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[10:35:39] <andywww> I’d like to ask a question about a strange rendering engine quirk I’m getting but i notice this room says it is not a support channel. Where would one usually take such an issue?
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[12:57:00] <ellyjones> morning chromies :)
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[14:00:43] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "Failure reason" on "Fuchsia x64 Cast Audio" blink-w3c-test-autoroller at chromium dot org,eladalon@chromium.org)
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[14:03:45] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Automatic: Chúc may mắn!)
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[15:03:57] <claudiodesouza> Hi everyone
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[15:04:43] <ellyjones> hello
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[16:13:59] <jbroman> EST sheriff is in
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[16:25:29] <claudiodesouza> How do I do to get a ticket looked after?
[16:26:08] <claudiodesouza> I mean, some tickets seat on uncomfirmed for a long period
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[16:27:28] <claudiodesouza> I have come across some issues running clang tools on Windows... I kn
[16:27:47] <claudiodesouza> I know who ideally would be able to check it out
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[16:40:14] <ellyjones> claudiodesouza: any specific one? every incoming ticket should be getting triaged
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[17:03:55] <claudiodesouza> ellyjones: http://crbug.com/811209
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[17:04:20] <claudiodesouza> I came across this last week, and I made sure I tested it in different computers/platforms
[17:04:29] <claudiodesouza> it works on all but Windows
[17:04:50] <claudiodesouza> I also made sure to try in different computers with Windows
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[17:05:02] <claudiodesouza> I think Nico Webber would know better about this
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[17:05:44] <claudiodesouza> I've thought of sending an email directly to him with the issue number, but I don't know if that would be appropriate
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[17:11:05] <ellyjones> I kicked it to thakis@ via the tracker
[17:11:30] <claudiodesouza> ellyjones: cheers
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[18:23:47] <ellyjones> is gerrit super slow for anyone else?
[18:23:53] <ellyjones> "remote: Processing changes" for over 60sec now
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[20:01:26] <jbroman> sheriffs: going to disable KioskTest.LaunchAppWithNetworkConfigAccelerator on msan; it frequently times out
[20:01:26] <trungl-bot> jbroman, hajimehoshi, liberato, treib: ^^^
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[21:06:40] <testerbeta> ellyjones torne thomasanderson i've got this
[21:06:41] <testerbeta> https://p.teknik.io/Raw/6xGWR
[21:06:50] <testerbeta> chromium 66.3345.0
[21:06:52] <testerbeta> canary tarbal
[21:06:55] <testerbeta> glibc 2.26
[21:07:03] <testerbeta> clang 6 (from google)
[21:07:35] <ellyjones> we don't build with gcc's headers afaik and it looks like you're trying to use them
[21:07:58] <testerbeta> ellyjones how can i fix it?
[21:08:18] <testerbeta> i use this as my buildscript (for canary)
[21:08:19] <testerbeta> https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=inox-edgy
[21:08:30] <testerbeta> and https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/chromium-dev/
[21:08:50] <testerbeta> setup, clang 6 (from google) and gnu libc (default c libraries)
[21:13:39] <testerbeta> pd ellyjones what could i do?
[21:14:32] <testerbeta> if i revert this commit (locally) https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/842496bfc1decdb40f596dd9f65beb8c9a462414%5E%21/#F0
[21:14:36] <testerbeta> can work?
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[21:15:02] <snkcld> i think i found a bug
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[21:15:54] <snkcld> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nvpgcvUa/
[21:16:08] <ellyjones> testerbeta: it's unlikely that that commit has anything to do with anything
[21:16:38] <snkcld> if you run chromium (and chrome too it seems) with TZ=:/etc/localtime then Intl.DateTimeFormat() says timezone is undefined
[21:16:46] <testerbeta> i've searched along all commit history (3344.0 to 3345.0 and this is the only commit with this file)
[21:16:58] <testerbeta> https://omahaproxy.appspot.com/changelog?old_version=66.0.3344.0&new_version=66.0.3345.0
[21:17:31] <ellyjones> snkcld: please file a bug: https://new.crbug.com
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[21:17:55] <testerbeta> done https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=811394
[21:19:08] <ellyjones> testerbeta: nobody's going to be able to look at that bug - something about your system is screwed up, that's why you keep having build errors
[21:19:24] <ellyjones> or rather, nobody is going to be able to help you on that bug
[21:19:31] <snkcld> ellyjones: thanks https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=811403
[21:20:02] <testerbeta> i didnt have troubles (rare) :)
[21:20:07] <testerbeta> only with python (old) gn error
[21:20:16] <testerbeta> and ooms (with use j8 works fine)
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[21:23:53] <testerbeta> and ellyjones NOW its a real bug (its calling functions that glibs doesnt has)
[21:24:19] <testerbeta> because my dmesg logs are fine (no traps-segfault, no ata errors)
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[21:28:10] <testerbeta> pd ellyjones at bugs.chromium.org may be extremely helpful a menu for build issues
[21:28:19] <testerbeta> use "install" as the bug reazon its a bit bad
[21:31:29] <thomasanderson> testerbeta: I would recommend removing use_custom_libcxx=false from your PKGBUILD
[21:31:34] <thomasanderson> It would make your life a lot easier :)
[21:33:08] <testerbeta> thomasanderson what does this flag?
[21:33:29] <thomasanderson> It will build with libc++ instead of libstdc++
[21:33:45] <testerbeta> pd
[21:33:56] <thomasanderson> We no longer have any more bots that do a libstdc++ build so that's why things keep regressing in that configuraiton
[21:33:59] <testerbeta> 3 questions, A this will only give me a speed bonus
[21:34:33] <testerbeta> B its free?, or i need be careful with my ram (fx 8350-4.1ghz, 16 ram, jobs 8)
[21:34:48] <testerbeta> C could fix my issue https://p.teknik.io/Raw/6xGWR
[21:35:02] <thomasanderson> A: It will likely give a small speedup
[21:35:15] <thomasanderson> B: There's ~20 source files, so it's not a big deal for ram
[21:35:18] <thomasanderson> C: Probably
[21:35:26] <testerbeta> i'll test now
[21:36:42] <testerbeta> thanks
[21:37:10] <testerbeta> if works i'll report it :)
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[22:10:51] <capin> hello 👋 , new to using chromium here, so far have been enjoying my experience, but I'm unable to watch netflix 🙈 I'm running chromium on macOS installed via homebrew, and it's my understanding netflix uses some DRM called webvine, how would I go about getting this setup?
[22:13:28] <juliatuttle> capin: this is the channel for developing chromium; you want #chromium-support
[22:13:43] <juliatuttle> capin: (also you should know many irc users can't see emoji)
[22:14:11] <juliatuttle> capin: (also your easiest option by far is to install a stock google chrome build)
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[22:16:00] <capin> juliatuttle: understood. i'll head over to the the #chromium-support channel, and why would people not be able to support emoji's? isn't it just a super set of unicode?
[22:16:16] <ellyjones> a lot of us are using terminals that can't render them
[22:16:18] <ellyjones> (like me for example)
[22:16:23] <Torne> many irc clients aren't even configured properly to support unicode at all :)
[22:16:25] <ellyjones> so it shows up as a bunch of blank space for me
[22:16:28] <juliatuttle> emoji is a subset of unicode, but some terminals don't render unicode, or don't render some parts of it
[22:16:44] <Torne> and lots of emoji are in the astral planes which are less well supported
[22:16:55] <juliatuttle> so I tend to use either ascii (\o) or slack text shortcuts (:see_no_evil:)
[22:17:45] <capin> and i have the Google release of Chrome installed, I'd just rather prefer to use one browser. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the whole "one browser to rule them all"thing.
[22:18:56] <capin> well I'd suggest termite & weechat for you dinasours.
[22:19:48] <juliatuttle> I am quite happy with ssh, screen, and irssi
[22:19:51] <ellyjones> what is this "termite"
[22:19:54] <juliatuttle> somehow emoji do actually work for me
[22:19:57] <juliatuttle> ellyjones: they're bugs that eat wood
[22:19:59] <ellyjones> if it's newer than xterm I don't want any of it :)
[22:20:02] <juliatuttle> ellyjones: would not recommend
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[22:22:56] <capin> juliatuttle: why would use screen, when tmux is available?
[22:23:11] <juliatuttle> works well enough?
[22:23:17] <ellyjones> at least for me I've been using screen for more than 20 years and I have no real need to switch
[22:23:22] <ellyjones> same reason I still use ksh :P
[22:23:36] <juliatuttle> I interned at MIT CSAIL sometime in the early 2000s and there was someone there using twm unironically
[22:23:40] <capin> you guys are indeed some dinasours
[22:23:57] <Torne> tmux doesn't support splitting windows in the way i want
[22:23:58] <juliatuttle> I am neither! (and it's spelled "dinosaur")
[22:24:01] <ellyjones> can confirm, I regularly use my long neck to reach succulent leaves at the top of trees
[22:24:02] <Torne> so i'm stuck with screen forever
[22:24:11] <juliatuttle> ellyjones: aw shit hook me up
[22:24:18] <ellyjones> :)
[22:24:21] <juliatuttle> ellyjones: these insects are getting boring
[22:24:25] <ellyjones> mac dev sync time, see you all
[22:24:25] <claudiodesouza> flame wars!!!
[22:24:30] <ellyjones> don't even
[22:24:33] <ellyjones> no flame wars here :P
[22:24:38] <claudiodesouza> haha
[22:24:41] <claudiodesouza> just bantering
[22:24:47] <juliatuttle> anyway, if screen ever doesn't do what I want, I'd look at tmux
[22:24:59] <capin> and I was using screen + irssi combo forever as well, and then I switched to tmux + weechat.
[22:25:23] <juliatuttle> same as keyboards -- plain qwerty worked fine for me until my hands started getting sore
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[22:25:34] <juliatuttle> so *then* I invested the effort to learn one of the weird ergonomic ones
[22:25:38] <capin> i'll venture to say weechat has a better plugin arch, and has more plugins available
[22:25:43] <Torne> irc is too dead for me to go through the trouble of changing to another client, and tmux's ui is wrong
[22:25:56] <claudiodesouza> juliatuttle: what layout do you use now?
[22:26:14] <capin> uhhh how is tmuxs ui wrong?
[22:26:26] <Torne> it doesn't support splitting the display and switching windows independantly
[22:26:41] <Torne> it considers layouts higher level
[22:26:54] <juliatuttle> claudiodesouza: I use a Kinesis Advantage2, which is QWERTY but in a weird shape
[22:27:08] <juliatuttle> claudiodesouza: https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/
[22:27:28] <juliatuttle> claudiodesouza: they're rather popular among googlers; they're basically the standard "my regular keyboard hurts" alternative
[22:27:52] <claudiodesouza> I would never thought so... looks quite different to be honest
[22:27:58] <claudiodesouza> I sometimes have pain on my shoulder
[22:28:20] <claudiodesouza> and I use a Das Keyboard, so I have been thinking on how to improve this
[22:28:46] <claudiodesouza> I will take a look on some reviews later
[22:28:57] <juliatuttle> my own pain was the thumb muscle getting cranky from bending to hit modifiers, so I dunno about shoulder stuff
[22:29:14] <juliatuttle> but if you're in this industry, you should be super careful with your typing body parts; you only get one
[22:29:18] <testerbeta> ellyjones what client? (i use pidgin only because support my kde theme)
[22:29:46] <claudiodesouza> juliatuttle: haha... writting C++ all day, the most verbose of them all
[22:29:51] <juliatuttle> yeah x.x
[22:30:10] <juliatuttle> I think my one nit with C++ and this keyboard is that ~ is a kind of awkward reach with my left pink
[22:30:13] <juliatuttle> *pinky
[22:30:17] <juliatuttle> I guess I could remap it somewhere
[22:30:37] <claudiodesouza> mac keyboards have it near the shift, which is quite neat
[22:30:43] <juliatuttle> huh
[22:30:55] * juliatuttle looks
[22:30:55] <claudiodesouza> ~ is near the shift key on mac layout
[22:31:04] <claudiodesouza> at least in the UK
[22:31:06] <juliatuttle> oh!
[22:31:39] <juliatuttle> huh, their website shows shots of the us layout
[22:33:21] <claudiodesouza> does anyone know if Nico is around here... I know he's quite busy, but I just wanted to go over some questions with him
[22:34:26] <claudiodesouza> ahh.... why doesn't clang use gn rather than cmake... gn is so easy
[22:34:31] <juliatuttle> HEH
[22:34:33] <juliatuttle> ER
[22:34:34] <juliatuttle> heh
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[22:49:20] <LFP6> I'm completely baffled... Sometimes Chrome is paying attention to the ETag headers being sent, and other times its just pulling from disk. Any clue why?
[22:50:26] <LFP6> This smells an awful lot like a bug, but I'm a little lenient about filing if there's something obvious off in my setup
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[23:29:46] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[23:30:04] <juliatuttle> it is!
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[23:31:23] <LFP6> > Repeatedly banging head to consistently reproduce bug
[23:31:38] * juliatuttle places a pillow on LFP6's desk
[23:31:44] <LFP6> Heh
[23:31:53] <LFP6> Any of you happen to run into etag issues lately?
[23:32:04] <juliatuttle> nah
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[23:42:13] <jbroman> EST sheriff signing off
[23:42:32] <juliatuttle> see ya
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[23:44:26] <claudiodesouza> cheers
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