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[18:46:04] <LobStoR> is it normal to see large amounts of bandwidth wasted on torrents with web seeds? for example, http://burnbit.com/torrent/172785/enwiki_20110620_pages_articles_xml_bz2
[18:46:30] <LobStoR> (client is utorrent 2.2.1 and server is lighttpd/1.4.26)
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[20:20:29] <Firon> LobStoR: uT 2.x's webseeding is pretty busted
[20:22:21] <LobStoR> i mean, i guess "large amounts" is sort of a vague description
[20:23:28] * The_8472 wonders why people use webseeds anyway. it's not that hard to just run an instance on a server and drop some torrents and files into it
[20:23:42] <LobStoR> on average i see anywhere from 1% to 10% wasted on web seeded torrents. the wasted bandwidth is still worthwhile for all the other benefits of BitTorrent.
[20:24:00] <The_8472> that's not really all that much
[20:24:27] <The_8472> i mean it's certainly one could improve upon. but compared to piece corruption attacks in the past... this is nothing
[20:24:27] <LobStoR> it's not too much, but still that's 700MB on a 7GB transfer
[20:25:17] <The_8472> like i said, it certainly could be improved. but web seeds sortof are a niche feature.
[20:26:02] <LobStoR> yeah, i wasn't complaining, just checking to see if it was just me
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[22:15:14] <Gallomimia> still trying to track down varlock. i heard a rumor that he's into the business world and i wouldn't put it past him to shun the seedy underworld of torrents now that his reputation is on the line
[22:30:41] <klapaucjusz> Gallomimia: seedy and leechy.
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[22:31:47] <Gallomimia> hehe well when we first got into the world of it it was hotline. client/server system
[22:35:46] <The_8472> klapaucjusz, btw... i remember you complaining about DHT node load. after about 1 month of uptime the growth seems to level off. and just a few minutes of downtime are enough to make a serious dent into the traffic
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[22:46:51] <K`Tetch> [TorrentFreak] The Copyright Lobby Absolutely Loves Child Pornography - http://torrentfreak.com/the-copyright-lobby-absolutely-loves-child-pornography-110709/
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[23:02:38] <The_8472> i think i've seen that before
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[23:03:42] <klapaucjusz> The_8472: that's good to know (about DHT growth).
[23:03:43] <The_8472> there we go: http://torrentfreak.com/%e2%80%9dchild-pornography-is-great%e2%80%9d-anti-pirates-say-100429/
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[23:05:09] <The_8472> klapaucjusz, yeah. i've been sampling throughput for a while now. normally i have to take down the instance for debugging. but i managed without disrupting it longer than a few seconds for several months now and the weekly variation is now more significant than the week-to-week one.
[23:06:16] <The_8472> about 14k P/s peak during weekends, around 8k lows during week days.
[23:07:46] <klapaucjusz> That's kpps?  Thousands of packets per second?
[23:12:18] <The_8472> yes
[23:12:33] <The_8472> you know... multi-node setup
[23:13:07] <klapaucjusz> That's a lot.
[23:13:36] <The_8472> aww crap. that's still the version with 32bit counters and they overflowed :/
[23:13:56] <The_8472> can't give you long-term stats
[23:14:52] <The_8472> it's 25 ipv4 and 32 ipv6 nodes.
[23:15:15] <The_8472> and somewhere between 2-4k P/s are created by active queries
[23:16:14] <The_8472> so let's say 10k P/s incoming queries, peak over 57 nodes. 175 P/s.
[23:17:09] <klapaucjusz> So what's the load *of a single node* when it stabilises?
[23:17:51] <The_8472> that would be those 175 P/s
[23:18:28] <The_8472> that is for a very active node that works hard to make itself known
[23:18:36] <The_8472> and has very little down time
[23:19:17] <klapaucjusz> Hmm.
[23:19:50] <klapaucjusz> I could manage that on a pocket calculator.
[23:20:03] <The_8472> hehe
[23:20:05] <klapaucjusz> (Highly optimised pocket calculator.)
[23:20:14] <klapaucjusz> Ok, I was wrong.
[23:21:09] <The_8472> oh, and i'm counting TX/RX aggreagate. so 87 P/s in.
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