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[00:02:48] <DWKnight> describes the what of a p2p network?[00:03:39] <The_8472> churn is the arrival and departure rate of nodes[00:08:31] *** medecau has quit IRC[00:28:25] <K`Tetch> churn is what you make butter in[00:32:43] <DeHackEd> but chuck norris does not churn butter[00:33:20] <K`Tetch> no, milk goes sour just looking at his face[00:40:02] <The_8472> "ort.[00:40:04] <The_8472> In its broadest sense, churn rate is a measure of the number of individuals or items moving into or out of a collection over a specific period of time."[00:40:41] <The_8472> and you can find the term in various papers related to p2p networks[01:46:32] *** nameless` has quit IRC[01:52:37] *** BentMyWookie has quit IRC[01:56:57] *** BentMyWookie has joined #bittorrent[02:07:31] *** goussx has quit IRC[02:10:05] *** goussx has joined #bittorrent[02:11:39] *** K`Tetch has quit IRC[02:11:45] *** K`Tetch has joined #bittorrent[02:11:45] *** K`Tetch has joined #bittorrent[03:15:16] *** init0 has quit 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<e-manuel> hi[15:08:03] <init0> hi[15:18:22] *** e-manuel has quit IRC[15:25:08] *** ygrek has quit IRC[16:02:08] *** jecdiniz has joined #bittorrent[16:04:38] *** jecdiniz has quit IRC[16:18:30] *** [diablo] has joined #bittorrent[16:18:36] *** [diablo] has joined #bittorrent[17:30:22] *** joebobjoe has joined #bittorrent[17:31:33] <joebobjoe> can ISP's throttle encrypted bt traffic?[17:32:36] <Andrius> yes[17:33:55] <joebobjoe> what about if i BT using VPN?[17:48:25] <The_8472> then they can't distinguish BT from any other heavy data transfer over a single connection[17:52:57] *** goussx has joined #bittorrent[17:57:16] *** goussx has quit IRC[18:09:24] *** joebobjoe has quit IRC[18:18:17] *** e-manuel has joined #bittorrent[18:19:26] *** joebobjoe has joined #bittorrent[18:33:34] *** goussx has joined #bittorrent[18:33:34] *** goussx has joined #bittorrent[18:35:07] *** Kitsoran has quit IRC[18:35:07] *** NoodleDragon has joined #bittorrent[18:35:09] *** NoodleDragon is now known as Kitsoran[18:46:05] *** e-manuel has quit IRC[18:47:23] *** ajaya has joined #bittorrent[18:50:02] *** yano has joined #bittorrent[18:51:54] *** K`Tetch_ has quit IRC[18:51:56] *** edigaryev has quit IRC[18:52:32] *** K`Tetch has joined #bittorrent[19:39:32] <K`Tetch> http://torrentfreak.com/judges-liken-p2p-to-the-ancient-practice-of-lending-books-100608/[19:40:21] *** ygrek has joined #bittorrent[19:41:19] <The_8472> wow[19:41:39] <The_8472> the mfiaa must be raging right now[19:41:53] <K`Tetch> !VIVA ESPANA![19:46:17] <yano> http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/06/08/159217/RIAA-Says-LimeWire-Owes-15-Trillion[19:47:28] <K`Tetch> no it doesn't[19:47:34] <burris> lol[19:47:43] <K`Tetch> it says 200M downloads of limewire, and wants damages for each[19:50:35] <yano> heh, i didn't make the title over at slashdot[19:51:33] <K`Tetch> thats why i stay FAR away from it[19:53:13] <yano> you are right though the math doesn't add up FTA: 1,500,000,000,000 = 200,000,000 * 750. but really 200,000,000 * 750 = 150,000,000,000[19:53:39] <yano> looks like someone added an extra zero[19:58:25] <yano> or forgot one.[19:58:39] <The_8472> isn't 750$ the min. damages?[19:59:42] <yano> i think so[19:59:56] <K`Tetch> for willfull, yes[20:00:00] <K`Tetch> 250 if unintentional[20:00:02] <yano> unles they want billed $7500 per "damage" then their math would work out[20:00:10] <yano> s/billed/payed[20:00:23] <K`Tetch> or assuming 10 infringements per download[20:00:40] <burris> i hope the lawyers are working on gross percentage[20:12:31] *** joebobjoe has quit IRC[20:25:07] *** burris has quit IRC[20:32:53] *** joebobjoe has joined #bittorrent[20:32:59] *** joebobjoe has quit IRC[20:57:39] *** ProperN[out] has joined #bittorrent[20:57:40] *** ProperN[out] has joined #bittorrent[20:57:54] *** ProperNoun has quit IRC[20:58:26] *** ProperN[out] is now known as ProperNoun[21:07:28] *** ajaya has quit IRC[21:57:58] *** burris has joined #bittorrent[22:32:24] *** ajaya has joined 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