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[11:52:33] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[11:58:49] <PrototypeX29A> can magnet links contain the same information as torrent files, contain they merely a link to a torrent file?
[12:05:34] <PrototypeX29A> i wan't to know whether it is doable to use content hashes to address files in a torrent network
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[12:51:32] <DWKnight> the btih magnet links point at the .torrent files basically
[12:51:52] <DWKnight> there's typically WAY too much information in a torrent file to be contained in a magnet directly
[12:57:43] <PrototypeX29A> basically?
[12:58:00] <PrototypeX29A> so you first retrieve the torrent file and then need a tracker anyway?
[13:02:53] <DWKnight> most of the time, yes
[13:03:18] <DWKnight> but the torrents obtained in this manner can't be private flagged anyway, so DHT and peer exchange will work
[13:04:09] <DWKnight> and you don't actually NEED a tracker to get going
[13:04:40] <PrototypeX29A> only if it is private (and the client cares for the private flag)
[13:04:57] <DWKnight> no
[13:05:07] <DWKnight> private flagged torrents can't be exchanged via magnets
[13:05:33] <PrototypeX29A> yes, thats why you then need a tracker?
[13:06:31] <DWKnight> you need to exchange the .torrent files in more traditional methods for private flagged torrents, and they MUST contain a tracker in order to work
[13:06:49] <PrototypeX29A> but ok, back to the magnets. i guess each upload of a file leads to another magnet link, as there are different torrent files (because of redundancy in the text based format)
[13:07:50] <DWKnight> torrents can reference multiple files at the same time
[13:09:42] <PrototypeX29A> with archives?
[13:10:09] <DWKnight> with multi-file torrents
[13:11:05] <PrototypeX29A> gee it's starting to get complicated :), maybe i should fall back to e2dk addressing :)
[13:11:33] <DWKnight> multi-file torrents have been around for over 7 years
[13:11:47] <DWKnight> btih magnets, maybe 3
[13:15:45] <PrototypeX29A> yes, but i am just looking for away to adress content in a widely used manner
[13:17:11] <DWKnight> honestly, good luck finding a unified method that won't trip over itself when it crosses network boundaries
[13:17:30] <DWKnight> magnets actually have conflicts within themselves because btih magnets came after the more general magnets
[13:19:33] <PrototypeX29A> i am not looking for a unified method, i just don't want to invent "yet another method"
[13:19:56] <PrototypeX29A> i don't care for magnet links very much, but i don't think a simple torrent file does the job
[13:20:54] <PrototypeX29A> so i was thinking of going with e2dk-links, because they seem well defined and lead to unique content hashs
[13:21:15] <PrototypeX29A> but i have read that bittorrent is the most used protocol
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[16:46:28] <TheSHAD0W> http://techfreqnews.com/2010/06/13/torrentfreak-to-buy-pirate-bay-for-11-million-2/
[16:49:02] <charles> wha....?
[16:49:42] <charles> they're about two and a half months late with that
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[18:44:15] <PrototypeX29A> .
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