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[01:19:53] <l30p4l[m]> Hi guys, can you recommend some (free) wysiwyg for angular 2????
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[02:25:42] <BlinkyBill_> l30p4l[m], as in to design forms? I don't know that such a thing exists.
[02:26:08] <BlinkyBill_> You could grab a plunkr template for angular 2+_ and use that for immediate feedback.
[02:26:14] <BlinkyBill_> I guess
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[04:28:03] <haweh> I am trying to figure out how to get select to create a menu based on my JSON. Yet I have no idea why it's not working. This is the html: <div class="col-md-12"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="row"> <div> <h1> Create new Employee</h1> <p>Enter information, and click buttion</p> <dl class="dl-horizontal"> <div class="form-group form-control-lg"> <form> <table> <tr> <td align="right"><b>First Name</b></td>
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[04:52:33] <BlinkyBill_> gone in 60 seconds?
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[08:30:27] <Magnumes> good morning ;]
[08:31:39] <icebox> Magnumes: hey
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[08:35:35] <Elarcis> Yoo
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[08:40:34] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
[08:42:04] <Magnumes> Elarcis: yo
[08:43:24] <Elarcis> OT: Dunno if you’ve ever seen Toggl’s background videos, but they are hilarious https://www.toggl.com/
[08:44:38] <icebox> nice ones :)
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[08:59:16] <icebox> OT: Don’t be a Junior Developer - https://hackernoon.com/dont-be-a-junior-developer-608c255b3056
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[09:06:09] <anli> I am calling a scope function from the outside of the controller, it seems that function cannot access the $http variable, why?
[09:06:52] <anli> It seems my javascript knowledge must be updated.
[09:07:06] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
[09:07:12] <anli> morning
[09:07:25] <icebox> anli, Pyrrhus666: hey
[09:07:59] <icebox> anli: because di works only in angularjs realm?
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[09:09:07] <icebox> anli: you need a controller (or a service, a component, generally speaking a provider) to inject that service... only the scope is not enough
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[09:10:00] <icebox> anli: to harmonize your "external world" and "angularjs" one you need to develop an architecture supporting that feature
[09:11:30] <anli> It seems angularjs gives me the possibility to get the scope object outside the controller, but I am not clear what I can do with it.
[09:12:03] <icebox> anli: apart it is an anti-pattern, the scope is the scope :)
[09:12:16] <anli> Yes, it is an anti-pattern, I know
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[09:12:40] <anli> angularjs hands out that anti-pattern possibility
[09:12:41] <icebox> anli: if you don't know what you can do with it, you have two problems... style and "scope" :)
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[09:15:31] <icebox> anli: any stackblitz showing what you are trying for?
[09:15:59] <anli> I go for broadcast, maybe we can close my ticket ;)
[09:16:53] <icebox> no idea because you use angularjs :)
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[09:25:06] <anli> I found a way of doing this all within the scope
[09:25:14] <anli> No hacks
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[09:29:18] <Elarcis> anli: all $http calls and generally all reusable logic should be put in services so you don’t have to rely on accessing controllers from the outside :)
[09:29:20] <icebox> anli: https://stackblitz.com/edit/angularjs-irc-starter-spkk2g?file=hello/hello.component.js in $onInit see how to get scope and injector
[09:29:34] <ray02> hey hey
[09:29:38] <ray02> good morning
[09:29:54] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
[09:29:57] <icebox> ray02: hey
[09:30:26] <icebox> anli: any solution you found, outside angularjs realm, is an hack by design :)
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[09:32:28] <icebox> anli: the only way to tamper the scope and the di parts in angularjs is how I showed you in the snippet above... and it is a hack :)
[09:32:43] <icebox> even if I am using angular api surface
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[09:39:55] <anli> icebox: I understand nil of the code you linked me to
[09:40:07] <icebox> anli: cool :)
[09:40:07] <anli> I never use import or export in any js I am writing.
[09:40:16] <anli> :)
[09:40:42] <icebox> anli: the point is the lines, you read in $onInit, may be in anyb other part of your code, angularjs or not
[09:41:12] <icebox> anli: the stackblitz template is based on the modern best practices and for your use case you can ignore them
[09:41:38] <anli> Well, it was not that hard, reading it again, angular.injector is another hack provider then
[09:41:47] <icebox> exactly
[09:41:52] <anli> thx
[09:42:01] <anli> I do not need it right now, but its good to know
[09:42:50] <anli> Are import and export keywords that any modern browser honors?
[09:42:53] <icebox> behind the scene, angularjs implements the observer pattern and the service locator... and automagically it works :)
[09:43:24] <icebox> anli: yep... when the upcoming FF 60 will be published
[09:43:34] <anli> So that means no :)
[09:44:02] <icebox> anli: in four weeks, yes
[09:44:30] <icebox> anli: and generally speaking, in the meantime, you should use a bundler :)
[09:44:37] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, what´s ff 60 bringing ?
[09:44:48] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: type module support
[09:45:06] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, ah, so I assume you´re pleased ;)
[09:45:11] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: a lot :)
[09:45:41] <Pyrrhus666> apart from the fact that an app will do a zillion requests on startup ;)
[09:45:45] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: it seems 59 understands "import", but not type="module"
[09:46:01] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... I tried that in the weekend
[09:46:12] <icebox> just to see the result
[09:46:19] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, ah, ok. haven´t experimented with it.
[09:46:24] <icebox> I think I hold the bundling step :)
[09:46:30] <Pyrrhus666> and yes, I read your stuff on monday ;)
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[09:49:03] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: as Elarcis said, with http/2 that use case is a bit mitigated, but it is not a real game changer
[09:50:11] <icebox> maybe I will change from import ... from "./foo" to import ... from "./foo.js" just to be more compliant to the standard... even if it is a bit ugly
[09:50:46] <Elarcis> icebox: can a bundler be configured like that?
[09:50:58] <Elarcis> icebox: to require the extension?
[09:51:04] <icebox> Elarcis: it is transparent for the bundler
[09:51:11] <icebox> Elarcis: with or without extension
[09:51:16] <Elarcis> icebox: ok
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[09:52:36] <icebox> Elarcis: indeed you can see vendor imports and user ones... if the url is relative or not... import ... from "d3" or import ... from "../../util"
[09:53:10] <icebox> this is my definitive guide https://jakearchibald.com/2017/es-modules-in-browsers/
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[09:54:02] <icebox> there is explained the loading order, an important detail if you mix modules (async loaded) and global scripts
[09:57:08] <icebox> as follow-up about angularjs thoughts of the past days, I think the implicit beauty of angularjs is porting typically backend patterns to the frontend
[09:57:22] <icebox> by design
[09:57:41] <icebox> indeed angular is more a "frontend" framework
[09:57:55] <Elarcis> icebox: yup… dependency injection truly is awesome.
[09:58:04] <Elarcis> icebox: though often misunderstood
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[10:00:55] <icebox> Elarcis: because di is perceived as container state management (in terms of global objects) and as js module replacement (in terms of encapsulation)
[10:01:45] <icebox> but it is "only" the glue behind the components (in terms of parts) of angularjs app
[10:04:01] <BOAN[N]> hi all little question what is the difrents between the angularjs.org and IO than only using TypeScript; the reson is a cant typescript, so a use now angularjs 1.6
[10:04:50] <Pyrrhus666> angularjs.org is for 1.x, angular.io for >= 2.x
[10:05:12] <Pyrrhus666> hence we call 1.x ´angularjs´ and >=2.x ´angular´
[10:05:40] <icebox> Elarcis: really I don't like angularjs compiler, because it is the "original" sin in my humble opinion... the weak ring of the chain where there are all the tradeoffs of the framework... anyway we can see Ember, as angularjs without a compiler, hadn't a lot of success :)
[10:06:07] <Elarcis> ^
[10:06:24] <icebox> BOAN[N]: and generally speaking you can use ts with angularjs
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[10:07:36] <Elarcis> BOAN[N]: they are two different framework, angularjs is lighter, simpler and older, Angular is more recent, more involved but provides better tooling.
[10:07:39] <icebox> Elarcis: basically decorative approach vs. declarative one... and decorating html won
[10:08:52] <icebox> BOAN[N]: and don't forget https://blog.angular.io/stable-angularjs-and-long-term-support-7e077635ee9c
[10:09:30] <BOAN[N]> i don`t know typescripting; a have look for example alrady for cdn on angeler 2.X but a cant find
[10:09:57] <icebox> BOAN[N]: sorry? there are tons of examples :)
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[10:11:14] <BOAN[N]> and do i need ts or can a use the standart examples, i lurn Anguler for just i monthe
[10:11:47] <BOAN[N]> i do the tutorial Lear Angular in your browser for free
[10:12:15] <icebox> BOAN[N]: yes, you can
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[10:16:47] <Pyrrhus666> OT : apparently the FTC is going to investigate the FB/CA thing, and the theoretically maximum penalty if found guilty is 180000000000000 dollars.
[10:17:26] <Pyrrhus666> (40000 per user per day, 50 million users, 3 months)
[10:17:47] <selckin> didn't everyone agree they could do that in ToS
[10:18:17] <Pyrrhus666> not this, apparently.
[10:18:31] <selckin> amazing maybe there is some hope
[10:18:40] <jlebrech> Pyrrhus666: does that mean fb will be government property?
[10:18:47] <Pyrrhus666> I like the term ´weaponized data´...
[10:19:27] <Pyrrhus666> jlebrech, nah. the fine is a theoretical max, it won´t fly.
[10:19:32] <selckin> lost interest when so many of the random things i saw where people being surpised facebook can read all their posts
[10:20:19] <jlebrech> Pyrrhus666: truth has always been weaponised data, so have lies.
[10:20:33] <jlebrech> I think truth is more dangerous.
[10:20:50] <Pyrrhus666> jlebrech, true, but in this case it´s much more sneaky
[10:21:52] <Elarcis> selckin: heh. People give you the keys in a shrug, then when they get burgled they are shocked to discover you had the keys.
[10:22:55] <Elarcis> selckin: not to say that I ever burgled a friend who gave me the keys to care for his cats while he was in vacations.
[10:23:09] <Elarcis> selckin: I don’t do stuff like that. Obviously.
[10:23:13] <selckin> no, but you open some closests and cabinets, its normal :)
[10:23:58] <Elarcis> selckin: yeah, if I happen to stumble upon some valuable things, I only make sure they are safe somewhere else!
[10:24:27] <selckin> everyone will snoop around a bit, stealing is a bit far
[10:25:30] <icebox> reading about Christopher Wylie's story... and apart data-gate issue... I always surprise how the companies manipulate the employers... all starts when he was 20 years old... anyway in 2018, when you are 20 years old, you cannot state I didn't know if it was legal or not... come on
[10:26:03] <icebox> *in 2018, when you are 28 years old
[10:26:20] <Peppa_Swine> REPTILIAN COLD BLOODED BEHAVIOUR
[10:27:05] <selckin> if its compartmentalised enough, can be hard to see the big picture
[10:27:41] <Pyrrhus666> from wiley´s interview : ¨he (Wiley) was the gay Canadian vegan who somehow ended up creating “Steve Bannon’s psychological warfare mindfuck tool”.¨
[10:27:50] <Pyrrhus666> hilarious...
[10:28:12] <icebox> selckin: no... you can hide the big picture, but there are a few single actions it is impossible to state they are "legal" or at least "correct"
[10:28:43] <SargoDarya> Helloooooo
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[10:29:31] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya
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[10:29:56] <BOAN[N]> sorry, i found the new tutorial about angular 5
[10:29:57] <icebox> selckin: working in a bank I need to ask it myself many times per day... so I don't believe you can hide yourself behind a simple "well, I didn't know it"
[10:30:06] <icebox> SargoDarya: hey
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[10:31:47] <selckin> icebox: well, collect this data in our generic 'data warehouse' so it can be used to train x & y and internal analytics, and then build system x to sell x & y from datawarehouse, and then add some more columns, and oops
[10:31:57] <icebox> selckin: every time I query on live db (can I do it?), every time I access to live env (am I authorised?), every time I check the figures (where is the privacy?) and so on
[10:32:40] <icebox> selckin: no... you know what you are doing :)
[10:33:41] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, the thing is, we are now finding out that data that we didn´t really qualify as sensitive or relevant can be a dangerous thing if gathered in bulk and combined, leading to the ability of extracting sensitive information from it.
[10:33:46] <selckin> but i joined last week, and i just have to expose these classification we infer to the api
[10:33:56] <icebox> selckin: every time I have a doubt, I say to my boos... please, can you drop me a line? and always the answer is "ah ok... never mind... I find another way"
[10:34:11] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, you, otoh, are talking about data you _know_ is sensitive and relevant already.
[10:34:16] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yes
[10:34:45] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: but nowadays all data is sensitive and relevant
[10:34:56] <selckin> and then next month, we add a political afficliation classification
[10:35:14] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, agreed. but that wasn´t the case 8 years ago, when wiley´s story sort of started.
[10:35:45] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, essentially we are talking farmville app permissions. who could´ve thunk, right ;)
[10:36:12] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: the checkpoint is the following one... here collecting any data... and I ask... please, can you add a security layer to track the access and the changes?.. and the answer is "never mind... it is not so important"... ringing a bing bell
[10:36:29] <icebox> *a big bell
[10:36:39] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, sure, with everything we know now.
[10:37:11] <icebox> my point is... you cannot say "I didn't know it"... now as 8 years ago
[10:37:16] <Pyrrhus666> all that needs to happen now is that actual users start to realize it ;)
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[10:38:20] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I tend to disagree there. I don´t think we could´ve grasped how efficient the micro-targeted stuff based on relatively simple data could be...
[10:39:11] <Pyrrhus666> combine that with a nerd having what he thought was a cool idea back then, and the start is relatively innocent.
[10:39:45] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: maybe... but I contest the employee's manipuation... boss: do that?... employee: track the task... boss: never mind... this is very dangerous
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[10:40:02] <Pyrrhus666> like scientist saying ´oh look, nuclear fission, interesting...´ and the military saying ´yes, please tell me more´...
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[10:40:32] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... Oppenheimer's dilemma
[10:41:00] <icebox> but Oppenheimer didn't say ever "no idea what's happening"
[10:41:06] <Pyrrhus666> this is not exactly the same, but I can see parallels.
[10:41:27] <Elarcis> icebox: well technically at some point they didn’t know… they just realized VERY quickly what they had done.
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[10:41:46] <Pyrrhus666> ah well, lets agree that at least now, nobody can deny the sensitivity of any data gathered in bulk.
[10:41:50] <icebox> Elarcis: maybe
[10:42:02] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed... at last
[10:42:13] <icebox> so now we should close fb
[10:42:27] <icebox> intending fb should be illegal
[10:42:34] <icebox> no? ok
[10:42:47] <Pyrrhus666> and yet... today we have a referendum on new laws for tapping data by the government, and it´s all like ´ah, I´ve got nothing to hide´ ... sad as fuck.
[10:42:56] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: eheheh :)
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[10:43:35] <Pyrrhus666> like the well known quote says ¨1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual¨
[10:43:35] <icebox> there is a bit of hypocrisy
[10:43:36] <Elarcis> People who say "I have nothing to hide" are usually the people who have the most to hide, they just don’t know it.
[10:43:36] <heartburn> link some decent monospace fonts, my dudes?
[10:43:54] <Elarcis> heartburn: Iosevka.
[10:44:02] <Pyrrhus666> pragmata pro
[10:44:03] <Elarcis> heartburn: hello, by the way o/
[10:44:09] <icebox> heartburn: welcome back
[10:44:30] <heartburn> wasn't leaving tho. :o)
[10:44:37] <Elarcis> heartburn: sadly
[10:44:52] <heartburn> always here, reading your facebooks.
[10:44:54] <icebox> Elarcis: well... "I have nothing to hide", if the rest of the world is transparent... no? ok me too
[10:45:10] <heartburn> speaking of which...
[10:45:11] <heartburn> https://github.com/jmdugan/blocklists/blob/master/corporations/facebook/all
[10:45:23] <heartburn> cat -^ this >> /etc/hosts
[10:45:55] <heartburn> still missing a couple domains tho.
[10:46:15] <Pyrrhus666> from 2016...
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[10:46:27] <heartburn> iosevka doesn't look nice on my screen at 10pt.
[10:46:33] <heartburn> gonna try this pragmata one.
[10:46:39] <icebox> 10.000$ only in domains per year :)
[10:47:05] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, it´s paid, but easily found if you want to ´evaluate´.
[10:47:31] <heartburn> ew, ligatures.
[10:47:39] <heartburn> can you disable them, or?
[10:47:46] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: and weirdly (or maybe not) the involved guy was a twenty years old
[10:47:58] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, probably, I never see them
[10:48:10] <heartburn> good.
[10:48:24] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, sorry, involved in what ? 1984 ?
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[10:48:46] <icebox> heartburn: yes... selecting a specimen or disabling (or not enabling) it in the editor
[10:48:54] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: Mr. Wyle
[10:49:16] <icebox> * Wylie
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[10:49:57] <Elarcis> heartburn: there is a ligature-less version of Iosevka
[10:49:58] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yes, young enthusiastic nerds are dangerous af ;)
[10:50:28] <heartburn> Elarcis: i know, i've been using it for some time, didn't like it generally.
[10:50:37] <Elarcis> heartburn: though PragmataPro without ligatures presents almost no interest :P
[10:50:51] <Elarcis> heartburn: ah, sad. Currently my preferred font.
[10:50:55] <heartburn> speaking of narrow/condensed typefaces, input mono family got it better, i reckon.
[10:51:08] <icebox> and again, apart data gate, it seems weirdly (at least to me) a 20-years old boy feels to talk for *hours* (about a sensitive company task) with a Guardian journalist
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[10:52:25] <jlebrech> i hate when something works and I don't know why
[10:52:36] <icebox> jlebrech: agreed
[10:53:08] <icebox> jlebrech: but I would say also "when *someone" works and I don't know why" :)
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[10:53:22] <jlebrech> webpacked a font library, removed the ref to the old bower one. still works. baffled
[10:53:47] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, why is that weird ? he´s been trying to get stuff in mainstream media for months now, I gathered.
[10:54:01] <Pyrrhus666> that´s what whistleblowers do, no ?
[10:54:31] <jlebrech> if it's about russia they'll bite your hand off
[10:54:51] <jlebrech> or something trump did once
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[10:57:34] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: my point is... pure manipulation, complot :)
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[10:58:14] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, what´s the complot here, other than the one wiley is uncovering by coming forward ?
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[10:59:47] <pdobrogost> Pyrrhus666: icebox: I filed this https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues/16500
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[11:00:16] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ok... it is all about money and power... it seems Mr. Zuckerberg lost 5 billions... but it seems he sold the shares before the crack (and it should be easy to check and I bet we never know the truth)... what about President Trump due to this scandal?
[11:01:13] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: anyway... they are only thoughts :)
[11:01:43] <icebox> pdobrogost: perfect
[11:01:57] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, ok... but if you mean it like that, I don´t understand why wiley talking to the guardian is weird. oh well :)
[11:02:19] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: because I would not do that... ever
[11:02:42] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I would go to FBI (if it is in USA)
[11:03:31] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, the authorities ? but they are not to be trusted, they probably _know_ this is happening.
[11:03:51] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ah do you see it? :) complot :)
[11:04:26] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yes, which is why the media (or wikileaks or whatnot) is the better option for a whistleblower ;)
[11:04:39] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: totally agreed
[11:05:08] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: but the immediate consequence is you are guilty
[11:05:15] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, so wiley talking to the guardian is _not_ weird ? *confused*
[11:05:27] <icebox> ok... very confused
[11:05:40] <icebox> that term is nice
[11:05:44] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, imho in cases like this, guilt is irrelevant
[11:09:59] <heartburn> aight, found two candidates, but still on the fence.
[11:10:15] <icebox> maybe guilty is not the term... intending you are not innocent
[11:10:16] <heartburn> https://imgur.com/a/poGtI which one, tell me, hivemind?
[11:11:06] <icebox> heartburn: I think so
[11:11:31] <icebox> the first one
[11:12:12] <heartburn> courier is very nice, yeah, pity it doesn't have cyrillics.
[11:12:44] <Pyrrhus666> I´d choose neither, but hey :)
[11:12:56] <heartburn> but the second fels like childhood, so whaddyagonnado.
[11:13:50] <Elarcis> heartburn: first one is a tad less awful than the second one.
[11:13:51] <heartburn> courier is great because of how readable it remains on small sizes.
[11:15:32] <heartburn> man i wish there was a compact ttf typeface that looks good w/o antialiasing and is not monaco/terminus..
[11:16:35] <Pyrrhus666> heartburn, is that image a 1:1 screenshot ? the letters look fuzzy for both fonts.
[11:16:54] <Pyrrhus666> like too much hinting and aa.
[11:17:16] <heartburn> if you 'open image in a new tab' it will be 1:1 yea
[11:17:34] <Pyrrhus666> I did. to me, still not crisp.
[11:17:37] <heartburn> the 1st is hinted, the 2nd isn't
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[11:19:08] <heartburn> i love the second font but it's way too large, fits only about ~48 lines per page on my display.
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[11:20:48] <heartburn> just in case you wanna get nostalgic too: http://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/fontlist/
[11:21:50] <heartburn> even the webpage smells of warm beige plastic.
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[11:22:54] <Pyrrhus666> like looking at my old monochrome amber monitor wit hercules graphics...
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[11:23:12] <icebox> thinking on the same thing :)
[11:24:24] <Pyrrhus666> yay ! found someone who actually knows hercules graphics :P
[11:24:49] <icebox> of course :P
[11:24:55] <heartburn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKNC in my case
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[11:25:38] <Pyrrhus666> pdp-11 compatible... :)
[11:25:47] <icebox> that is nice
[11:26:05] <icebox> that time I was buying a pdp-11 :)
[11:26:15] <icebox> 500€
[11:26:17] <Pyrrhus666> haha, funny, this is the exact hercules card I had : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_Graphics_Card#/media/File:ET1000-A.JPG
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[11:27:13] <icebox> the problem was the weight
[11:27:36] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, a friend of mine has a complete pdp-11 in storage. with punch-thingy-reader and reel-to-reel tapedrive
[11:27:47] <icebox> very very nice :)
[11:28:03] <Pyrrhus666> it´s supposed to be in working order, but hasn´t run in over 5 years.
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[11:43:26] <heartburn> "I’ve had this nagging feeling that the computers I use today feel slower than the computers I used as a kid. As a rule, I don’t trust this kind of feeling because human perception has been shown to be unreliable in empirical studies, so I carried around a high-speed camera and measured the response latency of devices I’ve run into in the past few months. Here are the results:"
[11:43:32] <heartburn> https://danluu.com/input-lag/
[11:44:02] <SargoDarya> heartburn: Oldie but goodie
[11:45:21] <heartburn> 200 2017 4.2 GHz
[11:45:31] <heartburn> 300 1986 5 MHz
[11:45:32] <heartburn> kek
[11:46:51] <SargoDarya> I find this one funnier: It’s perhaps even more absurd that the default configuration of the powerspec g405, which had the fastest single-threaded performance you could get until October 2017, had more latency from keyboard-to-screen (approximately 3 feet, maybe 10 feet of actual cabling) than sending a packet around the world (16187 mi from NYC to Tokyo to London back to NYC, more due to the cost of runn
[11:46:52] <SargoDarya> ing the shortest possible length of fiber).
[11:49:30] <heartburn> strange that he got lower latency on iphone 5 comparing to nexus 5x. i've had both, and the nexus feels generally snappier.
[11:50:15] <heartburn> good read nevertheless.
[11:51:38] <SargoDarya> heartburn: did you have haptic feedback enabled? That might fake it
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[11:51:54] <heartburn> nope, never used it.
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[11:52:13] <heartburn> it's probably the iphones animation.
[11:52:19] <heartburn> it's unbearably slow.
[11:53:43] <icebox> heartburn: very nice link
[11:54:11] <heartburn> i mean it's smooth and all, just the duration is too long.
[11:54:43] <heartburn> hence the feeling that the os responds with a delay.
[11:57:25] <icebox> fascinating tests
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[11:59:43] <jlebrech> webpack issue: I have my css font loading and it's putting everything in /dist like it should but then tries to load the woff files from the root directory
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[12:17:13] <jlebrech> fixed :)
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[12:21:19] <w0rp> Does anyone have a tool for making sense of those annoying Angular errors which are so long they aren't valid URIs?
[12:21:36] <w0rp> I do wish I could turn that feature off completely.
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[12:49:14] <Elarcis> w0rp: what errors?
[12:49:21] <Pyrrhus666> w0rp, if you´re talking about angularjs, they are valid urls (at least when I see them)
[12:49:44] <w0rp> Once you get a stack trace long enough, the URIs are too long.
[12:49:47] <w0rp> So you can't open them.
[12:50:14] <Pyrrhus666> never had that particular problem...
[12:50:26] <Elarcis> w0rp: The only time I saw that kind of error, was with an infinite digest loop
[12:50:28] <w0rp> https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues/5476 There's an issue there about it.
[12:50:57] <jlebrech> i never understood how to use those
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[12:51:23] <Elarcis> " whoever thought it would be a good idea [...] ought to be shot"
[12:51:32] <w0rp> You usually get the problem when you have a module string that's wrong very deep down in your dependencies.
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[12:51:37] <Elarcis> how did _that_ not get moderated?
[12:51:51] <w0rp> That's a pretty spicy comment.
[12:52:16] <Elarcis> w0rp: your example is an infinite digest error as well
[12:52:27] <w0rp> Nah.
[12:52:39] <w0rp> I usually see it with module dependency issues.
[12:52:44] <Elarcis> w0rp: it is, "$rootScope/infdig"
[12:52:52] <Elarcis> w0rp: ah.
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[12:53:10] <Elarcis> w0rp: to me, dependency issues are pretty readable
[12:53:14] <Elarcis> w0rp: so I don’t know
[12:53:14] <w0rp> Where module A isn't loaded due B not being able to load C, not being able to load D, etc.
[12:53:26] <w0rp> Then the message is long enough to generate an invalid URI.
[12:53:35] <Elarcis> w0rp: how long are your dependencies? o_o
[12:53:40] <w0rp> I end up URL decoding the string in a Python shell or something enough times until I can figure it out.
[12:54:05] <w0rp> Well, if you have an app that loads a component, that loads another component, that loads a service, etc.
[12:54:15] <w0rp> You very easily get 4-5 dependencies down at least.
[12:55:57] <jlebrech> Elarcis: being shot can mean various things :D
[12:58:33] <Elarcis> jlebrech: yeah, I’m sure they meant "photographed"
[12:58:42] <jlebrech> :)
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[13:01:03] <jlebrech> is there some kind of occam's razor for legal reasons, aka the most innocent explanation is given when someone makes a fuss.
[13:02:40] <Elarcis> jlebrech: it’s the opposite actually, the most violent explanation is given when someone involves shooting someone when making a fuss
[13:02:40] <Elarcis> :P
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[13:41:17] <haweh> Greetings all I am wondering why this code does not work for select as the http get method works find when I print it to the console
[13:41:58] <icebox> back
[13:42:09] <icebox> haweh: which one?
[13:44:13] <Elarcis> icebox: it sure is some code
[13:44:28] <Elarcis> icebox: whatever it is
[13:44:37] <Pyrrhus666> nah, it´s this code, obviously
[13:45:06] <Pyrrhus666> that is some code, over there in the other corner
[13:50:00] <Peppa_Swine> cant select if theres no code to work *taps forehead
[13:51:08] <icebox> :P
[13:51:20] <Pyrrhus666> haweh, we´re not seeing any code...
[13:51:24] <icebox> haweh: don't be shy :) any code detail?
[13:51:41] <haweh> It's rather large so figuring out what parts to show.
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[13:56:40] <haweh> icebox it won't build as a lot of the code is missing so don't worry about that but in employees create html why is my select not being populated: https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter
[13:57:36] <icebox> haweh: did you save the changes? that stackblitz is the original one
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[13:58:42] <Peppa_Swine> gonna try this one w/o looking: ngoptions dont get updated after $http is resolved?
[13:58:56] <Peppa_Swine> assuming its ng1
[13:59:15] <haweh> https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-pcfpng and it prints in the subscribe here so the objects are being fetched this.m.getpositionAll().subscribe(positions=> this.postions = positions);
[13:59:39] <Peppa_Swine> ok, thats a miss.
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[14:04:33] <haweh> icebox if you any questions let me know.
[14:05:33] <icebox> haweh: sure... what is your concern? :)
[14:05:50] <icebox> haweh: why is it not fetched?
[14:06:48] <icebox> haweh: because I see only "loading"
[14:07:13] <haweh> It fetches but does not populate select correctly which is weird as this should work this.m.getpositionAll().subscribe(positions=> this.postions = positions). Check the createCustomers html in select as it seems that may be wrong but I can't see what
[14:07:36] <haweh> Basically why is the createCustomers select not working
[14:08:43] <icebox> haweh: ok... but that stackblitz doens't work... I see only a blank page with "loading"... is it that expected?
[14:09:18] <icebox> haweh: notice teams-serice.service.ts is empty
[14:10:08] <icebox> haweh: generally speaking you should narrow your concern to a few lines (ten?) of code... not a dozens of files
[14:11:27] <icebox> haweh: really I have no time to ping-pong about an issue... you should say... this is the code... (ten lines)... I expect X, but I get Y at line L... why?
[14:11:56] <icebox> haweh: otherwise we stay here for hours :P
[14:12:05] <haweh> OK the code in createCustomers.component.html for select why is it not working
[14:12:21] <icebox> haweh: I don't want to read the code... I want code to debug :)
[14:12:35] <icebox> haweh: any code to debug?
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[14:13:06] <icebox> haweh: take your time to narrow the issue, please
[14:13:25] <haweh> I did narrow it to the select code. My question is still why does that not work
[14:13:53] <icebox> haweh: ok... no problem.. I am out
[14:14:06] <icebox> haweh: I cannot help you... sorry... next time
[14:14:30] <haweh> Icebox why not. The code is there. What do you want?
[14:14:51] <icebox> haweh: because I am not able to help you... sorry
[14:15:15] <Pyrrhus6661> a working example showing the problem. we can´t debug non-working code.
[14:15:53] <Pyrrhus6661> and since we don´t know your project, reading through code as it is now, is just too hard.
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[14:16:41] <Peppa_Swine> im on the phone logged via ssh so cant see the code but my guess would be that the scope doesnt update after the data is received.
[14:17:12] <Peppa_Swine> whats the ng2s version of $scope.$apply()?
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[14:17:45] <Pyrrhus6661> afaik there isn´t one.
[14:17:52] <Peppa_Swine> you might wanna trigger digest loop by hand so the select gets its options.
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[14:19:10] <Elarcis> haweh: your code doesn’t work for us in all cases, we can’t troubleshoot that
[14:19:19] <haweh> https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-pcfpng here is the mininal working code. Why is select not being populated in createEmployee html
[14:19:39] <Peppa_Swine> another naughty workaround would be to ngIf the select outta dom until the options are ready and then render it.
[14:20:22] <Elarcis> haweh: did you save it? it shows "loading" for us
[14:20:58] <haweh> Can I just did the app.component.html does not have that component so it will just do loading
[14:21:31] <haweh> *just did
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[14:22:48] <Peppa_Swine> mimic the loading logic with some setTimeout() with a promise.
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[14:23:10] <Peppa_Swine> so it kinda loads something but really.
[14:23:18] <Peppa_Swine> not*
[14:23:31] <Pyrrhus6661> or better yet, just load some static json from somewhere.
[14:23:56] <Peppa_Swine> whatever is quicker to put togerher.
[14:24:29] <Pyrrhus6661> setTimeout with a promise is different code from a http.get with an observable :P
[14:24:52] <Pyrrhus6661> although, granted, haweh said the actual loading worked.
[14:24:53] <Peppa_Swine> i dont see any code, im on the phone.
[14:25:14] <Pyrrhus6661> it´s all ng5 observable stuff. not a promise in sight...
[14:25:53] <Pyrrhus6661> I tend to use https://httpbin.org/, usually works a treat
[14:26:28] <l30p4l[m]> Hi guys! Can you recommend somo (free) wysiwyg for angular 2????
[14:26:29] <haweh> Guys why does this not work: <td align="right"><b>Postion</b></td> <td align="left"> <select class='form-control' [(ngModel)]='selectedPosition'> <option *ngFor='let p of postions' [value]='p._id'>{{p.PositionName}}</option> </select> when the data is fetched properly
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[14:26:59] <icebox> l30p4l[m]: do you mean a builder?
[14:27:16] <Pyrrhus6661> because it says ´postions´, not ´positions´
[14:27:46] <Pyrrhus6661> l30p4l[m], tinymce
[14:28:28] <haweh> Nope did not owrk
[14:28:31] <haweh> *work
[14:29:02] <icebox> l30p4l[m]: https://github.com/jaredreich/pell/
[14:29:04] <l30p4l[m]> icebox: a free texto editor, i try froala
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[14:29:12] <l30p4l[m]> But isnt free
[14:29:50] <icebox> ahahah... getting popcorn
[14:30:01] <l30p4l[m]> And i cant integrate tinymce because it an webpack app
[14:30:14] <icebox> or I need to review that post about stackoverflow help
[14:30:19] <Pyrrhus6661> tinymce works fine with webpack, I use it myself
[14:30:33] <icebox> popcorns all around
[14:30:53] * Pyrrhus6661 hands icebox a fresh batch
[14:30:53] <haweh> I posted my code. What do you guys not understand at this point?
[14:31:15] <Pyrrhus6661> haweh, what do you not understand about not being able to debug text ?
[14:31:27] <Pyrrhus6661> working code, or no party.
[14:31:39] <icebox> and "here it works"
[14:32:02] <l30p4l[m]> Well its mi first webpack integración, i use angular-cli
[14:32:10] <l30p4l[m]> But ill try again with tinymce
[14:32:17] * Pyrrhus6661 munches on a fistful of popcorn
[14:32:26] <Pyrrhus6661> l30p4l[m], me too, works fine.
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[14:32:56] <SargoDarya> Neat, finally found a good solution on StackOverflow for handling unsubscribing from observables inside of components.
[14:33:11] <l30p4l[m]> icebox: tanks!
[14:33:24] <Pyrrhus6661> l30p4l[m], here : https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-trhr5k
[14:33:35] <icebox> l30p4l[m]: you are welcome
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[14:36:33] <l30p4l[m]> Pyrrhus6661: thanks!!
[14:41:39] <icebox> haweh: here it works... https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-lun2el?file=app%2Fapp.component.html
[14:43:18] <icebox> haweh: your problem is due to the async nature of the flow, if datat structure is ok... as Peppa_Swine said, maybe you don't update correctly the model... but without any code to debug is hard to give you a concrete help
[14:47:11] <haweh> https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-eao9cy?file=app%2Fapp.component.html is the best I can do as it does not want to load my component.
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[14:48:34] <Pyrrhus6661> then you should sort that out or build an even sparser test-case.
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[14:52:30] <haweh> <app-Employeescreate></app-Employeescreate> ok then care to explain how that doesn't build then?
[14:53:14] <Pyrrhus6661> because you have mixed-case ?
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[14:54:24] <haweh> EmployeescreateComponent is the name of the component so that should work
[14:54:33] <Pyrrhus666> if you say so...
[14:55:42] <haweh> https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-eao9cy care to explain how this doesn't build first
[14:56:25] <Pyrrhus666> I see no error, so can´t debug
[14:56:49] <Pyrrhus666> no error meaning it works, I guess ?
[14:57:27] <haweh> Ok because it was giving me a error. So why question is why does in employeecreate the select not render correctly even through your example does.
[14:59:20] <Pyrrhus666> because your stackblitz is non-functional.
[14:59:32] <Pyrrhus666> it´s not a valid test-case for your problem
[15:00:15] <haweh> How is it not valid? It shows the issue?
[15:00:33] <Pyrrhus666> no it doesn´t. it just renders an empty <sb-app>
[15:00:44] <Pyrrhus666> and produces zero errors.
[15:03:12] <haweh> I am no idea how you guys want a test. Can I just upload the complete app somewhere.
[15:03:50] <Pyrrhus666> build. a. testcase.
[15:04:24] <Pyrrhus666> icebox´s example shows a working sample.
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[15:04:31] <SargoDarya> haweh: Minimal reproducible issue.
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[15:04:44] <SargoDarya> Try isolating it in a stackblitz
[15:04:50] <haweh> I did post the minimal issue. So what do you want?
[15:05:10] <Pyrrhus666> no you didn´t . it´s a non-functional angular app.
[15:05:23] <Pyrrhus666> it´s no more than a pastebin.
[15:06:30] <Pyrrhus666> if you say it renders an empty select-box even thought the stuff is loaded, I want to see that freakin´ happening.
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[15:07:00] <icebox> haweh: I added the async call and it works... https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-lun2el?file=app%2Fapp.component.ts
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[15:08:04] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, nice use of httpbin ;)
[15:08:45] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: sadly static json is not supported in stackblitz yet - https://github.com/stackblitz/core/issues/143
[15:09:16] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yes, I know. which is why httpbin is still useful
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[15:10:04] <icebox> haweh: try to modify accordingly my stackblitz to your use case... or try to see the diffs between that code and the yours
[15:10:49] <haweh> I will be back with a working explain in a little bit
[15:11:20] <icebox> haweh: ok... here we are
[15:11:40] <Peppa_Swine> im beginning to understand your fondness of 'the', icebox.
[15:12:03] <Peppa_Swine> le tue, la tua. the yours.
[15:12:34] <Peppa_Swine> italian is really weird like that.
[15:12:56] <Peppa_Swine> but im enjoying learning it still.
[15:13:09] <icebox> Peppa_Swine: ah sorry... my english is so wrong
[15:13:59] <Peppa_Swine> that wasnt the case, just found it amusing.)
[15:14:07] <icebox> ah ok :)
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[15:14:36] <Pyrrhus666> your english is still better than my italian ;)
[15:14:49] <Elarcis> Peppa_Swine: le vôtre in french.
[15:15:10] <Peppa_Swine> буяка-буяка.
[15:15:21] <Elarcis> Peppa_Swine: stop hacking my computer!
[15:15:23] <Pyrrhus666> ´het jouwe´ in dutch, which is even correct, and used.
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[15:23:03] <haweh> https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-9xs4jb here you guys go it shows nothing for me either. Any questions let me know as it's based off icecube's tester
[15:24:02] <Pyrrhus666> haweh, you have a big fat console error regarding TeamService
[15:24:46] <haweh> Where it shows nothing for me in my stackblitz
[15:25:00] <Pyrrhus666> open your javascript console
[15:25:28] <Pyrrhus666> ¨No provider for TeamsSeriveService!¨
[15:25:32] <Pyrrhus666> typo ?
[15:26:03] <Pyrrhus666> ah no, it´s actually called that.
[15:26:26] <haweh> exactly
[15:26:39] <Pyrrhus666> you app.module.ts is not correct.
[15:27:07] <haweh> Ok what's incorrect in the app.module.ts
[15:27:29] <Pyrrhus666> it doesn´t mention your service anywhere, so hence it is not found.
[15:28:19] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: hence is redundant with so, so hence you should not use both :P
[15:28:33] <Pyrrhus666> haha, yes :)
[15:29:03] <icebox> haweh: I am afraid the proble is in the service... did you debug it?
[15:29:07] <icebox> *problem
[15:29:38] <haweh> Yes I did and it gets the values out correctly from my url when I do subscribe and print to the console
[15:30:26] <icebox> haweh: are you sure getpositionAll returns what you expect?
[15:30:49] <haweh> what do you mean about returns?
[15:30:53] <icebox> haweh: because visually seems ok
[15:31:13] <icebox> haweh: getpositionAll should return the positions
[15:31:31] <haweh> Yes my point was when I do .subscript(positions => console.log(positions) it prints then out
[15:31:52] <haweh> *.subscribe
[15:31:55] <icebox> I see
[15:32:21] <icebox> haweh: so.. as I said... it seems ok... so your last chance is reproducing the issue :)
[15:32:46] <icebox> haweh: with stackblitz or something else.... otherwise we cannot help you
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[15:33:30] <dissonant> Is there something I need to add to a component for routerLinkActive to work in the template? The routerLink's themselves work just fine but it is not adding the "active" class to routes
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[15:35:24] <icebox> haweh: ok... last idea.. shall you share the log of positions, please? via pastebin, for instance
[15:35:50] <haweh> I was trying to post the complete view of the employees create
[15:36:07] <icebox> haweh: your response should be something like this file https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-9xs4jb?file=app%2Fpositions.json
[15:36:52] <icebox> haweh: your effort should be reproducing the issue.. not adding new code or html :)
[15:37:10] <icebox> haweh: that would be enough, but it is not working
[15:37:15] <icebox> so we cannot debug it
[15:37:51] <icebox> haweh: (as I said you... two hours spent here without any result, because there is not any reproducible test)
[15:37:58] <haweh> Here a link to where my json is stored: https://secret-citadel-17150.herokuapp.com/positions
[15:38:23] <Pyrrhus666> IT IS STILL CALLED FUCKING ¨POSTIONS¨ INSTEAD OF ¨POSITIONS¨
[15:38:46] <icebox> I hope it is not a typo
[15:38:48] <Pyrrhus666> and yes, fixing that WILL make it work, but I´m not sharing my stackblitz.
[15:39:09] <Elarcis> haweh: you could at least not pretend you’re not reading our messages :P
[15:39:41] <haweh> I tried that too to see if was a typo, Pyrrhus666
[15:39:44] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I guess it is, and I said so HOURS ago.
[15:39:55] <Pyrrhus666> haweh, it damn well is.
[15:40:29] <icebox> ok... we block the whole Canada for a month, if it is a typo :)
[15:40:43] <haweh> It was not as I tried that yesterday
[15:40:48] <Pyrrhus666> haweh, srsly though, are you dyslexic ? I also see ´Postitions´ ?
[15:41:05] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ok... it is not correct... but it is coherent
[15:41:11] <icebox> I don't think it is a typo
[15:41:23] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: really is it a typo?
[15:41:26] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I got a working stackblitz that says otherwise :P
[15:41:29] <icebox> ok
[15:41:45] <icebox> very sigh
[15:41:55] <icebox> haweh: terrible
[15:42:04] <Pyrrhus666> ok, since I´m generally a nice guy : https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-4rznun?file=app%2Fapp.component.html
[15:42:44] <icebox> thanks Pyrrhus666
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[15:42:54] <Pyrrhus666> haweh, you owe me a beer.
[15:43:15] <icebox> well... or you can invite all us in Toronto :)
[15:43:21] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: you’re way too nice
[15:43:33] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, who will pay my airfare ? :P
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[15:43:43] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: haweh :)
[15:43:55] <Omar_> Hi All !
[15:43:56] <icebox> and I flight only in business or first class :)
[15:44:02] <icebox> Omar_: hey
[15:44:03] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, ah, a nice canadian craft beer would be cool :)
[15:44:38] <icebox> :P
[15:44:41] <Omar_> icebox i come again with my problems :')
[15:44:46] <icebox> ah nice
[15:44:53] <icebox> we are available
[15:45:16] <icebox> but we didn't receive last paycheck :)
[15:45:50] <Omar_> loooool
[15:45:54] <icebox> :P
[15:45:56] <Omar_> you ll receive
[15:45:59] <Omar_> :p
[15:46:08] <icebox> yeah.. like the previous one :)
[15:46:33] <haweh> Icebox it does not work still. Even with pyrrus666's code
[15:46:56] <Omar_> lol take 10 000$
[15:47:05] <Pyrrhus666> haweh, what are you talking about, the stackblitz works fine ?
[15:47:11] <Omar_> enough ?
[15:47:25] <icebox> Omar_: maybe :)
[15:47:32] <Omar_> good
[15:47:38] <haweh> Nots not work locally through
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[15:47:41] <icebox> Omar_: what is the issue?
[15:47:58] <Omar_> icebox could i save an image in assets folder
[15:48:11] <pdobrogost> Is there something similar to ng-init which would allow to call a function each time some view is being displayed as opposed to only when it's created?
[15:48:22] <Omar_> this image taken from an input file
[15:48:28] <icebox> Omar_: I would say I think so but it depends on the context :)
[15:48:40] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: appart from ngInit, I don’t think so.
[15:48:43] <icebox> Omar_: via backend, yes
[15:48:49] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: extract the logic into a component
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[15:48:53] <Omar_> my backend wcf C#
[15:49:21] <pdobrogost> ok, thanks
[15:49:22] <icebox> pdobrogost: https://angular.io/guide/lifecycle-hooks
[15:49:43] <Pyrrhus666> aaaaaaaaaand they´re gone
[15:49:46] <Omar_> i try to store the entire image in the database but i think its not the best practice
[15:50:06] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: better
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[15:50:08] <Pyrrhus666> well eff you too then haweh
[15:50:12] <pdobrogost> icebox: Does it apply to AngularJS?
[15:50:20] <icebox> pdobrogost: you said angular :)
[15:50:33] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yeah, but very detrimental to my state of mind.
[15:50:40] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: yes it does
[15:50:48] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: anyway there are similar hooks for components
[15:51:10] <icebox> pdobrogost: https://toddmotto.com/angular-1-5-lifecycle-hooks
[15:51:16] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, how do you mean ´hooks´ ? for debugging ?
[15:51:27] <Elarcis> pdobrogost: https://blog.thoughtram.io/angularjs/2016/03/29/exploring-angular-1.5-lifecycle-hooks.html
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[15:51:42] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hooks, entry points?
[15:52:31] <icebox> pdobrogost: and https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/component "Components have a well-defined lifecycle"
[15:52:32] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, are we talking about the same things ? I was referring to haweh disappearing, which is frustrating
[15:52:50] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: " how do you mean ´hooks´ ? for debugging ?"
[15:53:14] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: "better" was for haweh
[15:53:41] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, so the ¨anyway there are similar hooks for components¨ was probably not meant for me, right ? ;)
[15:53:58] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ah yes... sorry... mistell
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[15:54:07] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, confusing :)
[15:54:11] <icebox> yep :)
[15:54:31] <icebox> frustrating is not the correct term
[15:54:49] <Pyrrhus666> that was putting it mildly :)
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[15:54:59] <icebox> :P
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[15:55:05] <icebox> very mildly
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[15:56:01] <icebox> https://media.giphy.com/media/HhTXt43pk1I1W/200.gif
[15:56:53] <Pyrrhus666> hehe, close :)
[15:57:14] <icebox> and at the point zero I would set someone :)
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[15:57:46] <Pyrrhus666> strapped to the bomb :)
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[15:57:58] <icebox> :P
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[16:23:36] <SargoDarya> Man, I find the nanoleaf lights really intriguing
[16:24:28] <icebox> nice
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[16:26:53] <Pyrrhus666> waiting for chinese knockoffs that are a dime a dozen :)
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[16:35:44] <icebox> ok... off in a few minutes
[16:36:44] <Pyrrhus666> me too. later folks !
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[16:41:43] <zzing> What is the proper way to get an instance to a service outside of angular? I can get the injector assigned from the platform in the first initialization, and even give the service a string as a key to use for the injector. When I try to get an instance from the injector it says something about no provider. I have registered it as a provider in the app module - so I am sure there is something I am missing.
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[16:44:02] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: Not sure if you can really manufacture that much cheaper for what you get with it.
[16:44:22] <zomg> zzing: in angular 1.x at least it's angular.element(whatever).injector().get('SomeService')
[16:44:57] <zomg> with the param to element being some element which is within your angular app, ie. body or whatever
[16:45:15] <zomg> or if you have access to the injector, you can just do injector.get('stuff')
[16:45:40] <zomg> this is kinda kludgey, but it's a decent method if you're trying to for example refactor code to use angular or deal with some other issues like that
[16:45:47] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, well, 65 euros for just three panels ? I dunno. in essence, it´s a ginormous led-strip with adressable leds...
[16:45:49] <zzing> zomg, I am using 5. When I try injector.get('key') it says no provider.
[16:46:05] <zzing> Basically we have a button outside of angular that has to trigger UI in angular.
[16:46:05] <zomg> does a service called 'key' exist?
[16:46:15] <zomg> ah..
[16:46:30] <zzing> zomg: we created one in the providers section of the main module
[16:46:34] <zomg> maybe you can use an inbetween module of sorts
[16:46:43] <zomg> kinda like just a message passing module
[16:46:59] <zomg> your angular code goes messagebus.onMessage(function() { do stuff })
[16:47:11] <zomg> and your non-angular code simply goes messagebus.post('some event')
[16:47:28] <zzing> So basically we have a global class that interfaces?
[16:47:28] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: Which you can stick together arbitrarily and steer the whole thing with an app and address each one on it's own
[16:47:32] <zomg> yeah
[16:47:43] <zomg> that's probably a reasonably clean way to do it
[16:48:04] <zzing> zomg, I do know we can store a global instance of the service into the window object - I am pretty sure this is not a great idea though.
[16:48:15] <SargoDarya> But yea, that's down to around 22 per panel.
[16:48:38] <zomg> zzing: yeah hard to say, in both cases your code would depend on something that needs to be available globally
[16:48:47] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, I can do that with a $15 strip and a $5 controller too, just with smaller panels. they look cool, granted, but too expensive.
[16:48:48] <SargoDarya> A single Philips Hue lamp costs around 45€
[16:49:01] <zzing> Right now this can work, we can worry about it being ideal later. Thanks!
[16:49:05] <Pyrrhus666> also ridiculous, imho :)
[16:49:10] <zomg> np
[16:50:30] <Pyrrhus666> heh. ¨aurora open api¨ : https://forum.nanoleaf.me/forum/aurora-open-api
[16:52:19] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: You actually just need to be registered then you have access
[16:52:37] <SargoDarya> And I can tell you the API is really well made
[16:52:50] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, ah, ok. it gave me that just clicking the api-link in the menu...
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[16:55:18] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, I was blown away a while back by one of their pics featuring the panels. until I counted them (40 panels) and did the math :)
[16:55:22] <Pyrrhus666> off now
[16:55:30] <SargoDarya> Bye mate
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[17:18:49] <Elarcis> byyye
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[17:30:03] <stephen> How would one update an Angular 2 app to be on the latest LTS Angular (4.4.2 I believe) properly?
[17:30:27] <stephen> If I follow the standard procedure it takes me up to 5 which I'm not interested in
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[21:37:00] <Natalie> What's the rest way to check for non-existant or false fields in a mongoose query? Right now I'm doing { myField: { $ne: true} }. I've read that can be bad for indexing. Other approaches I've seen is { myField: { $in: [null, false] } }, and something using { myField: { $exists: false } }. Although the latter only checks for existence.
[21:37:25] <Natalie> If there's a more appropriate channel for mongoose/mongodb questions, I'd be happy to ask there.
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[21:46:29] <BlinkyBill> Natalie, I've got no idea about mongoose/mongo, but others may pop in at some point who do. So keep this open and see what happens. :)
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[21:48:03] <Natalie> Thanks.
[21:48:43] <Natalie> Right now my code is filled with { $eq: true } and { $ne: true }, and it's really easy to get lost as to which is which.
[21:53:47] <BlinkyBill> Natalie, have you considered creating a db service, so that you don't have to have mongo implementation through your codebase (assuming you're not already doing it)?
[21:54:31] <Natalie> I'm coding front-end, and sending queries back to the backend via an API. I don't really have control over what they do there, unfortunately.
[21:55:04] <Natalie> I'm trying to make my own front end API interface anyways, so I only code the queries once, and then I just call the appropriate functions elsewhere.
[21:55:36] <BlinkyBill> Ahh, yes, that's what I was referring to :) Carry on carrying on.
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[22:16:23] <ChaosBringer> Hello all, quick question
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[22:16:57] <ChaosBringer> Let's say i have something like this: [routerLink]="['/my/nested/route/:arg1/more/:arg2']
[22:17:03] <ChaosBringer> to generate a href link
[22:17:13] <ChaosBringer> when i do {arg1: ..., arg2: ...}
[22:17:21] <ChaosBringer> it doesn't replace the tokens, instead it appends them to the end of the URL
[22:17:27] <ChaosBringer> how to properly make this work?
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[22:31:45] <Ownix> This does not work for me `import { map } from "rxjs/operators";` but this does `import 'rxjs/add/operator/map';`. What am I doing wrong?
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[22:34:58] <Ownix> I figured it out. One is for the pipe-able version. That is super confusing for new people...
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[23:28:11] <BlinkyBill> glad you got it fixed Ownix :) It's a steep learning curve for sure.
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[23:51:15] <Ownix> BlinkyBill: next I have to figure out how to filter the results locally.
[23:52:08] <Ownix> Angular isn't too bad, typescript isn't too bad, observables are complex, and add in a huge library like angular-material and there's a lot to learn
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[23:54:08] <BlinkyBill> Ping me if you have any observable questions. I've ben on the steep learning curve but am winning. So much of the docco really didn't help, as it requires a bit of a paradigm shift.
[23:54:46] <BlinkyBill> Very slow to start with, but it gets easier as you use it more. Are you using VSCode as your IDE?
[23:55:56] <BlinkyBill> If so, install the Quakkajs plugin, as it makes testing constructs much easier when trying to get your head around observables.
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