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[01:44:52] <LiENUS> is it possible to have authentication on a torrent tracker so my friends and i can use it for work purposes and have it private?
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[01:57:49] <The_8472> LiENUS, yes (+ private flag on the torrents), but that's not strong security. if it's important data you should simply encrypt it before torrenting
[02:10:08] <LiENUS> The_8472, well i just want something my friend and i can use to exchange work files
[02:10:25] <LiENUS> ftp server means i have to remember to clean up the files later and makes it harder to share with others
[02:12:34] <The_8472> run a cron job that prunes older files from the tmp dir
[02:13:03] <LiENUS> it also means if my friend wants to send me his file he has to sit around and babysit the ftp transfer
[02:13:14] <LiENUS> whereas torrent if the transfer mucks up torrent corrects it
[02:13:54] <LiENUS> we both have systems we can leave up indefinately while it transfers
[02:16:18] <LiENUS> so i was thinking bittorrent might do better than ftp
[02:16:19] <The_8472> i told you what your options are
[02:16:39] <LiENUS> what kind of authentication  can i do though?
[02:17:01] <LiENUS> can i use bitstorm and just configure apache for basic http auth?
[02:17:10] <LiENUS> or is there a different authentication scheme i need to use for bt
[02:17:11] <The_8472> http basic auth should work, depending on the client
[02:17:24] <The_8472> some trackers simply put identification tokens in the url
[02:17:41] <The_8472> and give everyone an individualized torrent
[02:18:20] <LiENUS> any recomendations on trackers that do auth?
[02:19:08] <The_8472> no, can't help with that
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[03:29:47] <DeHackEd> ... I just downloaded a .torrent file with 16 megabyte pieces...
[03:31:12] <DeHackEd> file size 1.5 G  (93 pieces)
[03:31:21] <Switeck> someone was being silly
[03:31:48] <DeHackEd> no. this is beyond silly.
[03:32:07] <Switeck> private torrent?
[03:32:12] <DeHackEd> yeah
[03:32:16] <Switeck> there's why
[03:32:19] <DeHackEd> but even so this is anomalous
[03:32:49] <Switeck> 16 MB gives the initial seeder a slightly larger window to seed more of the torrent before a heavy lifter ends up doing most of the uploading.
[03:33:27] <DeHackEd> there's better ways to do that... I think someone was being "cool" with a tiny .torrent file
[03:33:55] <Switeck> that's only part of it.
[03:34:11] <Switeck> If the other part is giving each peer 15 MB then cutting them off, it's even worse
[03:34:55] <DeHackEd> I don't think so, but I also can't know for sure. the torrent's healthy at this point and been alive for several ays
[03:36:00] <Switeck> they can't expect to buy more than a day or 2 using that method.
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[09:19:14] <kjetilho> with 16 MiB pieces, selective downloading is less effective
[09:24:50] <Switeck> actually downright horrible
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[20:30:09] <SinnerNyx> is there some way to allow bittorrent on a residential network but somehow maintain enough bandwidth to allow regular users to browse without significant lag
[20:30:11] <SinnerNyx> ?
[20:37:15] <alus> SinnerNyx: use uTP
[20:37:25] <alus> and disable TCP
[20:37:37] <alus> SinnerNyx: what client do you use?
[20:42:14] <pyroscope> SinnerNyx: throttle to some percentage of available bandwidth. if people switch their computers off when not used, or you monitor the network somehow, this can be automated to go to full throttle when resources are unused
[20:48:48] <The_8472> or get a router with traffic shaping. or get your own line.
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[21:20:42] <SinnerNyx> alus: hey I do use uTP, but I was wondering if there some way of forcing it network wide
[21:21:08] <alus> SinnerNyx: you can probably disable TCP in your client
[21:21:48] <alus> SinnerNyx: if you mean how to control other clients run by people on your network, there is not a way
[21:22:10] <SinnerNyx> alus: i was more looking for network bandwidth management I suppose. which requires a better router then the one I have.
[21:22:28] <SinnerNyx> alus: however I am interested in why disabling TCP will allow me to browse more freely
[21:22:35] <SinnerNyx> and what are the negative effects of doing so
[21:23:24] <alus> SinnerNyx: disabling TCP in your BitTorrent client prevents it from using TCP to connect to peers. TCP has bad congestion issues at full speed.
[21:24:12] <SinnerNyx> ic. how will that effect my torrents?
[21:24:51] <alus> SinnerNyx: the downside is you will not be able to connect to some TCP-only peers, but there the number of those is decreasing all the time. unless the torrent has very very few peers this probably will not be an issue.
[21:25:14] <SinnerNyx> interesting. thx alot alus. you've been very helpful
[21:25:56] <SinnerNyx> so now i just need to figure out how to disable tcp in utorrent
[21:28:47] <alus> SinnerNyx: if I'm not mistaken, set bt.transp_disposition to 26
[21:31:39] <SinnerNyx> i'll google bt.transp_disposition. i don't like messing with the unofficial ut settings
[21:33:34] <DWKnight> unofficial?
[21:33:46] <DWKnight> how is something documented in the user manual for a program "unofficial"?
[21:35:58] <SinnerNyx> DWKnight, perhaps my nomenclature is wrong, but I consider any option that allows you to enter settings that can cause undocumented behaviour to be unofficial.
[21:36:21] <DWKnight> then, even by that definition, the setting isn't unofficial
[21:37:44] <SinnerNyx> I see. Thanks for clearing that up
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