October 31, 2014 
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October 31, 2014 [00:02:40] *** klick_ has joined #Citrix[00:05:39] *** anto9 has quit IRC[00:15:00] *** klick_ has quit IRC[00:25:13] *** unop_ has joined #Citrix[00:51:24] *** MartynKeigher has joined #Citrix[00:56:29] *** mhz has quit IRC[01:02:53] *** xSnakeDoctor has quit IRC[01:38:01] <rsrevord> not bad at all[01:38:15] <rsrevord> question 1: who do you bug when nothing works[01:40:25] <|Atum|> lol[01:40:38] <|Atum|> citrix needs to get their web ui designers together[01:40:44] <rsrevord> nod[01:40:47] <|Atum|> Director ? nice looking ui[01:40:55] <|Atum|> log into appcontroller? Looking good on the login page[01:41:00] <|Atum|> log in...ok somewhat inconsistent but its ok[01:41:08] <|Atum|> log into netscaler 10.5? ok a bit different...[01:41:16] <|Atum|> log into ZDM... ok ya we jumped the shark[01:41:17] <|Atum|> :p[01:41:30] <rsrevord> LOL[01:41:49] <rsrevord> hey after tons of years we finally got a nice unified console for the xenapp stuff[01:42:00] <rsrevord> now your already bitching about the other consoles? come on give em a break[01:55:28] <|Atum|> oh and sharefile[01:55:35] <|Atum|> and dont get me started no podio[01:55:38] <|Atum|> i forgot they had that product[01:55:48] <|Atum|> until i got an email tonight about ALL THE GREAT PODIO enhancements[01:56:11] <rsrevord> heh[01:56:15] <rsrevord> i keep trying to use it[01:56:18] <rsrevord> mixed results[01:59:27] *** edsoncanto has joined #Citrix[02:22:21] *** hardlock has joined #Citrix[02:25:42] *** _hardlock has quit IRC[03:35:00] *** unop__ has joined #Citrix[03:35:03] *** unop_ has quit IRC[03:35:06] *** unop__ has quit IRC[03:35:22] *** unop_ has joined #Citrix[03:36:52] *** unop has quit IRC[03:37:10] *** unop_ is now known as unop[03:37:34] *** unop_ has joined #Citrix[04:36:32] *** unop has quit IRC[05:00:50] *** MasterXen has quit IRC[05:09:10] *** SYS_NOOb has quit IRC[05:14:51] *** MartynKeigher has quit IRC[05:23:26] *** mhz has joined #Citrix[06:19:56] <|Atum|> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr[06:20:23] <|Atum|> 7.5->7.6 upgrade sideways :\[06:33:31] *** hirogen has quit IRC[07:51:38] *** kiste has joined #Citrix[07:52:56] *** kiste1 has joined #Citrix[07:55:53] *** kiste has quit IRC[08:07:03] *** siddharthv_away is now known as siddharthv[08:07:20] *** rsrevord has quit IRC[08:07:54] *** rsrevord has joined #Citrix[09:40:36] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[10:06:58] *** r0vert has joined #Citrix[10:12:39] *** Lll has joined #Citrix[10:19:37] *** Lll has quit IRC[10:20:38] <Grelot> Hello guys, quick question, I just applied my licence file on top of my evaluation licences[10:21:24] <Grelot> But I'm still using my evaluation license right now. Is it waiting my evaluation license to finish before using my enterprise license?[10:21:33] *** klick_ has joined #Citrix[10:21:37] <Grelot> Xenapp 6.5[10:27:00] *** m3thod has quit IRC[10:27:29] *** m3thod has joined #Citrix[10:43:01] *** Lucasje has joined #Citrix[11:07:17] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[11:09:14] *** GentileBen has joined #Citrix[11:26:02] *** SpideR^ has quit IRC[11:35:28] *** Scorpion3de has joined #Citrix[11:59:29] *** r0vert has quit IRC[12:18:00] *** Bsony has joined #Citrix[12:23:29] *** klick_ has quit IRC[12:51:06] *** klick_ has joined #Citrix[12:58:54] *** siddharthv is now known as siddharthv_away[13:05:47] *** r0vert has joined #Citrix[13:05:49] *** Tom_Wurm has joined #Citrix[13:46:44] <David62277> good morning[13:46:51] <David62277> happy halloween :)[13:54:29] <Grelot> Morning David62277[14:00:13] <Tom_Wurm> dang its hallowwen!?[14:00:25] <Tom_Wurm> I didnt get any candy for neighborhood kids.[14:01:15] *** Quixotic has joined #Citrix[14:05:47] <headscratcher> Grelot you still here?[14:06:10] <headscratcher> I have had to restart my license service for that to kick over to the new file[14:07:11] *** MartynKeigher has joined #Citrix[14:08:51] <Grelot> I did restart many time, just found the issue. I had to remove the evaluation license file manually[14:09:02] <Grelot> And restart[14:09:32] <Grelot> Your solution would have worked if I was on the grace period[14:09:41] <Grelot> But I added an evaluation license[14:09:53] <Grelot> Before the retail one[14:18:46] *** kevjr has joined #Citrix[14:19:20] *** Quixotic has quit IRC[14:19:54] *** Quixotic has joined #Citrix[14:27:26] <David62277> grelot probably could have just restarted the license service instead of rebooting[14:27:52] <David62277> thats what i do when i update a license file... copy it into my files and then restart the license service[14:40:03] *** rismoney1 has quit IRC[14:43:30] <Grelot> Yeah, you're right[14:53:00] *** R1ppa has joined #Citrix[14:53:54] *** Scorpion3de has quit IRC[14:55:01] <R1ppa> was doing some troubleshooting with tcpdump, and I noticed that the pool master(.3) traffic is all over this thing, oddly enough, it wasnt to THAT machine or FROM it, our monitoring service(.75) was sending traffic to this guest VM (.30) but it was 192.168.128.75 > 192.168.128.3[14:55:10] <R1ppa> is this normal?[14:58:15] *** Tom_Wurm has quit IRC[14:58:20] <R1ppa> lol I guess I asked a dumb question?[14:59:32] <tabularasa> there are no dumb questions[15:04:44] <R1ppa> so I guess the network is open in that way, I wasnt expecting to see traffic that had nothing to do with the guest, on the gues VM[15:05:18] <R1ppa> so everything goes through the pool master regardless?[15:10:39] *** Jon___ has joined #Citrix[15:14:57] *** GentileBen has quit IRC[15:23:23] <R1ppa> so I better read on on how networks ....work, with Xenserver[15:23:25] *** Jon___ has quit IRC[15:23:30] <R1ppa> up on*[15:32:58] <tabularasa> sorry, reading now[15:33:48] <kevjr> Citrix connections are port 443 to the netscaler and then the other ICA/HDX ports are from the netscaler to the other citrix servers[15:33:51] <tabularasa> i guess i don't understand the problem/question[15:33:53] <kevjr> is that generally correct[15:34:02] <tabularasa> kevjr: yes[15:34:05] <tabularasa> just like a CSG[15:34:06] <kevjr> ok. thanks[15:34:09] <tabularasa> np[15:34:16] <kevjr> Figured just wanted to make sure[15:35:58] *** KaiForce has joined #Citrix[15:36:50] <R1ppa> sorry was this to me?[15:41:54] <tabularasa> i don't understand your question/problem[15:44:06] <tabularasa> R1ppa: ^---[15:47:25] <KaiForce> Is there a way to enable logging for Receiver installations? I see the one in SERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Citrix\Receiver however it doesn't have much info.[15:47:40] *** Tom_Wurm has joined #Citrix[15:48:29] <tabularasa> http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/receiver-windows-40/receiver-windows-cfg-command-line-40.html[15:48:45] <tabularasa> looks like no[16:02:18] <R1ppa> tabularasa, I was using tcpdump to troubleshoot some traffic, and noticed that the guest VM had traffic on it that had nothing to do with it, I saw pool master talking to another server, I thought I would only see that if I listened on the Dom0 or pool master not a guest VM[16:07:53] <rsrevord> morning[16:07:59] <David62277> uncon still out?[16:10:05] <tabularasa> yeah[16:10:08] <tabularasa> morning rsrevord[16:16:03] *** bitkill3r has joined #Citrix[16:21:42] *** aTypical has joined #Citrix[16:23:31] *** aTypical has left #Citrix[16:23:59] <vegbox> Morning[16:24:11] <vegbox> I gotta say, XD7.x is much more stable than ViaB[16:25:09] <KaiForce> tabularasa: thanks![16:26:35] <tabularasa> yup[16:28:02] <tabularasa> i never understood ViaB[16:32:12] <BobFrankly> is it atum running about 2000 boxes off a pair of PVS servers?[16:33:30] <BobFrankly> I wanted to poke his brain about write caches[16:34:45] <|Atum|> i was[16:34:49] <|Atum|> 1100[16:35:02] <vegbox> Man[16:35:09] <BobFrankly> do you have write-cache on the end points, or coming back to the PVS hosts?[16:35:10] <vegbox> I wish I can get a hold of nComputing N500 new firmware[16:35:20] <|Atum|> cache on device hard drive[16:35:21] <BobFrankly> ncomputing? *barf*[16:35:31] <|Atum|> cache on server is the slowest of all options[16:35:33] <|Atum|> dont use that[16:36:02] <BobFrankly> |Atum|, using it with VM Xen Desktop terminal servers[16:36:19] <|Atum|> if you have pvs 7.1 with hotfix 3 (7.1.3) or higher you should be using cache in ram + spillover to disk. all other modes are considered legacy[16:37:04] <BobFrankly> so the diskless VM is a myth...[16:40:36] <BobFrankly> should know better then to buy into sales man hype[16:45:24] *** EthanR has joined #Citrix[16:48:21] *** Quixotic has quit IRC[16:48:37] <EthanR> Some of my PVS streamed VMs are acting strange. They're showing up as unregistered in citrix studio. But when I try to view what's happening to the machines in XenCenter the machines lock up and a reboot is necessary. Any ideas?[16:54:08] <BobFrankly> write-cache full?[16:54:15] <Bsony> Am i dumb or something, i feel like the hyper-v based xenapps have much lower responsiveness than esxi or xen. have anyone experienced anything like that?[16:57:12] *** Cindy_Citrite has joined #Citrix[16:57:23] *** klick_ has quit IRC[16:58:40] <EthanR> Write cahce is set to 5GBs[17:00:44] <|Atum|> OS-diskless BobFrankly :p[17:01:32] <Bsony> vegbox: which firmware u need?[17:02:16] <vegbox> I got it![17:02:19] <vegbox> 2.0[17:02:22] <|Atum|> the new 2.0 firmware vegbox ?[17:02:23] <vegbox> I just got an email with it[17:02:25] <|Atum|> enhancement list?[17:02:30] <vegbox> rec v13[17:02:32] <vegbox> finally![17:02:40] <|Atum|> enables flash redir on n500?[17:02:53] <vegbox> well, I am in it for the deepcompressionv2[17:03:04] <vegbox> i hear its night and day difference from 1.6[17:03:30] <Bsony> Beta_1_9_893 what i have[17:04:23] *** kiste1 has quit IRC[17:09:12] *** GentileBen has joined #Citrix[17:09:26] <vegbox> I have 2.0.0[17:12:16] *** ghostmediapro has quit IRC[17:13:02] *** ghostmediapro has joined #Citrix[17:13:31] *** Bsony has quit IRC[17:18:50] *** ctxlab has joined #Citrix[17:18:56] <ctxlab> Anyone on a Xenapp 6.5 setup?[17:19:01] <Cindy_Citrite> |Atum|: tabularasa ....You guys ever see windows 2008r2 servers run windows updates on their own? Is there a way to see if someone turned auto updates on?[17:19:21] <|Atum|> sometimes can talk morei n a few hr off to take 2 cert tests[17:19:37] <|Atum|> u must set wu client to disabled and bits disabled. not manual[17:19:39] <tabularasa> Cindy_Citrite: look at the setting "allow users to install updates"[17:19:46] <ctxlab> in xa6.5 when i highlight one of our xenapp server, the IP address is not showing up in Appcenter information server tab[17:20:36] <tabularasa> are you on the latest appcenter?[17:20:44] <tabularasa> there werw a couple important appcenter hotfixes[17:21:46] <BobFrankly> I think I need to look into those as well[17:21:47] <ctxlab> yes, the server that isnt listing an IP is also not taking pub app connections, We have two servers that host the same application[17:22:12] <BobFrankly> ctxlab: check imaservice and citrix wmi service?[17:22:14] <ctxlab> we get "an error occured while making the requested conncetion[17:22:56] <Cindy_Citrite> it's unchecked and never install is set and yet updates got installed[17:23:19] <ctxlab> Ahhh ctx wmi service is not running @bob[17:23:27] <ctxlab> thank yoU! i will start that and see if that fixes the issue[17:23:32] <BobFrankly> ctxlab: that MIGHT help[17:24:00] <ctxlab> hmm our other server that is working doesnt have ctx wmi service running[17:24:02] <ctxlab> but its working[17:24:11] <BobFrankly> Cindy_Citrite do you have the box checked for anyone being able to install updates?[17:24:17] <BobFrankly> we got bit on that one[17:24:31] <Cindy_Citrite> no BobFrankly[17:24:42] <ctxlab> we tried rebooting but to no avail[17:24:44] <tabularasa> then an admin did updates[17:25:20] <BobFrankly> an admin, or any software you have installed for managing multiple machines[17:27:01] <Cindy_Citrite> tabularasa: They were installed at 3AM per the default Auto Install settings, but somehow that was switched from Never to Auto..is there a log or event that would point to the user or culprit?[17:27:46] <BobFrankly> ctxlab: try a qfarm /load[17:27:57] <BobFrankly> those servers might think they're already full[17:27:59] <tabularasa> Cindy_Citrite: not likely[17:28:01] *** EthanR has quit IRC[17:29:46] <ctxlab> server load looks ok, 200 and 300 for server1,2[17:30:07] <ctxlab> ima service looks good, I can check the pub app load that is hosted on server 1 (one with the issue)[17:30:46] <BobFrankly> logins disabled?[17:31:26] <ctxlab> both are enabled[17:31:56] <BobFrankly> and if they're in qfarm, that means they reporting to the xml broker...[17:34:55] <ctxlab> hmm intesting, i think i know why IP isnt showing[17:34:57] <ctxlab> found a ghost nic[17:35:10] *** Glanzmann has joined #Citrix[17:35:32] <Glanzmann> Hello; Does someone have a decent Netscaler SSL config including perferct forward secrecy.[17:40:44] <tabularasa> David62277: nice blog article[17:40:55] <David62277> gracias[17:41:11] <David62277> need a PvS category[17:45:19] *** Tom_Wurm has quit IRC[17:45:43] <tabularasa> done[17:45:56] <David62277> damn i just edited it... lol let me go edit again and click that box[17:47:37] <David62277> there we go... 8 version later and i think it is good :P[17:47:45] <David62277> er 9[17:48:09] <David62277> was trying to get the powershell code to show up right... forgot you had to put the <code></code> tags in the text side[17:48:43] <David62277> and then wordpress wanted to put the </code> in for me everytime if there was a hard return[17:49:21] *** ctxlab has quit IRC[17:50:11] *** Glanzmann has quit IRC[17:55:18] <tabularasa> need to find a good WP theme[18:17:00] *** adada has joined #Citrix[18:17:09] <adada> hi[18:18:34] <tabularasa> howdy[18:25:04] *** adada has quit IRC[18:34:58] *** Cindy_Citrite has quit IRC[18:45:04] <Grelot> 16:36 <|Atum|> if you have pvs 7.1 with hotfix 3 (7.1.3) or higher you should be using cache in ram + spillover to disk. all other modes are considered legacy[18:45:21] <Grelot> Better performance than cache on disk?[18:46:43] *** mhz has quit IRC[18:47:40] *** xSnakeDoctor has joined #Citrix[18:52:02] <David62277> yes grelot[18:52:45] <Grelot> Do I need to add more ram to each host?[18:53:04] <David62277> shouldnt... how much you have assigned now? desktops or servers?[18:55:16] <David62277> so here's one... i have my little test environment running with XD 7.5. I update the VDA to 7.6 in preps for upgrading to 7.6. the PvD desktops boot up and register, but the random desktops dont register... they are booting off of the same image[18:57:07] <Grelot> Servers, 8go[18:58:07] <David62277> id think you'd be ok... maybe do 512MB or 1GB for the cache... do you ever see memory spike above 7GB?[18:58:31] <Grelot> Not really so far[18:58:49] <David62277> id go for 1GB then[18:58:57] <David62277> see how it runs[18:59:09] <Grelot> But sometimes the disk cache gets full[18:59:47] <David62277> then decide if you want to bump it down, or if you need to bump it up and add more ram. cache to ram and overflow to disk (with the 7.1.3 update) does a pretty good job of freeing disk space[18:59:54] <Grelot> But that's OK if it still to disk[19:00:01] <Grelot> I forgot that :)[19:00:06] <Grelot> Spill[19:00:41] <Grelot> Sounds good thanks[19:00:48] <David62277> where the .vdiskcache file will fill up ad it never frees the space... the xvhd will shrink[19:01:13] <David62277> it is still possible for it to fill up... depending on what all your users are doing, but less likely[19:06:57] <David62277> damnit why wont they register...[19:07:20] <David62277> just updated the license server to 7.6 in case that has something to do with it... rebooting now[19:08:07] <Grelot> Your ddc are not 7.6 yet?[19:08:21] <David62277> right[19:08:43] <David62277> cause unless they have changed it... you're supposed to get the VDA updated first... then do the DDCs[19:08:54] <David62277> well storefront/licensing then DDCs[19:08:59] <Grelot> Can you swipe back one of your desktop to 7.5 and see how it goes?[19:09:09] <David62277> they register then[19:09:35] <Grelot> Vda 7.6 should be just the same with a bunch of hotfixes[19:10:10] <David62277> look at the event logs and it shows the list of DDCs, and then right after it says it cant register with them[19:10:24] <David62277> but the PvD ones... they have no problem... same vdisk[19:12:26] <David62277> gonna roll em back to the version with 7.5 and see if i upgrade the DDCs first what happens[19:20:54] <David62277> ok verified 7.5 vda registers just fine both random and PvD[19:21:06] <David62277> with the 7.5 DDCs[19:21:32] <David62277> which i already knew that... going to update the DDCs (SF and license already updated)[19:21:35] *** Lucasje has quit IRC[19:21:42] <David62277> and see what the 7.5 VDA thinks about that[19:25:03] <Grelot> It's weird, vda 7.6 not compatible with 7.5 then[19:26:32] <damadhatter> anyone here familar with RDS? Please dont kill me for asking haha[19:26:56] <damadhatter> My research RDS web would require a VPN tunnel to the corp site, where as RDS gateway allows for the traffic to be passed over https. Can these two work in conjunction? Similar to how a Citrix Netscaler passes traffic over https to Citrix StoreFront[19:31:35] *** Bsony has joined #Citrix[19:33:07] <tabularasa> i thought they could, but i'm not 100% sure[19:45:05] <bitkill3r> hi, I'm having an issue where when the user launches the application, and goes type in, there's no keyboard input. this is on a lock down windows xp machine. has anyone faced this issue before?[19:49:45] <tabularasa> windows XP?[19:56:15] *** ghostmediapro has quit IRC[19:57:31] <Grelot> keyboard work on rdp connexion ?[20:03:09] <bitkill3r> deleted the users ts profile, and the keyboard started working again.[20:06:21] *** unop has joined #Citrix[20:13:26] *** kdavyd has quit IRC[20:14:13] *** kdavyd has joined #Citrix[20:21:16] *** bitkill3r has quit IRC[20:28:47] *** KaiForce has quit IRC[20:29:16] <David62277> ok so 7.5 VDA will register with the 7.6 DDCs[20:31:35] <Grelot> But not the opposite[20:31:40] <Grelot> Good to know[20:31:57] <David62277> but only the random desktops had the issue registering[20:32:13] <David62277> PvD desktops registered no problem 7.6VDA with 7.5 DDC[20:32:30] <David62277> but they all registered 7.5VDA with 7.6 DDC[20:33:12] <David62277> now starting them up with the 7.6VDA[20:45:14] <David62277> hmm 7.6VDA with 7.6DDC... random are stuck at initializing, and PvD register... going to re-do the VDA install[21:06:37] <David62277> maybe the 7.5 vda hotfix hosed things up?[21:10:04] <vegbox> Anyone using XenMobile9?[21:19:49] *** r0vert has quit IRC[22:00:53] *** kevjr has quit IRC[22:18:31] *** GentileBen has quit IRC[22:43:51] *** MartynKeigher has quit IRC[22:53:17] *** hardlock has quit IRC[22:54:52] *** hardlock has joined #Citrix[23:13:40] *** Bsony has quit IRC