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[00:15:22] <xSnakeDoctor> hey guys, is there an easy way to log a user off from a disconnected session? I used to connect to the target devices through remote desktop services manager and it would let me boot them off that way
[00:16:09] <xSnakeDoctor> i can't see their session in director.. at least.. not one that I can log off
[00:16:52] <|Atum|> task mgr as admin -> users -> right click, log off
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[00:17:48] <|Atum|> have a weird one - trying to access storefront through NG in DMZ, when i point the session policy to the internal SF LB, logging in works, green bubble theme is there, but it just doesn't show any apps.
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[00:30:37] <occupant> So Citrix has a youtube video where they show seamlessly migrating VMs between pools just by dragging them. Which of course doesn'
[00:30:56] <occupant> t work when actually tried. What needs to happen to make this possible?
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[00:33:36] <xSnakeDoctor> hey atum, i don't see all the users that way though, only the users logged into the PVS machine I'm on
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[01:01:27] <vegbox> what is the recommended video card for remote access to physical pcs?
[01:02:11] <jonopcc> haven't we been trying to do single FQDN the last few versions?
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[01:38:07] <xSnake|Work> any other ways to force a log off?
[01:38:16] <xSnake|Work> I can't even log these users off via the ddc console
[01:40:37] <vegbox> use your active directory permissions?
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[01:46:12] <xSnake|Work> not sure what you mean
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[02:42:33] <eliasrus> morning
[02:44:44] <SYS_NOOB> Afternoon
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[04:14:32] <occupant> Yup, SP1 breaks bonding and knocks your server offline.
[04:14:54] <occupant> what a load of shit
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[04:33:04] <ElijahRus> .
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[10:17:47] <kiste> anyone how was able to setup app orchestration 2.5 sucessfully?
[10:17:53] <kiste> how=who?
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[11:12:21] <newbeez54> hello everybody
[11:13:04] <newbeez54> I have pblm with Machine Creation
[11:13:29] <newbeez54> I cannot create MC with XD7.5 with vcenter 5.1
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[11:26:47] <newbeez54> anybody have an idea?
[11:28:24] <kiste> ssl certificate?
[11:29:03] <WyW> anything in the logs
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[15:45:25] <rsrevord> morning
[15:48:13] <bo> morning
[15:48:20] <bo> is ther a patch for shell shock yet
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[16:00:21] <Lucasje> but there are appfw patterns or responder policies to further ease your mind available
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[16:01:00] <paradizelost> hey guys, anyone familiar with the dell wyse windows thin clients
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[16:01:12] <paradizelost> just wondering what the best way to take an image and deploy on a couple of others is
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[16:03:42] <Guest44497> paradizelost: what you mean
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[16:05:36] <GentileBen> paradizelost: you use the tool which shipped with those thin clients.
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[16:06:02] <GentileBen> You *could* PXE boot and image them with WDS but that requires more work, I think.
[16:06:35] <GentileBen> The standard method is to use Dell's management tool (there should be an imaging workbench where you modify stuff, clikc "commit" and it spews out an image) but it depends on the tech/age.
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[16:11:19] <jonopcc> so far xenapp/desktop 7.6 been nothing but issues in my lab :|
[16:12:36] <jonopcc> remote pc tested flash, fucked. pre-launch can never find the actual process. receiver stuck on wanting to get updates from citrix.com it looks like even though that whole option is gone from storefront gui, need to find out how to turn off in web config... etc...
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[16:21:57] <Lucasje> sounds promising :/
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[16:33:39] <Moxified> anybody with XD and office 365?
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[16:36:28] <JarianGibson> blog post about new migration tool
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[16:43:08] <rsrevord> hey if comments are closed why are you asking for some JarianGibson
[16:43:19] <JarianGibson> what comments?
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[16:45:11] <kevjr> jonopcc, for remote PC what do you mean flash?
[16:45:26] <kevjr> Do you mean you connected, it flashed and kicked you out?
[16:45:39] <kevjr> If so I was seeing that in 7.5 and was hoping it was fixed in 7.6 :(
[16:45:58] <rsrevord> your blog bpostust pasted
[16:46:39] <JarianGibson> fixed
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[16:51:47] <JarianGibson> thanks rsrevord
[16:54:22] <rsrevord> welcome
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[17:11:14] <|Atum|> have a weird one - trying to access storefront through NG in DMZ, when i point the session policy to the internal SF LB, logging in works, green bubble theme is there, but it just doesn't show any apps. Callback is reachable from both SF
[17:11:33] <|Atum|> upgraded 2.5.0.29 to 2.5.2 without a behavior change
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[17:26:26] <jonopcc> kevjr: no. i was just testing flash through youtube over remote PC connection and it was completely fucked. wouldnt' show the video. then reconnected over RDP and it was fine. need to do more flash version testing I think.... we'll see...
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[17:31:51] <kevjr> jonopcc, Gotcha
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[17:32:03] <kevjr> I couldnt even get 7.5 to work on some of the windows machines here (win7)
[17:32:14] <kevjr> It would connect you would see a black screen and then it would boot you out
[17:32:18] <kevjr> some it worked on though
[17:33:11] <jonopcc> laptops or all desktops?
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[17:53:00] <kevjr> jonopcc, desktops
[17:53:23] <kevjr> so i just said lets try it with the newer vda in 7.6 and see what happens
[17:54:12] <|Atum|> anyone customized the "your sessio nhas logged off page" so it automatically goes back to the logon page? SF
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[17:56:12] <rsrevord> long time ago forget what i did, i slacked and didn't document the hack sorry
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[17:58:54] <rsrevord> oooo here is a interesting email, should we have a separate AD domain in the forest for our VDI infrastructure!
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[18:09:33] <KaiForce> Does anyone make a decent, basic Thin Client with no wireless needed that supports RDP / Citrix for use in a non-managed (small) environment?
[18:12:38] <rsrevord> KaiForce: repurposed PC with thinkoisk
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[18:13:23] <rsrevord> tabularasa speaks well for the xeniths but i don't have hands on with them so i can't say sorry
[18:13:29] <rsrevord> otherwise i feel most are crap
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[18:17:19] <KaiForce> rsrevord: thanks for the feedback, I haven't looked at xenith
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[18:26:11] <David62277> jesus christ... been beating my head against the wall for 2 days about some app that takes FOREVER to print in a virtual desktop. first thing i heard was that they saw a delay locally too... so wrote it off as an app issue. turns out the delay locally is a couple of seconds, but the delay in VDI is more like 2 minutes (litterally)
[18:26:32] <David62277> turns out the latest hotfix for the vda (7.1) fixes it...
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[18:40:05] <David62277> anyone know if when updating a DDC (first of 2) if it is ok to install all of the hotfixes prior to the site upgrade?
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[18:40:52] <David62277> upgrading from 7.0 to 7.1 on Friday
[18:45:07] <|Atum|> complete the upgrade then apply hotfixes
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[18:48:27] <David62277> so upgrade DDC1 to 7.1, do the site upgrade, upgrade DDC2 to 7.1... then repeat the process with the hotfixes?
[18:48:52] <|Atum|> yes
[18:49:15] <David62277> cool thanks... my test environment only has 1 ddc so cant get an apples to apples using it
[18:49:36] <David62277> easy enough to add one i guess...
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[19:01:38] <tabularasa> sorry, here now
[19:02:03] <tabularasa> and yes, for BASIC needs, you can't beat a Xenith, imo
[19:02:14] <tabularasa> if you need to do ANYTHING else, use a PC... thats my opinion.
[19:02:31] <David62277> had a zero client at my last company... worked great
[19:03:08] <tabularasa> works great until you need any video or image manipulation
[19:04:19] <David62277> didnt have anyone doing anything like that for the most part... we were in the middle of setting up a XD environment with grid cards for our cad users when i left
[19:04:48] <David62277> from what i heard that was a failure... just wasnt as powerful as a loaded up rediculous local desktop
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[19:16:11] <KaiForce> Xeniths: no mention of RDP support.
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[19:40:04] <tabularasa> KaiForce: ah, no, there is no RDP.. sorry, i read that and aparently forgot it
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[19:43:24] <vegbox> Gah, I am getting these weird active x 429 errrors
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[20:00:09] <stormlight> anyone know a rough cost of XD/XA 7.5. enterprise. I think we renewed at 175$ last time per user but I cant rember
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[20:04:24] <kevjr> just installed 7.6 vda on my physical PC and it rebooted; now im staring at a black screen and cant see anything.
[20:05:44] <tabularasa> awesome
[20:05:47] <tabularasa> that's a feature
[20:06:12] <kevjr> I am able to connect to it though
[20:06:23] <kevjr> ...so thats something
[20:06:31] <stormlight> kevjr: safe mode and update your video drivers. I have the same issue in 7.5 Mostly with dell boxes
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[20:06:57] <kevjr> I believe this are the latest
[20:07:02] <kevjr> This didnt happen in 7.5
[20:07:05] <kevjr> but ill check
[20:07:53] <kevjr> just hit crtl alt del and typed my password in and hit OK now i can see the desktop
[20:09:18] <kevjr> i think it has to do with this junky HP USB graphics adapter
[20:09:20] <kevjr> so i can get three monitors
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[20:14:29] <vegbox> is there a recommended video card for remote pc access?
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[20:15:06] <lorenzo> hi! I need to set up a md raid on a Linux vm under Xen
[20:15:15] <lorenzo> is buying a SAS HBA, passing it thru pci, then using it from the vm
[20:15:18] <tabularasa> oh, that sounds like fun
[20:15:20] <lorenzo> a viable/proven option?
[20:15:28] <tabularasa> why would you do that?
[20:15:37] <tabularasa> why don't you just raid the datastore and put VMs on it?
[20:15:49] <lorenzo> tabularasa: I need software raid
[20:16:58] <tabularasa> just curious.. how come?
[20:17:27] <lorenzo> long story
[20:17:37] <lorenzo> I have some disks on which there's already a mdadm raid on
[20:21:45] <kevjr> has anyone used an HP usb graphics adapter with remote pc?
[20:26:04] <vegbox> no
[20:26:11] <vegbox> i am having problems with standard intel graphics
[20:26:12] <vegbox> Lol
[20:26:12] <lorenzo> tabularasa: you might be right
[20:26:17] <lorenzo> what I could do is mdadm on xen
[20:26:37] <lorenzo> and then attach the raid as datastore, and create a disk on it
[20:30:12] <tabularasa> yeah, i know that would work
[20:30:23] <tabularasa> no idea if you can do pci passthrough to a raid card... i guess that could work
[20:30:31] <tabularasa> johnelse: ?? ^--
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[20:36:11] <David62277> why the hell do the damn .pvp file timestamps change on pvs servers every once in a while?
[20:37:00] <tabularasa> because they hate you
[20:37:06] <David62277> apparently
[20:38:31] <David62277> our pvs servers reboot every other night (same for ddc's, and sf servers)... probably not really needed, but you know... they are windows boxes. could that cause the pvp timestamps to change?
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[20:40:33] <tabularasa> i woudln't think so
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[20:42:42] <David62277> copying the pvp file over fixes it... and sometimes restarting the services and/or reboot
[20:43:57] <kevjr> is there a good way / any way to see why a user was disconnected from a published desktop session?
[20:44:10] <tabularasa> no, but i wish there was
[20:44:22] <kevjr> same
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[21:12:19] <kevjr> so im thinking the vda doesnt play nice with this usb graphics adapter
[21:12:27] <kevjr> that monitor doesnt work now
[21:12:32] <kevjr> even after updating the driver
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[21:23:13] <jonopcc> i came across issues on laptops with the discrete hybrid gfx shit with remote pc as well
[21:23:23] <jonopcc> usually blank screens are issues with the driver i think
[21:24:41] <jonopcc> i had to disable the nvidia optimus shit when dealing with lappies
[21:25:20] <kevjr> my screen that was running off of the usb graphics adapter just doesnt even work now
[21:25:30] <kevjr> and i have already removed the VDA
[21:25:58] <jonopcc> killed the hardware!
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[21:32:17] <vegbox> i am still looking for a recommended graphics card for remote pc
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[21:34:36] <lorenzo> vegbox: all you need is a 8 MB Matrox Millenium II
[21:34:43] <lorenzo> everything else is for 3D noobs
[21:35:07] <vegbox> my intel graphics is giving me issues
[21:35:48] <vegbox> Physical PC -> User goes home logs in via NS (works fine) -> User returns to Physical PC, slow as shit -> User logs in via NS (back to normal)
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[21:36:01] <vegbox> User has to restart PC to restore pc speed
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[21:46:23] <|Atum|> RE: My storefront issue- was Edgesight monitoring prebody/postbody policies bound to thevserevr cuasing the issue. Are these used for NS Insight?
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[21:47:27] <flippytheclown> After a long support call with Citrix I found out Netscaler Gateway will not passthru domain creds. Limitation of product. sigh
[21:48:10] <occupant> what kind of server board doesn't have onboard video?
[21:50:34] <Lucasje> flippytheclown: what exactly are you trying to pass it through too?
[21:51:25] <flippytheclown> Citrix Receiver logged into domain passthru to NSG which sits in front of Storefront
[21:52:29] <flippytheclown> So i can point the Receiver at one URL no matter where the client is outside or inside network
[21:52:49] <flippytheclown> been doing this with Citrix Secure Gateway for years
[21:54:07] <Lucasje> Nsg / storefront automatically adds the internal point in your config though, so you should only configure it once externally, and should be able to also use it internally
[21:54:33] <Lucasje> Because of the beacon points it 'should' use the correct path
[21:54:59] <Lucasje> Single fqdn is supported now too, since yesterday. With SF 2.6
[21:55:44] <flippytheclown> Haven't messed with beacons yet. Still learning. I'll check it out.
[21:57:17] <Lucasje> The passthru i don't really get, so it's receiver sso with domain creds, connected to nsg?
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[21:58:08] <flippytheclown> yes exactly. I don't want the user to have to re-enter creds just to start citrix apps
[21:59:30] <flippytheclown> i checked the beacon setup on SF 2.5 and there is already internal and external beacons
[22:00:36] <Lucasje> Normally if you connect your external receiver now, autodiscover the store if you can call it like that, and then check the configured url, it will use the internal storefront name
[22:01:02] <Lucasje> And connect through NS when external, and SF when internal
[22:01:57] <flippytheclown> yes that works but the issue becomes i am outside my LAN i get prompted for creds
[22:02:13] <Lucasje> The cred's towards the server have always been handled by the receiver itself though, secure gateway didn't do anything with that either
[22:03:35] <flippytheclown> in the past I simply pointed the receiver at CSG/WI (on same server) and set the ICA client to passthru
[22:04:27] <Lucasje> And you have the receiver.adm configured on the client with passthrough enabled?
[22:04:45] <Lucasje> ( old option is allow local username/password)
[22:05:16] <flippytheclown> yes and the trusted sites IE bit, provider order PnSson 1st
[22:06:53] <flippytheclown> I need to understand the beacons better. Also I get different behavior on Win 8.1 then 7 clients. 8.1 I have never gotten passthru to work at all
[22:07:09] <Lucasje> Since it's that option that makes sure your receiver can capture your creds
[22:09:57] <Lucasje> I should test the setup, but technically I'm pretty sure it's supposed to work, and nsg isn't supposed to forward the creds, so that limitation they tell you might be accurate but beside the point imo
[22:11:58] <Lucasje> Short explain= receiver pings the beacons and figures out if it's external or internal seeing if it can resolve it (i'm on ipad and it's 10pm) so not gonna write books about it ;)
[22:12:47] <flippytheclown> tks for your advice. time to read up on this and test
[22:14:50] <Lucasje> Yw, I'll poke you if I get a chance to test it one of the coming days, you made me curious, but need time to test it :)
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[22:16:54] <flippytheclown> tks. i'll share what I come up with also
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[22:21:59] <MartynKeigher> Hello ndolson816 !
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[22:33:04] <ndolson816> Hello MartynKeigher
[22:33:09] <MartynKeigher> YO!
[22:33:13] <JarianGibson> hello ndolson816
[22:33:18] <MartynKeigher> OMG!
[22:33:22] <MartynKeigher> hello JarianGibson!
[22:33:38] <MartynKeigher> was on the phone with CTX support for 6 hours this am. :(
[22:33:57] <MartynKeigher> Long story short... Prof Man 5.1 & AV.
[22:34:21] <ndolson816> Fail\
[22:34:37] <ndolson816> :P
[22:34:58] <MartynKeigher> nah... it was complicated as crap. even they were stumped
[22:35:58] <MartynKeigher> anyways... how's the new seating arrangement ndolson816 ?
[22:36:34] <ndolson816> what was the issue?
[22:37:27] <MartynKeigher> av was locking up profile files/folders and taking too long to process etc...
[22:37:41] <ndolson816> what was the fix?
[22:37:55] <MartynKeigher> the workaround: (after many hours) disable AV
[22:38:10] <MartynKeigher> all the exclusions that they have documented were set in the exclusions.
[22:38:10] <ndolson816> entirely?
[22:38:26] <MartynKeigher> not entirely. just files. web and email still on.
[22:38:29] <ndolson816> on file server or VDA?
[22:38:37] <MartynKeigher> VDA
[22:39:29] <ndolson816> what AV?
[22:39:37] <MartynKeigher> so now im working out WHICH file/folder is the secret
[22:39:40] <MartynKeigher> ESET NOD32
[22:39:44] <ndolson816> we're playing 21 questions, only 17 left to go
[22:39:53] <MartynKeigher> haha
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[22:44:27] <vegbox> Anyone using onBase in their citrix xendesktop environment?
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[22:56:06] <kevjr> ICa service can be restarted without affecting those logged on right
[22:56:14] <kevjr> just wanted to double check
[22:56:26] <kevjr> err IMA
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[23:02:46] <|Atum|> The hits just keep coming - NS 10.1.125.8 upgrade to 10.5 and logins failed afterwards
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[23:03:13] <kevjr> any see where you have stuck users who are disconnected
[23:03:28] <kevjr> And how to get them the off
[23:04:14] <|Atum|> ah HA
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[23:08:40] <|Atum|> that is, ah ha, not High availability
[23:08:41] <|Atum|> :P
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[23:31:55] <rsrevord> woohoo finally time enouth to start the win10 download
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