June 14, 2010 
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June 14, 2010 NOTICE: This channel is no longer actively logged.
[00:42:02] *** PrototypeX29A has quit IRC[01:01:22] *** Kitsoran has joined #bittorrent[01:36:25] *** `rafi1_ has joined #bittorrent[01:39:17] *** `rafi_ has quit IRC[02:14:51] *** ari-_-e has joined #bittorrent[02:16:03] <ari-_-e> if a user isn't downloading an entire torrent, is the "completed" event the only way that the tracker is notified of this?[02:16:07] *** Andrius has quit IRC[02:16:17] <ari-_-e> or does the "left" amount also indicate that?[02:22:21] <TheSHAD0W> It's not specified... My client gives "downloaded=" the total downloaded and "left=" 0.[02:22:38] <ari-_-e> ack[02:22:52] <ari-_-e> ambiguous specs ftw[02:22:52] <TheSHAD0W> Actually, it specifies the amount waiting to download.[02:23:03] <TheSHAD0W> Well...[02:23:29] <TheSHAD0W> Prior to the adoption of utorrent it was thought by the bittorrent admins that single-file downloading was harmful, so it was never taken account of.[02:23:49] <The_8472> left=0 i usually a good sign, but the completed-event is what provides the canonical state. since selective downloading may influence the other parameters[02:23:50] <TheSHAD0W> Then we rebels, Azureus and BitTornado, implemented it...[02:24:14] <TheSHAD0W> The_8472: The problem with that is, the tracker may miss the completed event.[02:24:15] <ari-_-e> hmm...[02:24:29] <ari-_-e> TheSHAD0W: exactly, I think that may be what happened[02:24:34] <ari-_-e> since it only gets sent once...[02:24:36] <The_8472> TheSHAD0W, well... the client should notice that[02:24:36] <TheSHAD0W> Especially when a torrent first starts seeding itself...[02:24:41] <TheSHAD0W> Hehe.[02:24:52] <ari-_-e> that or the tracker just sucks[02:24:55] <TheSHAD0W> Mine doesn't, nor does the original python client.[02:24:56] <ari-_-e> who knows[02:25:02] <The_8472> we do, i think[02:25:05] <The_8472> not sure though[02:25:14] <TheSHAD0W> The original (and my) tracker codebase uses left=0 to signal a seed.[02:25:28] <ari-_-e> ok[02:25:34] <TheSHAD0W> I altered mine so the client can send left=xxx and the tracker will reset the seed status.[02:26:02] <ari-_-e> makes sense, so they can download more if they want[02:37:00] *** jnpplf has quit IRC[03:17:03] *** init0 has quit IRC[03:18:23] *** init0 has joined #bittorrent[04:03:11] *** The_8472 has quit IRC[04:07:35] *** The_8472 has joined #bittorrent[04:52:04] *** TheSHAD0W has quit IRC[04:56:37] *** TheSHAD0W has joined #bittorrent[05:05:04] *** edigaryev has joined #bittorrent[05:46:42] *** chelz has joined #bittorrent[06:05:31] 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