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[00:24:15] <tragicwhale> hey everyone, new to angular, today is my first day in any framework and was just curious, are frameworks confusing when you first start them or is it just me, thanks in advance
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[00:33:14] <BlinkyBill> tragicwhale, they can be confusing. My advice would be to find a good book or online tutorial and try and follow that through.
[00:33:49] <BlinkyBill> You need to learn to think "angular". And using 101 online snippets can be confusing when you're starting out. No different with any other framework.
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[00:44:10] <tragicwhale> BlinkyBill, thanks for your advice and it's just good to know that they can be confusing. I'm going through the docs right now on Angular's website to start off even though I got a little lost with the services but I'll finish it and then do codeschool and then move onto pluralsight, I'll do what you said though and just stick with it. Thanks again.
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[00:45:50] <BlinkyBill> Are you using angularjs or angular.io? angularjs is old, and not the best place to start.
[00:48:42] <tragicwhale> I'm using Angular or as it is forsaken to call it, Angular 2+
[00:48:50] <tragicwhale> not js for sure though
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[00:49:25] <BlinkyBill> yes, it's confusing. I call it Angular new, or Angular 2+. thought it's not really new anymore :)
[00:50:19] <tragicwhale> exactly, yeah, it's my first framework so it's been one heck of a learning curve
[00:51:24] <BlinkyBill> Just stick with it. It will come. Getting your head around it can be hard. Hence following a guide, and at some point it will start clicking, even if not to start with. You're on the right path though :)
[00:52:33] <BlinkyBill> Feel free to ask about concepts that don't make sense here too.
[01:02:41] <tragicwhale> Awesome, thanks Bill, I really do appreciate it :)
[01:02:54] <tragicwhale> I'll be here often for sure.
[01:11:43] <BlinkyBill> Great! someone to keep me company Australian time. :)
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[01:30:27] <tragicwhale> Ha, what time is it for you locally, it's 4:29pm for me
[01:31:24] <BlinkyBill> 10:30am
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<tase> Hello, I have a question; when declaring modules and controllers, whats the established way to load the controllers into modules? Does the controller export itself to the module and the module attaches it, or does the controller attach itself to the declared module in it's own file? Here is a small gist of what I'm talking about: https://gist.github.com/philippeop/e667e22e3d2cb093ebfce67a74de8deb
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[02:28:51] <tase> Currently im using the second section, but I'm trying to introduce Webpack, and having imports in the modules causes the controllers to not know of the existance of the modules, since the import is evaluated before the rest of the file
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[02:45:32] <BlinkyBill> Sorry tase, no idea with Angular 1.?.
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[02:47:43] <BlinkyBill> My Angular 1 stuff has a grunt build file that ensures everything is loaded in order. My 2+ stuff uses webpack, but it's like magic, and just works
[02:48:54] <tase> Yes I have the same setup, angular 1.6 with grunt and 5 with webpack
[02:49:15] <tase> But we want to introduce webpack in the 1.6 project and eventually start upgrading to 5
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[03:05:43] <BlinkyBill> Arrr. Good luck.
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[09:02:18] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
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[09:18:25] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hey
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[09:25:25] <SargoDarya> Morning folks
[09:26:07] <Phaneron> good morning
[09:26:31] <Pyrrhus666> mornign SargoDarya Phaneron
[09:27:48] <icebox> SargoDarya, Phaneron: hey
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[09:32:07] <Elarcis> Yoo
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[09:33:13] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
[09:33:17] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis
[09:33:43] <Elarcis> Good morning :)
[09:34:09] <Elarcis> Dunno why, I feel nice and patient and optimistic today
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[09:39:02] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, stay away from everyone at your orkplace if you want it to stay that way ;)
[09:39:09] <icebox> :P
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[09:42:38] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: My coworkers are calm, especially since the grumpy one isn’t there
[09:43:15] <icebox> :P
[09:43:18] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, are you talking about yourself now ?
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[09:43:49] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: please eat bricks <3
[09:44:59] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, sorry, couldn´t resist :P
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[09:56:16] <icebox> CssNoOb: do you mean you don't know how to inject (to use) the service in a component?
[09:56:37] <ray02> hello hello
[09:56:46] <ray02> good morning channel
[09:56:58] <CssNoOb> I guess
[09:56:59] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
[09:57:20] <CssNoOb> like for that example
[09:57:51] <icebox> ray02: hey
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[09:58:23] <icebox> CssNoOb: ok... we have two different examples... what is the question?
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[10:00:19] <CssNoOb> How can I call order propery?
[10:01:12] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: wrong question ; your order property shouldn’t be called from the service, but be given to the service in the module’s init process.
[10:01:22] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: look up "Angular forRoot"
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[10:06:43] <SargoDarya> I'd wish there was RouterModule.forNoob()
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[10:09:28] <CssNoOb> Elarcis :|
[10:10:15] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: What?
[10:11:09] <CssNoOb> Elarcis
[10:11:10] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: no I can’t, but you can
[10:12:08] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: you’re thinking of your dependencies in the wrong direction: rather than have your service fetch its config in the module, you need the module to fetch the service and set its config.
[10:13:03] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: this can be done with the 'provide' keyword, and having your config available as an injectable token, as shown in my previous link
[10:17:55] <CssNoOb> ModuleWithProviders Elarcis
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[10:18:55] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: yes, what about it?
[10:19:19] <CssNoOb> Having a hard time , solving it
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[10:22:32] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: it’s your module’s usual class, with dynamic providers declarations next to it
[10:22:41] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: What specific roadblocks are you encountering?
[10:22:52] <CssNoOb> all of it
[10:23:32] <CssNoOb> so I'll put my orders inside appmodule {}
[10:24:32] <CssNoOb> oh wait
[10:25:09] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: Except "all of it", is there a particular concept you’d like me to explain?
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[10:26:47] <CssNoOb> How can I work the service
[10:26:51] <CssNoOb> subscribe part
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[10:44:07] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: I simplified your use case, seems your service seems to be in the AppModule, you don’t really need forRoot, you can just define your constant and directly configure your provider through it
[10:44:50] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: please mind that if you are using sub-modules, it’s better to allow their configuration, one way or the other. forRoot() is a nice convention to ensure a module is configured once ; at the root module.
[10:45:46] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: I’ll let you write the necessary code to test my solution, I’m a bit too busy to learn how to use observables this morning :P
[10:46:02] <CssNoOb> oh boy
[10:48:53] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: nvm, I just set a console log in component-one to quickly test it
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[10:50:32] <CssNoOb> Elarcis cool
[10:51:07] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: you have now exhausted the amount of help you can get from me. Please insert coin to continue.
[10:51:32] <CssNoOb> lol
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[10:51:46] <CssNoOb> I don't get it. Thanks for the help
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[10:51:57] <icebox> CssNoOb: anyway I don't understand you are using that approach
[10:51:59] <CssNoOb> I'll try to understand the code
[10:52:12] <CssNoOb> Me neither icebox
[10:52:17] <icebox> ah ok :P
[10:52:31] <CssNoOb> fail fast huhuuhu
[10:53:33] <Pyrrhus666> CssNoOb, if you had done the tour of heroes tutorial, you would understand all of this
[10:54:03] <CssNoOb> Pyrrhus666 it's outdated
[10:54:06] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: FF release (59.0.2) at work and FF beta at home... see how it works :)
[10:54:12] <Pyrrhus666> CssNoOb, no it´s not.
[10:54:20] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, good :)
[10:54:43] <CssNoOb> Pyrrhus666 ok
[10:55:18] <Pyrrhus666> CssNoOb, the tour of heroes is the _only_ tutorial in the web that is always up-to-date, since it´s integrated in the documentation
[10:55:50] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: no idea if I need to report that yesterday glitch for FF beta
[10:56:08] <CssNoOb> observables is part also?
[10:56:21] <Pyrrhus666> CssNoOb, yes.
[10:56:22] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: the Tour of Heroes is as up-to-date and official as you can get…
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[10:56:42] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I´d wait for the next beta to see if it´s gone ;)
[10:56:58] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: b7 was out yesterday and it is there
[10:57:16] <Pyrrhus666> CssNoOb, you´re not looking in the right place, that´s why
[10:57:58] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ok... maybe I wait for two or three betas... I gave a look at ff bugzilla and it is a nightmare :)
[10:58:25] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: dozens of categories to tag the bug
[10:58:27] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yeah, for any project of that size, the bug-list is gonna be ginormous :)
[10:59:00] <Pyrrhus666> hmm, my spellchecker actually knows ´ginormous´... weird :)
[10:59:06] <icebox> :P
[10:59:43] <icebox> no idea about the mean, but my subcortical chip understood it
[10:59:59] <icebox> *the meaning
[11:00:25] <Pyrrhus666> gigantic + enormous = ginormous
[11:00:37] <icebox> Top 40% of words
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[11:10:08] <SargoDarya> wow
[11:11:26] <Pyrrhus666> ?
[11:11:32] <Elarcis> ?
[11:11:44] <SargoDarya> ginormous
[11:11:53] <SargoDarya> Didn't know it actually is a real word
[11:12:01] <SargoDarya> The more you know
[11:12:08] <Pyrrhus666> me neither, thought it was slang
[11:12:15] <icebox> eningantic? :)
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[11:14:55] <Pyrrhus666> that´s a tongue-twister ;)
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[11:23:48] <CssNoOb> Pyrrhus666 Should I do the tutorial or the best, have the problem to know it
[11:24:30] <CssNoOb> Maybe like do the tutorail, and no time already because of work and sprint
[11:25:58] <Elarcis> CssNoOb: Consider it this way: if you don’t do the tutorial, your sprint is 100% guaranteed to be a catastrophe, while if you do it you might have a chance to work a lot quicker and save it
[11:26:20] <Pyrrhus666> ^^
[11:26:43] <mursu> ello
[11:27:06] <icebox> mursu: hey
[11:27:08] <Pyrrhus666> morning ngWalrus
[11:27:38] <icebox> tracking in action :)
[11:27:42] <icebox> resistance is futile
[11:28:10] <Pyrrhus666> just noticed the nick-change accidentally.
[11:28:42] <mursu> decided to change it since I've branched out to react lol
[11:28:56] <Pyrrhus666> infidel :P
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[11:29:09] <mursu> :DD
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[11:33:05] <CssNoOb> Elarcis hmm
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[12:12:24] <teadict> So this request is being called twice in a row, unless I set the $resource to cache:true... Why would a request be called twice? ^.-
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[12:14:32] <Pyrrhus666> because it´s encountered in code twice, and caching is not the solution ?
[12:14:52] <Pyrrhus666> (as in : caching just ´hides´ the 2nd req)
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[12:36:56] <Peppa_Swine> OINK OINK MFERS
[12:37:03] <mursu> what
[12:37:49] <Pyrrhus666> hi heartburn
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[12:39:57] <Peppa_Swine> forgot what i wanted to ask.
[12:40:02] <Peppa_Swine> well shit.
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[13:33:52] <icebox> back
[13:33:55] <icebox> back
[13:33:59] <icebox> twice? :)
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[13:45:01] <icebox> really insane
[13:45:09] <icebox> that is a programmer :)
[13:45:17] <Pyrrhus666> yup :)
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[13:48:59] <ray02> baam incredible
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[14:05:55] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, not very different from the container-tab stuff that already exists, but yes :)
[14:08:53] <Pyrrhus666> that one I already have (used by the tree-style-tabs extensions which is fantastic btw)
[14:10:48] <ray02> ah very nice
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[16:24:22] <al-damiri> Hi #angularjs, does anyone know if it's possible to get access to your Angular services from the console (Chrome DevTools) for debugging purposes?
[16:26:17] <icebox> al-damiri: well... you should create the context for the service, then the instance and eventually you can call the method... but the is not the way... start your app and use the breakpoints
[16:26:33] <icebox> *but that
[16:27:19] <icebox> al-damiri: basically it is what a unit test does
[16:28:00] <icebox> al-damiri: if you need to debug something, use the breakpoints :)
[16:28:00] <al-damiri> so here's the thing, what I want to do is create some automated e2e tests using Ghost Inspector and as part of the test steps, we can execute some arbitrary JS code. I need to have a way of figuring out what the data inside one of the service is and then do assertions based on that.
[16:28:22] <al-damiri> sorry, I should have been clear in what I actually wanted to do.
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[16:28:38] <icebox> what is ghost inspector?
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[16:28:57] <Pyrrhus666> somebody you´re gonna call
[16:28:58] <al-damiri> it's an automated web site testing service.
[16:29:03] <al-damiri> Pyrrhus666: :)
[16:29:03] <shree> Hi, I'm trying to setup my angular app on nginx
[16:29:05] <icebox> I see
[16:29:15] <shree> But routing doesn't work
[16:29:26] <al-damiri> basically, you create your tests by the Google Chrome add-on that they have, and then have them run it etc.
[16:29:37] <shree> any help would be appreciated
[16:29:37] <icebox> shree: because client routing !== server routing
[16:31:25] <shree> Pyrrhus666: I followed that, this nginx server has multiple locations
[16:31:49] <Elarcis> gniii, JS modules declared as global TS namespaces, freaking clowns
[16:32:27] <icebox> al-damiri: adjust the app accordingly with the recent version of angular
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[16:33:39] <icebox> shree: do you mean multiple document roots?
[16:34:04] <shree> @icebox yes
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[16:34:39] <icebox> shree: ok... that is related to the web server configuration... not to angular
[16:35:02] <shree> agree, thanks
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[16:35:19] <icebox> shree: I have multiple document roots and I have no problem to configure express in node.js
[16:35:32] <icebox> shree: but it is backend affair :)
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[16:35:48] <shree> ng build --base-href=/my/app/ what does it do
[16:36:22] <Elarcis> shree: it builds your app with a base href of /my/app/
[16:36:34] <Elarcis> shree: :P
[16:36:46] <al-damiri> icebox: thanks for that looks like what I might be needing, I'll read up on it since I'm not familiar with Injector.
[16:37:00] <icebox> shree: and it is something different where the resources are located (in different document routes) and the base reference
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[16:39:37] <icebox> shree: legit urls /node_modules/d3/build/d3.min.js and /my/app/component/foo/foo.js... /node_modules and /my/app may point to a different locations and then you may have a different base ref
[16:40:05] <icebox> shree: what is your concern? web server configuration? anything not working? any error?
[16:40:24] <shree> okay, thank you icebox
[16:41:06] <shree> for me index page is loading without any issues, the routing pages i configured in angular doesn't work
[16:41:39] <icebox> shree: the keyword is "relative" URLs
[16:41:59] <icebox> shree: just to explain what is a base href
[16:42:30] <icebox> shree: ok... you need to open devtools and give a look at network tab or any error in the console
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[16:43:07] <icebox> shree: need to understand if you misconfigured the web server or there is an error in app routing
[16:43:27] <icebox> that is the way to proceed
[16:44:03] <shree> yeah, trying that out now.. thanks a lot
[16:44:18] <icebox> shree: if you are in stuck we are here :P
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[16:44:39] <icebox> at least... I am off in a few minutes :)
[16:44:47] <Elarcis> icebox: nuuuuuuuuh
[16:44:52] <Elarcis> icebox: staaaaaayyyy
[16:45:26] <Pyrrhus666> me too, see y´all tomorrow
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[16:46:01] <icebox> Elarcis: :P
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[16:46:13] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: regards to the pet :)
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[16:48:04] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, will do ;)
[16:49:51] <icebox> ah... and I am off until Tuesday :)
[16:50:09] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, nice, a long easter weekend :)
[16:50:14] <icebox> yep :P
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[18:10:08] <docmur> Hey guys, I'm running into an annoying problem with md-tabs, when I click my tab of interest, <div md-tabs-template="::tab.template" md-connected-if="tab.isActive()" md-scope="::tab.parent" ng-if="$mdTabsCtrl.enableDisconnect || tab.shouldRender()"> get injected into the Dom, my question is, how do I select that with CSS?
[18:10:26] <docmur> Edge has an issue (nly edge), where I have to adjust that <div> tag to height: 100%
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[20:02:19] <amcsi> hi
[20:02:52] <amcsi> in angularjs router, how do I preserve the previous state variables in ui-sref="" ?
[20:03:25] <amcsi> so typically I'm within a /:id/something, and I want to go to /:id/somethingelse, but keeping the same ID as before
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[21:52:27] <BlinkyBill> good morning one and all
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