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[00:50:46] <redlizard> What happens if I have two mesh objects, sharing the same mesh data block, with the two objects having different sets of vertex groups?
[00:51:03] <redlizard> If I understand correctly, the vertex group weights are stored with the mesh data block, not with the object.
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[02:32:55] <Verts> redlizard: I think that you're right about vertex groups. They are stored with the vertex group data block.
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[02:39:52] <redlizard> Verts: Yeah, I tested it, and this does seem to be the case.
[02:39:58] <redlizard> In 2.79, at least.
[02:40:55] <redlizard> If I make a linked copy of a mesh object, change the vertex groups, and then change the weight painting, the weight painting of the original object is broken.
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[04:58:22] <galex-713> kiun versionon de opengl blender uzas?
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[05:04:16] <stiv> opengl 3.3
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[05:35:03] <galex-713> do kial ghi funkcias che mi, kie opengl 3 kutime ne funkcias pro tro malnova vidkardo?
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[05:58:02] <galex-713> oops, english, forgot
[05:58:31] <galex-713> so, why does blender works with me, while normally my old gpu doesn’t support opengl 3?
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[06:49:48] <bzztploink> galex-713, depends on your blender version 2.7x opengl 2.x was enough, for 2.8 it's 3.3+
[06:51:08] <galex-713> 2,79
[06:51:21] <galex-713> ah, so it soon won’t work anymore…
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[10:10:40] <arhat> Does anybody here know how to set user preferences with python? I have 2 GPUs, one can use OptiX and one CUDA, so I'd like to render with the CLI using the two different devices.
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[10:29:47] <arhat> nvm, got it, thanks.
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[13:48:40] <Sushi> I'm encountering what seems to be a strange ridig body bug
[13:49:48] <Sushi> I have some objects that i deleted that are still interfering with the world, they are marked as orphan but persist on reload
[13:50:11] <Sushi> and the purge option doesn't do anything
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[15:39:12] <day> where did the menu go that let's you set the sides of a newly added cylinder/sphere etc.?
[15:40:00] <Sushi> bottom left, it's collapsed by default
[15:40:19] <day> ah there
[15:40:40] <day> why would they call it 'add cylinder'? the cylinder is already added at that point :?
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[17:06:14] <portnov> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/284644/73611060-ca3a0b00-45ff-11ea-8f93-df2db0da05e5.png
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[17:23:22] <Rookie> nice work portnov
[17:23:37] <portnov> thanks!
[17:23:56] <Rookie> cool fabric like material on a fractal like shape
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[18:57:39] <Verts> I am having issues assinging keyframes to values for Freestyle line style modifiers. The values do not interpolate between keyframes. For example, I add a keyframe to the seed value on a noise modifier, then change the frame & value and add another keyframe. Frames between these numbers should change the values, but they don't. Issue with Blender 2.8+, works in 2.79
[18:58:16] <stiv> did you look at the curve? specifically, the interpolation
[18:59:50] <Verts> stiv: Yes. It is linear interpolation.
[19:00:15] <stiv> hmmm...
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[19:54:13] <stiv> dang, that mantaflow makes some nice looking fire!
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[20:20:35] <Robitron> Why does my comforter keep sliding off my bed as if the bed were made of greased up glass?
[20:21:35] <stiv> bad settings. try turning down the gravity
[20:21:59] <Robitron> oh. I thought it should be a friction thing.
[20:22:31] <stiv> that too!
[20:26:44] <Robitron> LOL I didn't even see the friction setting in the collision objects. I looked right at it and said, I don't see a friction setting! lol
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[20:49:24] <mattfly> what is the reason i can't check the rotation for a hair particle system
[20:49:31] <mattfly> ?
[20:50:08] <stiv> because hair is one-dimensional?
[20:53:22] <mattfly> i am using a group of meshes i created extruding planes
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[20:54:18] <mattfly> but even if i select an object doesnt work
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[20:56:43] <mattfly> look @stiv https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/185590907947581440/673614859681661139/unknown.png
[20:56:57] <mattfly> it is kinda greyed out
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[21:51:03] <arhat> Anybody here script with python?
[21:52:58] <stiv> python... we have heard of that
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[22:00:20] <arhat> Haha, perhaps there is another solution than Python. I have one GPU I can use OptiX with, and one I can use CUDA with. I'd like to use both of these at the same time. The only thing I could think of was to write a Python script to change the preferences, and then render using commandline with those prefs, hoping starting a second instance with CUDA wouldn't change the preference for the already running Optix script.
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[22:00:59] <arhat> But the script seems to work half the time and crash randomly the other half
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[22:07:01] <stiv> i seem to recall a cpu + gpu choice in Prefs or somewhere
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[22:09:47] <arhat> Yeah, I set those but then it crashes. Just realized that Blender'
[22:10:02] <arhat> Blender's `python` chat was referring to blender.chat and not IRC
[22:10:07] <arhat> I'll ask there, thanks! :P
[22:10:23] <Aritodo> hmm, sounds like it might be a driver issue
[22:10:28] <Aritodo> or hardware limitation
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[22:44:49] <redlizard> Can anyone explain in some detail how vertex normals, loop normals, and custom loop normals are related?
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[22:45:06] <redlizard> I'm trying to write some scripts that deal with custom loop normals, and they are not behaving at all in the way I would expect them to.
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[22:55:29] <ze> day: that menu is for modifying the last operation, which was 'add cylinder' until you've done something else (where that dialog will go away or change to something else)
[22:56:18] <ze> mattfly: if you're talking about the settings in the 'Rotation' section being grayed out, there's a blank checkbox there in front of 'Rotation' to enable it...
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[23:03:44] <mattfly> ze this checkbox is greyed out
[23:03:48] <mattfly> look at my image
[23:04:55] <ze> oh, sorry, i see it now
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[23:07:20] <mattfly> what is causing that...
[23:07:26] <mattfly> even for a new particle system i have that
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[23:55:35] <jaggz> mattfly, did you comb?
[23:56:49] <mattfly> no.. running bpy.data.particles["ParticleSettings.001"].use_rotations=True made it work
[23:57:01] <mattfly> clicking didnt work
[23:57:32] <jaggz> I don't even have a Rotation option if I select Hair
[23:57:36] <jaggz> and it's greyed out in Emitter mode
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