] <tabularasa> 45Mbps VPX[21:52:36] <_Abraham> yeah but that will mean to have a local hypervisor at the customer branch..[21:52:48] <tabularasa> correct[21:53:13] <_Abraham> i can do VPX at the DC[21:53:39] <_Abraham> i just have no idea how much does their smaller hardware runs for[21:54:24] <tabularasa> looking[21:54:38] <tabularasa> no, my pricelist is really old[21:55:21] <_Abraham> CloudBridge 800 and CloudBridge 400 are available immediately through authorized Citrix resellers. Pricing starts at $5,000 for the CloudBridge 800 and at $3,500 for the CloudBridge 400.[21:55:36] <_Abraham> found that here.[21:55:37] <_Abraham> http://www.citrix.com/news/announcements/feb-2014/new-cloudbridge-appliances-simplify-life-in-the-branch-office.html[21:57:08] <_Abraham> now another question.. when you said the VPX does up to 45mbps is that throughput?[21:57:27] <_Abraham> or what it handles from the carrier?[21:57:52] <tabularasa> 45mbps throughput, license limited[21:57:57] <_Abraham> gotcha[21:58:04] <tabularasa> for those prices, hypervisor would be cheaper[21:58:26] <_Abraham> yeah.. this branch has only 6mpbs bandwidth.. for like 65+ users[21:58:40] <_Abraham> performance sucks lol[22:00:33] <ghostmediapro> WyW: what linux platform is closes to xenserver, centos, or redhat, 5 or 6?[22:01:03] *** PaulS_ has joined #Citrix[22:03:47] <_Abraham> btw thanks for the input Tabularasa[22:04:50] <PaulS_> Does any one know for remote users connecting through the citrix access gateway, what's the bandwidth requirement for it to work without interruptions? Got a user who is working remotely and not getting a good experience[22:06:08] <_Abraham> what is the bandwidth at the users remote location?[22:06:58] <PaulS_> Not sure, I I've worked from home before and I got a cable internet connection. It ran great[22:08:44] <_Abraham> I'd try asking the user or run a speedtest next time he is reporting an issue maybe?[22:11:26] <tabularasa> 6meg for 65+ users.. LOL[22:11:35] <tabularasa> i'd be suprised if that worked even WITH CB[22:11:53] <tabularasa> define "without interruptions"[22:12:01] <tabularasa> gets kicked off? latency? yes?[22:14:43] <PaulS_> interruptions like, the gray screen, spinning reconnecting wheel[22:15:15] <_Abraham> session reliability?[22:15:30] <_Abraham> sorry, is session reliability enabled?[22:15:55] <PaulS_> The user's connection was download: 5.46 mbps upload: 1.14mbps and ping was 33ms[22:16:05] *** damadhatter has quit IRC[22:16:37] <PaulS_> yes, session reliability is on.[22:16:38] <_Abraham> is he at his house or an office? or public network?[22:16:45] <PaulS_> house[22:17:08] <_Abraham> so there is no others users hogging all the bandwidth for him right?[22:17:25] <PaulS_> I would hope not[22:17:34] <_Abraham> hehe we can only hope :P[22:18:13] <_Abraham> for my personal experience, i have seen SR cause the gray screen and spinning reconnecting wheel even with a good connection[22:18:25] <WyW> ghostmediapro: I think it's based on FreeBSD[22:18:36] <_Abraham> as a matter of fact.. i try not to use SR[22:19:16] <WyW> ghostmediapro: I wouldn't even consider connecting straight to the hypervisor but I guess it's something you need to do[22:19:32] <PaulS_> I had the ceo call me yesterday from a hotel, she was seeing the gray screen while connected to the mobile hotspot from her phone. lol[22:19:37] <WyW> I hope someone can answer you... I'm not that deep in XS[22:20:05] <PaulS_> I just didn't know why she didn't just cough up the dough to use the hotel's wifi[22:20:39] <_Abraham> you can try disabling it via Citrix policy and under storefront>netscalerGW>Secure Ticket authority on the right panel[22:20:57] <PaulS_> I read somewhere that SR, having that enabled is even worser. Is that true?[22:21:22] <gOODbOY> Licensing : I am building a new XenApp 65 farm and have trial licenses for XenApp 76. Will this combination work or I have to get licenses for XenApp65[22:21:47] <_Abraham> i am under the same impression. but that is just my opinion lol, like i said. i try to disable it on all my environments[22:22:14] <_Abraham> licenses are different from 7.6 and 6.5[22:22:45] <PaulS_> I might have to try that. Hopefully the two remote users that works from home doesn't bitch about anything[22:23:13] <_Abraham> disabling it shouldnt affect any ongoing sessions.[22:23:22] <gOODbOY> so this combination will not work and to test XA65 we will have to get licenses for XA65[22:23:46] <_Abraham> you can see if they are connected using SR or not under the taskmanager on the users tab[22:24:12] <_Abraham> if it says protocol TCP-CGP is using SR. if it says TCP-ICA. its not using SR[22:24:14] <PaulS_> Is this in Director?[22:24:43] <_Abraham> on their session[22:24:53] <_Abraham> in windows taskmanager[22:25:38] <_Abraham> which version of XA or XD are you running?[22:25:45] <PaulS_> XD 7.5[22:25:49] <_Abraham> ok[22:29:04] <_Abraham> quick question.. have you tried the local app access?[22:29:12] <PaulS_> nope[22:30:25] <_Abraham> hehe[22:30:45] <_Abraham> me neither.. sounds cool tho[22:30:48] <gOODbOY> Thanks Guys - Tested now and my XenApp65 apps are launching using XenApp76 licenses, Qfarm shows load of 100[22:32:44] <_Abraham> sorry i was wrong :S[22:33:02] <PaulS_> I'm guessing I would have to disable session reliability connections?[22:33:02] <_Abraham> i tought those licenses were different :P[22:35:26] <gOODbOY> i too thought the same[22:38:46] *** GentileBen has quit IRC[22:45:50] <gOODbOY> Installing XenApp 65 - do i have to install all Roll up packs upto 4 or just install Roll Up pakc 4[22:46:22] *** kcorcoran has quit IRC[22:46:23] <PaulS_> What would log someone off for "inactivity" when in fact they were being active?[22:47:07] <Grelot> Watching a video maybe ?[22:47:31] <Grelot> looking a graph or something for a long time ^^[22:47:32] <PaulS_> How about just typing?[22:47:45] <Grelot> na, it won't consider it as idle[22:48:09] <PaulS_> is the idle timer under the citrix policies too?[22:49:50] <Grelot> if you mean disconnect for idling, yes[22:51:49] <_Abraham> how do you know it was inactivity the reason they got kicked out?[22:52:40] <_Abraham> maybe connection interruption?[22:53:35] <PaulS_> From the user, she supposedly said she was kicked out for inactivity[22:54:10] <PaulS_> I'm shadowing her sessions right now and every few minutes I see a black screen, lol.[22:56:32] *** qakhan has quit IRC[22:57:49] <PaulS_> Thanks for the help all, heading out.[22:59:06] *** damadhatter has joined #Citrix[23:00:05] <_Abraham> have a good one[23:02:07] *** PaulS_ has quit IRC[23:03:57] *** gOODbOY has quit IRC[23:36:32] <Grelot> http://www.citrix.com/tv/#videos/12520[23:36:52] <Grelot> I cannot believe usb redirection and file association are not in view yet[23:36:56] <Grelot> I need to check that[23:48:46] *** ghostmediapro has quit IRC