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[00:10:51] <Ownix> BlinkyBill: I'm using full visual studio 2017 Enterprise ATM but I did the angular heroes tutorial in vscode and it was really nice. So with QuakkaJS you can run your tests live?
[00:11:11] <Ownix> I haven't written any tests yet, surprised the heores tutorial didn't have a texting section
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[00:13:39] <BlinkyBill> I use VS-full for server side and vscode for client. Quakka may work with full, I don't know. It's not for running tests. think of it more like plunkr, in that you can write bits of code, and see them evaluated in real time.
[00:14:24] <BlinkyBill> It helped me a lot with understanding what observables and the associated functions did
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[00:16:21] <Ownix> BlinkyBill: well my Angular app is inside of a ASP.NET Core app, the API is completely separate.
[00:16:29] <Ownix> Its the "dotnet new angular" template
[00:17:26] <BlinkyBill> Cool. My stuff is server portal with API, and separate client and app. So a nice separation. Having said that I've got some old angular 1.? code in the server interface. One day.
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[00:30:10] <Natalie> Ownix, I've been using VS2017 as well. since I got things properly setup, it's worked really well for me.
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[00:43:44] <BlinkyBill> Ahh, coffee time I think. back in a bit
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[00:57:02] <Ownix> Natalie: yeah it seems pretty smart with code generation and all that. I did notice some helpers like when I type an import path aren't there but maybe I didn't do it in the right order.
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[01:05:51] <BlinkyBill> Ownix, if you're doing typescript and importing from NPM libs of your own code, don't type the import lines. If in your code you type the object you want, the intellisence will find it, and once shows, hit the <tab> key and it will automatically add the import for you. Save a lot of time, and mucking about with paths!
[01:06:08] <BlinkyBill> *or your own code
[01:09:20] <Natalie> Ah. I'm still working in browser-runnable javascript.
[01:10:38] <BlinkyBill> If you've every used a typed language, typescript is like a lovely warm bath after being in the wild west of untyped rough and ready Javascript :D
[01:11:45] <Natalie> My personal preference is Python. It's got all the typelessness of javascript, but it comes with libraries and features!
[01:11:48] <BlinkyBill> And the default angular install makes it pretty easy to transition, as it's already set up with webpack so you get native degugging in the browser etc.
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[01:15:14] <BlinkyBill> Python! Gah. That's the one language I've managed to largely avoid. Not my favourite, but yes, it's got masses of libs. And I've got lots of friends who love it too :)
[01:16:14] <BlinkyBill> Whilst the argument could be made that I'm missing out on what I don't know enough about, I choose to rather think that everyone else is wrong ;)
[01:16:46] * BlinkyBill is only kidding
[01:17:35] * Natalie is happily wrong.
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[01:18:24] <BlinkyBill> haha
[01:18:57] <Natalie> I've definitely enjoyed typed languages in the past, and I miss that in Python. But 99% of the time, I can write some intuitive in python and it /just works/.
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[01:19:53] <Natalie> Javascript is more like: "How the F$#@ do I iterate of an object again?"
[01:20:16] <BlinkyBill> Haha, so true!
[01:20:34] <Natalie> I miss my "for x in y:" loops.
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[01:20:50] <BlinkyBill> I find that the lack of typing makes my debugging process so much longer.
[01:21:12] <BlinkyBill> Yes, and our all time favourite hasOwnProperty on every iteration :/
[01:21:20] <Natalie> Oh well. I'm learning way more about promises than I ever thought possible.
[01:21:46] <BlinkyBill> What version of Angular are you on? 1.?
[01:21:53] <Natalie> Yeah. 1.5.2.
[01:22:06] <Natalie> It's what I've been given when I walked into the job. Lots of existing code.
[01:23:19] <BlinkyBill> Cool. I've got some maintenance stuff on 1.?, and new stuff in <whatever the current version is>. Newer does away with promises in favour of observables. That's a head stretcher.
[01:23:25] <Natalie> The previous developer did a silly, and accidentally made all calls to $http return successful, regardless of if they failed or now. So now all the failure checks are at the beginning of the corresponding .then() calls XD
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[01:24:30] <Natalie> They added an injector, and when the errorHandler is called, they just return the argument value, instead of wrapping it in a $q.reject().
[01:24:41] <BlinkyBill> It's always fascinating looking at other people's code, and trying to understand the pattern decisions they made. I've been humbled in the past when I thought someone had been an idiot, only to discover down the track why.
[01:26:16] <BlinkyBill> There was some poor junior dev here the other day needing to implement some crazy pattern because his boss told him to do it that way. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.
[01:26:36] <Natalie> lol, sounds like where I am.
[01:26:52] <BlinkyBill> :)
[01:27:20] <Natalie> Most of my job is ripping through the previous code, and trying to infer the structure behind.
[01:28:17] <Natalie> I've made so many changes where now it does exactly the same thing it was doing before, but now it's doing it /right/.
[01:29:19] <BlinkyBill> Excellent! That's a very satisfying feeling.
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[01:29:40] <BlinkyBill> Better than the alternative, where you struggle to put humpty dumpty back together again
[01:30:13] <Natalie> I remember looking through code on this one timecard project. It had a "nextWeek()" function. I was baffled why it was advancing through the week by adding 6 days to the current date.
[01:30:43] <Natalie> I could not figure out how it was working properly. Turns out, that function wasn't being called by anything. They were just manually adding 7 days somewhere else.
[01:30:55] <Ownix> ha
[01:31:05] <BlinkyBill> haha, that's awesome
[01:31:15] <Ownix> yeah, I dont think theres anyone here who doesn't look back at their code after a few months and grimace
[01:31:36] <BlinkyBill> Ownix, +1
[01:31:45] * Natalie admits to nothing.
[01:31:57] <Guest16681> lol
[01:32:00] <BlinkyBill> The whole "What on earth was I thinking" thing
[01:32:07] <Guest16681> hows that angular conversion goin
[01:32:41] <Ownix> Guest16681: you arent floored when discussing angular?
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[01:33:12] <Guest16681> huh
[01:33:26] <Ownix> BlinkyBill: I do like how Angular abstracts out the Webpack stuff for me, its a lot of time saved not having to do all that myself. But its extra magic
[01:33:39] <Ownix> Most peoples main complains of Ng vs Vue/React is "too much magic"
[01:33:53] <Guest16681> vue sux
[01:34:00] <Guest16681> its a ripoff
[01:34:15] <Guest16681> react is just too messy for business
[01:35:09] <Guest16681> u guys dont really buy vue do u
[01:35:27] <BlinkyBill> Ownix, you're not kidding. I have very specific build processes with older projects, and when I started with new Angular, I tried implementing my own build to replace the magic. In a moment of clarity though, I realised that every other platform I develop on, has mountains of magic going on, and no-one cares, just chose to embrace it. Now I love it, a whole area I don't have to care about anymore.
[01:35:57] <Guest16681> yeah dont try to replace angular-cli
[01:36:06] <BlinkyBill> or webpack
[01:36:15] <Guest16681> webpack is great
[01:36:31] <Guest16681> angular-cli infact is webpack
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[01:36:42] <Guest16681> w some extra shit
[01:36:55] <BlinkyBill> I spent a couple of days thinking "this webpack is just silly", then I understood what it actually did. Wow!
[01:37:20] <Guest16681> it packs ur web
[01:37:25] <Guest16681> duh
[01:37:34] <Natalie> webpacker
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[08:02:26] <icebox> hey folks
[08:04:55] <Natalie> Yo
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[08:08:48] <icebox> Natalie: hey
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[08:23:02] <jetWhidbey> Hi! I am having a custom filter in a template, anyone here who may have some ideas on how to fix it?
[08:23:29] <BlinkyBill> what's the issue jetWhidbey
[08:23:35] <BlinkyBill> and which version of Angular?
[08:23:52] <jetWhidbey> v.1.6.4.
[08:24:22] <jetWhidbey> not able to get value of evaluated expression when it is piped to my filter.
[08:24:38] <jetWhidbey> ...also, have not used IRC in a while, what is best method to put up a snippet?
[08:24:53] <jetWhidbey> gist link?
[08:25:12] <BlinkyBill> yes, gist or plunkr :)
[08:25:46] <BlinkyBill> I'm only here for another five minutes, but hopefully someone else can help
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[08:29:38] <icebox> jetWhidbey: when we say plunaker or stackblitz, we mean a minimal working plunker reproducing your issue... that plunker you provided doesn't work
[08:29:53] <icebox> jetWhidbey: it is only a copy and paste of your code
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[08:30:24] <icebox> jetWhidbey: if you provide a plunker or a stackblitz, we may give a look at it
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[08:31:11] <icebox> jetWhidbey: if you are not a fed or you have been working for the Agency :)
[08:31:16] <jetWhidbey> ...just trying to do something quick, I can't really get something resembling working in a minute or 2.
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[08:31:41] <BlinkyBill> jetWhidbey, you've got the right idea of using the angular template. Just strip out all the other stuff, and show how you're using it. As in make it so that the plunkr whould work, then we can *make it work* , hopefully :D
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[08:31:50] <icebox> jetWhidbey: no problem
[08:31:51] <jetWhidbey> yup, copy and paste icebox
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<icebox> jetWhidbey: no plunker (or stackblitz), no party... see the rules in the topic - http://ngirc.js.org
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[08:34:39] <icebox> jetWhidbey: without a description of the expected and the actual with a minimal working example reproducing your use case, we can stay for hours
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[08:34:48] <icebox> *we can stay here for hours
[08:35:27] <icebox> "resistance is futile" :)
[08:36:21] <jetWhidbey> ...well minimal working example would require a database, active record and such.
[08:37:08] <icebox> jetWhidbey: nah
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[08:37:29] <icebox> jetWhidbey: if your problem is the filter, you need only ten lines to reproduce it :)
[08:37:47] <icebox> jetWhidbey: take your time to narrow the code
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[08:39:35] <icebox> jetWhidbey: and if you think your filter is working, because you debug it, but the template is not updated, I am afraid the problem is in the updating scope... maybe your broke the reference... but it is only a guess without any plunker or stackblitz
[08:39:48] <icebox> *maybe you broke
[08:41:15] <icebox> jetWhidbey: yesterday we tried to help a user with no stackblitz provided... just only to find it was a typo problem: wasted almost three hours... and it happens quite often... so, please, you want to get better help, provide a stacklitz... template in the topic
[08:42:40] <jetWhidbey> Ok, I'm letting go of this for now, try another time when I am a bit more awake.
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[08:42:59] <icebox> jetWhidbey: no problem... we are here :)
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[09:02:01] <Magnumes> good morning ;]
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[09:05:26] <icebox> Magnumes: hey
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[09:08:48] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
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[09:10:28] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hey
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[09:24:54] <iateadonut> hi. do you think angularjs 2 is the best framework for compiling a website into an android/ios app, or are there better frameworks?
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[09:27:02] <icebox> iateadonut: no... you should use native apps
[09:28:12] <icebox> iateadonut: (and angularjs 2 doesn't exist) angularjs is 1.x and angular is 2.x higher... latest version is 5.2.9
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[09:30:34] <icebox> iateadonut: and your team should choose a mobile architecture based on business and integration requirements, not on a frontend framework... that is a tiny technical detail compared with the rest
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[09:31:30] <icebox> said that, native or hybrid apps are a very opinionated topic
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[09:42:46] <Pyrrhus666> oh god, not more rxjs misery please... I think I´m gonna do a test with 6rc0 to see what will break...
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[10:11:22] <ray02> hello hello
[10:11:28] <ray02> morning
[10:11:30] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
[10:11:39] <mursu> hello
[10:12:08] <ray02> OT: yesterday i discovered this, may be could be usefull for some one esle
[10:12:43] <ray02> it's an archive of article about angular
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[10:13:00] <ray02> and you can sort it by topic
[10:13:44] <Pyrrhus666> could be handy, but at first glance there´s a ton of stuff that´s hopelessly outdated. be careful what you read ;)
[10:13:57] <ray02> yes it's true
[10:14:16] <ray02> i have notice this morning
[10:14:33] <ray02> but could be usefull for get some concept
[10:14:49] <ray02> ,i think, i don't know
[10:15:17] <Pyrrhus666> trying ng at 6 dot 0.0rc0 : everything breaks on rxjs (either 6beta or 5.6-forward-compat)... I think I´m gonna sit this one out
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[10:25:44] <SargoDarya> Morning folks
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[10:25:57] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya
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[10:28:40] <ray02> morning SargoDarya
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[10:29:00] <SargoDarya> Friday is approaching, how's the mood?
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[10:31:31] <Pyrrhus666> kind of sucky, ´cause it´s still thursday ;)
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[10:45:32] <ray02> i'm happy
[10:45:39] <ray02> it's a good day here
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[10:46:51] <SargoDarya> Same here
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[10:47:25] <ray02> yesterday i had a formation about TDD
[10:47:37] <ray02> but my other collegues wasn't very interessed
[10:47:55] <SargoDarya> Yea, TDD isn't everyones beer.
[10:48:00] <ray02> it's a little bit sad
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[10:59:21] <Elarcis> Yoo…
[11:00:15] <Pyrrhus6661> morning Elarcis
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[11:00:36] <SargoDarya> Morning mate, dreamt of unreal things?
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[11:01:12] <Magnumes> Pyrrhus6661: Do u remember my problem with scrollbars? ;d
[11:01:16] <ray02> hello hello Elarcis
[11:01:34] <Pyrrhus6661> Magnumes, yes, sort of :)
[11:02:12] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: I wish
[11:05:16] <Magnumes> scroll in scroll ;<
[11:05:35] <Magnumes> overlap here
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[11:12:00] <icebox> ray02, SargoDarya: hey
[11:12:32] <Magnumes> Guys, any ideas?
[11:12:37] <Pyrrhus6661> Magnumes, I´m nog seeing 2 scrollbars on the mac image ?
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[11:13:15] <Pyrrhus6661> Magnumes, ah, you mean the actual scrollbars overlap... looks like a bug to me.
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[11:14:05] <Magnumes> Then why on all browser for windows works good only on mac is bug?
[11:14:10] <Pyrrhus6661> Magnumes, are that floating scrollbars (the kind that auto-hides) ?
[11:14:30] <Pyrrhus6661> safari or chrome ?
[11:15:32] <Magnumes> safari or chrome where?
[11:15:38] <Magnumes> chrome windows
[11:15:38] <Pyrrhus6661> on mac
[11:15:49] <Magnumes> hmm she say chrome
[11:16:13] <Pyrrhus6661> could well be. for me this would be a WONTFIX anyway.
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[11:17:55] <Magnumes> What's mean WONTFIX?
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[11:18:08] <Elarcis> Magnumes: "Won’t fix"
[11:18:25] <Pyrrhus6661> Magnumes, it´s a status generally given to a bug-report, meaning the devs are not going to fix that.
[11:19:16] <Magnumes> how to explain to them that i can not fix it?
[11:20:14] <ray02> hey hey icebox
[11:20:31] <icebox> Pyrrhus6661: great roadmap for FF
[11:20:56] <icebox> Pyrrhus6661: very glad of the switch
[11:21:07] <Pyrrhus6661> icebox, good to hear :)
[11:21:47] <Pyrrhus6661> Magnumes, maybe it could be fixed, with some css hacks or whatnot, it might not be impossible.
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[11:24:01] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: sadly the feature was aborted
[11:24:45] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: need to try another way to contribute :)
[11:25:06] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, never heard of it. but ff14 was, uh, a while ago :)
[11:25:29] <Pyrrhus666> maybe I was still on seamonkey in those days
[11:25:48] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: it was a (great) attempt to create a human interface for the address bar
[11:26:29] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, ah, ok. I still think in urls, so the history matching the bar does is excellent for me :)
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[11:28:15] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I contributed the finance "verbs"
[11:29:31] <Elarcis> icebox: niiiice
[11:30:47] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, a lot of it is now ddg bangs :)
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[11:44:07] <Pyrrhus666> riotz, because if you remove it, you can´t use the checkbox anymore. I guess the click and change events are mutually exclusive
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[11:48:26] <icebox> DieguezZ: did you try that workaround?
[11:48:58] <icebox> DieguezZ: or your question is about how you apply it
[11:49:04] <riotz> hmm.. weird.. my local app behaves completely different then the stackblitz example
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[11:51:51] <Pyrrhus666> riotz, maybe your event handling is just different ?
[11:52:37] <riotz> ive just a sorting table with filter.. maybe thats the reason
[11:52:42] <riotz> just got
[11:55:36] <Pyrrhus666> riotz, and in your case, the row itself also acts as a toggle ? because I think that´s related to the stopPropagation on the checkbox itself
[11:55:55] <Pyrrhus666> (if propagated, it would toggle twice, so nothing would happen)
[11:56:37] <riotz> yeah its a toogle but i change the SelectionModel to new SelectionModel<Task>(false, []); and removed the select all feature from the header
[11:57:15] <Pyrrhus666> riotz, that´s beyond me, I just played with the stackblitz, no experience with material ;)
[11:58:14] <DieguezZ> icebox which workaround? they comment various options, but mostly sure i tried
[11:58:48] <ray02> is it possible that, the same website on the same machine on firefox developer and on firefox looks different?
[11:59:03] <icebox> DieguezZ: that pointed from your link :)
[11:59:16] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, if the versions differ, or some preferences, yes
[11:59:40] <DieguezZ> icebox lol sorry i didnt realise i was taking the comment, i ment the full thread. Anyway, yes. i tried
[11:59:55] <ray02> the developer is 60 and the other is just updated at the 58
[12:00:22] <icebox> DieguezZ: generally speaking, that bug was also in materaljs (material 1)... for many reasons I don't use material(js) anymore
[12:00:27] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, that could explain something.
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[12:00:47] <DieguezZ> mmm, its interesting icebox but i am using material 5.1.0
[12:00:50] <Pyrrhus666> 58 is the old renderer (gecko), 60 is the new one
[12:01:16] <DieguezZ> anyway in these time they didnt manage to make it work fine
[12:01:18] <icebox> DieguezZ: yep... understood that... it is my opinion baout that framework
[12:01:31] <icebox> DieguezZ: agreed
[12:01:39] <DieguezZ> yeah icebox i also tried to not use it.. :(
[12:01:45] <icebox> :P
[12:02:20] <DieguezZ> its amazing, such a trendy thing working so bad...
[12:02:21] <icebox> DieguezZ: that depends on the requirements... it is not so easy to change a widget framework
[12:02:33] <icebox> off for a break... see you later
[12:03:48] <DieguezZ> cya!
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[12:53:00] <sanjay> Hi, I want to run angular 5 by using F5
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[12:53:11] <sanjay> Is there any way to do that
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[13:02:56] <Elarcis> Well, press F5 on an Angular 5 website, duh!
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[13:03:22] <zomg> that question kind of confuses me :P
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[13:08:17] <SargoDarya> Wat.
[13:08:39] <SargoDarya> document.addEventListener('keydown', (evt) => {})
[13:08:52] <SargoDarya> Assign F5 there and then run angular bootstrapping xD
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[13:15:52] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: ooh, I suspect they were asking for either VS or VSCode config
[13:16:08] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: like when you do F5 it starts debugging
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[13:33:14] <max_at> hello :)
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[13:37:51] <Pyrrhus666> hi max_at
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[13:40:55] <icebox> back
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[13:41:51] <icebox> you cannot us a twister F5 to run angular 5 ;)
[13:41:54] <icebox> *use
[13:42:28] <Pyrrhus666> I bet you could with a freedom fighter though :P
[13:43:29] <icebox> :P
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[13:51:47] <Tresco> hi all
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[13:52:28] <SargoDarya> Hi Tresco
[13:52:38] <Pyrrhus666> hi Tresco
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[13:53:44] <icebox> Tresco: hey
[13:53:47] <Tresco> Where I need to put bottom body scripts on angular, I mean better way than on index.html
[13:54:34] <Pyrrhus666> Tresco, angular (>=2.x) or angularjs (1.x)
[13:54:59] <Pyrrhus666> because in angular, you normally don´t do that yourself.
[13:55:06] <Tresco> 5
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[13:56:35] <Tresco> works fine on body index position but is a better way to do this
[13:56:42] <Pyrrhus666> Tresco, I guess you should add them to you template index.html (assuming you use ng-cli)
[13:59:22] <Tresco> yes, i do that and works fine, but i read about this method.... is not a good idea, and i try to put in component but don't works
[14:00:04] <Elarcis> Tresco: where did you read that?
[14:00:10] <Elarcis> Tresco: why is it not a good idea?
[14:00:12] <Tresco> problem is .. the script need to "load" after all page loding
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[14:00:29] <Tresco> on net
[14:00:52] <Elarcis> Tresco: put it first and the page stops loading until the script is loaded. You have a choice to make.
[14:00:52] <Tresco> im a noob all cats ar white for me :))
[14:01:21] <Elarcis> Tresco: you can’t escape asynchronism, there is always a trade off.
[14:01:55] <Elarcis> if it works fine, it works fine
[14:02:04] <Tresco> ok ty
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[14:08:45] <Tresco> is better if i make a js file with this script and add this file on angular-cli.json at the end of all js files?
[14:09:48] <Pyrrhus666> can you even configure that from angular-cli.json ?
[14:10:17] <Tresco> sry?
[14:11:07] <Pyrrhus666> can you configure the scripts to be added to your page from angular-cli.json ? I wouldn´t think so, but I never tried...
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[14:11:50] <Tresco> yes i dev this app ... or i try :)
[14:12:05] <Tresco> I have access to cli
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[14:18:09] <Tresco> yes ... in scripts section
[14:18:48] <Tresco> but js is "local" not a npm pack
[14:19:00] <Pyrrhus666> that´s no problem is it ?
[14:20:03] <Tresco> idk
[14:21:02] <Tresco> i use cli only to load js from npm pack
[14:21:47] <Pyrrhus666> just point the entry in angular-cli.json to where the script is, it doesn´t matter if it´s in node_modules or not.
[14:21:50] <Tresco> angular-cli.json
[14:22:16] <Tresco> i give a try
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[14:25:59] <jlebrech> this is gonna be the best angularjs app, 3 years late but..
[14:26:31] <Tresco> ty for the link Pyrrhus666 ... is very useful
[14:27:21] <Pyrrhus666> Tresco, you´re welcome ;)
[14:29:23] <icebox> jlebrech: the best app is always the last one :)
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[14:30:08] <Elarcis> icebox: the latest. sometimes, the last app is the worst.
[14:30:31] <icebox> I meant, the last one :)
[14:31:02] <icebox> because you cannot hear or read the comments
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[15:05:07] * jlebrech headdesks
[15:05:23] <SargoDarya> wat.
[15:05:28] <jlebrech> that comment
[15:05:30] <jlebrech> urg
[15:05:32] <Elarcis> icebox: reminds me a bit of the python/c interop problematic
[15:05:41] <Elarcis> what comment?
[15:05:50] <jlebrech> from icebox
[15:05:57] <jlebrech> the mozilla one
[15:05:58] <Pyrrhus666> jlebrech, I like that dry humor :)
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[15:06:06] <icebox> Elarcis: I pointed out it for you because that premise is valid also with that project involving C#
[15:06:13] <Elarcis> ah
[15:06:21] <Elarcis> icebox: it seems like it is, yes
[15:06:27] <jlebrech> that last thing wasm needs is javascript developer ;)
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[15:07:06] <Pyrrhus666> wasm needs some insanely brutal exploits so it will die.
[15:08:21] <Elarcis> wasm needs more wasps.
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[15:09:05] <Pyrrhus666> more buzz, always good
[15:09:18] <icebox> import { myFunction } from "myModules.wasm"; // "We’re working with TC39 and the WebAssembly community group to standardize this."
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[15:10:13] <Pyrrhus666> native support for import { cheapStuff } from ´china´; // would be cool
[15:10:47] <Pyrrhus666> sorry, grumpy af since everything I do in stackblitz works, but locally it won´t
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[15:33:29] <Pyrrhus666> ¨hey, that´s haskell¨ :)
[15:35:35] <icebox> :P
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[15:39:37] <icebox> maybe js is a hack, but it is the best tradeoff we have :P
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[15:42:02] <icebox> :P
[15:44:19] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, similar, I guess ? I´m missing your point :_
[15:44:33] <Elarcis> never learned Rust
[15:44:44] <Elarcis> but again, never had any pet project I could do in Rust
[15:44:45] <Elarcis> :P
[15:44:57] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: Rust is more verbose with lots of symbols
[15:45:25] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: my point is :>{foo}
[15:45:28] <icebox> :P
[15:45:34] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, meh, I look through that and see similar code, albeit with types in rust
[15:45:43] <Elarcis> it’s funny how even when not knowing the language, you recognize decorators, classes and functions
[15:45:55] <Elarcis> it just pops
[15:45:56] <Elarcis> out
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<Tazmain> HI all, I am trying to figure out how this select , triggers a call to the webserver, https://bpaste.net/show/1bee016a3cd1 it seems the url section does something ?
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[15:48:27] <icebox> Tazmain: I think so... give a look at the directive unique-Fieldset
[15:49:18] <Elarcis> great coherent naming by the way
[15:50:06] <Tazmain> icebox: yeah very weird way they did this it seems to me
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[15:57:33] <Tazmain> hmm I can't find any docs on unique-Fieldset
[15:57:47] <Tazmain> unless my google results are sewed again
[15:58:16] <Tazmain> no.... could this be jQuery ?
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[16:01:10] <icebox> Tazmain: it is your code :)
[16:06:33] <icebox> *John
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[16:13:35] <Elarcis> I’m tired of being shocked by everything
[16:13:41] <Elarcis> I have A LOT of potential.
[16:13:52] <icebox> I confirm it
[16:14:05] <Elarcis> :P
[16:14:11] <Pyrrhus666> so, after hours of repeatedly banging my head on my desk, I find the error... my http interceptor, designed to catch 401´s and redirect, failed to return any other error, effectively blocking any error-handling I was trying to accomplish... sigh...
[16:14:12] <icebox> shall we call the press?
[16:14:36] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ah... indeed sigh
[16:14:40] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: well that interceptor worked too well.
[16:14:52] <Pyrrhus666> INTERCEPT ALL THE THINGS !!!11!!one
[16:15:00] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: fixed?
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[16:17:17] <Sam____> hi everyone
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[16:18:29] <Sam____> question on AngularJS, @Html.Raw(Html.AttributeEncode(Model)) is that best practice after Json Serializing a C# class and sending it over as a model to the html?
[16:18:54] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, dead easy if you finally find the fault : add a return handle.next()
[16:21:18] <Anticom> How can i get the status of a checkbox in a change event binding?
[16:21:26] <Anticom> or is there an even more elegant way other than change
[16:21:40] <Elarcis> Sam____: heh?
[16:22:15] <Elarcis> Sam____: as long as the result is valid JS, Angular will go with it? I’m not sure what you’re asking for. Not familiar with ASP.
[16:22:35] <Sam____> Elacris, indeed I'm using .Net
[16:22:54] <Sam____> when I JSON serialized the class with data
[16:23:04] <Sam____> for example the the JSON properites will have " "
[16:23:10] <Sam____> html doesn't like it
[16:23:20] <Sam____> so it won't go into ng-repeat for example
[16:23:25] <Elarcis> Sam____: slow down. you hawe multiple problems.
[16:23:46] <Sam____> so I have to use @Html.Raw(Html.AttributeEncode(Model)) to make it work
[16:24:08] <Sam____> I'm just asking if that's what most ppl do as best practice
[16:25:13] <Elarcis> Sam____: it’s terrible. Best practice is to totally decouple the AngularJS front-end and the ASP.NET backend and get data through http calls, because AngularJS is a SPA framework rather than a widget lib
[16:25:37] <Elarcis> Sam____: since I don’t suppose you’re going to rewrite your whole razor into a SPA, as long as it gets the job done…
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[16:26:54] <Sam____> So if we are using IIS and .NET as a platform for development
[16:27:03] <Sam____> how best to decouple it
[16:27:07] <Elarcis> Sam____: best practice is to reduce the entry points to AngularJS to a minimum, via components, config() blocks etc.
[16:28:38] <Booster2ooo> Sam____, what do you mean by "for example the the JSON properites will have " " html doesn't like it"
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[16:28:56] <Elarcis> Sam____: of course I only speak for myself, but you’d have a single ASP template that makes your index.html, the rest would be AngularJS components. All your data would then be accessible through C# web services, with matching AngularJS services in your front-end’s "data access layer".
[16:29:14] <icebox> Sam____: var JsonModel = ' at Html dot Raw(Json.Encode(@Model))'; ... var model = JSON.parse(JsonModel);
[16:29:48] <Elarcis> Sam____: initial app config could be done through writing constants in a script block in your root Razor page, later catched by an AngularJS constant.
[16:29:56] <icebox> Booster2ooo: because they render the output as html
[16:29:56] <Booster2ooo> Stahp
[16:30:15] <icebox> Booster2ooo: and that is wrong :)
[16:30:17] <Booster2ooo> why would you rendrer html for an angular app to consume
[16:30:19] <Sam____> hi Elarcis so I'm assuming in Visual Studio creating an empty web project - not an ASP.NET MVC project and trying to mix and match, that approach?
[16:30:26] <Booster2ooo> the asp controller should return JSON
[16:30:29] <Elarcis> Sam____: no
[16:30:30] <Booster2ooo> not html
[16:31:17] <Booster2ooo> which version of asp .net mvc do you use Sam____
[16:31:25] <Elarcis> Sam____: you could totally create an ASP.NET MVC project, but since AngularJS is a SPA framework, that means it shines at reducing page changes, you wouldn’t have to use Razor templates as much as a typical ASP app.
[16:31:37] <Elarcis> Sam____: any other API provided by ASP would be good to use
[16:32:29] <Sam____> Booster2ooo: template 4.5.2
[16:32:37] <Elarcis> Sam____: there are plenty of tutorials on the web on how best to structure an AngularJS (or even Angular) front-end around an ASP.NET back-end, I’ll let you look them up :)
[16:33:25] <Booster2ooo> Sam____> there is not "template" in MVC version ...
[16:33:27] <Sam____> ok Elarcis I guess I'll have to find them lol thanks, however that question I asked from the beginning comes from such type of tutorial haha
[16:33:50] <Booster2ooo> Check JsonResult
[16:33:58] <Elarcis> Sam____: be careful reading at modern and recent templates, at least AngularJS 1.5.
[16:34:12] <Sam____> booster, when I go to create new project, MVC, on top it says thats the ASP template version
[16:34:20] <Elarcis> Sam____: the framework evolved a lot, and tutorials for old versions don’t make much sense now
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[16:34:34] <Sam____> ah I see Elarcis
[16:35:06] <Sam____> Elarcis any you recommend for AngularJS, that i what me and my group are trying to do (I know Angular is probably better but we didn't get to choose!)
[16:36:02] <icebox> off in a few minutes
[16:36:21] <Elarcis> Sam____: I don’t have any right now, I just remember finding them. Look for tutorials written no older than 2015-16.
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[16:37:48] <Sam____> elacris you may be on to something, this one is from 2013 lol
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<Elarcis> Sam____: my personal advice: forget back-end for a short while, use this tutorial to familiarize with the most recent concepts and best practices https://docs.angularjs.org/tutorial
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[16:39:48] <Booster2ooo> Sam____ : I don't know about the architecture of your project and your environment is unclear but if you want to expose an action from your controller that returns JSON, just like a restful API, you should'nt return View(); and try to output JSON in the view but return the proper response eaither by using JsonResponse or return Content( body, 'application/json');
[16:39:59] <Elarcis> Sam____: then use your knowledge to initialize your index.html through ASP.NET MVC, and use ASP controllers for communicating with the back-end.
[16:40:30] <Elarcis> Sam____: it’ll be easier learning basic front-end first imho
[16:41:35] <Elarcis> Sam____: (bonus point if you use the ASP.NET bundling mechanism to generate the script tags)
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[16:43:06] <Sam____> Hi Elacris it's a school project, we are using Visual Studio 2015, and we just have to create any app
[16:43:18] <Sam____> backend is Sql Server
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[16:47:18] <Elarcis> they left…
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[16:48:53] <Booster2ooo> indeed -_-
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[20:26:09] <Angularjs_suck> hello
[20:27:41] <Angularjs_suck> I am work with angularjs Ajax for sending my data but I get this error in console
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<Angularjs_suck> Possibly unhandled rejection: {"data":"<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\"?>\r\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN\"\r\n \"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd\">\r\n<html xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml\" lang=\"en\" xml:lang=\"en\">\r\n<head>\r\n<title>Object not found!</title>\r\n<link rev=\"made\" href=\"mailto:postmaster@localhost\" />\r\n<style type=\"text/css\"><!--/*--><!
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[21:10:04] <Angularjs_suck> I work with angularjs and ajax I get this error Angularjs ajax request failed with status 404
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[21:22:38] <zzing> If I have a component that represents a tab's content, and it contains a d3 chart (so it has 'external' content) what is the best way to notify the component it should rerender?
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[21:23:31] <BlinkyBill_> good morning.
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