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[00:17:06] <szager_trooper> thakis: Restarting fyi now..
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[00:41:58] <thakis_> gen\content/common/render_frame_setup.mojom-internal.h(10,10) : fatal error(clang): 'mojo/public/interfaces/application/service_provider.mojom-internal.h' file not found
[00:42:01] <thakis_> on the chromium fyi bot
[00:42:03] <thakis_> jamesr_: ^
[00:42:10] <thakis_> win/clang fyi bot, that is
[00:42:12] <thakis_> http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.fyi/builders/CrWinClang%28shared%29/builds/113/steps/compile/logs/stdio
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[00:47:00] <tommycli__> Android Tests is failing on the chrome_proxy step
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[00:48:06] <tommycli__> i think https://codereview.chromium.org/743463003
[00:48:19] <tommycli__> dpranke: i'm going to revert
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[00:50:29] <tommycli__> actually looks like dpranke may have already committed the fix?
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[00:51:18] <tommycli__> looks like fix didn't take
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[00:51:56] <tommycli__> reverting both of dpranke's patches unfortunately
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[00:55:29] <yzshen> Hi, anyone knows how to run *modified* build master/slave locally? I tried the instructions on the following page, but it synced from the repo and wiped out my local change:
[00:55:47] <yzshen> http://www.chromium.org/developers/testing/chromium-build-infrastructure/getting-the-buildbot-source/running-a-buildbot-instance
[00:55:54] <yzshen> Thanks!
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[01:11:14] <thakis_> anyone here familiar with checklicenses?
[01:11:25] <thakis_> i’m trying to roll a third-party dep and checklicenses is failing on me
[01:11:26] <thakis_> http://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.linux/builders/linux_chromium_chromeos_rel/builds/12945/steps/checklicenses%20%28with%20patch%29/logs/stdio
[01:11:59] <scottmg> thakis_: it's probably because there's something that looks likea license in that file, but isn't
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[01:12:07] <scottmg> i had that before, the matcher is quite dumb
[01:12:13] <thakis_> indeed, that file doesn’t have a license :-(
[01:12:14] <thakis_> sigh
[01:12:18] <scottmg> oh, or that :)
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[01:15:28] <thakis_> filed https://code.google.com/p/libphonenumber/issues/detail?id=560
[01:15:34] <thakis_> the process is working, i guess
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[01:16:04] <scottmg> indeed a near disaster was narrowly averted
[01:16:26] <thakis_> my velocity is so high, it’s dying of oxygen shortage
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[01:16:48] <scottmg> :)
[01:17:02] <scottmg> i was feeling that way this morning when fixing a zlib build issue for the Nth time in the Mth build system
[01:17:26] <scottmg> only to find it was fixed in a shiny fork
[01:17:28] <thakis_> hey, sorry for breaking that
[01:17:39] <thakis_> i fixed something with me breaking it too though
[01:17:40] <scottmg> i think you fixed it, didn't you?
[01:17:43] <scottmg> :)
[01:17:48] <scottmg> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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[01:18:09] <thakis_> maybe you want to chime in at the bottom of https://codereview.chromium.org/678423002/
[01:18:29] <thakis_> i don’t understand why we added all that not-even-merged-in-upstream intrinsic stuff in the first place
[01:18:46] <scottmg> ROBOHORENTZ
[01:18:51] <dcheng_> Is that the sse2/aes-ni optimizations?
[01:18:52] <scottmg> THINK OF ALL THE BEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:19:06] <scottmg> i mean, they're robotic bees
[01:19:10] <scottmg> so.
[01:19:14] <scottmg> pretty cool.
[01:19:40] <thakis_> “my velocity is so high, its blood is boiling (because of the armstrong limit)” is an iterative improvement on my earlier quip
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[01:20:26] <scottmg> i'd have to vote for the first as being more pithy
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[01:20:53] <thakis_> fine, iterative enworsement then
[01:21:02] <scottmg> pls revert
[01:27:03] <maruel> yzshen: there's an hidden environment variable
[01:27:17] <maruel> but I forgot the name
[01:27:33] <yzshen> maruel: :D
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[01:28:29] <thakis_> yzshen: if you look for ‘master.cfg’ in /home/thakis/notes.txt (if you’re on corp), you might find my notes on this
[01:29:13] <thakis_> yzshen: (i’m not on corp, so i’m not sure if i actually made notes on this, but i remember struggling with doing this for a bit and then figuring it out some months ago, and i usually note down commands in cases like that)
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[01:29:45] <yzshen> thakis_, Thanks. I will try to access to doc now...
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[01:33:10] <yzshen> thakis_, I looked at the two occurrences of master.cfg, but they didn't seem relevant to this problem to me.
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[01:33:25] <thakis_> yzshen: maybe look for “local master"?
[01:33:32] <thakis_> or “master locally"
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[01:39:01] <yzshen> thakis_: I didn't find either of them. I saw your commands for starting server/slave locally, but didn't find information related to how to preserve local changes.
[01:39:03] <yzshen> :/
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[01:41:02] <yzshen> thakis_, :D Thanks!
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[01:47:56] <maruel> yzshen: look at build/slave/run_slave.py
[01:48:03] <maruel> grep for os.environ
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[01:49:54] <yzshen> maruel: looking. Thanks!
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[01:58:49] <yzshen> maruel: still not sure which env var is relevant... (Btw, I tried the --no-gclient-sync commandline flag (by adding it in slave/Makefile). That didn't work, either.)
[02:00:03] <thakis_> in case people are reading irc more than email: there’s apparenlty network maintenance being done from 5pm (now) to 7pm (in 2h)
[02:00:14] <thakis_> so if bots act up during that time, it’s for once expected
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[02:07:07] <sky_> sync tests are not happy on mac, but I don't see anything that looks related.
[02:07:55] <thakis_> sky_: does the error on http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.fyi/builders/CrWinClang%28shared%29/builds/113/steps/compile/logs/stdio look familiar to you?
[02:07:57] <thakis_> gen\content/common/render_frame_setup.mojom-internal.h(10,10) : fatal error(clang): 'mojo/public/interfaces/application/service_provider.mojom-internal.h' file not found
[02:08:02] <thakis_> (you’re on mojo, right?)
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[02:30:26] <tommycli__> sheriffs: Okay I'm off. channel is sheriff.
[02:30:26] <trungl-bot> sky, tommycli, machenbach, yukishiino: ^^^
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[02:36:27] <tommycli__> troopers: Official Mac buildbot looks broken, but the changes look okay
[02:36:27] <trungl-bot> szager: ^^^
[02:37:00] <tommycli__> error: File /Volumes/data/b/build/slave/google-chrome-rel-mac/build/src/out/Release/Google Chrome Framework.framework/Versions/Current/Frameworks doesn't exist
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[02:38:44] <tytan> Is this about the open source web browser?
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[02:41:01] <tytan> I'd like to know if or when there will be a 64 bit version for Debian ^^
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[02:42:14] <dpranke> tytan: I believe there is and has been a 64-bit version for Debian for a long time?
[02:43:37] <tytan> Chromium says it's 64 bit when I check it. But is it really 64 bit or just able to work in a 64 bit environment?
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[02:44:32] <dpranke> it is really 64 bit
[02:45:02] <dpranke> we also have a separate 32-bit version
[02:45:16] <tytan> nice to know. thank you :)
[02:45:34] <tytan> Since this is NOT a support channel ... What is it about?
[02:45:38] <dpranke> you're welcome
[02:45:46] <dpranke> this is the channel for people that actually develop chrome
[02:45:57] <dpranke> (and chromium)
[02:46:04] <tytan> Oh, then I'm "wrong" in here ^^;
[02:48:02] <dpranke> no worries
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[03:16:26] <martyj-o> Is there like a "Mozilla Developer Network" but for Chromium?
[03:16:32] <martyj-o> Essentially, "the manual".
[03:16:53] <martyj-o> Even the command line arguments to Chromium seem to be listed on some personal website: peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/
[03:19:23] <dcheng_> martyj-o: Not that I know of.
[03:19:56] <martyj-o> dcheng_: How do you find out about stuff?
[03:20:05] <dcheng_> martyj-o: The spec... and MDN =P
[03:20:10] <martyj-o> :/
[03:21:07] <dcheng_> martyj-o: What are you looking for?
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[03:43:14] <martyj-o> dcheng_: Just a reference.
[03:43:17] <martyj-o> Easy to look up, etc.
[03:43:24] <martyj-o> To know what I can actually do.
[03:43:29] <martyj-o> What Chromium supports, etc.
[03:43:37] <martyj-o> Seems idiotic to use a competitor's site.
[03:43:46] <martyj-o> And looking in the "compatibility table".
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[03:44:49] <leiz> martyj-o: https://www.chromestatus.com/features may be helpful
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[03:45:53] <XDS2010_> anyone able to get WideVineCDM installed in the windows version of chromium ?
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[03:55:27] <martyj-o> leiz: Might be, but damn is that one sluggish-feeling webpage.
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[03:56:48] <leiz> martyj-o: loads fine here. *shrug*
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[04:09:28] <martyj-o> leiz: meant when you type in stuff, etc.
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[04:26:44] <martyj-o> s there a way to start Chromium not only showing the developer tools, but specifically showing the "console" tab? It would save me one click times 5 billion. 5 billion being the expected number of times I will launch my game for testing until it's done.
[04:26:46] <martyj-o> *Is
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[04:33:44] <jcvfen> hold pointer still http://www.pointerpointer.com/
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[12:07:24] <tommy``> hi
[12:07:33] <tommy``> how can i bypass geolocalization of a website?
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[12:12:08] <predmijat> hi, how can i ENABLE sslv3 in the newest version of chromium? i need to access a https page, and i get an error - "Error code: ERR_SSL_FALLBACK_BEYOND_MINIMUM_VERSION"
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[12:41:39] <maruel> predmijat: search on your favorite search engine for the answer
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[13:47:06] <elevres> when will beta channel promoted to 40 ?
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[14:00:44] <sankar_> whats the relationship between cef and chromium?
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[14:10:22] <finnur> Any troopers around?
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[14:26:47] <phajdan-jr> finnur: yes
[14:27:25] <finnur> phajdan-jr: I wanted to check on the state of chromium.chrome bot 'Google Chrome Mac'. It has been failing consistently with some weird compile failure...
[14:27:25] <finnur> Wondering if it needs to be kicked or something?
[14:30:40] <phajdan-jr> finnur: what do you mean by kicked? it's not obvious what's wrong with this bot
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[14:33:52] <finnur> phajdan-jr: Kicked as in restarted or something -- precesiely because it is not obvious what is wrong with it. :)
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[14:35:03] <phajdan-jr> finnur: I don't think restart would fix it; it's probably worth investigating more before rebooting blindly
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[14:36:04] <finnur> I'm fine with that, but I've already investigated it and not reached any conclusion. The CLs don't seem related to the failure.
[14:36:22] <phajdan-jr> does it repro locally?
[14:38:28] <finnur> phadjan-jr: To test I only have a slow Mac laptop that's not up to date. I don't think I'd get results before needing to leave today.
[14:38:53] <phajdan-jr> I see. How about just letting somene else investigate this?
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[15:36:37] <sky_> I have no idea on the sync integration tests.
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[15:37:37] <sky_> Boring SSL roll didn't seem to go through codereview, so has no try jobs.
[15:38:03] <sky_> Nope, I'm wrong. It has try jobs passing too.
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[15:42:26] <sky_> Ah, it must be debug specific, which no ones try job runs.
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[16:06:32] <rsesek> sheriffs_: I'm converting mac infra to x64 now
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[16:09:09] <rogerta> rsesek: what are the implications of that ?
[16:09:21] <rsesek> rogerta: full rebuilds but otherwise nothing, if all goes well
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[18:18:25] <petewil> Howdy Podners!
[18:18:34] <petewil> This PST sheriff is riding into town.
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[18:45:16] <mpearson> good morning chromium
[18:45:16] <trungl-bot> Good morning, mpearson!
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[18:47:26] <t4nk021> Good night chromium community, we are 2 students from A Coruña University. we need to resolve some doubts about the design project to a class work. Firstly we are interested to know, what's the typical methodology that you use to develop chromium?
[18:47:26] <trungl-bot> 'night, t4nk021.
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[18:51:56] <qengho> Six week cycles of three parallel tracks of stages. Add features in one development stage. Then mostly freeze them and only improve them in beta stage. Decide if it's good enough to go in to stable. Release stable and put only security fixes in that. Does that help?
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[18:54:43] <agable|trooper> sheriffs: Trooper here, triaging alerts now. Lemme know if you see something wrong.
[18:54:43] <trungl-bot> petewil, rogerta, mpearson, finnur: ^^^
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[19:01:18] <t4nk021> Thanks qenghho, but we want to know if you use some methodology, like scrum, xp, rup...
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[19:03:45] <maruel> t4nk021: you can't use scrum/xp with hundreds of devs across multiple companies
[19:03:49] <maruel> it just doesn't work that way
[19:04:01] <maruel> so it depends on the sub-group, per component
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[19:09:34] <t4nk021> Ok, thanks maruel. Now we want to know about the architecture, because we think that the general design architecture is a layers architecture
[19:10:24] <maruel> t4nk021: you'll have to read yourself, I can't spend time describing the architecture here
[19:10:32] <hansw> t4nk021: see http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents, and maybe in particular http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/multi-process-architecture
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[19:15:55] <t4nk021> A lot of thanks chromium community :)
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[19:38:07] <jamesr_> thakis: something's not right about the gyp dependencies for mojom files
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[19:38:40] <jamesr_> thakis: gyp is already pretty crazy and ncbray made this 10x more complicated to support mojo+nacl+gyp, which afaik isn't something we actually care about
[19:39:28] <jamesr_> thakis: render_frame_impl should have a build-time but not link-time dependency on the target that generates that mojom
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[19:39:49] <jamesr_> export_dependent_settings should forward the dependencies
[19:40:08] <thakis> undo ncbray’s thing then? :-)
[19:40:25] <jamesr_> yes
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[19:40:30] <jamesr_> assigned to nick to untangle that mess
[19:42:04] <jamesr_> ncbray: or if you want to try to make the dependencies in content/ correct with your gypi change feel free
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[19:46:06] <sL1pKn07> http://sl1pkn07.wtf/paste/view/9e4fdf23 in 41.0.2224.3 with clang 3.5.0-2.1 and glibc 2.20
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[19:48:05] <jamesr_> sL1pKn07: that's a pretty old sounding clang and a pretty old sounding glibc
[19:49:23] <sL1pKn07> old?
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[19:50:30] <jamesr_> old
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[19:51:40] <sL1pKn07> need a git/svn glibc?
[19:51:53] <sL1pKn07> 2014-09-07: glibc 2.20 released.
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[19:56:04] <maruel> sL1pKn07: glibc is out; it's all musl now.
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[19:59:12] <yzshen> maruel, thakis: The solution to the issue that I posted yesterday (how to run master&slave locally with modified code): commit the modification locally! :)
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[19:59:56] <yzshen> (Thanks Pawel for showing me that.)
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[20:00:03] <thakis> :-/
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[20:04:52] <benwilliamson> Hi, I’d like to understand why chromium on osx uses libstdc++4.2. Is it somehow because newer libstdc++ uses GPLv3?
[20:08:07] <thakis> benwilliamson: because the os x system libstdc++ is 4.2
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[20:08:26] <thakis> benwilliamson: i would guess apple doesn’t update it because it moved off of gcc
[20:08:49] <thakis> probably in part due to gplv3, and in part because gcc didn’t want to merge an llvm backend
[20:08:55] <thakis> so now apple has libc++
[20:09:02] <thakis> but that’s os x 10.7+
[20:09:08] <thakis> and we still want to support 10.6
[20:09:14] <benwilliamson> thakis: ah, I see, thanks
[20:09:59] <benwilliamson> thakis: So if I wanted to build chromium for 10.7+ against libc++, any anticipated problems?
[20:10:21] <thakis> we have a few bots that build with libc++, so it’d probably mostly Just Work
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[20:10:42] <benwilliamson> thakis: Excellent, that’s probably going to solve my problem, thanks
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[20:10:58] <thakis> you need to set the right gyp defines to tell the build system to target 10.7+, and to link to libc++
[20:11:06] <benwilliamson> thakis: btw, when 10.6 is dropped as a target, do you expect C++11 library features will be allowed in chromium code?
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[20:11:30] <sL1pKn07> [19:56:04] <maruel> sL1pKn07: glibc is out; it's all musl now. -> then need install 'musl'?
[20:11:44] <thakis> benwilliamson: look for CLANG_CXX_LIBRARY in build/common.gypi, it’s already set to libc++ in an ios block
[20:11:53] <benwilliamson> thakis: perfect, thanks
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[20:12:30] <thakis> benwilliamson: i doubt we’ll drop 10.6 support soon, it’s pretty popular still (or, conversely, newer os x versions aren’t convincing for users)
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[20:12:55] <thakis> benwilliamson: i’m kind of planning on bundling a libc++ with chromium, so we can use c++ library features way sooner than we drop 10.6 support
[20:13:00] <benwilliamson> ah, snow leopard was the last good one ;)
[20:13:18] <thakis> :-)
[20:13:24] <benwilliamson> oh, interesting, what features do you most want?
[20:13:35] <thakis> unique_ptr, probably :-P
[20:13:41] <benwilliamson> heh
[20:13:54] <thakis> unsorted_foo
[20:13:55] <rsesek> "snow leopard was the last good one " -- I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that :)
[20:14:16] <thakis> i always thought that was fairly universally accepted to be true :-)
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[20:14:30] <rsesek> I've warmed up to 10.9 though
[20:14:38] <thakis> err, unordered_foo i mean
[20:15:02] <benwilliamson> I see
[20:15:26] <benwilliamson> thanks thakis, I’ll go give this a whirl
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[20:17:35] <jadew> any idea why the policies for external extensions aren't working?
[20:17:36] <jadew> http://www.chromium.org/administrators/policy-list-3#ExtensionInstallSources
[20:17:52] <jadew> I tried to add the registry entries for that and it has no effect
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[20:21:45] <maruel> jadew: see topic
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[20:24:19] <jadew> well there's nobody answering in the extensions channel, ever
[20:24:23] <jadew> it's freaking useless
[20:24:44] <jadew> and since it's the dev. channel, maybe you have an idea on why that stupid policy isn't taking effect as it should
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[20:27:31] <jadew> *since this
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[20:35:36] <leiz> jadew: there's also an extensions / chrome apps mailing list
[20:36:11] <jadew> leiz, tbh, this doesn't seem like an extension development related problem anyway
[20:36:13] <petewil> jadew: The apps/extensions team also monitors stack overflow.
[20:36:46] <leiz> jadew: or try the chromium-discuss mailing list
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[20:37:12] <jadew> petewil, I actually found a stack overflow question which was answered with that policy modification
[20:37:18] <jadew> however, the modification doesn't work
[20:37:57] <petewil> jadew: We continue to monitor stack overflow, so if you post that it doesn't answer your problem, we should see it.
[20:38:09] <jadew> ok, thanks
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[20:43:32] <mpearson> agable (as trooper): can you look at apparently-hung Android Tests (dbg) bot?
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[20:45:31] <mpearson> agable: ^^^ (in case I need to do this to make your IRC client make noise)
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[20:56:03] <agable|trooper> mpearson: Anything with 'agable' or 'trooper' in it pings me :) I'll take a look
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[20:57:22] <jadew> ok, so I just clicked Reload policies and it looks like chrome doesn't even try to open the suggested registry paths
[20:57:39] <jadew> nothing that says "Google", "Chrome" or "Chromium"
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[20:57:59] <jadew> it only looks at system wide policies
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[20:59:55] <agable|trooper> mpearson: Should be back up now
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[21:00:40] <mpearson> agable: thanks. What about "iOS Device"?
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[21:01:04] <mpearson> agable: nevermind, it just started again one minute ago.
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[21:06:56] <agable|trooper> mpearson: Yeah, that's three main waterfall builders that share a single slave, so two of them are always lagging behind.
[21:07:29] <rsesek> agable|trooper: could you please review https://codereview.chromium.org/740263003/ ?
[21:07:43] <agable|trooper> mpearson: Trying to fix that here: crbug.com/433996
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[21:08:50] <agable|trooper> rsesek: Sorry, things have been a bit too on fire for me to get to my normal reviews :) LGTM!
[21:09:09] <rsesek> agable|trooper: understood, I'm fully decked out in my firefighter uniform right now, too
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[21:10:47] <mpearson> agable: good to know, thanks.
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[21:13:12] <jadew> what is GPO?
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[21:13:37] <jadew> I found this thing here: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=329130
[21:13:49] <jadew> which says policies cannot be edited via registry anymore
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[21:14:04] <jadew> yet, this page: http://www.chromium.org/administrators/policy-templates
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[21:14:11] <jadew> provides example for registry settings
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[21:17:17] <jadew> how does one edit policies? I can't find any straight answer to this simple question
[21:18:54] <jadew> instead I get tons of bullshit: https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/2657289?hl=en
[21:19:12] <jadew> am I to understand that editting policies is an online thing?
[21:20:32] <jadew> the links there are mindblowing
[21:20:41] <jadew> I click on extensions I get here: https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/index
[21:20:45] <jadew> is google trolling me?>
[21:20:53] <maruel> yes
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[21:45:49] <mpearson> agable: the official "Google Chrome Win" bot seems to be offline. Can you take al ook?
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[21:49:46] <ckocagil> jadew: docs are often outdated
[21:50:30] <jadew> ckocagil, yeah, I'm currently reading through a bug report related to this (quite an extensive discussion)
[21:51:04] <jadew> apparently, it can't be done anymore, not easily anwyay
[21:51:55] <jadew> can be done locally but with a lot of effort that I'm sure single users wouldn't go through, or remotely if the environment is controlled by active directory
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[21:52:44] <agable|trooper> mpearson: Looking
[21:52:48] <jadew> I'm still reading through that, but I think we'll just switch browsers, this thing is silly
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[21:53:43] <frain> Hello people
[21:53:43] <arnoud> Is it possible to take screenshots with chromium as a headless webbrowser? Want to make some screenshots from a bash scripts and like to modify the url and screensize (width x height)
[21:54:13] <jbroman> arnoud: look into chromedriver
[21:54:29] <frain> loooots of people here :D . windows, do I neeed to have msvc2013?
[21:54:42] <frain> couldn't msvc 2010 be enough?
[21:55:00] <agable|trooper> mpearson: It's running just fine :) Also, the term "official" bot is so overloaded I had to visit three waterfalls :)
[21:55:02] <arnoud> Tnx jbroman now on the project page I see it is selenium like...
[21:55:48] <jbroman> arnoud: chromedriver is the bridge between chrome and selenium
[21:56:06] <jamesr_> frain: 2010 doesn't work
[21:56:07] <awoloszyn> frain: Iirc the reason we can't use vs2010 anymore is because it doesn't support all of the features of C++11 that we are using.
[21:56:24] <arnoud> okey cool reading into the docs now.
[21:56:26] <frain> shiet... what about gcc?
[21:56:36] <jamesr_> not on windows
[21:57:06] <stip> agable|trooper: eyy trooper, does builder_alerts automatically sync itself?
[21:57:15] <frain> Compilin just with win sdk?
[21:57:27] <agable|trooper> stip: Yep. But it runs on top of refs/heads/deployed so you have to roll that forward.
[21:57:29] <stip> we bumped the threshold to 1.5 hours last night, but it's still showing alerts for bots that are offline for an hour
[21:57:40] <stip> ah ok
[21:57:51] <stip> agable|trooper: is that just a git push?
[21:57:56] <agable|trooper> stip: Yep
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[21:58:25] <stip> agable|trooper: are there instructions somewhere?
[21:58:40] <awoloszyn> frain: I think VS2013 community works.
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[21:58:58] <ckocagil> frain: you actually don't even need VS installed, it automagically installs a VS toolchain
[21:59:07] <scottmg> ckocagil: that's not true any more
[21:59:15] <scottmg> frain: follow http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-windows
[21:59:20] <ckocagil> noooo
[21:59:23] <scottmg> it has to be 2013 update4
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[21:59:25] <frain> I do have msvc, but my env varibales are *** up
[21:59:29] <stip> https://sheriff-o-matic.appspot.com/trooper is totally party timing right now :)
[21:59:31] <scottmg> express is dead
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[21:59:57] <ckocagil> well, then let's get clang up and running on win ASAP then
[22:00:00] <frain> will this work? http://i.imgur.com/ndzUQF1.png
[22:00:13] <frain> ckocagil, that would be awesome
[22:00:24] <scottmg> frain: no, update 4
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[22:00:35] <scottmg> 31101
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[22:01:35] <frain> Well thanks anyway , thanks guys
[22:02:04] <frain> can someone voice me please
[22:02:45] <frain> or at least ./kick frain Leaving with the style
[22:02:49] <scottmg> voice doesn't mean anything here, it's never muted
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[22:04:10] <frain> Have a nice life guys, see ya around smoetimes. Thanks for the browser :)
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[22:12:15] <jamesr_> technically +v is supposed to mean chromium committer here, but i doubt that's actually done
[22:12:21] <jamesr_> we never mute
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[22:40:44] <benwilliamson> thakis: Hi again, so I’ve added 'CLANG_CXX_LIBRARY': 'libc++' in common.gypi, but the build is now failing to find libc++ headers like <cstddef> etc. If I enable use_system_libcxx I get “clang: error: invalid deployment target for -stdlib=libc++ (requires OS X 10.7 or later)”. If I then set 'mac_deployment_target%': '10.9' I get a bunch of “error: 'SecKeychainSearchCreateFromAttributes' is deprecated: first
[22:40:45] <benwilliamson> deprecated in OS X 10.7 [-Werror,-Wdeprecated-declarations]” I think I’m doing this completely wrong…
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[22:42:24] <thakis> benwilliamson: use_system_libcxx shouldn’t make a difference if you added the CLANG_CXX_LIBRARY thing in the right place
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[22:42:35] <thakis> the wdeprecated-declarations stuff is probably real though
[22:42:42] <thakis> you can try building with warnings disabled
[22:43:02] <thakis> try changing your deployment target only to 10.7, then you might get fewer deprecation warnings
[22:43:03] <jamesr_> can we target the 10.7 SDK with libc++?
[22:43:30] <benwilliamson> thakis: thanks, will try
[22:43:44] <thakis> jamesr_: hm?
[22:44:09] <thakis> answer is probably “read scrollback from 11:08 am”
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[22:52:23] <ckocagil> trungl: whois ananta
[22:52:26] <jamesr_> ah yes indeed
[22:52:30] <ckocagil> trungl-bot: whois ananta
[22:52:31] <trungl-bot> ckocagil: It looks like ananta could be: ananta at chromium dot org / :iyengar / iyengar at google dot com.
[22:52:46] <ckocagil> sry trung
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[22:53:13] <jamesr_> thakis: how long do we expect to support 10.6 ?
[22:53:25] <thakis> jamesr_: longer than 10.7 or 10.8 :-/
[22:53:44] <jamesr_> hmm, because of h/w that can't update to 10.7/8?
[22:53:50] <jamesr_> or do we have users because other browsers have dropped 10.6?
[22:53:58] <thakis> ff still supports it
[22:54:11] <jamesr_> safari stopped though, right?
[22:54:50] <thakis> safari is ~bundled with the os
[22:54:58] <thakis> they always only support latest
[22:55:14] <thakis> and i think they ship different binaries to all the different os x’s
[22:57:22] <rsesek> yeah Apple still ships a WebKit.framework-per-os
[22:57:39] <rsesek> we'll be keeping 10.6 for the foreseeable future. we still have a large number of users on it
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[23:13:49] <mpearson> maruel: you there? We're seeing swarming failures, and agable thinks you may be the right person to talk to about them.
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[23:21:55] <mpearson> vadimsh: you there?
[23:22:06] <vadimsh> mpearson: yes
[23:22:39] <mpearson> vadimsh: We're seeing swarming failures. See https://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.memory/builders/Mac%20ASan%2064%20Tests%20(1)
[23:22:52] <mpearson> vadimsh: could you take a look?
[23:23:12] <mpearson> vadimsh: The shards that don't complete always fail with "Bot died (internal failure)".
[23:23:25] <vadimsh> looking
[23:23:33] <mpearson> vadimsh: FYI, I see only two different hostnames in these failures (vm813-m4 and vm816-m4), not sure if this small number of hostnames (out of six failures) is meaningful.
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[23:27:06] <vadimsh> yeah, looks like theses two bots in some weird state and can't create files "Internal exception occured: [Errno 22] invalid mode ('wb') or filename: '/Volumes/data/b/swarm_slave/work/test_run.json'"
[23:27:38] <vadimsh> I'll take them offline
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[23:29:29] <mpearson> vadimsh: thanks.
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[23:34:01] <ericandrewlewis> is it typical to be 25 minutes into a `fetch chromium` call?
[23:35:10] <thakis> yeah, that takes several hours on slow connections
[23:35:25] <thakis> and 30 min even on fairly fast ones
[23:35:30] <thakis> :-(
[23:36:05] <dcheng_> ericandrewlewis: It takes me ~35 minutes on my work machine
[23:36:33] <ericandrewlewis> word
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