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[00:11:21] <angularjs_baby> hello
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[00:15:53] <angularjs_baby> what is {{mywelcome}} here https://www.w3schools.com/angular/tryit.asp?filename=try_ng_http to be
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[00:29:24] <tragicwhale> hey angularjs, are you learning Angular?
[00:29:58] <angularjs_baby> yeah
[00:30:09] <tragicwhale> are you just starting?
[00:30:26] <angularjs_baby> approximately yes
[00:30:41] <angularjs_baby> not just starting
[00:30:47] <tragicwhale> no problem, I'd recommend learning Angular and not angularJs
[00:30:59] <angularjs_baby> why
[00:31:08] <tragicwhale> AngularJS is the older version
[00:31:17] <tragicwhale> Angular is the new one
[00:31:30] <tragicwhale> couple of new things and better performance
[00:31:49] <angularjs_baby> what benefits of angular over angularjs
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[00:32:50] <angularjs_baby> better performance like ?
[00:33:06] <tragicwhale> I wish I could tell you specifically but considering AngularJS is version 1 and Angular is version 2,3,4,5
[00:33:26] <tragicwhale> I just don't want you to learn something that is old
[00:33:33] <angularjs_baby> yep
[00:34:10] <tragicwhale> but back to your question
[00:34:24] <tragicwhale> {{mywelcome}} is a data bind
[00:35:00] <tragicwhale> in your component file you createa property of mywelcome: string = "Hello AngularJS Students"
[00:35:24] <tragicwhale> in you HTML file, {{mywelcome}} will be replaced with the string
[00:36:48] <angularjs_baby> mywelcome = "Hello AngularJS Students" like this?
[00:36:59] <angularjs_baby> mywelcome: string = "Hello AngularJS Students" or like this
[00:37:05] <angularjs_baby> ?
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[00:45:22] <tragicwhale> from some great advice from another gent in here BlinkyBill, it's your preference
[00:45:48] <tragicwhale> the second one just prevents someone from changing it from a string to a number
[00:46:04] <tragicwhale> the first won't and it'll automatically change the type to number or any other type
[00:46:36] <angularjs_baby> hmm
[00:46:38] <tragicwhale> but you never know what the consequences to that change will be
[00:47:06] <angularjs_baby> yes
[00:49:05] <tragicwhale> {{mywelcome}} <--- this data binding is called interpolation
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[01:22:11] <devslash> what is wrong with this component ? https://pastebin.com/EGypHsqY
[01:22:32] <devslash> I am getting an error trying to implement an OnChanges event
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[02:56:43] <c4p> Looking for a little Angular 1.x help https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49543321/angularjs-on-click-section-then-apply-values-to-contained-inputs
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[05:23:15] <theology> which angularjs would it make the most sense to learn? I am wanting to learn angular2 but im not sure that makes senes
[05:23:18] <theology> sense*
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[06:20:22] <Peppa_Swine> they're two completely different things. if you like normal js, go with ng1, if you like overengineering and torturing yourself in general, you're gonna like ng2+, theology.
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[06:57:35] <quarterfront> Peppa_Swine: definitely currently torturing myself :-p if i wasn't trying to find a dev job, i'd probably avoid angular
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[08:24:45] <Elarcis> Yoo
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[09:31:25] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
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[09:35:51] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: \o
[09:36:23] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis. still relaxed ?
[09:37:33] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: A bit
[09:38:33] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: you ?
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[09:39:33] <Pyrrhus666> tgif, so that helps :)
[09:39:54] <Pyrrhus666> and I need it due to lack of sleep...
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[09:42:24] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: you party too hard
[09:43:19] <Pyrrhus666> nah, just theater and some drinks, I´m old, you know ;)
[09:45:09] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: One only gets old when they don’t want to be young anymore.
[09:45:50] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, in my experience that is valid for the mind, but the body starts lagging behind ;)
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[09:54:38] <ray02> hello hello
[09:54:41] <ray02> good morning
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[09:54:51] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
[09:55:29] <ray02> ready for a long weekend?
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[09:57:36] <Pyrrhus666> always :)
[09:57:52] <ray02> eheh
[09:58:01] <ray02> i will go to tell aviv
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[10:00:16] <ray02> i'm very curius
[10:00:46] <Elarcis> ray02: what are you going to tell aviv?
[10:00:50] <Elarcis> ray02: :P
[10:01:01] <ray02> yes
[10:01:09] <ray02> are you there?
[10:01:18] <Elarcis> ray02: no, not at all
[10:01:19] <Pyrrhus666> hehe, that was my first thought :)
[10:01:37] <Elarcis> ray02: also you missed the pun by about 90° :P
[10:02:40] <Elarcis> It just dawned on me that I am not making enough tests to accomodate for our daltonian users.
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[10:03:23] <Elarcis> Especially since I learned that we have some
[10:03:48] <Pyrrhus666> I´m at zero tests...
[10:04:14] <ray02> eheh
[10:04:20] <ray02> me either
[10:04:43] <Elarcis> urgh… all our green/red swatches have exactly the same brightness
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[10:05:16] <Elarcis> to someone that is red blind, it is true hell.
[10:05:16] <Pyrrhus666> are you on a monochrome monitor ? :P
[10:05:33] <Pyrrhus666> ah yes, that´s nasty
[10:06:15] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: no, I am using a color-blindness image corrector, but there are chrome extensions for dynamically simulate that… if only the customer’s google system allowed extension.
[10:06:52] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, tools that help a dev, should be forbidden, right ? /s
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[10:25:48] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: well the customer isn’t a development company
[10:26:00] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: we don’t even have powerful machines
[10:26:27] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, there´s devs at work, so it´s at least part a dev-company, and should cater to that.
[10:27:28] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: "should" :P
[10:30:46] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, the keyword, yes ;)
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[11:00:10] <Elarcis> flexbox is so amazing.
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[11:07:09] <ray02> i agree
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[11:07:26] <ray02> and grid layout either more
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[13:39:37] <ray02> today is very quite day right?
[13:41:07] <Elarcis> well it is certainly some day.
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[13:43:10] <ray02> eheh
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[13:47:54] <Pyrrhus6661> that´s what happens when icebox has a day off, SargoDarya is MIA, Elarcis is too relaxed, I´m too busy, and all the noobs are asleep...
[13:52:07] <ray02> this is what i'm suprised
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[13:52:18] <ray02> the noops are sleeping
[13:52:24] <ray02> is it possible?
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[13:52:36] <ray02> noobs*
[13:53:12] <Pyrrhus6661> maybe in general noobs are religious christians celebrating easter already ? idunno :)
[13:53:35] <ray02> curious
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[13:55:16] <ray02> who has created this channel?
[13:55:32] <ray02> icebox?
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[14:06:49] <Pyrrhus6661> no, but I forgot who
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[14:08:52] <Pyrrhus6661> Foxandxss, I think
[14:10:42] <Elarcis> Haven’t seen him in a heck of a while
[14:11:02] <Pyrrhus6661> yeah, just saw he´s off the angular team
[14:11:28] <Elarcis> oh, did he join the Blazor one? :P
[14:12:51] <Pyrrhus6661> dunno, his github is pretty quiet
[14:14:07] <ray02> it's also strange for me that there are so many person in the channel but active are just a few
[14:14:35] <ray02> what are doing all the time ?
[14:16:34] <Elarcis> ray02: lurkers.
[14:16:53] <zomg> oh fox is off the angular team?
[14:17:04] <zomg> haven't seen him around for a while on discord either, used to play some gaems with him
[14:17:42] <zomg> well, I say that, he did actually mention a random game yesterday :P
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[14:40:25] <ray02> this irc word is very bizzare :)
[14:41:00] <ray02> btw do you know this tools ? http://formidable.com/open-source/development-dashboards/
[14:43:27] <Pyrrhus6661> I´m too oldskool to ever use a ´dashboard´ ;)
[14:45:49] <Elarcis> ray02: although these look neat, no I’m not using them :P
[14:46:54] <Elarcis> ray02: mainly because my version of webpack is severely outdated for cause of customer wanting to "push forward with features" rather than "take a small pause to make the leap and ensuring proper maintenance"
[14:47:08] <Pyrrhus6661> so the electron one, just to drag your machine down a little bit more ;)
[14:47:10] <Elarcis> I’m not even sure an upgrade can be done anymore
[14:47:14] <Pyrrhus6661> *do the
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[15:43:27] <ray02> i'm curious to try it
[15:43:54] <ray02> i want to see how bad are my proejct :p
[15:44:26] <ray02> but i don't understand how to configure it with angular cli
[15:44:45] <ray02> since there is no webpack config file
[15:49:08] <Pyrrhus6661> ray02, ng eject will lead the way
[15:49:45] <Pyrrhus6661> OT : http://shorteststory.com/index.php?date=2017-12-25
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[15:51:20] <Peppa_Swine> OINK OINK MFERS
[15:52:40] <ray02> Pyrrhus6661: what is it that link? are just short story?
[15:52:51] <Pyrrhus6661> yup
[15:52:58] <Pyrrhus6661> afternoon heartburn
[15:53:16] <ray02> not bad
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[15:54:04] <Peppa_Swine> Pyrrhus6661: w/o punctuation it sounds like a band name.
[15:54:09] <Peppa_Swine> i'm stealing it.
[15:54:40] <Pyrrhus6661> Peppa_Swine, what, shorteststory ?
[15:54:52] <Pyrrhus6661> ah, it´s not mine anyway ;)
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[15:55:01] <Peppa_Swine> no.
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[15:58:59] <Peppa_Swine> anyway, i just ate about a half kilo of cabbage and i think i'm gonna die. how's your day going?
[15:59:30] <Pyrrhus666> better than yours, I guess, I just drank half a liter of water ;)
[15:59:52] <Pyrrhus666> and winding down towards a long easter weekend, so it´s good.
[16:00:56] <Peppa_Swine> speaking of which...
[16:01:29] <Peppa_Swine> say, if a had to spend a month somewhere in netherlands, what would be the cheapest+nicest place to go?
[16:02:03] <Peppa_Swine> and how much money do i need to rent a modest studio and avoid starvation?
[16:02:14] <Peppa_Swine> at the same time, preferably.
[16:03:15] <Pyrrhus666> that´s not an easy question... cheap is not nice, nice is not cheap... you want to be in in one of the big cities (amsterdam, rotterdam, the hague or utrecht), it´ll be expensive
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[16:04:11] <Peppa_Swine> can you give me some average monthly budget?
[16:05:42] <Pyrrhus666> for amsterdam up to 1000 euros for something decent, I guess.
[16:05:43] <Peppa_Swine> i'm trying to plan out where to go next month and further, considering my options.
[16:06:00] <Peppa_Swine> just the flat? or including food?
[16:06:25] <Pyrrhus666> just the flat. the big cities are srsly expensive
[16:06:49] <Peppa_Swine> guess i'm not gonna to netherlands then, lol.
[16:06:53] <Peppa_Swine> thanks still.
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[16:07:09] <Booster2ooo> I guess you can avoid big cities as well can't you?
[16:07:24] <Pyrrhus666> if you go to the northeast part of the netherlands, it´s dirt cheap. but nobody wants to be there
[16:07:43] <Pyrrhus666> Peppa_Swine, any idea whereabouts you´d want to be ?
[16:07:46] <Peppa_Swine> i've been travelling since past october, and the main goal is to go as cheap as possible. so yeah, no preferences whatsoever.
[16:08:45] <Peppa_Swine> Pyrrhus666: interesting, what's wrong with the north east?
[16:08:52] <Booster2ooo> maybe Eindhoven? Is it considered a big city as well?
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[16:09:21] <Peppa_Swine> never heard of it, lol. gonna look it up, thank you.
[16:09:51] <Pyrrhus666> well, all activity is centered in and around the area that the big 4 cities make. outside of that, economic activity is low, hence living is much cheaper
[16:10:12] <Peppa_Swine> i see.
[16:10:35] <Pyrrhus666> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randstad
[16:10:56] <Pyrrhus666> that´s the area I´m talking about
[16:11:39] <Pyrrhus666> essentially three provinces : north- and south houland and utrecht.
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[16:11:51] <Peppa_Swine> randstad. is it like, round city or something?
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[16:12:29] <Booster2ooo> From a Belgian point of view, the north of Netherlands is pretty interesting, that's where you find coffeeshops xD
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[16:13:54] <Pyrrhus666> literally : edge-city. but rim-city is better, it´s a sort of circular ring of cities with a green(er) center
[16:14:31] <Pyrrhus666> for cheap : go to groningen, the mist northeastern province.
[16:14:32] <Peppa_Swine> die runde Stadt. :p
[16:14:42] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, kind of :)
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[16:15:01] <Peppa_Swine> gronigen, noted!
[16:15:05] <Peppa_Swine> ng
[16:15:06] <Peppa_Swine> *
[16:15:14] <Pyrrhus666> you must like ultra flat and extremely windy landscapes though ;)
[16:16:14] <Peppa_Swine> well, i'm currently staying in a pretty ultraflat surroundings, so it's safe to say i got used to it already. :o)
[16:17:29] <Pyrrhus666> do you have a budget ?
[16:18:07] <Pyrrhus666> also : since I´ve just moved twice in my life I´m not a very reliable source, but in general what I said is true ;)
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[16:19:23] <Peppa_Swine> nah i just do freelance gigs as i go, no budget. thankfully they've been somewhat regular recently.
[16:19:33] <Peppa_Swine> i guess i spend about 500 eur a month.
[16:20:06] <Pyrrhus666> just for a place to stay, or including food ?
[16:21:19] <Peppa_Swine> everything. :o)
[16:21:29] <Peppa_Swine> i'm traveling around very cheap places though.
[16:21:39] <Pyrrhus666> that will be challenging, I guess :)
[16:21:45] <Pyrrhus666> not impossible though
[16:22:06] <Peppa_Swine> 3 months in bulgaria, a week in iceland (jesus fuck the place is expensive), a week in poland, and now staying in belarus for another 3 months.
[16:22:58] <Pyrrhus666> cool :) netherlands is cheaper than iceland, I guess, but srsly more expensive tham bulgaria, poland and belarus
[16:23:17] <Peppa_Swine> yeah, that's for sure
[16:24:16] <Peppa_Swine> i better start with checking out airbnb listings then. just to get the taste.
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[16:24:44] <Pyrrhus666> there is an alternative : we have a thing called ´anti-kraak wonen´. you get to live in vacant buildings like offices for cheap, to prevent squatters taking it over.
[16:25:18] <Peppa_Swine> oh. and what if they do? do we fight or?
[16:25:23] <Peppa_Swine> what's the procudure? :o)
[16:26:12] <Pyrrhus666> you need to be able to leave the place at just weeks notice though, and I don´t know if it´s easy for foreigners
[16:27:03] <Peppa_Swine> i'd assume nearly impossible. :p
[16:27:23] <Peppa_Swine> but still, good to know. never heard of such a thing.
[16:29:12] <Peppa_Swine> interesting. if this thing basically allows you to squat the place legally, why don't regular squatters use that?
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[16:30:37] <Pyrrhus666> it´s complicated. in the past, squatters had rights, since leaving buildings vacant in times of need is sort of a criminal act. but the laws have become stricter, and squatters are now easier to evict. the whole thing is one big gray area
[16:31:27] <Peppa_Swine> i see. something similar happened (or still happening) with tacheles in berlin, i guess.
[16:31:58] <Peppa_Swine> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunsthaus_Tacheles
[16:32:47] <Pyrrhus666> amsterdam has something similar : vrankrijk
[16:33:31] <Pyrrhus666> http://vrankrijk.org/
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[16:34:37] <Pyrrhus666> maybe contacting the guys of squat.net can give you pointers : https://planet.squat.net/
[16:35:11] <Peppa_Swine> thank you man. <3
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[16:35:27] <Pyrrhus666> one of their admins used to work for us, we used to host that site... old days :)
[16:37:04] <Pyrrhus666> not sure how active they still are, they used to be big in the cities, esp. amsterdam
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[16:38:56] <Peppa_Swine> judging by timestamps in the sidebar, they're still pretty active.
[16:39:16] <Peppa_Swine> great website.
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[16:47:50] <Pyrrhus666> Peppa_Swine, kind of curious where you´ll eventually end up, if all works out ;)
[16:48:03] <Pyrrhus666> off in a bit folks, have a nice easter weekend
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[16:51:40] <ladybug_> hello, new to angularjs
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[17:00:11] <ray02> hello ladybug
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[17:27:50] <Elarcis> the wonderful world of reddit: user posts an unpopular opinion AND is an ass about it, complains that downvotes are just a sheep brigade while making a "thought provocative" "social analysis" instead of just stop burying themselves
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[17:42:14] <Peppa_Swine> /r/iamverysmart
[17:44:50] <Peppa_Swine> is it me or irssi stopped redrawing half the screen while paging up/down?
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[18:40:49] <Elarcis> Peppa_Swine: it is so that. somehow people who don’t like you are dumb.
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[18:49:24] <Guest26877> Peppa_Swine: ? lol
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[23:00:08] <Peppa_Swine> ready player one is shit. discuss.
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[23:36:08] <tragicwhale> don't tell me that, I was looking forward to it
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