November 6, 2014 
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Does anyone know how to tickle it to make it go again?[01:39:53] *** ananta has joined #chromium[01:42:10] <Mek> garykac: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/MZMnLOaeOg8/5ket8u9naGsJ might help?[01:42:12] *** ncapens has joined #chromium[01:42:20] <Mek> it supposedly explains how to run it locally[01:42:30] *** rsleevi has joined #chromium[01:42:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v rsleevi[01:42:38] <Mek> garykac: ah, https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/tree-sheriffs/sheriff-o-matic has actual docs for that[01:43:43] *** ncapens1 has quit IRC[01:44:37] *** jyasskin has joined #chromium[01:45:42] *** caitp has joined #chromium[01:46:28] *** glennflynn has quit IRC[01:50:41] *** jerrytgarcia has quit IRC[01:56:41] <garykac> mek: Thanks![01:59:28] *** lgarron has joined #chromium[01:59:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v lgarron[02:06:48] *** glennflynn has joined #chromium[02:06:49] *** haraken_ has joined #chromium[02:07:31] *** fasheng has joined 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IRC[05:04:55] *** ClarusCogitatio has quit IRC[05:10:20] *** ClarusCogitatio has joined #chromium[05:12:03] *** RingtailedFox has joined #chromium[05:16:51] *** tasak has quit IRC[05:19:09] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[05:35:38] *** tasak has joined #chromium[05:41:15] *** tommyliu_ has quit IRC[05:41:37] *** tommyliu has joined #chromium[05:45:23] *** hazardrix has joined #chromium[05:48:09] *** nomo has quit IRC[05:48:20] <hazardrix> Hi, is there some kind of Session identifier that is generated once Chromium starts? I'd need one to use inside Webkit core code. If there's none, I'd generate one myself.[05:50:44] *** caitp has quit IRC[05:51:13] *** corey84- has quit IRC[06:01:03] *** tommyliu_ has joined #chromium[06:01:32] *** kevers has quit IRC[06:01:42] *** dnicoara has quit IRC[06:01:50] *** hartmanng has quit IRC[06:01:50] *** tdresser has quit IRC[06:02:04] *** spang has quit IRC[06:02:08] *** bokan has quit IRC[06:02:17] *** fjhenigman has quit IRC[06:02:43] *** spang has joined #chromium[06:02:47] *** sadrulhc has quit IRC[06:04:12] *** tommyliu has quit IRC[06:06:20] *** rvargas_ has joined #chromium[06:06:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v rvargas_[06:06:32] *** sky_ has joined #chromium[06:06:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sky_[06:06:38] *** hendrikw__ has joined #chromium[06:06:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v hendrikw__[06:09:35] *** rvargas has quit IRC[06:09:35] *** sky__ has quit IRC[06:09:35] *** hendrikw_ has quit IRC[06:14:19] *** dnicoara has joined #chromium[06:14:27] *** kevers has joined #chromium[06:14:38] *** fjhenigman 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(I was recommended to use it but from their git page it seems not ready)[11:20:07] *** Liam` has quit IRC[11:23:39] *** jerrytgarcia has joined #chromium[11:24:10] *** havingFun has joined #chromium[11:26:01] *** havingFun is now known as xrosnight[11:26:47] *** caitp has joined #chromium[11:26:58] *** patro has quit IRC[11:28:33] *** tommyliu_ has quit IRC[11:31:10] *** caitp has quit IRC[11:36:13] *** sarri has quit IRC[11:37:21] *** sarri has joined #chromium[11:39:09] *** Mso150_o has quit IRC[11:45:30] *** ebraminio has quit IRC[11:49:57] *** __me is now known as ome[11:51:47] *** xrosnight has quit IRC[11:52:07] *** Liam` has joined #chromium[11:55:28] *** shreeramk_ has joined #chromium[11:55:35] <shreeramk_> scottmg: Hi[11:55:47] <shreeramk_> This issue started coming again[11:55:58] <shreeramk_> This seems to be the patch thts causing it[11:56:20] <shreeramk_> https://codereview.chromium.org/671433004[11:56:36] <shreeramk_> Could you please take a look and take the necessary steps[11:56:46] <shreeramk_> crbug.com/422794[12:03:31] *** tasak has quit IRC[12:05:03] *** ebraminio has joined #chromium[12:09:37] *** tmpsantos has joined #chromium[12:10:45] *** mavhc has quit IRC[12:26:20] <mdempsky> Do we have any standard techniques for ensuring a .o file always gets linked even when it's put into a .a?[12:27:30] <Torne> mdempsky: that should be the case already; gyp uses --whole-archive for linking[12:28:07] <Torne> however we also strip unused code with --gc-sections in many build configs..[12:28:49] <mdempsky> I'm seeing a .o file not get included unless I explicitly introduce a symbol to force it to get linked.[12:28:56] *** jiangj has quit IRC[12:29:02] *** FreezingCold has quit IRC[12:29:03] <Torne> what platform?[12:29:46] <Torne> Huh[12:30:00] <Torne> the ninja generator uses --whole-archive when linking a .so, but not when linking an executable[12:30:11] <mdempsky> Linux.[12:30:13] <Torne> so a .so will contain all of the code from the static libraries included, but an executable will not[12:30:32] <Torne> for executables we just use --start-group --end-group to resolve circular deps[12:30:40] <mdempsky> That seems to match what I'm seeing: I'm trying to build a unit test that depends on a static_library that contains a .o file that I need linked.[12:30:42] <Torne> so yeah, i'm not sure there is a way[12:31:05] <Torne> the linker command lines are hardcoded in the ninja generator[12:31:14] <Torne> you can add flags, but they may not end up in the right place to ahve the correct semantics..[12:31:27] <Torne> since ideally you'd want it just around $in[12:31:44] <Torne> why do you need it to pull in an object file taht you don't reference any symbols from?[12:32:15] <mdempsky> Because I've put a parameterized test in the .o file, and I'm trying to instantiate it elsewhere.[12:32:23] *** akurilin has quit IRC[12:32:36] <mdempsky> And the way gtest implements that doesn't involve any symbol dependencies.[12:32:50] <Torne> that seems like a bug in gtest ;)[12:33:07] <mdempsky> Shrug.[12:33:54] <mdempsky> I suppose I can try changing the static library into a component.[12:34:00] <mdempsky> Or shared library even.[12:34:01] <Torne> anyway i don't think we have a standard way to do this[12:34:10] <mdempsky> Okay.[12:34:25] <mdempsky> Thanks.[12:35:40] *** tmpsantos has quit IRC[12:35:59] <Torne> if you stick -Wl,--whole-archive in ldflags it might work[12:36:04] <Torne> but it may also have unintended side effects[12:36:17] *** FreezingCold has joined #chromium[12:36:35] <Torne> i think this problem either suggests that gtest doesn't intend to support this or that it has a bug, though :)[12:39:11] <mdempsky> I'm just following the "Creating Value-Parameterized Abstract Tests" explanation from the gtest AdvancedGuide page, so I believe they do intend to support it.[12:39:25] *** jiangj has joined #chromium[12:40:17] <Torne> sure, but i think they intend for it to be in one file generally[12:40:20] <mdempsky> "Sometimes you may want to define value-parameterized tests in a library and let other people instantiate them later."[12:40:23] <Torne> hm[12:40:40] <mdempsky> "You can instantiate the same abstract test case multiple times, possibly in different source files."[12:40:45] <Torne> yeah.[12:40:57] *** ricardotk has joined #chromium[12:40:59] <Torne> so if that doesn't create a symbol reference then that's kinda annoying and hard to use correctly[12:41:02] <Torne> so i'd call it a bug[12:43:45] <ebraminio> Where I should report Opera bugs that someone actually look at? Their Aura UI native themed form controls on RTL are being painful.[12:44:51] <Torne> https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/ i guess?[12:45:11] <ebraminio> Yes I tried that once[12:45:24] <Torne> well that appears to be their official bug reporting process[12:47:54] *** tmpsantos has joined #chromium[12:48:49] *** ClarusCogitatio has quit IRC[12:50:31] *** ClarusCogitatio has joined #chromium[12:57:10] *** mavhc has joined #chromium[12:57:27] *** caitp has joined #chromium[12:59:22] *** muelli has joined #chromium[13:02:17] *** caitp has quit IRC[13:02:40] *** vsevik has quit IRC[13:02:42] *** caitp has joined #chromium[13:03:07] *** krsacme_ has joined #chromium[13:05:14] *** binjin has joined #chromium[13:05:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v binjin[13:07:30] <krsacme_> Hi.. can anyone run below try jobs for 681733003? win_chromium_dbg linux_chromium_dbg mac_chromium_dbg[13:13:02] *** kapy has joined #chromium[13:14:50] <kapy> hello i want to contribute to v8 javascript engine, what is the channel name for it ?[13:14:58] *** dshwang has quit IRC[13:15:49] *** dpino has quit IRC[13:16:05] *** machty has quit IRC[13:17:30] <Torne> kapy: there isn't one afaik; v8 development is mostly coordinated on teh v8-dev mailing list[13:19:29] *** machty has joined #chromium[13:19:29] <kapy> ok, thanks +Torne[13:20:00] <kapy> why is there a + in front of many people's nick ?[13:22:12] <andern> because they are special[13:22:44] <Torne> the people with + are people who are chromium contributors[13:22:56] <Torne> approximately.[13:23:04] <kapy> ok[13:23:07] <kapy> nice[13:23:11] <Torne> it's "anyone connected from Google, and also people whose nicks are registered as being chromium project members" :)[13:23:42] <Torne> it's just a rough guideline for who hopefully knows what they're talking about :p[13:23:49] <andern> kapy: more general though, people who have a + in front of their nicks have a Voice, which means that they can speak if the channel operators moderate the channel (+m)[13:24:05] <andern> while un-voiced users can not[13:24:23] <Torne> yeah, but that is rarely used and generally voice status is just used as an arbitrary status symbol in most channels :)[13:24:31] <kapy> can they also be from outside google ?[13:24:32] <Torne> this is a slightly less arbitrary status symbol, but still[13:24:36] <Torne> yes, see me for example[13:24:49] *** mnissler has joined #chromium[13:25:37] <Torne> kapy: anyone connected from google has a hostname like @nat/google/* because we're all behind the same nat gateways[13:25:46] <kapy> ok[13:25:50] <Torne> but not everyone connects directly from work :)[13:27:49] <kapy> so what about other people that don't have +[13:28:16] <Torne> they're either random people, or people who haven't done the required magic to get chanserv to recognise them as project members, it's not automatic[13:28:22] <Torne> (unless you are connected from google)[13:29:31] <kapy> ok, so people with + are either from google or are the chromium project members, right[13:29:47] <Torne> yah, and people without might be project members anyway, or might not. :)[13:33:58] <kapy> ok[13:34:47] *** atrx has joined #chromium[13:39:25] *** corey84- has joined #chromium[13:39:36] *** cagedwisdom has quit IRC[13:39:39] *** lliabraa has joined #chromium[13:39:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v lliabraa[13:40:17] *** jrmuizel has joined #chromium[13:40:18] *** tpopela has quit IRC[13:40:21] *** mnissler has quit IRC[13:40:29] *** tpopela has joined #chromium[13:40:44] <kapy> i am looking through 'good first bugs' for chrome, i'm finding some bugs for older versions of chrome, why they are still there ?[13:41:08] *** glennflynn has joined #chromium[13:42:23] *** danielchow2011 has quit IRC[13:43:25] <Torne> because that hotlist is not really updated unless people happen to come across things[13:43:42] <Torne> if the bugs are reported on old version of chrome, they might still exist, or they may have been fixed (either under another bug, or by accident)[13:43:55] <Torne> if you retest and find the bug isn't reproducible any more, comment on the bug so we can close it.[13:44:39] <kapy> yeah sure, so the bugs for chrome 40 are the latest one ?[13:44:56] <Torne> most bugs come from the stable channel, since most people use the stable channel[13:44:59] *** caitp has quit IRC[13:45:55] <Torne> it doesn't really matter what version the bug was reported on, it only matters whether the bug still exists :)[13:46:31] <kapy> ok, i understand, the bugs come from different versions of chrome[13:47:23] <kapy> is there any documentation which can guide me through the code of chrome ?[13:49:40] <Torne> there are lots of design docs on chromium.org but not a lot of documentation that gives an overview[13:50:04] *** ebraminio has quit IRC[13:50:04] *** dpino has joined #chromium[13:51:20] *** jbauman_ has joined #chromium[13:52:04] *** jbauman has quit IRC[13:52:04] *** jbauman_ is now known as jbauman[13:54:43] <kapy> are there easy bugs for chromium that are assigned to beginners ?[13:57:36] *** jrmuizel has quit IRC[13:58:45] <phajdan-jr> kapy: have you compiled chromium? what are your goals? :)[13:59:26] <kapy> i have not yet compiled, still downloading it[13:59:44] <phajdan-jr> kapy: feel free to give https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=409862 a try; if you have questions, you can ping me[13:59:46] <kapy> I want to be a contributer to chromium project[13:59:47] *** sarri has quit IRC[14:00:52] *** fasheng has joined #chromium[14:01:16] <kapy> thanks, +phajdan-jr, i would love to work on it[14:01:31] *** sarri has joined #chromium[14:02:47] *** fasheng has quit IRC[14:03:18] *** fasheng has joined #chromium[14:04:50] *** fasheng has quit IRC[14:05:19] *** fasheng has joined #chromium[14:13:24] *** FreezingCold has quit IRC[14:17:41] *** dshwang has joined #chromium[14:21:58] *** petka_ has joined #chromium[14:22:39] *** atrx has quit IRC[14:22:57] *** SQL has joined #chromium[14:23:34] *** atrx has 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How do I synchronize my third party deps with the rest of the release so that I can run unit tests etc.?[19:03:04] *** vadimsh has joined #chromium[19:03:31] <Torne> you don't easily. :/[19:03:46] <Torne> therelease branch DEPS file is not updated.[19:03:57] <Torne> the real branch deps are internal[19:04:17] <Torne> typically people don't build/test branch cherrypicks :)[19:04:23] <kmarshall> O_O[19:04:38] <kmarshall> how do I know that I'm not going to blow up chromium with my changes? :)[19:05:28] <Torne> if it is a direct cherrypick of a change already in trunk we tend tp just assume it will be ok and wait to getmaol from tbe beta builders[19:06:19] <Torne> if it was a diffocult merge resolution it may be good to tesy but it isnt trivial, see internal source docs for where the branch buildspecs are[19:06:32] *** jyasskin has quit IRC[19:06:48] <zea> One thing to watch out for is the switch to C++11. I don't think m39 supports the C++11 constructs we've started introducing (e.g. override, nullptr, etc.)[19:07:04] *** marshallk has joined #chromium[19:07:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v marshallk[19:07:10] *** thakis_ has quit IRC[19:07:27] <marshallk> Sorry about that - got disconnected. Did you reply to my question?[19:07:50] *** kermit has joined #chromium[19:08:31] <Torne> can someone copypaste what i said? :)[19:08:33] <Torne> on phone.[19:08:44] <zea> [10:05] <Torne> if it is a direct cherrypick of a change already in trunk we tend tp just assume it will be ok and wait to getmaol from tbe beta builders[19:08:49] <zea> [10:06] <Torne> if it was a diffocult merge resolution it may be good to tesy but it isnt trivial, see internal source docs for where the branch buildspecs are[19:08:56] <zea> [10:06] <zea> One thing to watch out for is the switch to C++11. I don't think m39 supports the C++11 constructs we've started introducing (e.g. override, nullptr, etc.)[19:09:02] <zea> Done :-)[19:09:07] <marshallk> great, thanks.[19:09:42] *** darktears has quit IRC[19:09:58] <Torne> if it reassures you any i think experience shows we almost never break anything by just drovering changes :)[19:10:39] *** yzshen has joined #chromium[19:10:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v yzshen[19:10:56] <marshallk> I'm not an SVN committer so I don't think I can use drover[19:11:03] <marshallk> ?[19:11:22] <yzshen> Anyone knows how I can find out information related to a bot: OS/version/32or64bit?[19:11:35] <yzshen> For example, this one: http://build.chromium.org/p/client.mojo/builders/Mojo%20Linux[19:11:41] *** FreezingCold has joined #chromium[19:11:41] <yzshen> Thanks! :)[19:11:45] *** Shrooms` has quit IRC[19:12:02] <Torne> well droverdoesnt currently exist for git anyway :)[19:12:05] *** Shrooms` has joined #chromium[19:12:07] <Torne> hm[19:12:40] <Torne> i am not sure that the cq works for branch changes either[19:12:50] <Torne> for the same rrason you cant build locally.[19:13:05] <Torne> so you moght have to get someone with commit power to lqnd it anyway[19:13:14] *** litherum1 has joined #chromium[19:13:15] *** Shrooms` has quit IRC[19:13:21] *** litherum1 has quit IRC[19:13:31] *** litherum1 has joined #chromium[19:13:34] <marshallk> hrm[19:13:35] *** Shrooms has joined #chromium[19:14:59] <marshallk> I'll see if someone on my team can help me with this, then.[19:15:06] *** litherum has quit IRC[19:15:06] *** kermit has left #chromium[19:15:18] <Torne> my understanding may be outdated[19:15:33] <Torne> but was definitely true at some point :)[19:15:44] *** szager has quit IRC[19:16:38] *** mostynb has joined #chromium[19:18:32] *** FreezingCold has quit IRC[19:20:16] *** thakis_ has joined #chromium[19:21:19] *** kmarshall has quit IRC[19:21:36] <jonrossca> Torne: When I've used drover before the uploaded CL could be ran vs trybots.[19:22:02] <marshallk> one more question - what's a good resource to look at if the change *isn't* trivial?[19:22:13] *** SQL has quit IRC[19:22:40] *** litherum1 has quit IRC[19:22:51] *** litherum has joined #chromium[19:22:52] *** shreeramk_ has joined #chromium[19:24:19] *** Mso150_o has joined #chromium[19:24:25] *** szager has joined #chromium[19:24:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v szager[19:25:59] *** msanchez has quit IRC[19:27:09] *** anddam has joined #chromium[19:27:27] <anddam> hello, is there any difference in storeeed credentials between stable and dev channels?[19:27:51] <anddam> I switched to dev on OS X and now stable doesn't see any of the stored password even if those are still in system's Keychain (OS X)[19:28:30] <anddam> I guess dev changed something in the way it accesses or identifies the items in keychain[19:28:32] *** emcfins_ has quit IRC[19:28:32] <anddam> any hint?[19:29:00] <leiz> anddam: see /topic. If you /msg erikchen he might know[19:29:06] *** emcfins has joined #chromium[19:29:28] <Torne> jonrossca: huh. where does it get the branchspec from?[19:30:38] <anddam> leiz: as in chromium-support?[19:30:40] *** pandaant has quit IRC[19:31:02] *** pandaant has joined #chromium[19:31:18] <jonrossca> Torne: Not sure. I've only followed the drover steps on chromium. A reviewer had me run the bots.[19:32:07] *** phryk has quit IRC[19:32:41] *** emcfins_ has joined #chromium[19:32:55] *** emcfins has quit IRC[19:33:30] *** litherum has quit IRC[19:33:41] <jamie_m> anyone familiar with utility processes?[19:33:53] <jamie_m> is it bad if a utility process is expected to crash in some cases?[19:34:35] <Torne> not super familiar, but one of the reasons we have utility processes is in case certain things crash :)[19:34:44] <jamie_m> sounds good :)[19:34:48] <Torne> not sure what you have to actually do to handle it[19:35:31] *** wcfields has joined #chromium[19:36:05] <leiz> jamie_m: yes, they can certainly crash like any other process[19:36:14] <leiz> jamie_m: do you have a specific problem?[19:36:33] *** calvaris has quit IRC[19:36:38] <garykac> sheriffs: fyi. crrev.com/706703003/ will disable the telemetry tests for Mac 10.9[19:36:38] <trungl-bot> vmpstr, zea, huangs, raymes: ^^^[19:36:43] <jamie_m> leiz: i'm trying to gather some gpu stats.. and on some very strange configurations it can crash the process just to gather the stats[19:36:57] *** jrmuizel has joined #chromium[19:37:18] <jamie_m> i was debating on if i should gather in the gpu process, which could crash, or just use a utility process[19:37:27] *** tomzx is now known as tomzx`afk[19:37:52] <zea> garykac: sgtm, thanks[19:37:57] <leiz> jamie_m: How are you gathering stats? Again, all processes can crash / get killed.[19:38:11] <leiz> some even turn into zombies[19:38:50] <jamie_m> I want the maximum supported D3D version on Windows machines... the recommended way is to create a D3D device, which can actually crash some very odd configurations[19:39:09] <jamie_m> zombie processes seem bad, though it'd only be on a few machines[19:39:25] *** pkasting_ has joined #chromium[19:39:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v pkasting_[19:39:27] *** havingFun has joined #chromium[19:40:08] <leiz> jamie_m: You may have to do it in the gpu process. It's not obvious if utility processes can get that info. Processes are generally sandboxed.[19:41:36] *** ricardotk has quit IRC[19:42:31] <jamie_m> leiz, the code browser process currently uses base::LoadNativeLibrary for the device check, would that work in the utility process?[19:42:41] <jamie_m> code in the browser process**[19:44:31] <leiz> jamie_m: Probably not? I don't think utility processes can access the file system directly. Though the browser process can start a utility process and pass it files in a controlled manner.[19:44:47] <leiz> jamie_m: You can try and find out.[19:44:52] <jamie_m> ah, okay. sounds a bit more complex. thanks for the help[19:45:48] *** FreezingCold has joined #chromium[19:46:05] *** vadimsh has quit IRC[19:48:36] *** CustosLimen has joined #chromium[19:50:19] *** ncbray has quit IRC[19:51:40] *** glennflynn has quit IRC[19:53:48] *** glennflynn has joined #chromium[19:55:24] *** mmeade has joined #chromium[19:57:13] *** thakis_ has quit IRC[20:00:50] *** nya has joined #chromium[20:02:05] *** thakis_ has joined #chromium[20:03:22] *** cagedwisdom has joined #chromium[20:04:32] *** dnicoara has quit IRC[20:04:41] *** bdupont_away has quit IRC[20:08:01] *** litherum has joined #chromium[20:08:15] *** kkristof is now known as kkristof_away[20:09:25] *** rjkroege has joined #chromium[20:11:41] *** tomzx`afk is now known as tomzx[20:13:09] *** vadimsh has joined #chromium[20:17:08] *** hazardrix has quit IRC[20:19:17] *** dgncn has joined #chromium[20:23:44] *** echristo has joined #chromium[20:26:32] *** haavardm has joined #chromium[20:27:46] *** Gurj has quit IRC[20:29:03] *** katlogic_ is now known as katlogic[20:30:17] *** dnicoara has joined #chromium[20:30:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v dnicoara[20:36:21] *** ncbray has joined #chromium[20:36:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ncbray[20:37:31] *** jyasskin has joined #chromium[20:38:27] *** thakis_ has quit IRC[20:38:32] *** sorinj has joined #chromium[20:38:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sorinj[20:39:24] *** sorinj1 has quit IRC[20:39:57] *** marshallk has quit IRC[20:40:12] *** marshallk has joined #chromium[20:40:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v marshallk[20:43:30] <anddam> is src.chromium.org on svn?[20:43:51] <anddam> robwu_nl: looking for the autofill_table.cc in the version I got[20:48:36] <anddam> how can I figure what changelog is 40.0.2209.0 built from?[20:48:47] <anddam> s/changelog/revision[20:49:23] <ckocagil> anddam: omahaproxy.appspot.com[20:49:37] *** thakis_ has joined #chromium[20:49:41] <anddam> maybe I'm doing it wrong(tm)[20:50:03] <anddam> I have 40.0.2209.0 and it changed the autofill database, I was going to proceed like robwu_nl pointed out in http://superuser.com/questions/757941/how-to-downgrade-from-chrome-35-to-34-without-losing-data/757965#757965[20:50:22] <anddam> but looking the autofill_table.cc in trunk I don't see any further change than database version 57[20:50:37] <anddam> so why did the binary I fetched from Google update the db to 58?[20:51:56] *** ncbray has quit IRC[20:54:41] <anddam> ckocagil: that omahaproxy shows CVS info, the src.chromium.org site is a svn web interface and http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code suggests using git, what am I missing?[20:55:26] *** Lukimya has quit IRC[20:55:41] <ckocagil> anddam: cvs info? where?[20:55:55] *** sadrul has joined #chromium[20:55:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v sadrul[20:56:05] <Torne> anddam: omahaproxy shows git info for parts in git, and svn info for parts in svn. nothing to dow ith cvs[20:56:23] <Torne> anddam: src.chromium.org was the old source repository which is no longer used for the main chromium project but still hosts some of the dependencies[20:56:43] <anddam> my bad I misread CSV for CVS[20:56:46] <Torne> normal checkouts use git; the dependencies where the canonical copy is in svn, we have git mirrors for[20:56:53] <anddam> actually the commit hashes didn't make sense with CVS[20:57:20] <Torne> so to check out the code and update it you use git (through gclient)[20:57:47] <anddam> I'm looking for 6bad0d4fad0ee39e993d90eb2ab8050d650efa2b[20:58:11] <anddam> possibly from a web ui without cloning the repo[20:58:15] <ckocagil> http://crrev.com/6bad0d4fad0ee39e993d90eb2ab8050d650efa2b[20:58:30] <anddam> thanks[20:58:56] *** Betal has quit IRC[20:59:21] *** _0x1d3 has quit IRC[21:00:03] *** _0x1d3 has joined #chromium[21:00:30] <ckocagil> btw is there any way to see branches on gitiles?[21:00:49] <Torne> yes[21:00:55] <Torne> edit the url[21:01:30] <Torne> well[21:01:35] <Torne> i don't know how to list them[21:01:52] <Torne> but if you go to https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/refs/branch-heads/2209 or similar you get the branch[21:02:09] <Torne> they're all there, but git only lists things under refs/heads as being branches[21:02:16] <ckocagil> good enough, thanks[21:02:43] *** pkasting_ has quit IRC[21:03:43] <agable> ckocagil, Torne: chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+refs shows all branches and tags (not release branches, because they're outside refs/heads and refs/tags).[21:04:07] *** pkasting_ has joined #chromium[21:04:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v pkasting_[21:04:10] *** yoav_ is now known as yoav[21:04:34] <anddam> how can I check what is the database version compatibility of 38.0.2125.111 ?[21:04:38] <ckocagil> yeah, I needed release branches and Torne's method works there[21:04:41] <anddam> I'm not familiar with the codebase[21:05:03] <Torne> anddam: there is no one "database version compatibility"[21:05:10] <Torne> each thing that stores data has its own versioning scheme generally[21:05:18] <Torne> so you'd ahve to look at the code that implements the specific thing you care about[21:05:26] <anddam> the autofill[21:05:42] <anddam> I'd be better off pulling a backup of Web Data before I switched to Dev channel then[21:05:44] <anddam> thanks for the info[21:07:35] *** ebraminio has joined #chromium[21:07:58] *** Mso150_o has quit IRC[21:08:31] *** Mso150 has joined #chromium[21:10:15] *** Lukimya has joined #chromium[21:11:11] *** katlogic has quit IRC[21:11:47] *** katlogic_ has joined #chromium[21:11:49] *** rjkroege has quit IRC[21:13:14] *** Mso150_e has joined #chromium[21:13:54] *** Mso150 has quit IRC[21:20:37] *** dgncn has quit IRC[21:22:41] *** lliabraa has quit IRC[21:26:01] *** mdhopkins has joined #chromium[21:29:10] *** thakis_ has quit IRC[21:29:20] *** dpino has joined #chromium[21:30:01] *** sadrul has quit IRC[21:32:15] *** DLSteve has joined #chromium[21:33:28] *** Mso150_e has quit IRC[21:38:54] *** isherman-book has joined #chromium[21:42:14] *** dpranke has joined #chromium[21:42:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v dpranke[21:42:23] *** ncbray has joined #chromium[21:42:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ncbray[21:43:46] *** ellyjones has joined #chromium[21:43:51] *** rvargas__ has joined #chromium[21:43:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v rvargas__[21:46:36] *** thakis_ has joined #chromium[21:47:15] *** rvargas_ has quit IRC[21:48:17] *** Jackneill has quit IRC[21:49:09] *** lfg_ has quit IRC[21:50:22] *** jeremyspiegel has joined #chromium[21:51:15] *** girard has joined #chromium[21:51:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v girard[21:51:42] *** ncbray has quit IRC[21:51:55] *** Mso150 has joined #chromium[21:52:23] *** hichris123 has joined #chromium[21:53:07] <hichris123> If I'm building via the components build on Windows, can I just build only the component that was changed, or do I have to re-build the chrome target?[21:58:05] *** scheib_ is now known as scheib[21:58:43] *** emcfins_ has quit IRC[21:59:00] *** havingFun is now known as xrosnight[21:59:18] *** emcfins has joined #chromium[22:01:37] *** awoloszyn has joined #chromium[22:01:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v awoloszyn[22:04:06] *** emcfins has quit IRC[22:06:15] *** rjkroege has joined #chromium[22:06:20] *** Mso150 has quit IRC[22:06:45] *** Mso150 has joined #chromium[22:06:58] *** maruel has quit IRC[22:07:30] *** emcfins has joined #chromium[22:09:52] <jampekka> Is there any way to "persist" a Blob URL store entry created from a local file? Eg. asking permission from the user to open again the file that was previously opened[22:10:58] <jampekka> I'm doing a video tagging application that works with local files and it would be nice so that users could eg. bookmark "videos" and use browser history to navigate between opened videos[22:11:41] *** jeremyspiegel has quit IRC[22:12:01] <jampekka> Currently the application just has to instruct the user to hunt again the same file to continue tagging a video[22:14:30] *** maruel has joined #chromium[22:14:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v maruel[22:14:37] <jampekka> Well, at least the FileAPI spec is quite clear on this: "user agents must remove all Blob URLs from the Blob URL Store within that document."[22:15:02] *** ostap has joined #chromium[22:20:20] *** rene0 has joined #chromium[22:22:00] *** Sana has joined #chromium[22:22:18] *** Sana has left #chromium[22:23:14] <robwu_nl> Anyone around from Security UI/UX?[22:25:04] *** DLSteve has quit IRC[22:26:54] *** watk has quit IRC[22:27:07] *** watk has joined #chromium[22:27:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v watk[22:28:14] *** OnkelTem has quit IRC[22:29:38] *** OnkelTem has joined #chromium[22:29:52] <leiz> robwu_nl: you might want to try email?[22:30:53] <robwu_nl> leiz: There is already some discussion going on on the bug report, but I'd like to have a quick chat with a security UI engineer to gather some feedback.[22:32:12] *** atanasb has quit IRC[22:32:22] *** awong has quit IRC[22:33:32] *** shreeramk_ has quit IRC[22:37:16] *** atanasb has joined #chromium[22:37:25] <leiz> robwu_nl: ping the relevant person on gchat/hangouts?[22:38:31] <robwu_nl> leiz: I'm not at Hangouts, and I don't know their G+ name (I'm not a Googler, by the way)[22:39:34] *** amstan has joined #chromium[22:39:38] *** amstan has left #chromium[22:39:59] <leiz> robwu_nl: I know, but you can add people by their email addresses[22:40:23] <robwu_nl> leiz: Thanks for the tip.[22:40:59] <leiz> robwu_nl: it's been 15 minutes, so they're clearly not here right now. 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I can TBR it if you want to get rid of the failures now or I can wait.[23:57:50] <trungl-bot> vmpstr, zea, huangs, raymes: ^^^[23:58:28] *** Asandari has quit IRC[23:58:34] <vmpstr> phajdan doesn't seem to be there, i pinged him about that review[23:59:15] <huangs> Would it be better to comment out the lines instead?[23:59:26] <garykac> Can't comment out JSON[23:59:29] <zea> I'm fine with TBR, those tests are hosed until this is fixed[23:59:53] <vmpstr> i would vote for tbr as well