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[00:02:48] <DWKnight> describes the what of a p2p network?
[00:03:39] <The_8472> churn is the arrival and departure rate of nodes
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[00:28:25] <K`Tetch> churn is what you make butter in
[00:32:43] <DeHackEd> but chuck norris does not churn butter
[00:33:20] <K`Tetch> no, milk goes sour just looking at his face
[00:40:02] <The_8472> "ort.
[00:40:04] <The_8472> In its broadest sense, churn rate is a measure of the number of individuals or items moving into or out of a collection over a specific period of time."
[00:40:41] <The_8472> and you can find the term in various papers related to p2p networks
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[09:07:14] <joebobjoe> my friend tried to make a bt file using vuze, i could connect to them using openbittorrent but could not get progress details or recieve transfer
[09:07:20] <joebobjoe> can anyone assist
[09:07:22] <joebobjoe> ?
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[14:37:55] <e-manuel> hi
[15:08:03] <init0> hi
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[17:31:33] <joebobjoe> can ISP's throttle encrypted bt traffic?
[17:32:36] <Andrius> yes
[17:33:55] <joebobjoe> what about if i BT using VPN?
[17:48:25] <The_8472> then they can't distinguish BT from any other heavy data transfer over a single connection
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[19:39:32] <K`Tetch> http://torrentfreak.com/judges-liken-p2p-to-the-ancient-practice-of-lending-books-100608/
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[19:41:19] <The_8472> wow
[19:41:39] <The_8472> the mfiaa must be raging right now
[19:41:53] <K`Tetch> !VIVA ESPANA!
[19:46:17] <yano> http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/06/08/159217/RIAA-Says-LimeWire-Owes-15-Trillion
[19:47:28] <K`Tetch> no it doesn't
[19:47:34] <burris> lol
[19:47:43] <K`Tetch> it says 200M downloads of limewire, and wants damages for each
[19:50:35] <yano> heh, i didn't make the title over at slashdot
[19:51:33] <K`Tetch> thats why i stay FAR away from it
[19:53:13] <yano> you are right though the math doesn't add up FTA: 1,500,000,000,000 = 200,000,000 * 750. but really 200,000,000 * 750 = 150,000,000,000
[19:53:39] <yano> looks like someone added an extra zero
[19:58:25] <yano> or forgot one.
[19:58:39] <The_8472> isn't 750$ the min. damages?
[19:59:42] <yano> i think so
[19:59:56] <K`Tetch> for willfull, yes
[20:00:00] <K`Tetch> 250 if unintentional
[20:00:02] <yano> unles they want billed $7500 per "damage" then their math would work out
[20:00:10] <yano> s/billed/payed
[20:00:23] <K`Tetch> or assuming 10 infringements per download
[20:00:40] <burris> i hope the lawyers are working on gross percentage
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