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[00:02:26] <leiz> Wallydz: ask sbc@ :)
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[00:03:42] <Wallydz> yep will do
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[00:08:56] <mdempsky> ugh, checklicense
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[00:12:41] <hinoka> I'm going to respawn 138 swarm slaves. They'll go offline for about 2-5 minutes, then come back online. The tasks running on the slave will be pre-emptd
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[00:30:06] <leiz> Wallydz: precise almost works, but clang still gets internal errors here, and gcc 4.6 can't handle the c++11-isms.
[00:30:44] <leiz> Wallydz: I'm done trying for now. I suspect Ubuntu's cross-gcc is broken.
[00:30:50] <leiz> For Ubuntu 14.04.
[00:31:13] <Wallydz> hmmm ok i will try again tommorow with precise thank you again
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[01:17:12] <mascondante> I did ask first in #chromium-support but upon further thought this is more a question to pose directly to the developers. Is the Pepper Flash plugin open source (I can't seem to find it)? If it has proprietary Adobe code in it or otherwise closed source might I ask that the ARMv6 architecture be considered for a future release? I mainly speak of the Raspberry Pi. A lot of Makers, tinkers, beginner developers and students either in less fortunat
[01:17:12] <mascondante> e areas needing a cheap solution for computers or to learn the engineering/development potential of the SoC could benefit from this. I don't want to trash up the development channel so if no one wants to address this at this time I will not bother anyone anymore today. Thank you for your time and consideration.
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[01:30:44] <qengho> mascondante: Pepper Flash is totally-closed, Adobe-owned code. It's effectively the same as the old netscape-api plugin, but talking though a different interface.
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[01:34:46] <mascondante> qengho: Gotcha. I was hoping it was something Google worked on liken unto Wine. Figuring out how Flash worked and producing a totally internally made port. I appreciate the info. That's kind of bad news. From what I've seen Adobe doesn't crank out a new flash unless there's big names, dollar signs, commas and zeros attached.
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[01:35:39] <qengho> mascondante: The only ARM builds Adobe produces are because of known-hardware Chromebook builds, and that may be too high ARM version or use of hardware floating-point, for you.
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[01:36:19] <hdon> hi all :) how can i see text that is obscured by text-overflow: ellipses? i hoped it would automatically be the default behavior for mouse-hover tooltip thing, but i guess it isn't
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[01:37:09] <leiz> hdon: this is not the right channel, see /topic
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[01:38:25] <mascondante> qengho: Sorry to spout off a cynical unfounded view. When Adobe dropped Android I became very annoyed with them.
[01:39:00] <mascondante> Again, thank you. What you spoke of is slightly above my 'pay-grade' but I gather the point.
[01:39:09] <leiz> mascondante: It's something you have to ask Adobe about. Whenever someone asks if a given linux distro can package and distribute chromium + flash, that's the answer too.
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[01:43:13] <mascondante> leiz: I do recall earlier distros of Linux back in the day explaining they weren't authorized to package Flash, I fully understand now. Thanks for breaking it down.
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[01:57:01] <mascondante> I'm just one guy but I don't know if you guys get the credit you deserve so before I go thank you for all you do with the Chromium project. It's top notch stuff. Should I ever be able to slow my brain down enough to focus on one thing long enough to consider myself a proficient developer I hope this is where I end up. Take care all and good night.
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[03:24:26] <owen1> i am trying to restart chromuium from the console: xdotool search "chromium-browser" windowactivate => XGetWindowProperty[_NET_WM_DESKTOP] failed (code=1) any idea why am i getting this error?
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[03:29:52] <leiz> owen1: nope, but see /topic
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[04:39:10] <shpx> what the keyboard shortcut to auto complete suggestion but not execute search in omnibox (besides right arrow key)
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[04:39:15] <shpx> what is*
[04:41:15] <leiz> shpx: see /topic
[04:41:43] <shpx> bah, sorry
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[04:58:14] <rainabba> About to grab my hotel for Chrome Dev Summit 2014. Any non-smokers looking to split one for the 18th, 19th, and 20th (or 19th and 20th)? Speak up fast if you might be interested (or else I'm going for 1-King instead fo 1-Queen) :)
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[05:26:33] <ckocagil> 'morning #chromium
[05:26:33] <trungl-bot> Good morning, ckocagil!
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[06:25:33] <mithro> in chromium what is the correct way to convert from a base::string16 to a std::string object?UTF16ToUTF8 seems to be right choice but I'm unsure if base::string16 is always considered UTF16?
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[06:27:01] <ckocagil> mithro: string types don't guarantee encoding, especially for std::string. however base::string16 is, from what I've seen, mostly UTF16
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[06:28:07] <mithro> ckocagil: well, I know this std::string result needs to be UTF8 (as it's being passed to X11 call which requires UTF8)
[06:29:07] <ckocagil> actually I don't think I've seen a base::string16 that wasn't UTF-16 or at least UCS-2
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[06:48:12] <rouslan> mithro, ckocagil: i've always used UTF8ToUTF16 and UTF16ToUTF8 for UI strings. If the strings is hard-coded and it's just ASCII, you can use ASCIIToUTF16 as well.
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[06:54:27] <mithro> rouslan: guess I'll use it and see what the reviewers say
[06:54:42] <rouslan> cool
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[10:04:29] <hugoh> is there any special flag to enable when trying <video> in the webviewshell? i do 'adb_run_android_webview_shell http://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_video.asp', and the no picture is shown when i click play...
[10:08:21] <hugoh> nexus 5, android 4.4.4
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[10:55:25] <srenatus> Hi there. I'm looking for some information (sources) on minijail. All I found was a pointer that it was merged into src/platform2/minijail now, but I have not had any look finding that....
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[11:03:22] <elecro> srenatus: isn't minijail a chrome-os related thing? if so, you could try asking it on #chromium-os
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[11:05:10] <srenatus> elecro: noticed by mistake too but refrained from cross-posting... but hey, you're right.
[11:06:16] <elecro> srenatus: ah ok, no problem, maybe someone does know the answer
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[11:07:00] <srenatus> elecro: just asked there, too. ;)
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[12:00:59] <ihre> Hi guys, when starting chromium from the terminal, can I supply credentials to login at the URL I start it with?
[12:01:23] <ihre> like chromium http://nagios.example.com -user foo -pass bar
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[12:25:22] <vompatti> does chromium have support for webrtc? I tried my googlefu but all I found was talk about chrome
[12:26:26] <vompatti> ah, maybe I should try the support channel, my bad
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[12:28:59] <avayvod> Hey, anyone up who can approve a change under modules/ in Blink?
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[13:15:33] <gabriel_schulhof> Hi! I'm trying to fetch the sources for Chromium via fetch --nohooks blink ... can I somehow tell it to retry an infinite number of times? My network connection is flaky, and whenever I intentionally disconnect/reconnect it, the fetch will fail and I need to start all over.
[13:17:20] <Torne> gabriel_schulhof: if you run fetch with --dry-run it will print the underlying commands it's actually running
[13:17:52] <Torne> it's fine to rerun the gclient sync step until the sync succeeds
[13:18:12] <Torne> though, the issue you may have is that git clone operations aren't resumable so if your network can't stay up long enough to clone a whole project you will never succeed
[13:18:20] <Torne> if you don't fetch history it will be much faster
[13:18:54] <gabriel_schulhof> Torne: Right. I guess I was assuming that the checkout of any one project will succeed.
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[13:19:09] <Torne> we have a couple of projects that are, individually, extremely large
[13:19:19] <gabriel_schulhof> Torne: Also, do you have any idea approximately how much diskspace is needed for the checkout step?
[13:19:19] <Torne> blink being one of the main ones :)
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[13:19:38] <Torne> ~20GB?
[13:19:46] <gabriel_schulhof> OK. Thanks. I'll try these things.
[13:20:15] <Torne> if you run the steps individually instead of through fetch, make sure you complete all of them, in order
[13:20:27] <Torne> i.e. once you manage to get the gclient sync to succeed, you need to run the other steps fetch runs after that
[13:20:34] <Torne> otherwise you may encounter weird issues later
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[13:21:32] <gabriel_schulhof> Yeah, absolutely. I'll trust the --dry-run output implicitly. I'll treat the commands as black boxes, relying on their exit values for determining whether they've usucceeded or not.
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[13:45:33] <mlerman1> good morning, chromium!
[13:45:33] <trungl-bot> Good morning, mlerman1!
[13:45:44] <mlerman1> Eastern Time sheriff, reporting in :)
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[13:53:34] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "compile" on http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.mac/builders/Mac%20Builder/builds/12946 "Mac Builder" from a2da02bd99d78de549b617510551ec5e1f7073d9: serya at chromium dot org)
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[13:57:36] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by mlerman at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Reverting CL 677843006 by SeRya)
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[14:00:13] <mlerman1> Mac builder on the waterfall looks fine… I'm somewhat confused (first time Sheriff here!)
[14:02:44] <mlerman1> Trying a revert, will ask questions later :)
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[14:06:41] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mlerman at chromium dot org: Tree is open (Reverted 677843006)
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[16:59:16] <deepblue> how to install flash player for chromium on Debian wheezy?
[17:00:18] <jbroman> deepblue: perhaps a better question for a Debian channel (this channel is for Chromium dev), but...there seems to be a pepperflashplugin-nonfree package in wheezy-backports
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[17:38:09] <mpcomplete> lots of failures
[17:39:26] <bdupont> Hi, I try to build the last stable (38.0.2125.111) version on Linux with ozone, without webrtc (because there are dependencies like Xext, X11 which aren't supported on our platform) but there is a link issue: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=429202 I don't know how to fix that... Any ideas?
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[17:40:50] <rakuco> bdupont: these have been fixed in more recent chromium milestones (basically in more recent webrtc revisions), you'll need to point to those yourself in m38
[17:41:22] <rakuco> bdupont: see https://code.google.com/p/webrtc/issues/detail?id=3625
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[17:42:39] <bdupont> rakuco: good news, I've searched with xext and enable_webrtc key words... Thank you.
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[17:43:10] <deego> A certain website has its own right click menu functionality, but I only see the debian defaults in chromium. :|
[17:43:22] <deego> How do I see the website's right click context menu?
[17:43:51] <deego> I'm running a gnash (flash) app. from the website..
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[17:54:44] <pgervais> Today's MTV trooper checking in.
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[17:56:08] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by mpcomplete at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (tests crashing)
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[18:07:04] <sky_> troopers: could one of you restart master.client.mojo? I made a change so it needs a restart.
[18:07:05] <trungl-bot> pgervais: ^^^
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[18:10:34] <pgervais> sky_: will do. Who should I notify first?
[18:10:47] <sky_> What do you mean notify?
[18:11:03] <pgervais> ask for sign-off (beside you)
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[18:11:08] <sky_> jamesr
[18:11:22] <pgervais> k, thx
[18:11:27] <sky_> thank you!
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[18:15:16] <pgervais> Master restarting...
[18:15:58] <pgervais> Master restarted. You added a builder, correct?
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[18:19:38] <jamesr_> is there an easy scriptable way to map a committish to a commit position?
[18:20:01] <jamesr_> pgervais: yeah - i see the new builder now
[18:20:06] <jamesr_> 1 pending
[18:21:13] <jamesr_> does crrev.com have a json interface?
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[18:23:01] <pgervais> jamesr_: better, it uses cloud endpoints.
[18:23:42] <kapy> hello, i'm a new comer to the chromium community
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[18:24:24] <rouslan> welcome, kapy!
[18:24:29] <pgervais> jamesr_: try http://cr-rev.appspot.com/_ah/api/explorer
[18:25:21] <jamesr_> pgervais: fancy!
[18:25:30] <kapy> thanks, wow there are so many people on this irc channel
[18:25:52] <jamesr_> question
[18:26:06] <kapy> are there any easy mentored bugs for chromium that i can start with ?
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[18:26:28] <jamesr_> pgervais: why does crrev.numbering.get want to know the repo? git commits are globally unique
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[18:29:46] <bdupont> Do you know if someone is working on https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=417661?
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[18:30:10] <pgervais> jamesr_ No idea. I suppose it's to avoid scanning all repos.
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[18:31:27] <jamesr_> pgervais: this is fancypants! thanks
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[18:33:17] <pgervais> jamesr_: you'll have to thank stip@ for that.
[18:33:27] <ckocagil> kapy: not mentored https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=Hotlist%3DGoodFirstBug
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[18:34:10] <rouslan> kapy: see http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved
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[18:35:00] <kapy> thanks, ckocagil +rouslan
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[18:36:02] <jamesr_> stip: thanks stip!
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[18:43:47] <kapy> hey, most of those good easy bugs are old
[18:44:05] <kapy> they are for older versions of chrome
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[18:46:12] <Torne> the hotlist is not especially well maintained, unfortunately
[18:46:23] <Torne> the bugs being old doesn't mean they don't still exist, though
[18:48:46] <kapy> +Torne - do those bugs still exist in the latest version of chrome ?
[18:49:14] <Torne> no idea. you would hae to check for each bug if it's still reproducible.
[18:49:30] <Torne> it's possible it's been fixed by accident, or has been fixed under a different bug and the bugs were not deduped
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[18:51:32] <kapy> so if i need to fix that bug do i have to download that particular version of chrome or the latest version ?
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[18:53:12] <kapy> for testing that bug
[18:53:14] <Torne> development work always happens on the latest version of the code
[18:53:28] <Torne> but sometimes it's useful to test stuff on the current stable or beta version of chrome as well (whcih will be somewhat older)
[18:53:43] <Torne> anything older than the current stable version is dead and we don't care about it any more
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[19:10:00] <ckocagil> what's the incantation to fetch binaries by their .sha1 files?
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[19:16:51] <maruel> sheriffs: what's up with the tree?
[19:16:51] <trungl-bot> kaznacheev, mpcomplete, pavely, mlerman: ^^^
[19:17:04] <mpcomplete> maruel: it's hosed
[19:17:26] <mpcomplete> there's a ton of crashes in tests on windows. i reverted a skia roll and we're waiting to see if that was it
[19:17:33] <mpcomplete> but it's taking forever to rebuild
[19:17:39] <maruel> ok, thanks
[19:22:26] <thakis_> ckocagil: download_from_google_storage, see all the entries at the bottom of DEPS
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[19:25:53] <ckocagil> thakis_: worked, thanks
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[19:44:05] <vadimsh> sheriffs: I'm about to land a recipe change for "Linux Builder" (https://codereview.chromium.org/691213002). It should not affect anything, but just letting you know in case you see some errors during or after the compilation. I'll be watching it too.
[19:44:05] <trungl-bot> kaznacheev, mpcomplete, pavely, mlerman: ^^^
[19:44:44] <mpcomplete> vadimsh: can it wait until the tree is opened?
[19:44:59] <vadimsh> mpcomplete: okay
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[19:45:27] <mpcomplete> vadimsh: if you think it's safe, go ahead. the tree is closed while waiting on an XP Tests failure
[19:45:59] <vadimsh> mpcomplete: I'll wait... I need the builder to start building anyway to verify everything works.
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[19:50:26] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mpcomplete at chromium dot org: Tree is open (XP Tests looks happy after skia revert)
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[20:11:37] <qwebirc92123> Hi chrome users
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[20:11:45] <maruel> qwebirc92123: see topic
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[20:13:01] <qwebirc92123> What is the topic of this chan ?
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[20:15:41] <qwebirc92123> Please, where is located in source this graphics buttons http://i.imgur.com/mv9cOJn.png
[20:16:39] <scottmg> qwebirc92123: that looks like linux? it's pulled from gtk system resources in the default theme i think
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[20:17:15] <qwebirc92123> scottmg: yes is linux, but even on windows it look same
[20:17:45] <scottmg> not for me. but if it does with a custom theme, then it'll be a resource in the theme
[20:17:52] <scottmg> (rather than the source code)
[20:18:11] <qwebirc92123> do you know where is physicaly located on git source or in the linux installation ?
[20:18:25] <scottmg> nope, sorry
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[20:18:50] <scottmg> (it's created from a system font on windows)
[20:18:58] <qwebirc92123> I suspect in the *.pak
[20:19:29] <qwebirc92123> do you know how to unpack it easily ?
[20:21:50] <maruel> scottmg: already handled on #chromium-support
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[20:51:28] <trungl-bot> Tree closed by buildbot at chromium dot org: Tree is closed (Automatic: "gclient runhooks" on http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.mac/builders/Mac%2010.6%20Tests%20%28dbg%29%281%29/builds/54527 "Mac 10.6 Tests (dbg)(1)" from cbdaf76256d60e43e0859ad6e3d893e879610df2: erikchen at chromium dot org,fatalerr@yandex-team.ru,gunsch@chromium.org,hshi@chromium.org,rdsmith@chromium.org)
[20:51:57] <leiz> infra flake?
[20:52:02] <mpcomplete> looks that way
[20:52:10] <leiz> hopefully a flake and not a more persistent failure
[20:52:31] <mpcomplete> reopening
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[20:53:43] <trungl-bot> Tree opened by mpcomplete at chromium dot org: Tree is open ("gclient runhooks" failure assumed flaky)
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[20:54:32] <mpcomplete> troopers: there are 2 bots failing a download_from_google_storage command
[20:54:32] <trungl-bot> pgervais: ^^^
[20:54:41] <mpcomplete> see http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.mac/builders/Mac%2010.6%20Tests%20%28dbg%29%281%29/builds/54527/steps/gclient%20runhooks/logs/stdio
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[20:59:59] <dschooh> Hello there.
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[21:01:12] <dschooh> Could someone explain to me, how Chromium on Linux determines what font to use for the UI?
[21:01:16] <pgervais> mpcomplete: will have a look
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[21:04:31] <pgervais> mpcomplete: what is the second bot?
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[21:04:54] <mpcomplete> pgervais: http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.webkit/builders/Android%20GN/builds/9823
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[21:06:29] <pgervais> The second failure what apparently transient. #9824 seems to work
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[21:06:51] <pgervais> And same thing on the first builder.
[21:07:12] <pgervais> Could be a short failure on Cloud Storage side.
[21:08:19] <thakis> troopers: do you have a second?
[21:08:20] <trungl-bot> pgervais: ^^^
[21:08:48] <thakis> pgervais: the builders on http://build.chromium.org/p/chromium.fyi/console?category=win%20clang are red ‘cause someone renamed a directory from “Ocaml” to “OCaml” which confuses windows
[21:09:38] <thakis> …looks like 2 of the bots suddenly started working, huh
[21:10:46] <thakis> pgervais: nvm, http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-commits/Week-of-Mon-20141027/242354.html fixed things i think
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[21:15:03] <pgervais> thakis: glad I could help :-)
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[21:15:59] <thakis> :-)
[21:16:13] <pgervais> thakis: but feel free to ping me
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[21:33:53] <thakis> pgervais: do you have powers to grant storage bucket write permissions? if so, can you give me write permissions for the chromium-clang-format bucket, please?
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[21:40:15] <pgervais> thakis: I don't, but hinoka@ has.
[21:40:26] <thakis> he’s ignoring my pleas :-(
[21:40:45] <pgervais> Out of curiosity: why do you need to change the bucket content?
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[21:54:50] <thakis> pgervais: to push new clang-format binaries
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[21:55:01] <thakis> (https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=428816)
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[22:02:55] <cafed00d> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/oSC6S3Luqh0
[22:03:11] <cafed00d> can someone take a loo at this and give me their usggestions/commnets?
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[22:49:54] <jamesr_> is there a python formatter that produces chromium-ish python?
[22:49:59] <jamesr_> i.e. pep8 with our line length limits?
[22:50:07] <jamesr_> dpranke: maybe you know of one? ^^
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[23:04:57] <dpranke> jamesr_: format-webkitpy —chromium
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[23:06:38] <jamesr_> ok. to format my mojo python files, i'll run format-webkitpy from the blink repo with the --chromium flag
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[23:06:51] <dpranke> si
[23:06:54] <jamesr_> #collaboration ?
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[23:07:30] <klemen> good evening, chromium
[23:07:30] <trungl-bot> Good evening, klemen.
[23:08:36] <dpranke> jamesr_: format-webkit is a very thin wrapper around an open-source thing called 'autopep8', so you could look into that if you didn't want all the dependencies
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[23:09:05] <jamesr_> well first i'll have to find it...
[23:09:15] <jamesr_> third_party/WebKit/Tools/Scripts/format-webkitpy ?
[23:09:33] <dpranke> y
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[23:24:08] <thakis_> pgervais: can you restart the fyi master, please?
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[23:25:13] <pgervais> sure. Give me a minute
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[23:26:49] <pgervais> Any objection from another sheriff?
[23:27:01] <pgervais> Pinging sheriffs
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[23:27:24] <pgervais> Isn't that supposed to be a keyword for trungl-bot?
[23:27:45] <pgervais> sheriffs: I need your sign-off
[23:27:46] <trungl-bot> kaznacheev, mpcomplete, pavely, mlerman: ^^^
[23:28:02] <pgervais> to restart chromium.fyi
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[23:29:44] <thakis_> pgervais: sheriffs don’t look at .fyi
[23:29:50] <thakis_> it can be restarted roughly at will
[23:30:01] <pgervais> ok, let's go then
[23:30:06] <thakis_> giving a heads-up (‘sheriffs: restarting fyi’) is nice though :-)
[23:30:36] <thakis_> (note that this isn’t true for memory.fyi, which isn’t really an fyi bot despite its name. but it’s true for the regular fyi bot)
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[23:31:28] <pgervais> I thought there must be an exception to the rule :-)
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[23:34:30] <pgervais> master is restarting
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[23:38:21] <dcheng_> Does anyone remember how to run the no compile tests in base/ ?
[23:41:32] <jamesr_> dcheng_: tools/nocompile_driver.py i'd guess. https://codereview.chromium.org/7458012
[23:42:33] <dcheng_> jamesr_: There's some gyp magic that's keeping it from working. I ended up just commenting out all the conditionals and the unconditional excludes in build/nocompile.gypi
[23:42:41] <dcheng_> jamesr_: It turns out the nocompile tests are completely bitrotten though =)
[23:43:36] <pgervais> chromium.fyi is back up (since a few minutes already, I think)
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[23:48:30] <jamesr_> dcheng_: shocking!
[23:48:51] <jamesr_> dcheng_: i looked a few weeks (maybe months?) back at pulling up no compile tests in a more sophisticated way using GN
[23:48:57] <jamesr_> so the flags etc would all match exactly
[23:48:58] <jamesr_> but it's hard
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