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[00:16:42] <gecko19> Hello All, I was just wondering if there is some way of disabling aura
[00:16:56] <gecko19> and running chromium....
[00:17:14] <gecko19> in essence running chromium full screen without the aura look and feell...
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[11:40:34] <hellyeah> anyone around?
[11:40:43] <hellyeah> hmm
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[11:46:04] <claudiodesouza> Hi
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[12:11:54] <claudiodesouza> Would someone please kick up a CQ dry run for me?
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[12:13:43] <fsod> claudiodesouza, sure. CL?
[12:13:54] <claudiodesouza> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/925363
[12:14:03] <claudiodesouza> cheers fsod
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[12:15:00] <claudiodesouza> fsod: also, since you're being genereous, https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/923262 pretty please
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[13:15:55] <ellyjones> morning chromies :)
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[13:21:17] <fsod> claudiodesouza, you want me to CQ it?
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[13:51:03] <claudiodesouza> yes please
[13:51:13] <claudiodesouza> yes please, fsod
[13:53:10] <maxmorin> claudiodesouza: you'll need some OWNERs reviewers first
[13:53:33] <fsod> Ok, so "the other CQ" then ;-)
[13:54:23] <claudiodesouza> maxmorin: I know... do you have any recommendations on how to reach out to them? Should I email them directly, or would they be around here?
[13:54:42] <claudiodesouza> fsod: cheers mate
[13:54:46] <ellyjones> a random subset of developers hang around here
[13:57:11] <claudiodesouza> ellyjones, I was removing base::Passed from //base, //components, //crypt, //dbus, and //device
[13:57:26] <claudiodesouza> so I guess there's a good number of owners to be reached about it
[13:57:43] <claudiodesouza> I might email them all wiht the CL
[13:58:07] <claudiodesouza> might be more effective, considering there's a dozen of owners from different components folder
[13:58:15] <ellyjones> O_o how come you are removing that?
[13:58:55] <ellyjones> for that scope of change I would use a root owner, probably sky@ or jochen@
[13:59:19] <claudiodesouza> oh, ok... that's better...
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[13:59:34] <claudiodesouza> ellyjones: I'm trying to be relevant around here
[13:59:45] <ellyjones> what do you mean?
[13:59:52] <vivvist> hi, I am trying to launch the content_shell with -host-mapping-rules via exec() system call
[14:00:17] <vivvist> when I do so, its not able to resolve the supplied host name whereas when the same command is run thr' the system() API, its working
[14:00:24] <claudiodesouza> ellyjones: you asked me how come I'm removing that... I came across that... though I could help
[14:00:25] <vivvist> any clues?
[14:00:42] <ellyjones> claudiodesouza: came across what exactly?
[14:00:52] <ellyjones> I don't see any sign that base::Passed is deprecated or otherwise bad to use
[14:01:18] <ellyjones> vivvist: probably your use of exec() (I guess you mean execve or similar?) is wrong, then
[14:01:19] <claudiodesouza> ellyjones: that base::Passed was being deprecated since in most cases it is being use, people should be using base::OnceCallback
[14:01:28] <ellyjones> claudiodesouza: ah
[14:01:34] <hwennborg> there's a chromium-dev thread about this, "Proposal: discourage use of base::Passed"
[14:01:43] <ellyjones> claudiodesouza: yeah, send your CL over to sky@ or jochen@
[14:01:57] <claudiodesouza> ellyjones: thanks.. will do!
[14:02:11] <claudiodesouza> Chromies... let me sheriff... I want the authoritah
[14:02:41] <ellyjones> sheriffing doesn't come with any authority really
[14:02:44] <ellyjones> except for moral authority
[14:03:15] <claudiodesouza> haha... I meant as a joke the authoritah part
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[14:03:27] <ellyjones> ahh
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[14:13:01] <ellyjones> vivvist: if you're still stuck, a good place to start would be using strace to see if the arguments you're passing to exec look like what you expect
[14:13:55] <vivvist> ellyjones: I tried obtaining environ variable and passing it to the execve but still the same result
[14:14:14] <vivvist> and unfortunately the strace is not available. Its a QNX system by the way!
[14:14:18] <ellyjones> ohh
[14:14:26] <ellyjones> I don't know anything about strace - maybe you can ask other qnx developers?
[14:14:32] <ellyjones> erm
[14:14:35] <ellyjones> anything about qnx rather
[14:14:41] <ellyjones> this sounds like not really a chromium problem to me though
[14:14:48] <ellyjones> especially if it works with system()
[14:15:13] <vivvist> wanted to understand more on the net module of chromium if it relies on any program bits being set
[14:15:27] <vivvist> in order to use the host resolving rules
[14:15:43] <ellyjones> I wouldn't think so, but what is a "program bit"?
[14:16:35] <vivvist> sorry I meant sigmask
[14:16:59] <ellyjones> no, definitely not
[14:17:17] <ellyjones> if it works with system but not with exec, I would guess you aren
[14:17:25] <ellyjones> er, that you aren't correctly passing the arguments with exec
[14:17:38] <ellyjones> but I don't know how to debug that on qnx, so I suggest talking to some qnx experts
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[14:22:13] <vivvist> ellyjones: ok I will try that option. thank you for your help!
[14:22:16] <vivvist> appreciate that!
[14:23:29] <rafaeleventials> Hi there, we still use flash to capture the user camera and mic (video streaming). Since chrome Version 64 we've got a lot of users complaining about the flash plugin crashing on windows, linux and mac.... anyone else with this problem?
[14:23:38] <ellyjones> vivvist: no problem
[14:25:01] <ellyjones> rafaeleventials: hm, I do see a quite sharp rise in plugin crash rate on Mac
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[14:26:46] <ellyjones> I'm not on the plugin team but I imagine that their triage will look at that today
[14:27:44] <rafaeleventials> I'm not sure if I should get the logs and open a bug on chromium. Anyone here from plugin team that I can/should talk to?
[14:28:17] <ellyjones> if you have logs or something similar, sure, please file a crbug
[14:28:23] <ellyjones> I can route it over to the plugin folks directly
[14:28:26] <ellyjones> I don't know if any of them are here
[14:31:48] <johnsm1> Hello guys,
[14:31:53] <johnsm1> I am trying to use chromium headless mode and the devtools protocol to determine (real) page FPS (in the same fashion done by devtools->Rendering->Show FPS Counter), More specifically, I am trying to determine if a page is "animated" (in any way) or not. Trying many different approaches I ended up collecting a trace using devtools:Tracing, processing the log and trying many different page configurations (gifs, videos, static HTMLs
[14:32:00] <johnsm1> I ended up narrowing the events down to "SoftwareRenderer::DoDrawQuad" however I couldn't find any documentation regarding this event, Is this event the actual Paint & Composite event to render a frame on the screen? (i.e this event represent an actual frame drawing) Is there any other way to determine actual frame drawing?
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[14:33:49] <ellyjones> johnsm1: you're likely better off asking on graphics-dev at chromium dot org
[14:34:32] <johnsm1> ellyjones: will do, thanks
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[15:36:34] <claudiodesouza> what's up with codesearch?
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[15:39:08] <johndoe> codesearch being slow today?
[15:39:17] <ellyjones> *everything* is being slow today
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[15:39:26] <ellyjones> I'm a little puzzled
[15:39:53] <claudiodesouza> codesearch is almost unuasable
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[15:55:40] <rakuco> foolip: there?
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[17:13:57] <madprops> hello
[17:14:30] <ellyjones> hello
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[17:14:48] <madprops> wanted to touch a subject about the url preview bar that pops up on the bottom left
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[17:15:45] <madprops> it's a great and needed feature. though i've noticed on this web application i made, a chat application, the input box which is at the bottom left gets covered wheneever the cursor hits a link https://i.imgur.com/23VcpyM.jpg
[17:15:55] <madprops> it can be quite uncomfortable
[17:16:13] <madprops> just some feedback
[17:17:07] <ellyjones> good to know, thanks
[17:17:17] <ellyjones> we do try to move it to the bottom-right under some circumstances but I'm not sure what they are
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[17:22:58] <urjaman> (my quick faffing around says if the mouse cursor would be right over the url preview it uses the other side...)
[17:24:01] <ellyjones> ahh
[17:24:21] <ellyjones> yup
[17:24:28] <ellyjones> perhaps it should also avoid the currently focused element if it can
[17:24:42] <madprops> that would be great
[17:24:42] <ellyjones> although, if you have an entry field that fills the entire bottom of the screen, it won't be able to avoid that
[17:24:48] <madprops> true
[17:26:48] <madprops> this is normally not a problem. in my case, since it's a chat and the text scrolls on new messages the cursor can end up above a link, even if you didn't left the cursor there initially. i think a good fix could be to only trigger the preview if the hover was initiated by the user movement, not on dynamic content movement
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[17:33:01] <claudiodesouza> so... is anyone around here from the UK?
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[17:49:45] <ellyjones> some of us are - why do you ask?
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[17:55:52] <madprops> btw i want to take this opportunity to thank you all. chrome is the best browser in my opinion. it's a fantastic piece of work you're doing
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[17:58:25] <ellyjones> thanks :)
[17:58:31] <jbroman> madprops: Thank you. :D
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[18:03:15] <rufino> hello guys
[18:03:42] <rufino> do you know where i can find a description for each test case (or at least test suite) of the chromium browser_tests?
[18:03:59] <Torne> "in the source code" is probably all you're going to get
[18:04:01] <claudiodesouza> ellyjones: just trying to make some acquaintances
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[18:04:18] <claudiodesouza> based on something in common
[18:05:36] <pandark> hi
[18:06:14] <pandark> someone can help me with a problem with google maps and bluetooth ?
[18:06:37] <beverloo> We've got a Chrome team in the UK :)
[18:06:39] <rufino> there isn't anyway for me to get this descriptions from documentation?
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[18:07:23] <claudiodesouza> beverloo: is it based in London? or are you all scattered all over the country?
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[18:07:34] <beverloo> London
[18:07:41] <Torne> rufino: generally each test file is testing the source file/module with the corresponding name as the test
[18:07:42] <ellyjones> pandark: probably not - this is a channel for chromium development, not for help with google products
[18:07:52] <ellyjones> rufino: there's no such description for tests, just the source
[18:07:59] <Torne> rufino: there's not normally a lot of need for tests to have documentation other than that
[18:08:22] <Torne> is there something in particular you're trying to figure out?
[18:08:26] <rufino> ellyjones and Torne: ok, thanks!
[18:08:31] <pandark> ok np i'll be waiting for an answer on #googlemaps
[18:08:42] <claudiodesouza> alright... I'm pretty close in Buckinghamshire. Are there any technical meet ups done by the chromium team in London?
[18:09:02] <rufino> i was asked to write a document to associate each testsuite with a description
[18:09:13] <rufino> we need to run some tests and we need to know what each test does
[18:09:40] <ellyjones> yeah, you're going to have to do that from the source
[18:09:46] <ellyjones> keeping it up to date will be a *large* amount of work
[18:09:50] <ellyjones> so, er, good luck
[18:09:51] <Torne> pandark: if you want support with google products the google help forums are the best place; any channel on irc is just something someone else created
[18:10:14] <Torne> probably everybody who's in there is just someone else who assumed they could get help there :)
[18:10:17] <beverloo> claudiodesouza, ah, cool. We don't really have meetups like that since we're all sitting in the same area anyway
[18:10:21] <rufino> ellyjones: oh, that was what i thought
[18:10:29] <beverloo> nothing external, but it's a good idea :)
[18:10:41] <rufino> ellyjones: but thanks anyway
[18:10:49] <Torne> rufino: yeah i suggest telling whoever asked you to do that that it's impractical and not doing it :p
[18:10:52] <pandark> ok ty Torne
[18:11:18] <ellyjones> that would be my go-to as well :) there's thousands (literally) of browser tests and dozens of them change every day
[18:11:27] <rufino> very impractical, there are almost 10 thousands of test cases
[18:12:07] <claudiodesouza> beverloo: that's a shame... I do tent to nag my friends a lot talking about chromium's inner workings... I feel sorry for them to put up with it, haha.
[18:12:12] <ellyjones> also many of them are procedurally generated
[18:12:16] <ellyjones> (look for the TEST_P macros)
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[18:15:52] <rufino> that would really be impossible to keep track if there are these kind of testcases
[18:16:57] <ellyjones> yeah
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[18:20:21] <rufino> and do you know where can I find the source files for the test cases?
[18:20:31] <Torne> they're next to the files they test
[18:20:38] <Torne> distributed all throughout the tree
[18:20:41] <Torne> there's no specific "test" location
[18:21:04] <Torne> see the gn build config for the list of sources that go into each test target
[18:21:05] <ellyjones> the authoritative way to find it out is to query gn for which files are included in the various browser test targets
[18:21:13] <ellyjones> but exactly which test targets are run when is extremely variable
[18:21:13] <Torne> oh, yeah, or that
[18:21:21] <ellyjones> some may not work in certain configs, and so on
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[18:23:18] <rufino> more complicated than i thought, apparently
[18:24:24] <ellyjones> if you were trying to build a system that defies static analysis and documentation, you could not do much better than we have done :P
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[18:25:04] <rufino> what we are trying to do is writing scripts to run specific testsuites from the browser_tests
[18:25:15] <ellyjones> got it
[18:25:23] <ellyjones> well, that you could do, by using appropriate values of --gtest_filter
[18:25:36] <rufino> yes yes
[18:26:04] <rufino> but what we need know is to know what each test do, not the execution of the tests itself
[18:26:24] <ellyjones> yeah, you will be doing a lot of reading :)
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[18:35:48] <claudiodesouza> see you guys later
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[20:06:18] <robliao> FYI to sheriffs: I've got a fix for the failing presubmits: https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/926910
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[20:11:30] <robliao> Talked to cjgrant@, we're going to roll back his directory name change.
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