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[05:40:17] <devslash> is it possible in my html to bind the selected value of a dropdown to a property thats defined in the data service which inject into my component/
[05:40:36] <devslash> im trying to do it like this: <mat-select placeholder='Audio Format' name="audioformat" [(ngModel)]="this.dataService.currentAudioFormat" [disabled]="isSubmitted">
[05:41:07] <devslash> the ngmodel binding doesnt work event though im injecting and using this data service in my component
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[08:28:44] <icebox> hey folks
[08:28:56] <trampi> morning!
[08:29:32] <trampi> devslash: have you solved your problem? It should work.
[08:31:37] <CssNoob> icebox
[08:33:28] <CssNoob> https://pastebin.com/nJgvwdwi
[08:33:41] <CssNoob> Why my http.post isn't working?
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[08:37:07] <icebox> concat diagrams: https://twitter.com/Michael_Hladky/status/1194817412920741888
[08:39:03] <CssNoob> What do you mean? icebox
[08:39:29] <trampi> CssNoob: what exactly isn't working?
[08:39:34] <icebox> CssNoob: about what?
[08:39:41] <CssNoob> https://pastebin.com/nJgvwdwi
[08:39:55] <icebox> ah
[08:39:59] <CssNoob> that one, I got cors error but in my backend
[08:40:07] <CssNoob> I have setup already my cors
[08:40:22] <icebox> CssNoob: it doesn't work because it is a text ;), not code
[08:40:36] <icebox> pastebin?
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[08:40:55] <CssNoob> I just put it there so you can see it https://pastebin.com/nJgvwdwi
[08:41:55] <icebox> please, create a mvce reproducing your issue, explain us the details and finally wait for an answer... I know you know the "rules" ;)
[08:41:57] <trampi> CssNoob: what exactly isn't working? Just pasting code and saying "it isn't working" is not enough to get me helping you
[08:42:12] <trampi> ^ what icebox says
[08:42:36] <CssNoob> When I try to use http.post from my queryparams
[08:42:45] <CssNoob> I got this error
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[08:42:58] <trampi> morning Pyrrhus666!
[08:43:49] <CssNoob> "Http failure response for http://localhost:3000/api/v2/users/verify/:token: 0 Unknown Error"
[08:44:24] <CssNoob> After register , sent to email . click the link
[08:44:43] <CssNoob> then verify the token ,, then sent a http.post to verify
[08:45:12] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs trampi
[08:45:19] <devslash> hi
[08:45:36] <CssNoob> has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource.
[08:45:44] <CssNoob> Pyrrhus666
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[08:46:53] <Pyrrhus666> CssNoob, https://enable-cors.org/
[08:47:08] <Pyrrhus666> morning devslash
[08:47:19] <CssNoob> i did already put cors on my backend
[08:47:53] <CssNoob> res.header
[08:48:07] <devslash> I use a data service which I inject into my component. Whats a good general rule for properties that are part of the component vs defined in the data service?
[08:48:48] <Pyrrhus666> CssNoob, try again, I guess ? the error ispretty clear
[08:50:05] <CssNoob> Pyrrhus666 is my http.post, right?
[08:50:06] <CssNoob> https://pastebin.com/nJgvwdwi
[08:51:08] <Pyrrhus666> yes ?
[08:51:26] <Pyrrhus666> (completely unrelated to the reported error btw)
[08:51:48] <CssNoob> so the problem is the cors , thing?
[08:51:56] <Pyrrhus666> yes, as the error says.
[08:52:51] <trampi> CssNoob: check the network inspector, I assuem that your request is sent to /api/v2/users/verify/:token instead of /api/v2/users/verify/REAL_VALUE_OF_TOKEN_HERE
[08:52:57] <trampi> *assume
[08:53:58] <Pyrrhus666> trampi, that should not give a course error on the verify resource though ? maybe an invalid token error
[08:54:22] <Pyrrhus666> * cors error. need more coffee
[08:54:35] <trampi> Yes, solving CORS is of course still required.
[08:54:58] <anddam> howdy
[08:55:04] <Pyrrhus666> morning anddam
[08:55:05] <trampi> Solving CORS if "of cors" still required. (need more coffee too, bwah)
[08:55:28] <Pyrrhus666> devslash, I'm not sure what you are asking ?
[08:56:46] <SargoDarya> Morning folks o/
[08:56:51] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya
[08:56:53] * SargoDarya throws a round of coffee through the channel
[08:56:58] <trampi> weeeeee
[08:57:08] <Pyrrhus666> woohoo :)
[08:57:10] <trampi> good morning!
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[09:09:41] <anddam> SargoDarya: just got mine, thanks
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[09:10:25] <SargoDarya> How's it going? Everyone looking forward to the weekend?
[09:10:29] <anddam> how many coffees a day are you guys flying around?
[09:11:16] <trampi> two to three here
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[09:11:19] <SargoDarya> I usually land around 6
[09:11:26] <SargoDarya> Super unhealthy though
[09:11:53] <anddam> SargoDarya: yesterday I got a strict deadline that I think I'm gonna miss, next 3 weeks will be kinda stressful
[09:11:56] <anddam> I love being alive
[09:11:59] <trampi> I successfully substituted my coffee addiction with a green/black tea addiction once. *ba-dum tss*
[09:12:35] <anddam> SargoDarya: I try to keep it at four cups but oftentimes I slip into six
[09:12:51] <anddam> trampi: or cookies
[09:14:05] <SargoDarya> anddam: Especially mornings I realise I just don't function properly without coffee.
[09:14:46] <trampi> I also drank around six cups of coffee. But I got stomach problems and really bad headaches when not drinking coffee, which was the signal for me to rethink my coffee consumption levels
[09:15:03] <SargoDarya> Probably should do the same.
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[09:16:27] <pupskuchen> yo
[09:21:02] <Pyrrhus666> anddam, 8-ish
[09:21:09] <Pyrrhus666> morning pupskuchen
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[09:24:39] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666, it's not a contest xD
[09:25:08] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, I know. it is what it is. to compensate I don't drink coffee in the evening ;)
[09:25:16] <SargoDarya> anddam: Strict deadline in what sense?
[09:25:35] <SargoDarya> Did you communicate already that it doesn't seem realistic to you?
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[09:33:29] <pupskuchen> SargoDarya: did you get tickets?
[09:33:46] <SargoDarya> pupskuchen For Tenacious D or Die Ärzte?
[09:33:52] <pupskuchen> DÄ
[09:34:00] <SargoDarya> Both: Yes.
[09:34:17] <SargoDarya> 2 in Munich.
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[09:34:47] <Elarcis> yesterday was co-ownership general assembly
[09:34:50] <Elarcis> what a shit show
[09:35:21] <Elarcis> We were around 18 co-owners, and THREE of them were enough to annoy me to hell.
[09:35:36] <SargoDarya> Elarcis: Usually one person is enough already.
[09:36:05] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, welcome to the wonderful world of home ownership ;)
[09:36:20] <pupskuchen> SargoDarya: tickets for both bands in munich or tickets for both munich concerts of DÄ? :D
[09:36:28] <Pyrrhus666> (I have to deal with 92 co-owners. at least 40 are annoying as fuck)
[09:37:10] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, SargoDarya: it is unbelievable how some people just assumed that being an owner just means you don’t have any rent to pay
[09:37:41] <SargoDarya> pupskuchen: 2 tickets for both bands in Munich.
[09:38:05] <pupskuchen> nice
[09:38:41] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, yeah, for a lot of people it's all about the money
[09:38:46] <Elarcis> So half the evening was them complaining that they don’t like paying (duh), that they think local taxes are too high, their mortgage is too high, the price of life is too high, that everbody out there is after their money, that they feel they don’t have to pay for something “the architect” is responsible for (no)
[09:39:32] <anddam> SargoDarya: that it is too soon
[09:39:49] <anddam> Pyrrhus666: that's high-stake
[09:39:57] <Elarcis> And when they realised no one here could help them pay lower taxes/lower mortgages, they started complaining that “anyway the neighborhood is shit there is no store you have to go to the city for everything” (false as well, plus The City™ is literally 10 minutes of bus away)
[09:40:54] <Pyrrhus666> the distance to the city is too damn high
[09:41:01] <Elarcis> Also some where voting for stuff, asking for what they voted (even though we had been talking about it for 15 mintes) then say “oh no, I’m against that!” WELL WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR
[09:41:10] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, everything is too damn high
[09:41:19] <Pyrrhus666> yup. recognisable
[09:41:29] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, also one threatened to sell her appartment, as a mean of pressure of some sort (???)
[09:41:44] <Pyrrhus666> AHAHAHA ! GO AHEAD BITCH !
[09:42:12] <SargoDarya> The miracles of home ownership.
[09:42:46] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, some declared that “if they had told me that before I’d never have become an owner!” you mean you became an owner without being told that you’re part responsible for what the co-ownership does and buy, that as a co-owner you have a say and a financial responsibility of the whole?
[09:42:53] <Pyrrhus666> luckily those meetings are only twice a year.
[09:43:11] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, only once is mandatory here in France
[09:43:22] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, djeez. people are stupid _and_ assholes until proven otherwise
[09:43:27] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, lucky you !
[09:44:46] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, here it was because there are some legionella in the hot water pipes because of some valves being of the wrong type and causing large temperature differences, and because of some very shady shit our insurance can’t cover it _for now_.
[09:45:13] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, awesome... /s
[09:45:33] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, long story short, someone changed those valves so they’re not the original ones, and NOBODY has any proof whatsoever of who did this, so we can’t proove that it’s been changed as a part of the damage insurance
[09:47:18] <Pyrrhus666> that sucks
[09:47:42] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, there are some REALLY strong suspicions that the company that did that is the company that did everything else, including maintenance and repair of other systems, but no trace of _this_ in their records — so they say — and the previous property company didn’t properly manage its paperwork regarding that
[09:48:53] <Elarcis> So there are good chances that should we go legal (which we agreed to do) a fault would be proven outside of the co-ownership and compensation be obtained, but for now we have to pay for the sanitary emergency we find oulseves in
[09:49:22] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, we have out problems with the managing company, but nowhere near this kind of shit.
[09:49:44] <Elarcis> And I understand that people be upset, that we are not responsible for that (who could have told back then that those valve were changed, when NOTHING said that they were at all?)
[09:49:55] <icebox> Elarcis: hey ;)
[09:50:11] <CssNoob> I did setup my cors already, still error
[09:50:13] <CssNoob> oh man
[09:50:16] <SargoDarya> Morning icebox
[09:50:26] <SargoDarya> CssNoob: What's the exact error and how did you setup cors?
[09:50:33] <CssNoob> app.use(
[09:50:33] <CssNoob> cors({
[09:50:33] <CssNoob> origin: "*",
[09:50:33] <CssNoob> exposedHeaders: [
[09:50:33] <CssNoob> "Content-Range",
[09:50:33] <CssNoob> "X-Content-Range",
[09:50:34] <Pyrrhus666> CssNoob, if you get that error, cors is not setup corretly. period
[09:50:37] <CssNoob> "Content-Disposition",
[09:50:39] <CssNoob> "Content-Error"
[09:50:41] <CssNoob> ],
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[09:50:43] <CssNoob> credentials: true
[09:50:44] <Elarcis> CssNoob, NO PASTE ON IRC FUCKING HELL
[09:50:45] <CssNoob> })
[09:50:47] <CssNoob> );
[09:50:49] <CssNoob> oh boy
[09:50:49] * Pyrrhus666 slaps CssNoob around with a wet trout
[09:50:52] <CssNoob> sorry
[09:50:53] <SargoDarya> lulz.
[09:51:10] <SargoDarya> I think just using cors() is enough
[09:52:25] <Elarcis> CssNoob, what backend tech is that? .NET ? Express?
[09:53:05] <CssNoob> express. When I comment cors .. and logging in ..it will cause error
[09:53:18] <CssNoob> when I try to enable cors ... I can logged in
[09:53:31] <CssNoob> but from my verify/:token queryparams
[09:53:44] <CssNoob> it will cause an error
[09:54:00] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, but really, no need to shit on the _new_ managing company, no need to just complain all evening for stuff the company isn’t responsible for and just annoy the shit out of everyone present just because you became an owner and didn’t have any spare money in your budget so now you are super tight. Being owner of your own appartment
[09:54:00] <Elarcis> isn’t a business, it’s an expensive investment with long term costs and it’s not less expensive than being a tenant, for fuck’s sake.
[09:54:00] <CssNoob> so my cors is working ...
[09:54:30] <CssNoob> my cors is just working fine.
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[09:54:48] <Elarcis> CssNoob, never worked with express, but is there some kind of hirerachy of these settings? maybe the verify/ route is outside of the zone where your cors() call applies?
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[09:55:28] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, well, in reality it often _is_ less expensive. just not by the wide margin between rent and mortgage ;)
[09:55:29] <CssNoob> I can log in when enabling cors ..
[09:55:45] <CssNoob> but when disabled .. I can't log in.. so cors is working
[09:55:53] <Pyrrhus666> CssNoob, if you get that error cors is _not_ working fine
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[09:56:26] <CssNoob> but why it don't cause an error from my http.post log in?
[09:56:48] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, it is less expensive on the very long term because you virtually pay off a mortgage that you borrowed to yourself across time, so you virtually only have the interests that leave your wallet in the end
[09:57:28] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, but really tenants have way less to worry about, and it seems many owners think that being an owner is the same amount of responsibilities than being a tenant
[09:57:34] <Paradisee> morning folks
[09:57:36] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, here it is even less expensive just comparing straigt costs.
[09:57:53] <Pyrrhus666> (which is why I bought the place)
[09:57:58] <Pyrrhus666> morning Paradisee
[09:59:36] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, then again, renting in urban areas here is relatively expensive and rents increase by 4% every year (for my category of appt)
[10:00:03] <Pyrrhus666> and with mortgage rates being insanely low, the divide grows
[10:01:21] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, yup
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[10:02:19] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, pretty much the same here, terrain value is constantly raising in my neighborhood, which motivated my investment
[10:02:29] <icebox> SargoDarya: hey
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[10:02:39] <SargoDarya> Yo icebox, how's it going over at yours?
[10:02:48] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, I just pay around 55 € of interests on my mortgage each month
[10:02:55] <icebox> SargoDarya: relocating in new offices ;)
[10:03:03] <SargoDarya> Oh, neato. Bigger ones?
[10:03:05] <Elarcis> Hello icebox :D
[10:03:35] <Elarcis> CssNoob, no idea. Does CORS apply to POST requests?
[10:04:28] <Elarcis> It seems so.
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[10:09:02] <anddam> Pyrrhus666: that trout has possibly legionella
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[10:11:19] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, what, you have a toy mortgage ? ;)
[10:11:30] <Pyrrhus666> anddam, nah, freshly caught
[10:12:51] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, nah, only the _interests_ here. Actually paying 600 €/month, but the majority of it is virtually money I owe to myself :P
[10:13:55] <Pyrrhus666> virtual money is the best kind, if owed ;)
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[10:18:14] <CssNoob> hmmm
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[10:22:41] <Pyrrhus666> virtual money is the best k/r/hmmind, if owed ;)
[10:22:47] <Pyrrhus666> whoops
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[10:25:30] <ray02> hello hello
[10:25:33] <ray02> morning folks
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[10:30:53] <icebox> ray02: hey
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[10:34:05] <pupskuchen> I'm tired
[10:34:07] <pupskuchen> let me sleep
[10:34:48] <ray02> how is going the morning?
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[10:34:59] <ray02> i'm super happy
[10:36:09] <SargoDarya> Great to hear that ray02 :)
[10:37:19] <storkme> why so happy
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[10:41:29] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
[10:41:34] <SargoDarya> Meanwhile I'm onto performance improvements :D
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[10:52:12] <Pyrrhus666> meanwhile I'm lost in a maze of little configurations, all alike
[10:52:37] <ray02> storkme: the washing was fixed and i can make laundry :D
[10:52:50] <storkme> nice
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[10:53:32] <ray02> and than in this weeks i'm makeing pair programming with a colleague and also this is super stimulating
[10:53:51] <ray02> *making
[10:55:57] <ray02> is it starting well your last day of week ?
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[10:57:37] <storkme> i am the only one around in my team today, so it's going to be a very quiet day i think
[10:58:45] <ray02> uh uh is nice be in solitary mode for a while no?
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[10:59:53] <storkme> a bit too lonely :(
[10:59:58] <stennowork> morning
[11:00:00] <stennowork> aw
[11:00:05] <stennowork> but you have us on IRC!
[11:00:16] <storkme> :)
[11:01:09] <ray02> i was going to say the same thing!
[11:02:38] <storkme> so maybe i will take the opportunity to sneakily deal with some tech debt :>
[11:05:50] <ray02> storkme: on what you would like to push you?
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[11:10:46] <SargoDarya> "but you have us on IRC!" consoles me for when you take an offer somewhere else stennowork xD
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[11:11:23] <stennowork> i am sorry for testing your patience, SargoDarya
[11:13:21] <SargoDarya> stennowork I did 3D modelling and rendering for quite a while, I think I'm patient xD
[11:13:40] <ray02> ahah
[11:13:48] <stennowork> ^_^"
[11:13:56] <stennowork> what did you use, blender? 3ds max?
[11:13:57] <SargoDarya> Nothing like letting a scene render for a week straight only to figure out you fucked something up xD
[11:14:22] <stennowork> i started playing around with 3ds max like a decade ago or so
[11:14:36] <stennowork> switched to blender, but somehow couldn't get used to all the shortcuts :D
[11:14:43] <SargoDarya> Started with Blender, switched to 3DS Max 5 for a year and switched to Blender again.
[11:15:12] <ray02> i saw that blender now has a new sexy interface
[11:15:12] <stennowork> did you just do the modelling/rendering or did you also used it in a 3d graphics engine?
[11:15:35] <SargoDarya> Only modelling/rendering. I tried doing Blender > UE4 though.
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[11:15:39] <stennowork> ISTR an engine called 'ogre 3d' or so
[11:15:45] <stennowork> aah
[11:15:48] <SargoDarya> Oh boy.
[11:15:50] <stennowork> yeah this was before unity
[11:15:56] <SargoDarya> Yeah. I gave Ogre3D a try as well.
[11:16:24] <stennowork> this was all a very long time ago and the details are hazy
[11:16:24] <SargoDarya> I wasn't too happy with my experience.
[11:16:26] <stennowork> fair
[11:17:37] <storkme> maybe i will upgrade to angular 8 on one of our projects, ray02
[11:18:35] <ray02> i saw that there are a lot of automation now for doing that
[11:19:07] <stennowork> i assume the go-to 3d engine is indeed unity now
[11:19:11] <ray02> storkme:
[11:19:57] <jlebrech> godot
[11:20:10] <stennowork> i also did some lowlevel opengl stuff following NeHes tutorials (i think we talked about this before)
[11:20:21] <storkme> i would be amazed if it works though, ray02 :D
[11:20:24] <jlebrech> i remember nehe
[11:20:49] <jlebrech> opengl es2 is about 99% compatible with nehe
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[11:21:18] <ray02> storkme: what is the starting version.
[11:21:19] <ray02> ?
[11:21:38] <SargoDarya> I gave Godot also a try, never got around Godot Script.
[11:21:45] <SargoDarya> Or however it's called.
[11:21:52] <jlebrech> it's good for prototyping
[11:21:57] <mursu> Gdscript
[11:22:29] <SargoDarya> Almost.
[11:22:46] <jlebrech> prototype soemthing fir then, chase the pointers and memory leaks separately when you turn the proto into a more commercial game
[11:23:07] <ray02> i have an action in the reducer that is making a lot of things
[11:23:13] <mursu> are you implying that you can't make commercial games with Godot?
[11:23:21] <SargoDarya> Absolutely not.
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[11:23:24] <ray02> what could be a good idea to have it more clear ?
[11:23:27] <mursu> I doubt anyone is making AAA games with it though
[11:23:54] <storkme> ah actually I just chedked and we're already on angular 8.2.6, so it'll just be a minor version upgrade
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[11:28:02] <haiiokarin> can you help me guys with this problem, i think that it has to do with lifecycle or maybe order of functions in my project. After you select text with mouse, selected text got assigned class. And after you try to zoom / unzoom on button up there selection is removed. You have any idea why? https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-pbd9ve
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[11:33:47] <Pyrrhus666> still event.path errors
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[11:36:00] <anddam> is there anything bad in using @import directive in a component style sheet?
[11:36:32] <storkme> not inherently
[11:37:00] <anddam> good, because It Works For Me™
[11:37:10] <anddam> oh """Sass removes the performance hit because the @import statements are removed from your Sass code when it compiles to CSS."""
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[11:38:33] <haiiokarin> ah sorry one sec
[11:38:35] <haiiokarin> to fix that
[11:38:36] <ray02> anddam: yes that is the magic of preprocessor
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[11:40:11] <haiiokarin> Pyrrhus666: now should work - https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-pbd9ve
[11:41:03] <Pyrrhus666> QuotaExceededError: The quota has been exceeded.
[11:41:08] <Pyrrhus666> and a blank page
[11:41:12] <Elarcis> anddam, @import just makes more HTTP requests, Sass squashes everything
[11:41:22] <Elarcis> anddam, @import can have its uses, but nowadays not many
[11:41:37] <haiiokarin> damn what is that
[11:41:47] <Elarcis> (yes, “sass squash” was an intended pun)
[11:41:59] <Pyrrhus666> also with http/2 and quic, parallel requests might even be a benefit
[11:42:10] <Pyrrhus666> haiiokarin, no idea. that's what I get
[11:42:37] <haiiokarin> Pyrrhus666: weird, it works both on chrome and firefox for me
[11:42:38] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, are grouped requests still a thing?
[11:42:40] <haiiokarin> hmm
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[11:42:57] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, dunno, that's a browser thing I guess
[11:43:25] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, I thought it also needed server configuration, because it means the connection has to be kept open for all related requests.
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[11:43:58] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, that's with http/1.1.
[11:44:09] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, o
[11:44:14] <Elarcis> o ok
[11:45:00] <Pyrrhus666> with http/2 en quic more things are done on the protocol level, http/1.1 only had pipelining to be more eficient.
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[11:47:02] <stennowork> but quic is still not a replacement for full duplex like websocket
[11:47:23] <Pyrrhus666> no, and it isn't meant to be
[11:47:33] <Pyrrhus666> (afaik)
[11:47:47] <stennowork> yep
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[12:27:39] <haiiokarin> Pyrrhus666: see if it works now? https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-831v52
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[12:29:00] <Pyrrhus666> haiiokarin, seems to work, but I can't make the selected text disappear ?
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[12:34:44] <haiiokarin> Pyrrhus666: yup forget that for now, but why after zoom selected text loses it's class?
[12:34:52] <haiiokarin> i think that it renders for each zoom / unzoom
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[12:36:31] <Pyrrhus666> that seems to be the case
[12:36:46] <haiiokarin> yup but can't figure it out how should i restructure my code
[12:38:07] <haiiokarin> yeah it definitely renders them again
[12:40:23] <haiiokarin> maybe my lifecycle hook is not doing it properly, is there something like for each render to do this instead of AfterViewInit
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[12:40:30] <Pyrrhus666> since the zoom property is passed to the pdf-viewer component, I'm not sure you can prevent the re-render. it's probably even needed to even be able to zoom
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[12:40:45] <Pyrrhus666> so you'll have to re-apply your selection after zooming, I guess
[12:40:46] <haiiokarin> yeah that should stay as that
[12:41:12] <haiiokarin> hmmm that's sounds complicated for now when i think about that :D
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[12:42:02] <Pyrrhus666> most likely. I have no idea how to reference a previous selection after it's lst
[12:42:04] <Pyrrhus666> *lost
[12:43:41] <haiiokarin> yeah neither do i
[12:43:44] <haiiokarin> at this moment :D
[12:44:34] <Pyrrhus666> seeing as there are no IDs in the DOM, you probably can't
[12:45:00] <Pyrrhus666> if it's not a major need, I'd skip it for now
[12:45:37] <haiiokarin> umm selected item does receieve id? i just hardcoded it as #1
[12:45:39] <haiiokarin> did you mean that?
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[13:04:43] <Pyrrhus666> no, because that's not a reference you can re-find after re-render. I meant the original DOM has no IDs, so you lose all reference to a selection when it's re-rendered
[13:05:18] <haiiokarin> yeah, that span that was previously selected gets completely lost
[13:05:21] <haiiokarin> i understand now
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[13:11:12] <haiiokarin> Pyrrhus666: You see how this find built-in function with this lib works fine after re-render.. not sure if i can find somehow how he does that - https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-831v52
[13:11:19] <haiiokarin> as we are doing something similar
[13:12:08] <Pyrrhus666> that just re-runs the search on a re-render
[13:12:20] <Pyrrhus666> that's not something you can do with a manual selection
[13:12:39] <haiiokarin> yeah
[13:12:42] <haiiokarin> you are right
[13:12:46] <haiiokarin> stupid of me
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[13:15:30] <haiiokarin> weeell this is hard
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[13:16:02] <Pyrrhus666> imho it's impossible
[13:17:03] <haiiokarin> i think it's nearly
[13:17:06] <haiiokarin> impossible
[13:17:59] <Pyrrhus666> that's kinda what I said, yes ;)
[13:18:30] <haiiokarin> for me surely impossible atm :D
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[13:20:43] <Pyrrhus666> suppose I select one instance of the word 'download' and then zoom. how would I ever know which instance of the word download was previously selected ? there's no reference...
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[13:26:19] <haiiokarin> Pyrrhus666: that's right, i can't find like any approach in my head right now of how this can be done
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[13:26:29] <haiiokarin> but i'm junior dev also
[13:26:40] <haiiokarin> not that much experienced
[13:26:49] <haiiokarin> to think also forward for this kind of problem
[13:27:14] <Pyrrhus666> if this is a requirement you must build, tell your boss to figure out how
[13:27:20] <haiiokarin> by that i mean completely understanding of language and what if gives me
[13:27:25] <haiiokarin> it*
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[13:56:05] <pupskuchen> have a nice weekend guys :D
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[13:57:04] <Pyrrhus666> you too pupskuchen
[13:57:12] <SargoDarya> Bye pupskuchen
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[13:59:34] <Elarcis> There’s a starman, waiting in the sky ♪♫
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[14:01:15] <Pyrrhus666> and he's driving a tesla ♪♫
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[14:05:08] <SargoDarya> It would be hilarious if at one day there's a spaceship going to mars and it fails because a fucking car crashes into it.
[14:05:36] <SargoDarya> Hope starman is insured.
[14:05:49] <Pyrrhus666> hehe, nice thoight :)
[14:06:18] <SargoDarya> Especially if it's completely forgotten about and in 500 years someone's just like "WTF is this shit?!"
[14:06:44] <Pyrrhus666> I see a star trek episode...
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[14:09:01] <storkme> a cautionary tale of hubris
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[14:10:58] <Elarcis> SargoDarya, “Hmm, New Houston, we’ve had a problem. Something crashed into the shield, offsetting our conics. The detectors registered, I quote, a ‘4 points loss on our driving license for refusing to give way to a car on our right’. — The hell is a ‘car’?!”
[14:11:35] <SargoDarya> Totally xD
[14:11:50] <ray02> ahah
[14:12:39] <Elarcis> SargoDarya, there’s a comic I love that shows at one time people looking for Mars, only finding Phobos and Deimos, but Mars not to be found.
[14:12:49] <Pyrrhus666> if it
[14:13:02] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, is it
[14:13:04] <Pyrrhus666> 's not a car, it's one of the 4000 starlink satellites
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[14:13:15] <Pyrrhus666> sorry, finger slipped on the '
[14:13:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, still not really reassured by those megaconstellations
[14:13:42] <Pyrrhus666> just more space junk that we'll have problems with later
[14:13:49] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, either for the Kessler syndrome or just adding junk in the night sky
[14:14:24] <stennowork> how can i make my colleague stop complaining about 'javascript doesnt throw errors but makes type coercion'
[14:14:33] <Pyrrhus666> hadn't heard of that, but it's a cool thought :)
[14:14:36] <stennowork> it starts to annoy me
[14:15:13] <Elarcis> stennowork, beat him with wet baseball bat coerced into a trout
[14:15:23] <stennowork> good idea
[14:15:57] <Elarcis> Tell him that he’s decades late and should use proper typing tools
[14:16:10] <SargoDarya> stennowork: ESLint
[14:16:26] <SargoDarya> That should help partially
[14:16:28] <stennowork> not sure if eslint hints at coercing problems
[14:16:28] <Elarcis> stennowork, TypeScript with allowJS and checkJS enabled.
[14:16:39] <stennowork> well we have typescript
[14:16:41] <stennowork> idk
[14:16:45] <stennowork> i don't care right now
[14:16:52] <SargoDarya> well alright then xD
[14:16:52] <stennowork> i will help him when i have some time
[14:16:55] <Elarcis> stennowork, you have typescript and still have type coercion issues?
[14:17:01] <stennowork> my colleague, yes
[14:17:02] <stennowork> not me
[14:17:13] <stennowork> i don't usually have those problems because i know what i am doing
[14:17:18] <Elarcis> yes, I meant “you” as in “your team”
[14:17:27] <stennowork> its a different project, but yes
[14:17:27] <ray02> here the project i'm working is full of :any
[14:17:34] <stennowork> lol
[14:17:42] <Elarcis> stennowork, they probably have an `any` value and are assuming weird stuff about it
[14:17:43] <ray02> very productive eh?
[14:17:55] <Elarcis> stennowork, if they don’t know what they’re doing, it might even not be type coercion
[14:18:03] <stennowork> true
[14:18:26] <icebox> off... have a nice weekend
[14:18:29] <stennowork> its the typical "i am from java and am learning something new and whenever something doesnt work like i think it does its the langauges fault"
[14:18:31] <stennowork> hf icebox
[14:18:33] <Elarcis> `any` should be thrown in a flaming pit of oblivion. All heil `unknown`!
[14:19:26] <Elarcis> stennowork, ah, good old “It’s SO EASY with other langage, why is it so COMPLICATED doing the same idiomatic things anywhere else?”
[14:19:44] <ray02> you too icebox
[14:20:02] <stennowork> yes
[14:20:10] <stennowork> its an issue i fell into myself yesterday
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[14:20:13] <ray02> Elarcis: classic
[14:20:17] <stennowork> regarding bash and the `if` command
[14:20:26] <Elarcis> stennowork, tbh one of my favourite langage features all-considered is C# delegates and method groups, like .Select(myAssembler.Transform) instead of .Select(o => myAssembler.Transform(o))
[14:20:39] <Elarcis> stennowork, it just works.
[14:20:41] <stennowork> that works in ajvascritp too
[14:20:48] <Elarcis> stennowork, not with `this`.
[14:21:00] <stennowork> check the :: operator :P
[14:21:04] <Elarcis> stennowork, or it does with `this` if you do weird shit with your function
[14:21:06] <Elarcis> stennowork, not standard
[14:21:09] <stennowork> (its stage-0
[14:21:15] <Elarcis> ^ it is
[14:21:48] <Elarcis> tbh my favorite langage feature all-considered is Rust’s memory safety.
[14:21:57] <stennowork> memory safety sounds good
[14:22:05] <stennowork> b> 'test'
[14:22:07] <stennowork> aw
[14:22:32] <Elarcis> including memory lifetimes and true strict typing
[14:22:45] <stennowork> partial application (stage-1);:
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[14:23:08] <Elarcis> huge compile times as a result of this, but that is not an issue of the langage, just of the implementation. It can be fixed without touching the langage.
[14:23:22] <stennowork> const base10parseInt = parseInt(?,10); ['1','2','3'].map(base10parseInt); // => [1,2,3]
[14:23:32] <stennowork> long compile time seems fine, right
[14:23:37] <stennowork> i mean that doesn't really matter
[14:23:53] <Elarcis> stennowork, heeehhh, can be really annoying when you need to test small fixes one by one
[14:24:00] <stennowork> i guess
[14:24:07] <Elarcis> stennowork, also annoying if type checking relies on something slow
[14:24:29] <Elarcis> stennowork, you write code and must dozens of seconds ’til your warnings disappear
[14:24:36] <Elarcis> *wait dozens
[14:25:01] <stennowork> const boundTransform = myAssembler.Transform(?); myArray.select(boundTransform); // this works with partial application, stage-1
[14:25:08] <stennowork> hmm i guess
[14:25:20] <stennowork> dunno when i last did something that required long compiling :D
[14:25:26] <SargoDarya> Reminds me about this one Meme I saw on reddit. "Is 400 too much?" "Depends. Warnings? No. Errors. Yes!"
[14:25:33] <stennowork> hehe
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[14:28:33] <Pyrrhus666> brings me back to the days when I compiled gnome (the desktop) myself. daily.
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[14:33:46] <Elarcis> TIL what rxjs’s Notification is and how to use the `materialize` and `dematerialize` operators https://rxjs-dev.firebaseapp.com/api/operators/materialize
[14:33:51] <Elarcis> Looks kind of useful
[14:33:57] <ray02> i'm so happy that the period of need to compile all at home is over
[14:34:47] <Elarcis> ray02, “over” might be a bit early though
[14:35:11] <Elarcis> ray02, also funnily it came after a period where you needed to compile on a distant mainframe
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[14:36:02] <Elarcis> stennowork, I don’t like that `(?)` thing in your example
[14:36:22] <Elarcis> stennowork, it’s way shorter to just do .select(o => myAssembler.transform(o))
[14:37:32] <stennowork> well in this specific case, probably
[14:37:40] <stennowork> but you might have situations where its not appropriate
[14:37:48] <stennowork> or rather, where its more appropriate
[14:38:50] <stennowork> i just wanted to show that with this syntax, its possible to bind functions to the objects context without having to use the silly `this.foo.bind(this)`
[14:39:06] <stennowork> and this works for nested objects too
[14:39:21] <stennowork> so you could do const boundNested = foo.bar.baz(?); // and it would work
[14:39:32] <stennowork> with .bind, this gets very nasty
[14:40:34] <Elarcis> stennowork, could I just do .select(this.foo(?))
[14:40:41] <Elarcis> stennowork, (still don’t like it)
[14:40:48] <stennowork> yes
[14:41:05] <stennowork> (?) syntax returns about, partially applied function
[14:41:16] <stennowork> well i am just abusing a side effect of partial application here
[14:41:31] <stennowork> this is probably not how you should do it in production, as the saying goes
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[14:41:58] <stennowork> s/about, /a/
[14:42:16] <stennowork> a bound, partially applied function*
[14:45:47] <Elarcis> pff, `this` in JS is really not the bestest thing ever conceived
[14:46:08] <stennowork> i think its super cool tbh :P
[14:46:09] <Elarcis> I know it can be powerful, e.g. that’s one of the cornerstones of Vue components
[14:46:15] <stennowork> i think its one of the great feature of JS
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[14:47:10] <stennowork> together with the tight integration of event loops, i.e. super-cheap coroutines
[14:47:10] <storkme> this, or partials?
[14:47:13] <stennowork> this
[14:47:18] <stennowork> `this`
[14:47:36] <storkme> hm :/
[14:47:40] <stennowork> lol
[14:47:42] <stennowork> fite me
[14:47:54] <storkme> i hate it
[14:48:14] <storkme> i really think it's one of javascripts biggest pitfalls
[14:48:25] <stennowork> itsa great caveat
[14:48:42] <stennowork> like 'with great power comes great responsibility'
[14:48:43] <stennowork> :P
[14:49:28] <storkme> what's the power, though? what can you do with `this` that's so useful?
[14:49:54] <stennowork> i can arbitrarily set the context of an executing function
[14:49:57] <Elarcis> storkme, Vue components in vanilla JS, before class was even a thing
[14:50:29] <stennowork> so the function itself does not need to care in which context it gets executed
[14:50:31] <Elarcis> storkme, now that `class` is a thing, it’s VERY annoying for classic OOP people
[14:50:37] <stennowork> yes,
[14:50:48] <stennowork> `this` is not the `this` of class-based OOP
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[14:51:00] <stennowork> but then again `class` is only syntax sugar anyway over prototype inheritance
[14:51:13] <stennowork> so `class` is also not the class of class-based OOP :P
[14:51:43] <Elarcis> storkme, basically `this` is super useful to plug behavior into an existing object, even without talking about prototypes. It’s just… a tool. A tool that does things, you can always do it another way.
[14:51:44] <storkme> to me it's clearer to just return a function that wraps another one. I don't see why we need this special thing `this` to achieve something that basic function composition is used for in every other language
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[14:53:11] <storkme> function composition works much better when using types, imo
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[14:58:56] <Elarcis> storkme, oh that depends, TS has type annotations for handling the type of `this` without classes ^-^
[15:00:08] <Elarcis> storkme, function foo(this: bar, baz: boolean) will only accept calling this function with `this` being of type bar (still only has one parameter, `this` is ghosted)
[15:04:44] <Elarcis> Oh, this is neat. https://rxjs-dev.firebaseapp.com/api/operators/pluck
[15:05:07] <SargoDarya> Neat indeed
[15:05:33] <stennowork> rxjs surely is lodash for promises (as they advertise) :)
[15:05:52] <stennowork> s/promises/events/
[15:06:11] <storkme> TIL, Elarcis - I didn't know you could type `this`. That makes things smoother I guess.
[15:06:17] <Elarcis> also work with nested properties :D
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[15:06:22] <storkme> pluck is nice, I use it a lot
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[15:29:12] <benl90> Hello, I've question, why my angular project building so slow, it takes 90s
[15:29:24] <benl90> Is there anything wrong with my way of code? Thanks
[15:30:40] <Pyrrhus666> yes
[15:32:16] <benl90> Pyrrhus666, I already move it as small chunk of module for each module
[15:32:39] <benl90> but seems it need to build more than 1200 modules and it takes more than 90s
[15:32:47] <benl90> Any suggestion?
[15:33:21] <Pyrrhus666> are you using HMR ?
[15:33:57] <Pyrrhus666> or more specifically, are we talking about a build-on-save, or a production build ?
[15:34:45] <benl90> build on save sir, I'm now still on development phase, after prod building it's not quite a problem but on development phase from warm start ng serve to project ready it needs 90s of time.
[15:35:39] <Pyrrhus666> does it rebuild everything on save ? then HMR isn't working properly.
[15:36:56] <benl90> Pyrrhus666, Seems It's not enabled or not properly set up, anyway can you teach me a little about it? What is HMR and such
[15:37:47] <benl90> Pyrrhus666, Some of my college says it's not stable yet. I'm on angular 8 project and using angular 8 component for building it (a component that only work on angular 8)
[15:38:25] <Pyrrhus666> hmr = hot module reloading, meaning it should only build the part of the source that actually changed
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[15:38:49] <benl90> Pyrrhus666, It's rebuilding everytime I run. Does it stable yet? I mean for angular 8
[15:39:00] <Pyrrhus666> it should be.
[15:39:10] <Pyrrhus666> hmr has worked since v4
[15:40:04] <benl90> Does it just work out of the box, I mean like this article says? https://codinglatte.com/posts/angular/enabling-hot-module-replacement-angular-6/
[15:41:27] <Pyrrhus666> my angular is a bit rusty, but for me it always worked out of the box. did you create your project with ng-cli ?
[15:43:17] <Pyrrhus666> I see that there are issues with the documentation around hmr.
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[15:45:36] <benl90> Pyrrhus666, Yes I always use ng command to create the project
[15:47:30] <Pyrrhus666> benl90, strange. I have no experience with 8, maybe somebody else here can chine in ?
[15:55:56] <benl90> Pyrrhus666, what angular version do you use?
[15:56:49] <benl90> my friend said that it's no enabled by default and he isn't sure yet if it's stable or not, so he stick to not use it
[15:58:43] <Elarcis> benl90, how are you rebuilding your project? are you just doing ng serve?
[15:59:16] <benl90> Elarcis, for cold boot ng serve take about 80s, I use fuse angular 8 template
[15:59:25] <benl90> It's auto rebuild btw
[15:59:45] <Elarcis> benl90, you mean that when rebuilding it takes longer than a cold boot? o_o
[16:00:21] <benl90> Oh wait, no it's swaped. both are cold boot
[16:00:51] <Elarcis> ok, and what happens when you save a file? Does it take the same time?
[16:02:08] <benl90> wrongly switched I mean. Just for now the building take about 75-90s, rebuilding take 2 nd on windows, but on linux on lower power machine it takes about 10-20s
[16:02:23] <benl90> I'm on i7-2670qm, it's a ancient cpu
[16:02:37] <benl90> if I set turbo boost it will reach 2s rebuild
[16:02:51] <benl90> without hmr
[16:03:39] <Elarcis> benl90, for a large project (say 1200 modules), that seems reasonable I guess
[16:04:15] <benl90> Elarcis, really? I mean on the old days, when I use ionic 3 it's much faster than this, it's on angular2 as far as I remember
[16:04:42] <Elarcis> benl90, 1200 modules is huge, are you talking node_modules or NgModules ?
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[16:05:24] <Elarcis> benl90, not sure of the perf impact but you could also consider extracting modules you touch less often into a library, so that it only gets built once https://angular.io/guide/creating-libraries#refactoring-parts-of-an-app-into-a-library
[16:05:53] <robin-rpr> do u also use lazy load o.O
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[16:06:15] <Elarcis> robin-rpr, afaik lazy loading does not impact compilation times
[16:06:30] <Elarcis> robin-rpr, we are not talking about download rates here
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[16:06:48] <Elarcis> robin-rpr, (nor app initialisation time)
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[16:08:02] <robin-rpr> whoops. totally agree. sorry, my comment was a bit out of context
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[16:11:52] <robin-rpr> is there a support for JIT instead of AOT in angular?
[16:13:35] <SargoDarya> robin-rpr: well, I guess. Why though?
[16:16:11] <robin-rpr> To minimize compile time
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[16:18:23] <benl90> the JIT only work on the browser side :v
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[16:19:01] <SargoDarya> robin-rpr: On which angular version are you? If compile time is an issue I'd suggest trying out Ivy with AOT because that's blazing fucking fast.
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[16:56:04] <Pyrrhus666> have a good one folks !
[16:56:30] <ray02> you too Pyrrhus666
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