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[00:59:34] <analogical> I'm on Ubuntu. I how do I make Chromium always start in incognito mode??
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[01:26:06] <leiz> analogical: Run with --incognito, of course. Also see /topic
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[02:00:41] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "Failure reason,steps,First build" on "Deterministic Linux" alancutter at chromium dot org,apacible@chromium.org,depot-tools-chromium-autoroll@skia-buildbots.google.com.iam.gserviceaccount.com,eostroukhov@chromium.org,hnakashima@chromium.org,hs1217.lee@samsung.com,jfernandez@igalia.com,pdfium-chromium-autoroll@skia-buildbots.google.com.iam.gserviceaccount.com,skia-chromium-
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[02:02:43] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Automatic: ♪d(´▽`)b♪オールオッケィ♪)
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<trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on https://build.chromium.org/p/chromium/builders/Linux%20x64/builds/58341 "Linux x64" from 5a06b7eaf30cf21739a6fa8040bf90646cfd5266: apacible at chromium dot org,hs1217.lee@samsung.com,jam@chromium.org (:jam2),jming at chromium dot org,xunjieli@chromium.org)
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[02:19:50] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Automatic: (゚д゚) )
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[02:35:57] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by megjablon at google dot com: Tree is open (looks like another build flake)
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[03:29:32] <analogical> leiz, what about the /topic ??
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[05:06:06] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by ksakamoto at google dot com: Tree is open (Mac build error fixed)
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[06:13:55] <mystica555> What is "TaskSchedulerSi" and why is it every few seconds chewing upto 900 megabytes of RSS and freeing it just as fast?
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[06:20:41] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by ksakamoto at google dot com: Tree is open (Mac / Linux build fixed)
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[09:00:28] <olka> Morning! EMEA sheriff.
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[10:28:12] <Tazmain> Hi all, I have a question if someone knows, why did chrome make it harder to view a website's certificate, I mean certificate pinning is a thing since someone can issue a cert in the same domain. SO why make it hard to see the certificate info and thumbprint now?
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[12:59:12] <Tazmain> Hi all, is chrome's devtools written in C++ ? or js ?
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[14:28:26] <rufino> Hello guys!
[14:28:31] <rufino> I'm executing the browser_tests
[14:28:57] <rufino> and a large number of test fails and the tests ends with the following error:
[14:29:25] <rufino> [761/7645] IndependentOTRProfileManagerTest.OriginalProfileDestroyedFirst (TIMED OUT)
[14:29:26] <rufino> [ RUN ] IndependentOTRProfileManagerTest.OriginalProfileDestroyedFirstTwoOTR
[14:29:26] <rufino> [762/7645] IndependentOTRProfileManagerTest.OriginalProfileDestroyedFirstTwoOTR (TIMED OUT)
[14:29:26] <rufino> Too many badly broken tests (752), exiting now.
[14:29:26] <rufino> Sending SIGTERM to 4 child processes... done.
[14:29:26] <rufino> Giving processes a chance to terminate cleanly... done.
[14:29:28] <rufino> Sending SIGKILL to 4 child processes... done.
[14:29:30] <rufino> [0208/154401.544618:ERROR:kill_posix.cc(84)] Unable to terminate process group 26731: No such process (3)
[14:29:32] <rufino> [0208/154401.544763:ERROR:kill_posix.cc(84)] Unable to terminate process group 26707: No such process (3)
[14:29:36] <rufino> [0208/154401.544995:ERROR:kill_posix.cc(84)] Unable to terminate process group 26713: No such process (3)
[14:29:38] <rufino> [0208/154401.545133:ERROR:kill_posix.cc(84)] Unable to terminate process group 26703: No such process (3)
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[14:30:10] <rufino> do any of you guys know how can I fix this?
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[15:42:46] <maruel> rufino: try browser_tests --gtest_filter=IndependentOTRProfileManagerTest.OriginalProfileDestroyedFirst
[15:42:50] <maruel> so you only run a single test case
[15:43:11] <maruel> there's also a flag to not use subprocess sharding but I forget the name
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[16:02:39] <mcnee> EST sheriff here
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[16:30:05] <olka> hi
[16:32:27] <mcnee> Hi.
[16:37:07] <ellyjones> I think I have a proper fix that doesn't involve disabling tons of tests
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[16:39:27] <mcnee> ellyjones: Thanks.
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[16:40:50] <ellyjones> (in the process I'll remove your DCHECK from yesterday)
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[16:41:36] <ellyjones> er, remove your removal of same
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[16:43:19] <mcnee> Great. Thanks.
[16:44:23] <rufino> maruel: i tried this parameter and it gave me the same errors
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[17:10:50] <ellyjones> heh, this is amusing
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<ellyjones> olka: every test you mentioned as flaky in https://crbug.com/810139 was on my hotlist of tests that are broken on 10.13
[17:11:16] <ellyjones> I think infra has started rolling out 10.13 waterfall bots maybe :)
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[17:16:31] <olka> makes sense!
[17:16:42] <olka> Thanks for taking care of them!
[17:19:53] <ellyjones> no problem
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[17:22:05] <olka> EMEA sheriff signing off
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[17:22:51] <ellyjones> later EMEA sheriff!
[17:23:25] <olka> have a good day!
[17:23:26] <boomclick> does anyone know how to use the --daemon switch on chromium from linux command line?
[17:24:30] <ellyjones> we don't have such a switch
[17:24:54] <ellyjones> can you explain what you're trying to do?
[17:26:09] <ellyjones> ah, I see
[17:26:10] <boomclick> im trying to run chromium on a headless raspberry pi, connecting to chromium through the browser of another computer on the network.
[17:26:23] <ellyjones> that code is trying to automatically extract switches from the source tree and doing a bad job
[17:26:52] <ellyjones> anyway, "daemon" is actually an *option* value for one of chrome remote's internal helper processes
[17:26:57] <ellyjones> you can't use it directly
[17:27:11] <boomclick> is there a better list of switches?
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[17:27:41] <ellyjones> no - we don't publish one
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[17:29:15] <boomclick> is there any way for me to launch chromium on the command line, and use it from another computer?
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[17:34:07] <ellyjones> you can probably achieve something like that using X forwarding
[17:34:18] <ellyjones> but what you've described doesn't really exist, no
[17:34:49] <boomclick> well, thank you for your help.
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[17:39:37] <trungl-bot> megjablon, mcnee, ksakamoto, olka: ^^^
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[19:12:53] <mcnee> EST sheriff back from lunch
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[19:23:05] <ellyjones> welcome back
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<trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on https://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.win/builders/WinMSVC64%20%28dbg%29/builds/2743 "WinMSVC64 (dbg)" from 0e807f579071e6119f8f8df931a9f67ff9ef1ae5: agrieve at chromium dot org,cfroussios@chromium.org,domlaskowski@chromium.org,eirage@chromium.org,fs@opera.com,jam@chromium.org (:jam2),katie at chromium dot org,lukasza@chromium.org,mcasas@chromium.org,mcnee@chromium.or
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[20:48:39] <chromeusr> hi, how come that chrome runs extensions of other profiles which are not active /
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[20:51:10] <mcnee> Failure appears pdf related. Probably the roll.
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<trungl-bot> Tree closed by mcnee at google dot com: Tree is closed (Appears to be the pdfium roll) (Automatic: "compile" on https://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.win/builders/WinMSVC64%20%28dbg%29/builds/2743 "WinMSVC64 (dbg)" from 0e807f579071e6119f8f8df931a9f67ff9ef1ae5: agrieve at chromium dot org,cfroussios@chromium.org,domlaskowski@chromium.org,eirage@chromium.org,fs@opera.com,jam@chromium.org (:jam2),katie at chromium dot org,lukasza@chromium.org,mcasas@chr
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[20:57:28] <chromeusr> i thought a profile needs to be inactive unless i specificly go to it
[20:58:01] <Torne> chromeusr: chrome doesn't quite support shutting profiles down
[20:58:15] <Torne> so once you've opened a window associated with a given profile, that profile will stay loaded until the entire browser quits
[20:58:24] <chromeusr> i see, good to know
[20:58:34] <Torne> it doesn't load them until the first time they're used, though
[20:59:10] <chromeusr> well guess it's always on for me, cause i never fully close chrome
[20:59:17] <chromeusr> and i have differnet profile for differnet sites
[21:00:40] <Torne> yeah. unfortunately there's a long tail of work to be done to make it actually safe to unload a profile entirely
[21:00:53] <Torne> and nobody has gone through and fixed the large list of things required :/
[21:01:24] <mcnee> I've reverted the pdfium roll. Is that enough to reopen the tree? I've never dealt with a roll failure before.
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[21:02:54] <chromeusr> Torne: what are the sideeffects for this ? extensions are still loaded in the background, cookies (one that are per session) aren't cleared till i restart the browser ?
[21:03:01] <Torne> yup
[21:03:20] <chromeusr> anything else you can think of ?
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[21:05:26] <Torne> all the data about that profile that's stored in ram is still taking up ram, etc
[21:07:23] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mcnee at google dot com: Tree is open (pdfium roll reverted)
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[21:18:44] <rhinoceros> Hi! What is the easier way to go from a fixed issue in the bug tracker to the corresponding release that contains the fix? I'm a bit lost in all the trackers/repos/tools used by the chromium development process.
[21:19:09] <Torne> if you have a checkout, git find-releases does that
[21:19:19] <Torne> i don't know if there's a good way to get a conclusive answer otherwise
[21:20:06] <Torne> also it depends if you care about the exact build or just "this will be released in version 66", which is much easier to answre
[21:21:19] <rhinoceros> the generic version is already given in the bug tracker through the tagging system. I would have like to get a more precise information such as 62.0.3202.62
[21:22:10] <Torne> those labels are not always consistent; they are sometimes aspirational or misused
[21:22:29] <rhinoceros> ow, good to know
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[21:24:46] <Torne> rhinoceros: oh neat omahaproxy does have git find-releases in it
[21:24:54] <Torne> i guess i haven't looked for a while
[21:25:10] <Torne> stick the sha1 of the commit you're interested in in "Find releases"
[21:25:17] <Torne> and it'll tell you what version(s) that went into
[21:27:50] <rhinoceros> wow, that look exactly like what I am looking for!
[21:27:58] <rhinoceros> thank you!
[21:28:11] <Torne> yeah i didn't know that was added to the web interface
[21:28:22] <Torne> since i just use git find-releases locally
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[21:29:02] <Torne> so now i know for next time someone asks :)
[21:30:27] <rhinoceros> There should be some kind of index/map of tools available, it is kind of hard to get into the chromium development process and know where to look for information
[21:32:03] <Torne> well we have several, you just need an index to find where those are :)
[21:32:21] <rhinoceros> :)
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[21:39:22] <rhinoceros> wow that dash is great too, is the releases' schedule reliable ?
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[21:47:30] <Torne> schedules are rough goals
[21:47:43] <Torne> releases happen when release managers are happy with it
[21:48:01] <Torne> but we're pretty good at this after 60-odd versions and most releases happen approximately when the schedule says
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[22:04:12] <rhinoceros> perfect then, thank you a lot for your help Torne :)
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