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[00:10:51] <cbreak> DarkShin: just do it a lot
[00:11:12] <cbreak> DarkShin: also, main objective should be readability
[00:11:17] <cbreak> not performance
[00:11:21] <cbreak> unless you know it's a problem
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[00:14:41] <Ameisen> cbreak - extension that I'm implemention in clang
[00:14:53] <Ameisen> not feature that is presently in any particular c++ compiler.
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[00:32:53] <DarkShin> cbreak: How can I test alot of readability with bool variables? I mean.. I should declare them manually? :o
[00:33:27] <cbreak> write a function using them
[00:33:39] <cbreak> and call that function
[00:33:48] <cbreak> be sure to do it with -O2 or similar
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[00:36:20] <DarkShin> all right
[00:36:48] <DarkShin> Ive did a benchmark with a bool[] array vs a vector<bool>
[00:37:01] <DarkShin> but I believe that vars is different stuff
[00:37:05] <DarkShin> are*
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[00:54:34] <kalven> is it representative?
[00:57:47] <cbreak> DarkShin: I can tell you that variables and a bool array will have very comparable performance
[00:58:19] <cbreak> DarkShin: and I can also tell you that vector<bool> will perform much better than vector<char> for gigantic amounts of data (many megabytes)
[00:58:34] <cbreak> and as I told you above: Focus on readability :)
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[01:07:18] <DarkShin> cbreak: Well, Im not sure if Im doing the tests correctly. But inside a loop accessing variables like m_a; without doing anything with it, was consuming no time at all to access. Against 0.000513 ms from a vector.
[01:07:44] <cbreak> yes, of course, because a single variable access will be easily cached and optimized away
[01:08:14] <cbreak> you should test with your actual code, that'll show you best which performance you can expect in your actual code :)
[01:08:14] <DarkShin> cbreak: using the if (m_a) {} like if I was using the bool for something, made things more comparable. With 0.000513 (vars) ms vs 0.000514 (vector) ms
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[01:09:34] <DarkShin> cbreak: I will give it a shot also. But these results are really showing that theres almost none tradeoff issue..
[01:10:08] <cbreak> the tradeoff is readability
[01:10:18] <cbreak> named variables are obviously more readable than a vector
[01:10:39] <cbreak> vector<bool> will only perform noticably better for large amounts of data
[01:10:52] <cbreak> in the order of many kb or more
[01:11:46] <kalven> you can use bitfields to get the advantage of small size and readability.
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[01:18:00] <DarkShin> cbreak: I agree, but sometimes the difference is just irrelevant. Thats what im trying to checkout
[01:18:06] <DarkShin> kalven: thanks kalven ill check
[01:18:33] <DarkShin> ill be probably using less than 20 vars
[01:18:34] <cbreak> kalven: yes, or std::bitset
[01:18:51] <cbreak> DarkShin: if you know the number at compile time, then don't use vector :)
[01:19:38] <kalven> bitset would be as readable as vector/array. not named fields.
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[01:43:34] <DarkShin> cbreak: But the code will be much bigger without using a vector. It can be simplified using vectorś
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[01:55:07] <DarkShin> bitset are twice slower than vectors
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[08:20:10] <cbreak> I'd expect bitset to be faster than vectors
[08:20:28] <cbreak> since there's one indirection and one allocation less in them
[08:20:33] <cbreak> and they take up less space
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[08:30:42] <mathu> i'm googling around for good recent writing comparing the 14/17 STL, boost, abseil, and folly. does anyone have opinions, or better yet, some prior writing about the topic?
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[08:31:41] <mathu> there's enough shared that it would be pretty time-consuming for me to play with four implementations in godbolt
[08:31:47] <mathu> well, three, because folly isn't in godbolt
[08:32:49] <cbreak> the standard is guaranteed
[08:33:01] <cbreak> and there are several implementations of the standard library
[08:33:20] <mathu> fair. in this context we're looking at clang's
[08:33:39] <mathu> (i think)
[08:33:42] <cbreak> boost is not part of the standard, so it is less reliable, but more portable
[08:33:57] <cbreak> since it is independently changed from the standard, it can adapt too
[08:34:07] <cbreak> and of course it is significantly bigger in scope
[08:34:22] <cbreak> there's little overlap apart from parts of boost that were integrated into the standard
[08:34:36] <cbreak> such as filesystem, chrono, thread and so on
[08:35:17] <cbreak> I've never looked at the other two
[08:35:52] <mathu> abseil is new and i don't really know if anyone uses folly haha
[08:36:53] <cbreak> probably the face book people? :)
[08:37:18] <mathu> yeah, and i think transitively anyone who uses react-native i guess
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[08:40:48] <mathu> man testing on godbolt it seems that boost::variant compiles absurdly slowly
[08:40:54] <mathu> abseil and std are speedy
[08:42:05] <cbreak> boost is compatible
[08:42:15] <cbreak> and that compatibility is paid for by being a template based monstrosity
[08:42:30] <cbreak> without having the benefit of newer features that make compilation easier like variadic templates
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[09:26:27] <amosbird> hmm, what's the correct way to rewrite this " for (auto & [_, vc] : vs) " so that the first structure bind doesn't trigger unused warning?
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[09:28:02] <Stanley00> amosbird: I thought we have std::ignore?
[09:29:05] <amosbird> have we?
[09:29:13] <amosbird> isn't that only for tie?
[09:29:55] <Stanley00> I'm not sure actually, could you please try it?
[09:30:30] <amosbird> it doesn't compile
[09:31:11] <Stanley00> okay, my bad then
[09:31:49] <amosbird> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41404001/structured-binding-with-maybe-unused
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[10:53:36] <markand> what kind of style do you use with braces? I see different style like: if you have the type name you don't put spaces foo{bli, bla};
[10:53:51] <markand> but if you omit it, sometimes people put spaces: return { 123, 456 };
[10:54:24] <mitch0> nah, no spaces next to braces
[10:54:38] <mitch0> return {123, 456};
[10:55:25] <mitch0> that reminds me, I should find some good argments agains the OTBS (over the Stroustrup style)
[10:56:12] <markand> you prefer allman style?
[10:56:20] <mitch0> no, I prefer Stroustrup
[10:56:33] <markand> ah no otbs just means braces everywhere
[10:56:33] <mitch0> almost OTBS, but the closing brace is on its own line
[10:56:42] <mitch0> so no } else { stuff
[10:56:46] <markand> okay
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[11:07:04] <TinoDidriksen> Egyptian braces? I like those.
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[11:09:48] <quarterback> Put { on a new line like if (condition) { ( on newline) . Some people prefer { on the same line for brevity.
[11:10:13] <TinoDidriksen> Stop restating the discussion.
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[12:01:30] <zap0> what happens if your simply ignore "cleaning up" after a detached thread's handler func has completed?
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[12:07:26] <Svitkona> more anecdotal evidence that benchmarking is hard https://stackoverflow.com/a/25416712/7703076
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[13:28:59] <markand> hello there
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[13:29:13] <markand> we are experiencing something weird with printing double
[13:30:05] <markand> std::printf("%.2lf", value); (value being a double set to 2.585) in VS2013 we get 2.59 and VS2017 2.58
[13:30:11] <markand> are there some rules in printf regarding rounding?
[13:31:38] <Haohmaru> as if M$ would obbey
[13:31:42] <mitch0> :)
[13:31:57] <mitch0> from the manpage: "The double argument is rounded and converted to decimal notation..."
[13:32:26] <markand> so is 2017 right while 2013 was doing bad format?
[13:32:51] <mitch0> well, 2.585 is rounded to 2.59, no?
[13:33:01] <mitch0> so it seems 2013 was right
[13:34:00] <markand> hmmm, in GCC we get the same result as 2017 though
[13:36:39] <PJBoy> { printf("%.2lg", 2.585); }
[13:36:40] <geordi> 2.6
[13:36:54] <PJBoy> yikes
[13:37:12] <PJBoy> oh
[13:37:13] <PJBoy> { printf("%.2lf", 2.585); }
[13:37:14] <geordi> 2.58
[13:37:50] <lh_mouse> geordi, { fesetround(FE_UPWARD); std::printf("%.2lf", value); }
[13:37:50] <geordi> error: 'value' was not declared in this scope
[13:37:58] <lh_mouse> geordi, { fesetround(FE_UPWARD); std::printf("%.2lf", 2.585); }
[13:37:59] <geordi> 2.59
[13:38:08] <lh_mouse> geordi, use FE_TONEAREST
[13:38:08] <geordi> 2.58
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[13:39:07] <Haohmaru> <close_enough.jpg>
[13:39:52] <markand> happily we're not writing a bank software :p
[13:40:25] <Haohmaru> pls round my balance towards positive infinity
[13:40:35] <lh_mouse> software is uncountable. :|
[13:40:51] <Haohmaru> one software, two software, three software...
[13:40:53] <lh_mouse> bank software is written in COBOL rather than c++.
[13:41:11] <lh_mouse> there are no null pointers in COBOL.
[13:41:30] <Haohmaru> is that a good thang?
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[13:45:13] <aoka> hey
[13:46:09] <markand> hello aoka
[13:46:19] <aoka> Werror=shadow turns Wshadow into an error. Is it possible to turn Wshadow=local only into an error?
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[14:07:19] <mitch0> aoka: ^
[14:23:42] <markand> and instead of using printf, what is the equivalent in iostream?
[14:23:46] <markand> setprecision?
[14:24:11] <markand> geordi, << std::setprecision(2) << 2.585;
[14:24:11] <geordi> 2.6
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[14:44:08] <mitch0> hm.
[14:44:57] <mitch0> << setprecision(3) << 2.585 << ", " << 2.685;
[14:44:58] <geordi> 2.58, 2.69
[14:45:44] <mitch0> ah:
[14:45:48] <mitch0> << setprecision(30) << 2.585 << ", " << 2.685;
[14:45:49] <geordi> 2.58499999999999996447286321199, 2.68500000000000005329070518201
[14:46:20] <mitch0> but then why don't I get the ugly number with this:
[14:46:30] <mitch0> << 2.585
[14:46:30] <geordi> 2.585
[14:46:48] <mitch0> oh, probably it has a default of 6 or so
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[15:13:56] <batman_nair> could anyone explain what exactly happens here?
[15:13:57] <batman_nair> https://ideone.com/9SXQZ8
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[15:18:25] <mitch0> my guess is that a temporary is created but I'm not really sure why...
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[15:19:42] <mitch0> yes, that's what happens
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[15:20:17] <mitch0> find a language lawyer to tell you why (int)l creates a temporary though ;)
[15:21:07] <Svitkona> well, why not
[15:22:17] <batman_nair> why does it create a temporary is my doubt
[15:23:08] <batman_nair> logically both the function calls seem the same, but explicit casting creates a temporary
[15:23:40] <batman_nair> casting to (int&) doesnt create a temporary
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[15:27:39] <ville> that's what casting to a value means... create an object of this type
[15:28:03] <Svitkona> note that in this specific case, `(int) l` is equivalent to `static_cast<int>(l)`
[15:28:05] <ville> err that's poorly worded
[15:29:19] <urdh> mitch0: [expr.cast]-1 specifies that the result is a prvalue, which is then temporarily materialized as an xvalue when you bind it to the reference (if I understand it correctly)
[15:29:55] <ville> casting to an object type would be better way to say it
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[15:33:26] <batman_nair> so all explicit casts actually creates a copy?
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[15:35:52] <paperManu> except when casting to a reference of the same type I guess
[15:36:16] <ville> batman_nair: object type is kind if important there.
[15:36:30] <ville> batman_nair: references are not an object type.
[15:36:54] <ville> just be mindful of what the object type is. if you cast a pointer to another kind of pointer, you get a temporary pointer. because pointers are objects
[15:39:40] <batman_nair> ville, cool, thanks :)
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[16:20:51] <KungFoo_> just did an "nm <<binary name>>"
[16:21:03] <quarterback> markand, They are crazy, those 2.5 people...they did that purely out of jealousy.
[16:21:29] <KungFoo_> "U" means undefined - I'm not sure exactly what it means. The Symbol was referenced and it depends on something else?
[16:22:26] <KungFoo_> or symbol was referenced but nothing was ever statically linked?
[16:22:51] <KungFoo_> lemme restate "nm << library.so name >>" is what I did - it wasn't an executable
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[16:51:07] <morfin> if you write code with Qt do you use it's implementations for shared/unique ptr or standard?
[16:52:50] <morfin> unique_ptr in Qt is QScopedPointer if i unredstood docs correctly
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[16:59:00] <IceN9ne> morfin: it depends on your usage. If you're interfacing with a library that takes/returns a QScopedPointer, you should probably use it, but if it's purely internal to your code, I'd use std::unique_ptr
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[17:00:43] <IceN9ne> also, I'm not seeing move semantics enabled for QScopedPointer
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[17:03:23] <morfin60> ah crap internet failure
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[17:04:38] <morfin> QScopedPointer looks like boost::scoped_ptr
[17:04:43] <morfin> or whatever it was called
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[19:34:33] <solidfox> is it bad to make a destructor just to clean up SDL2 stuff?
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[19:40:52] <solidfox> do i need to follow the rule of five if i use a pointer from SDL2 functions in my class?
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[19:55:12] <solidfox> i thought about it, and decided to implement all 5 because i dont want a copy to just copy the pointer, and then the copy goes out of scope and sdl is quit, and the original is in an invalid state
[19:55:49] <cbreak> solidfox: you can use shared or unique_ptr
[19:56:02] <cbreak> or create your own non-copyable wrapper
[19:59:50] <solidfox> i think im just gonna pass the sdl2 stuff into the constructor instead
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[20:21:32] <ville> that's still not going to really change your responsibility on deciding who takes care of the lifetime
[20:23:37] <ville> it's pretty simple really: "who owns this resource?", "can the resource be copied? do i want my owning type be copyable?", "can the resource be moved? do i want my owning type be movable?"
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[20:33:54] <solidfox> ville: yes it does
[20:34:22] <solidfox> ville: my issue was calling SDL_quit on a window and renderer twice..
[20:34:45] <solidfox> ville: now it is impossible unless some idiot (me) makes two context objects and passes the same sdl2 objects
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[20:35:32] <solidfox> ville: actually that would be fine i just realized
[20:35:45] <solidfox> because quit is called outside the class...
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[20:36:41] <ville> then you didn't understand what i said
[20:37:13] <solidfox> ville: no you didnt understand what problem i was having lol
[20:37:17] <ville> i did
[20:37:27] <ville> re-read my first sentence...
[20:37:45] <solidfox> ville: the lifetime of sdl2's objects are in main..
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[20:38:07] <ville> yes, so you still had to decide on the lifetime owner. like i said you still would have to do
[20:38:25] <solidfox> what
[20:39:07] <ville> 21:18:26 < ville> that's still not going to really change your responsibility on deciding who takes care of the lifetime
[20:39:17] <solidfox> yeah i dont understand you at all
[20:40:00] <ville> no matter who you eventually decide is actually responsible for the lifetime of a resource, it's still your decission. you perhaps don't understand that you now made main(), for example, responsible for it
[20:40:47] <solidfox> yeah.. so when i decided to pass those objects into the context constructor, i was deciding main should handle its lifetime
[20:40:53] <solidfox> so its good now
[20:41:11] <solidfox> kinda makes main messy though
[20:41:17] <ville> you could do a semantic onwership transfer when you pass it in to the constructor
[20:41:44] <ville> void f(T* x); is kind of the archtype of ambiguous ownerhip model for a API boundary
[20:41:54] <ville> ownership model
[20:42:31] <solidfox> archtype?
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[20:42:49] <ville> archetype
[20:43:03] <ville> example
[20:43:41] <ville> you can pass a resource of type T into the function, but it says nothing about the ownership model really, not as far as the language is concerned anyways
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[20:44:20] <solidfox> yeah i tend to avoid ownership models
[20:44:27] <solidfox> it seems complicated
[20:44:28] <ville> you can't
[20:44:32] <solidfox> oh ok
[20:44:34] <ville> c++ is all about that
[20:44:52] <ville> that's what managing the lifetime of objects/resources is
[20:45:19] <solidfox> alright
[20:45:26] <ville> you may attach your own ideas to the T* that it means no ownership transfer in your code base. some other people may have other ideas in their codebases. that's why T* is fairly ambiguous
[20:45:34] <solidfox> well to be honest context is supposed to be a sole instance class
[20:46:03] <ville> and if you want to be more ambiguous/confusing you've T* that transfer ownership nd T* that don't transfer ownership
[20:46:12] <ville> in the same code base
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[20:49:13] <fooobarrr> we have our own build system/source control tool (wraps svn) - I'm wondering if anyone has had to make the business case before of "this is wrong and its costing us money" and had any ideas on how to shake management loose on being stuck to this idea
[20:49:57] <T`aZ> fooobarrr: from my experience, unless you can come up with really hard figures about huge amount of money wasted, nothing is gonna change
[20:50:01] <ac_slater> hey guys, I have some C functions that have some weak functions. I was to override them in C++. I wrapped my definitions in `extern "C" { }` but that doesn't seem to work
[20:50:01] <fooobarrr> just imagine you went into a startup in the early 90's and haven't poked your head outside for 30 years to help get yourself in their shoes
[20:50:02] <ac_slater> Any idea?
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[20:50:35] <fooobarrr> what is a "weak function"?
[20:50:39] <solidfox> ville: it'd be nice if the code was not in main, and also if a 2nd instance of context was impossible to make
[20:50:40] <fooobarrr> skipped leg day?
[20:50:53] <ac_slater> fooobarrr: eh
[20:50:55] <ac_slater> ;)
[20:50:56] <solidfox> ville: just so sdl init and quit functions cant be called twice
[20:51:25] <fooobarrr> ac_slater: do you mean you have C functions using "#pragma weak" ?
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[20:51:28] <fooobarrr> can you provide an example?
[20:51:36] <ac_slater> fooobarrr: __attribute__((weak)) but yea
[20:52:09] <ac_slater> I'm struggling to find a paste site that allows me to do mulitple files.
[20:52:31] <fooobarrr> ah
[20:52:46] <solidfox> ville: or perhaps i could allow two for two windows, but then the copy constructor would need to create a new window and stuff
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[20:52:59] <T`aZ> fooobarrr: on the positive side, you are using svn, which isn't that bad, compared to cvs, rcs or sourcesafe, so be glad ? :p
[20:53:02] <ac_slater> Anyway, in a C translation unit I do `void __weak foo() { }` and in my c++ translation unit, I do `extern "C" { void foo() { } }`. I compile their object files with the same link call
[20:53:04] <ac_slater> linker *
[20:53:19] <fooobarrr> T`aZ: we we're using the supreme method of "folders" before
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[20:53:25] <fooobarrr> before being a few years ago
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[21:03:40] <ville> solidfox: if this is a personal project then perhaps don't over-engineer things
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[21:04:55] <ville> solidfox: one of the first things you should get from somewhere, or write your self, are some "generic" resource wrappers, that you can reuse over and over. it will make interacting with a bunch of c libraries simpler.
[21:05:30] <solidfox> ville: ok
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