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[00:44:51] <alancutter> Is there an owner for Chromium's fork of Rietveld?
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[00:49:51] <maruel> alancutter: jrobbins
[00:50:29] <alancutter> maruel: Thanks.
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[01:48:57] <thakis_> mdempsky: are you around? i’d like to talk about =default if you have a minute
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[02:15:50] <mdempsky> thakis_: I'm here.
[02:16:26] <thakis_> mdempsky: mostly out of curiosity, when do you want to explicitly say that you want a defautl copy constructor? to make it private?
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[02:17:56] <mdempsky> thakis_: Personally, I write a lot of classes with value semantics, but with several member variables, and it's those cases where I'd really like =default.
[02:19:05] <thakis_> mdempsky: but you get a copy constructor for free by default, no?
[02:19:05] <mdempsky> I've written a few classes where I think copying/assigning makes sense, but I didn't have an immediate use for it, and so I just used DISALLOW_ASSIGN(foo) or whatever instead.
[02:19:17] <mdempsky> thakis_: But I think the style guide says you need to explicitly implement it if you want that?
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[02:20:58] <thakis_> mdempsky: whoa, you’re right ( http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/cppguide.html#Copyable_Movable_Types ). i didn’t know that
[02:21:09] <mdempsky> thakis_: Yeah. :(
[02:21:34] <thakis_> it goes on with “f your type is copyable and a move operation is more efficient than a copy, define both move operations (constructor and assignment)”
[02:21:37] <thakis_> which we can’t do
[02:21:50] <mdempsky> Yeah.
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[02:24:05] <thakis_> a
[02:24:30] <mdempsky> I'd settle for ALLOW_COPY_AND_ASSIGN(Foo) that emit =default implementations when that will work, and emits nothing (i.e., implicits) when the compiler doesn't support it.
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[02:47:00] <thakis_> mdempsky: what’s the advantage of that over having a macro like this that always expands to nothing? both has the same effect, no?
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[02:51:55] <mdempsky> thakis_: That's fine with me too if allowed by the style arbiters.
[02:52:58] <mdempsky> But the advantage of having ALLOW_COPY_AND_ASSIGN(Foo) sometimes expand to Foo(const Foo&) = default is that at least with those compilers you could check for issues where you did something conflicting; e.g., used DISALLOW_COPY_AND_ASSIGN().
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[04:01:23] <mgiuca> Anybody know what's up with linux_chromium_chromeos_rel?
[04:01:26] <mgiuca> http://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.linux/builders/linux_chromium_chromeos_rel
[04:01:52] <mgiuca> This bot is failing on PPAPI tests inconsistently.
[04:02:01] <mgiuca> But it's not just on my try jobs...
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[04:22:12] <leiz> mgiuca: it has some green builds
[04:22:25] <mgiuca> leiz: Yeah, that's what I meant by inconsistently.
[04:22:42] <mgiuca> But it's got lots of failures, by lots of different people, on PPAPI stuff.
[04:23:07] <mgiuca> My patch literally just adds new Windows-only files, and a new Windows-only target to .gyp. So there is no way I can be causing PPAPI failures on a ChromeOS bot.
[04:24:00] <leiz> mgiuca: I saw. I'd file a bug...
[04:24:09] <mgiuca> OK.
[04:24:39] <leiz> as they say, "keep the faith and try again"
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[04:25:07] <leiz> I strongly suspect flake since runs 8698 and 8698 are at the same revision and one failed
[04:25:12] <leiz> 8697
[04:30:10] <mgiuca> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=430344
[04:30:39] <mgiuca> My CL passed and went through. Yeah it's definitely flaky.
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[09:21:26] <machenbach> sheriffs: heads up: I landed a change to archive_build.py used in the archive step of various chromium bots.
[09:21:26] <trungl-bot> akuegel, iyengar, tzik, garykac: ^^^
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[09:22:36] <tzik> ok, go ahead.
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[10:01:50] <tzik> cros test failure seems due to 4df3c4 (r302757)
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[10:02:24] <tzik> mithro: ^^^
[10:03:00] <mithro> tzik: the one that has already been reverted?
[10:03:28] <tzik> Ah, I didn't notice.
[10:03:53] <tzik> mithro: Thanks for quick care.
[10:05:01] <mithro> tzik: I would like to know why it was able to land?
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[10:06:49] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "gclient runhooks" on http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.memory/builders/Mac%20ASan%20Tests%20%281%29/builds/5748 "Mac ASan Tests (1)" from 0c4422d9a0e89da3ca708f7bfdbab3603a4a7279: amistry at chromium dot org,ccameron@chromium.org (:ccameron),chromeos-commit-bot at chromium dot org,mgiuca@chromium.org)
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[10:09:18] <tzik> The CL once passed the test in CQ. That seems flaky.
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[10:15:52] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Automatic: Lycka till!)
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[11:31:01] <mpa> does anyone have an idea at which point 2d canvas clearRect() uses a different codepath for fullsize canvas clearing and partly clearing?
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[12:04:33] <bartfab> sheriffs: http://build.chromium.org/p/tryserver.chromium.linux/builders/linux_chromium_chromeos_rel is flaky, refusing to land good CLs
[12:04:33] <trungl-bot> akuegel, iyengar, tzik, garykac: ^^^
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[12:05:11] <bartfab> it flakes in PPAPINaClPNaClTests
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[12:16:10] <tnagel> Sheriff(s): There seems to be an issue with CQ/bot/tests. I'm getting CQ failures for a totally harmless comment-only CL: https://codereview.chromium.org/689673002/
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[12:39:41] <tzik> http://crbug.com/430344 seems to cause both of them
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[12:40:18] <s_n_> hi
[12:40:41] <s_n_> is it the right # to ask question re command line parameters for chrome/chromium browser?
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[12:47:49] <s_n_> <i>nope?</i>
[12:50:43] <s_n_> http://fo">
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[13:01:15] <bartfab> tzik: thanks. i escalated this to sergeyberezin. it is making the CQ unreliable
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[14:24:01] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium/builders/Mac/builds/30645 "Mac" from cf53b106215484f67beb48c333e797518e9cbe58: dgozman at chromium dot org,hlundin@chromium.org,johnme@chromium.org,reveman@chromium.org,simonb@chromium.org,vabr@chromium.org)
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[14:47:11] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by akuegel at chromium dot org: Tree is open (tried a clobber)
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[14:59:06] <phajdan-jr> sheriffs: I have a somewhat risky patch (reland) https://codereview.chromium.org/707453002/ ; trybots are green, I'd like to land; this is mostly a heads up, but please let me know if for some reason this is not the best time to land
[14:59:07] <trungl-bot> akuegel, iyengar, tzik, garykac: ^^^
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[15:16:24] <tzik> mgiuca: yt?
[15:17:54] <phajdan-jr> tzik: can I land https://codereview.chromium.org/707453002/ (it's a reland of earlier CL)
[15:19:08] <tzik> Ah, yes. go ahead.
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[16:47:39] <Anupkumar> Hi. My name us Anup and I want to help with the the android development team
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[16:53:54] <ckocagil> Anupkumar: chrome for android, or android itself? :)
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[18:11:05] <jamescook> Chrome on Chrome OS gardener reporting for duty
[18:11:10] <jamescook> sheriffs, ^^^
[18:11:10] <trungl-bot> akuegel, iyengar, tzik, garykac: ^^^
[18:12:51] <jamescook> FYI there are git/networking issues with chromium.googlesource.com http://b2/18249316
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[18:24:28] <jamescook> FYI Chrome for Chrome OS successfully uprev'd this morning to 40.0.2211
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[18:49:20] <jamescook> Does anyone know exactly what time of day we make the daily branch of Chrome for canaries? 6 AM Pacific?
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[18:52:35] <ckocagil> similarly I want to know the next beta branch cut
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[18:55:24] <jamescook> branch for M40 is scheduled for this weekend
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[18:57:44] <ckocagil> thanks
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[19:22:04] <maruel> jamescook: ask TPMs
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[21:13:26] <robster-> dcheng_, you left a message on my CL about zlib
[21:13:33] <robster-> dcheng_, i'm taking a look now
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[21:16:53] <robster-> dcheng_, if you look at the zlib.gyp entry we have it turned off on mac due to this bug:http://crbug.com/420616
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[21:25:17] <eseidel> dpranke: do I manually roll buildtools in mojo?
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[21:25:24] <eseidel> dpranke: or does some automated process do so?
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[21:34:09] <dpranke> eseidel: probably need to manually roll it
[21:34:25] <dpranke> eseidel: unless jamesr has set up something
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[21:34:47] <thakis_> sheriffs: what’s up with http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.mac/builders/Mac10.9%20Tests%20(dbg) ?
[21:34:47] <trungl-bot> akuegel, iyengar, tzik, garykac: ^^^
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[21:37:35] <garykac> thakis_: The 10.9 bots are new ones that rsesek said were spun up yesterday.
[21:37:42] <thakis_> kk
[21:38:52] <garykac> telemetry problems are lack of sudo, which has been a recurring problem on Mac lately. phajdan reverted a recent telemetry change, so I'm not sure why they popped up again.
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[21:50:35] <thakis_> danakj: soooo due to your make-scoped_ptr-moveable patch, vector<scoped_ptr<>> works on win and linux (which have vectors with move support) but not on android and mac. can you think of some way to make vector<scoped_ptr> not work (ideally at compile time) everywhere?
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[21:50:51] <danakj> hrm.
[21:51:02] <thakis_> (i can’t.)
[21:52:11] <danakj> insert specializations into std::vector for scoped_ptrs
[21:52:18] <danakj> using reflection? :D
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[21:53:43] <danakj> uncomfortably excited about vector<scoped_ptr> tho :x
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[21:55:15] <danakj> thakis_: presubmit warning/clang plugin is all i can think of
[21:55:34] <thakis_> i guess i’ll manually remove it from the 3 files that use it
[21:55:37] <thakis_> :-/
[21:56:31] <danakj> if it's in files that are only used on those platforms is it ok?
[21:56:45] <danakj> like, bots will catch bad uses
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[21:59:01] <dcheng_> thakis_: Inject a header into every compilation unit that #includes vector and then adds specializations for vector<scoped_ptr<>> to fail compile? =)
[21:59:13] <thakis_> hmmm…no
[21:59:14] <thakis_> :-)
[21:59:27] <dcheng_> sheriffs: Any idae what's causing the content_browsertests WebRTC failures on ANdroid?
[21:59:28] <trungl-bot> akuegel, iyengar, tzik, garykac: ^^^
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[22:01:30] <robster-> dcheng_, I commented on that CL, tldr: embedded base64 png in the reference data will need rebaselining for the new zlib.
[22:03:08] <dcheng_> robster-: Hm? Is this the layout test failure?
[22:03:26] <dcheng_> robster-: I dont' think that's a good idea, since that adds implicit assumptions on what the builder hardware is
[22:03:40] <dcheng_> robster-: I disabled the layout test for now
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[22:05:22] <robster-> dcheng_, okay, maybe it could an image level comparison instead of the text comparison on the base64 encoded string
[22:05:46] <thakis_> danakj: c++11 library features are forbidden everywhere for now
[22:06:11] <dcheng_> robster-: Yeah that's probably the right thing to do, but someone will have to adapt the test.
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[22:06:34] <danakj> thakis_: ya, but std::vector is allowed, and making scoped_ptr movable was allowed
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[22:06:54] <thakis_> but std::vector’s move support is a c++11 library feature
[22:07:02] <danakj> hrm, i spose :)
[22:07:14] <thakis_> people will copy code they see and then get angry and confused if it doesn’t work in common code
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[22:07:46] <danakj> that's probably true, should we add a presubmit warning then?
[22:07:50] <danakj> or error
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[22:13:22] <thakis_> i can’t spell “vector” today. it always comes out as “vectory”
[22:13:27] <thakis_> what is wrong with me
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[22:15:27] <robster-> dcheng_, ah I now see you opened a bug (and talked to agl@), apologies for the noise, i'll investigate that smarter diff tomorrow
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[22:20:34] <dcheng_> robster-: No worries.
[22:20:45] <dcheng_> robster-: Dont worry too much about it, I think the bug is already assigned off to someone
[22:21:05] <robster-> dcheng_, okay.
[22:21:16] <rsesek> garykac: I don't have an answer to the telemtry tests, but content_browsertests will be green soon as will interactive_ui_tests on Mac 10.9
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[22:23:55] <garykac> rsesek: Thanks for the update. I'm disabling CaptureScreenshot on Mac now.
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[22:35:41] <jamesr_> anyone know the full set of places clang-format looks for configuration info? i.e. in addition to clang_format?
[22:35:59] <jamesr_> err .clang_format ? is that it?
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[22:43:23] <jamesr_> thakis: do you know?
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[22:49:25] <Mathuin> Is this a good channel to ask questions about ChromeOS and Chromebooks?
[22:52:47] <danakj> thakis: you're feeling vectorious?
[22:53:03] <danakj> Mathuin: no see topic
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[22:55:59] <raymes> Anyone know what's going on with the telemetry_unittests on mac?
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[22:58:56] <Mathuin> danakj: thanks!
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[23:26:08] <dcheng_> jamesr_: It looks for .clang-format in the current directory and parent directories.
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[23:26:19] <dcheng_> jamesr_: I assume that more local .clang-formats override more distant ones, but not sure.
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[23:49:05] <garykac> Anyone know the proper way to disable python unittests? The standard #ifdef _DISABLED approach obviously doesn't work. We want to disable the telemetry unittests on Mac until they're working on 10.9 - they've been broken for nearly 2 days now.
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[23:51:17] <maruel> garykac: testing/buildbot/*.json ?
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