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[07:23:10] <hungrywolf> Hello I am trying to get started with opengl
[07:23:26] <hungrywolf> I try to make a file main.c using
[07:23:43] <hungrywolf> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IyD7fj5QFhs0sUwNh3g1nw
[07:24:06] <hungrywolf> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/2ghR1y9XtI3KwYlki8IBww main.c
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[07:25:22] <hungrywolf> pardon me the first make file isn't it, I forgot a link
[07:25:24] <hungrywolf> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Dpo9GdkDEAEUMMpjWa3JQQ
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[07:26:58] <hungrywolf> It gives me this https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/HBIjH1e158xYLATfdFHt1Q
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[07:28:05] <hungrywolf> folder structure of my ~/include
[07:28:05] <hungrywolf> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/s9fv-Svh2FN6K0oSF8jxNA
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[07:35:05] <hungrywolf> fixed it by changing the order of the includes and just including -lglfw instead of -lglfw
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[11:15:51] <markand> hello
[11:16:18] <markand> a colleague requested me a solution to make a smart pointer that may refer to a already existing object (to not destroy) and possibly to a new object that we need to destroy
[11:16:25] <markand> I'm thinking of this: https://ideone.com/VLaBiM
[11:18:22] <TheSchaf_> why not just use a shared_ptr?
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[11:20:53] <markand> because there is a public function that returns a pointer that we must not destroy
[11:20:56] <markand> and this is not changeable yet
[11:22:22] <markand> the current code looks like this: http://paste.malikania.fr/paste/76
[11:22:52] <markand> and we can't change GetStandardImplementationObject() now, it is used in too many places
[11:23:21] <markand> this function return a reference actually
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[11:25:37] <urdh> don't inherit from shared_ptr
[11:26:08] <urdh> compose if you must, but in this case you could just construct a shared_ptr with a no-op deleter in the case where no deletion should be done
[11:26:11] <markand> I wanted to use unique_ptr but unfortunately the function reset can not take a new deleter
[11:26:53] <markand> oh I see
[11:27:15] <Gvidon> markand: Doesn't answer the question why you need a new pointer type. shared_ptr is perfectly capable of what you want
[11:27:23] <markand> I could create a function like std::shared_ptr<T> make_owned_ptr(T*) that will set a no-op deleter
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[11:29:54] <markand> https://ideone.com/ejYkwn
[11:29:58] <markand> like this is cleaner
[11:30:20] <Gvidon> You don't even need a function, just call the good old constructor. "myOldPtr = shared_ptr<Foo>(nonOwningPointer, [](auto p) {})"
[11:30:34] <markand> yeah, but this will happen a lot of time in the code :P
[11:30:40] <markand> so basically, it answers DRY principle
[11:33:44] <Gvidon> Mix of English and French comments is really cute, but please don't do IRL :)
[11:33:50] <markand> of course not
[11:33:53] <markand> it's for my colleague :p
[11:34:09] <markand> she said it's too complicated :(
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[12:12:02] <r3m1> hello
[12:16:17] <r3m1> say I have a properly initialized std::vector<std::unique_ptr<T>> vect. In my code I want to get a std::unique_ptr<T> from the vector according to some condition. How can I should I declare the unique_ptr and initialize it ? I mean what syntax. e.g (not working) std::unique_ptr<T> &ptr = nullptr; for (auto p : vect) { if (p->satisfySomeCondition()) { ptr = p; break } }
[12:16:36] <urdh> markand: if you define a suitable deleter you could make it a unique_ptr instead: https://godbolt.org/z/-CbaAs
[12:17:08] <r3m1> my code is not templated, T is a properly defined class
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[12:17:37] <urdh> r3m1: why not use std::find?
[12:18:05] <urdh> that'll give you an iterator to the unique_ptr you want, and won't erroneously try to copy it
[12:19:32] <Ingersol> assignment to ref type may trigger copy?
[12:20:43] <urdh> references are immutable
[12:20:54] <urdh> "assigning" to a reference assigns to the referenced object
[12:21:07] <urdh> clearly this involves either copying or moving the unique_ptr (in this case, copying)
[12:21:11] <TheSchaf> you could wrap in std::optional
[12:21:24] <urdh> (actually, not even sure how " std::unique_ptr<T> &ptr = nullptr;" would be valid code)
[12:21:45] <Ingersol> yep, strange construct
[12:21:45] <TheSchaf> you are trying to have a nullable reference, which is not what refernces do
[12:22:15] <TheSchaf> so you should use a pointer or wrap it somehow
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[12:23:09] <Ingersol> oh, completelly forgot immutability of references.
[12:23:47] <urdh> r3m1: if you construct an actual testcase it might be more obvious which of these solutions would be most suitable
[12:23:51] <Ingersol> may be because it is used in constructors only
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[13:09:32] <r3m1> Thanks Ingersol and urdh for your suggestions. I actally found a stackoverflow thread describing my problem. I just can't use unique_ptr in this way, I will just go with getting the pointer that will do
[13:09:37] <r3m1> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20773351/error-after-trying-to-get-unique-ptr-element-from-vector
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[15:34:21] <Haohmaru> \o/
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[15:45:39] <quarterback> A few characters "" are prefixed to std::string variable, why?
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[15:46:15] <quarterback> There seems to be no code where those characters were added to a std::string type.
[15:46:38] <TheSchaf> ??
[15:47:15] <quarterback> TheSchaf,  is added to a string. When I print the string, the characters  are displayed in the beginning.
[15:49:13] <quarterback> I am also reading a file into a std::string type variable.
[15:49:28] <TheSchaf> so you are doing something weird
[15:50:08] <velco> reading a file how ?
[15:50:40] <velco> with std::getline ?
[15:50:56] <velco> with operator >> ?
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[15:51:11] <velco> whata if the file contains  ?
[15:51:12] <quarterback> TheSchaf, This is the code, which adds chars to a string - https://dpaste.de/L8hS
[15:51:39] <TheSchaf> ew
[15:53:15] <quarterback> velco, It seemed like the file contained those characters. I deleted the file and created a new txt file. The error is gone.
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[16:02:21] <quarterback> TheSchaf, You are acting
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[16:04:47] <TheSchaf> reading character by character is bad
[16:04:59] <TheSchaf> resizing a string character by character is bad
[16:05:08] <TheSchaf> using SINT8 to read a character is bad
[16:05:18] <TheSchaf> your indentation is bad
[16:05:33] <quarterback> I fixed the indentation.
[16:05:49] <quarterback> string chars are signed char anyway.
[16:06:25] <velco> they aren't
[16:06:48] <TheSchaf> whether char is signed or unsigned is implementation defined
[16:06:50] <quarterback> basic string consists of char type.
[16:07:02] <quarterback> I think TinoDidriksen confirmed this a while ago.
[16:07:04] <velco> "char", "signed char" and "unsigned char" are distinct types
[16:07:38] <quarterback> I am reading into char types
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[16:10:33] <velco> reading character by character is bad
[16:10:39] <velco> others aren't
[16:12:02] <velco> hmm, actually are there any asymptotic complexity guarantees about appending characters to a string ?
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[16:13:13] <rar> hey all. Is there a good tool to run a process for N hours and then get a report of the maximum amount of memory used?
[16:13:16] <rar> *nix
[16:13:25] <velco> yeah, amortized constant (fort std::string::push_back)
[16:13:52] <quarterback> Not sure about that. I had been appending lines and chars, it doesn't make any difference. Reading lines is like 3X faster than reading chars from a file using ifstream.
[16:14:32] <velco> only 3x ?
[16:15:11] <TheSchaf> there is no reason to not read the file all at once for your case
[16:15:12] <velco> (ofc, the time spent is not while appending to the string)
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[16:18:19] <Ingersol> wonder why it is so slow. with system buffers everywhere top to the bottoms it shouldnt affect perfomancy so badly
[16:19:02] <velco> function calls?
[16:19:18] <velco> god forbid, system calls ?
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[16:23:08] <mitch0> quarterback: not sure if it applies to your case (haven't scrolled back all the way), but have you tried std::ios::sync_with_stdio(false) ?
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[16:24:59] <quarterback> mitch0, No, I haven't. I didn't mean to complicate it with std::ios type constructs. That library is new to me actually. I will try it sometime.
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[16:28:19] <mitch0> just add that one line to your main() and see if it makes any difference
[16:30:44] <quarterback> its not just a main() function. There are more than 30 functions in that project.
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[16:31:01] <quarterback> Will try it, thanks for letting me know.
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[16:32:15] <mitch0> quarterback: you have to do that call only once
[16:32:46] <mitch0> but do read its documentation to understand what it does
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[16:54:48] <seni> I've got a class in a header file with some virtual methods. in the cc file I've defining those methods. for some reason when compiling I'm getting an error "invalid new-expression of abstract class type", which points me to a function: "because the following virtual functions are pure <virtual-method>". I'm certain the declaration of the function in question matches in the .h and .cc (so I *am* defining it and the
[16:54:48] <seni> class should *not* be abstract), could there another reason why this error would appear?
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[16:55:34] <rpav> rar: valgrind probably, though it's slow, but there are a ton of tools available and it would probably be relatively trivial to intercept malloc yourself if you want a trivial 5-minute hack to count stuff
[16:56:06] <rpav> rar: compiling with profiling i think gives you that too though also may be slow
[16:56:45] <urdh> seni: not really
[16:59:57] <seni> oh I figured it out
[17:00:50] <seni> can I disable the `const`ness of a method in the child class?
[17:01:03] <urdh> uh, no
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[17:01:51] <quarterback> seni, About your previous question on type casting, use static_cast preferably.
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[17:27:36] <seni> do all methods a const method calls have to be const? my real question is is there some hacky way to get around a const restriction of a method to modify the class?
[17:29:32] <seni> oh I just found out about mutable
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[17:41:32] <Svitkona> why, though?
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[17:49:16] <seni> because I'm adding a new class to a library and for it to work the method in question has to modify the class. for the 20 other classes which derive from the same parent it doesn't modify the class so the method is const
[17:51:38] <Svitkona> very confusing
[17:51:51] <Svitkona> if it modifies the object then it's not the same function
[17:51:55] <Svitkona> so what's the issue
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[17:56:56] <seni> there's no issue, mutable works for what I needed. and yes it is possible to have a function that does the same thing on the level of abstraction that I care about, and yet in one case it's const and the other it's not
[17:58:20] <Svitkona> it's your code
[17:58:29] <Svitkona> but it sounds to me like you're using mutable to patch up a design flaw
[17:58:40] <seni> 99% is not my code
[17:59:22] <seni> im modifying a library
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[18:22:01] <quarterback> TheSchaf, Formatting is changed in the string if lines are read from a file instead of chars.
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[18:58:05] <Aleric> I assume it's ok to call sysconf before reaching main...?
[18:58:48] <Aleric> geordi: static size_t const page_size = sysconf(_SC_PAGE_SIZE); int main() { cout << page_size; }
[18:58:48] <geordi> 4096
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[19:22:43] <m0shbear> Aleric: i'm unaware of POSIX specifying any semantics as far as C++ and static init is concerned so it technically is UB
[19:24:53] <Aleric> If the static is part of a compilation unit that belongs to the main executable then it should be initialized after all shared libraries are initialized - in which case it should just work, as then there is no difference with doing it first thing in main().
[19:25:28] <Aleric> In fact, I think the only requirement to make it sane is that the initialization is done after initialization of libc.
[19:25:36] <Aleric> (glib)
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[19:26:05] <cbreak> the order of initialization of namespace scope objects is unspecified between TUs
[19:26:26] <cbreak> I don't think you can assume either way if glib or your own program is initialized first
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[19:30:18] <kalven> glibc calls main, so...
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[19:35:21] <m0shbear> i'm personally unaware of how sinit interacts with _start. is there a c main that calls sinit then c++ main?
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[19:37:55] <SlashLife> kalven: That just means that glibc statics need to be available when glibc starts. It doesn't mean that your statics are initialized afterwards.
[19:39:10] <m0shbear> kalven: when is calling main a function of glibc and not of gcc's crt0/crtN that shims between the OS _start and C(++)'s main?
[19:39:32] <amosbird> how does c-style cast differ from named constructor cast?
[19:40:36] <m0shbear> amosbird: one is like a ladder of static_cast reinterpret_cast and const_cast; the other is kind of a static_cast
[19:41:02] <m0shbear> which is why C casts are bad -- they are imprecise as to which exact cast you are doing
[19:41:06] <amosbird> how can one differ them by syntax?
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[19:44:43] <m0shbear> amosbird: what
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[19:52:31] <cbreak> amosbird: use named casts
[19:52:32] <cbreak> that's how
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[20:42:28] <zakkkk> hello all
[20:42:36] <zakkkk> i want just to disable paste in a qlineedite
[20:42:41] <zakkkk> any one can help me please
[20:43:45] <m0shbear> [cmake] what form of list will generate something similar to `X{a,b}Y` so that a list `XaY;XbY` is produced?
[20:45:29] <zakkkk> i use qt framwork
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[21:04:36] <cbreak> zakkkk: make it non-editable
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[23:41:17] <zakkkk> any one can help me
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[23:43:32] <blackpawn> whats up zakkkk?
[23:44:25] <zakkkk> hi blackpawn
[23:44:38] <zakkkk> i just want to disable paste with the framwork qt
[23:44:52] <zakkkk> im fighting with this shit 1 week
[23:44:56] <zakkkk> but nothing
[23:45:07] <blackpawn> ah sorry i don't use qt
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[23:45:23] <zakkkk> blackpawn, its better i swear
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[23:57:49] <ac_slater> zakkkk: just ask in the Qt channel
[23:58:12] <zakkkk> ac_slater, no one is here :/
[23:58:27] <ac_slater> #qt has over 200 people right now
[23:58:46] <ac_slater> I think it's the way you ask stuff
[23:59:01] <ac_slater> you need to be more concise and composed. Create a small sample file people can compile and test
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