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[00:04:18] <ChaosBringer> Looks like the way to do it is having to access the elements directly
[00:04:36] <ChaosBringer> e.g. *ngFor="let key of myObj.keys()
[00:04:42] <ChaosBringer> and then accessing those members directly
[00:04:56] <ChaosBringer> e.g. myObj[key].values()
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[00:14:52] <ChaosBringer> e.g. this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37046138/how-to-iterate-object-keys-using-ngfor/37046743#37046743
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[00:32:05] <HeartMeeple> haweh Sorry i didn't get back to you earlier did you figure out sorting?
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[01:28:01] <eindoofus> came across this angular2 repo and was wondering if this is considered bad practice. it's an altered version of the Tour of Heroes tutorial:
[01:28:04] <eindoofus> https://github.com/gaoxinwen/spring-boot-angular4-heroes/blob/master/frontend/src/main/frontend/src/app/hero.service.ts#L49
[01:28:48] <eindoofus> they're generating the id before sending it over, which seems like the backend should be handling it. i'm not crazy, right?
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[01:44:35] <ChaosBringer> @eindoofus, you are correct
[01:44:57] <ChaosBringer> the database should generate a primary key, unless the "id" is actually a guid, and even then, it should be handled by the ORM layer
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[01:49:34] <eindoofus> thanks for confirming that ChaosBringer
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[01:49:58] <eindoofus> was confused there for a moment
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[04:57:48] <nopacienc3> Hi!
[04:58:21] <nopacienc3> whats the proper way to {{JSON.stringify(some_element)}} so i can see it printed with angular2 ?
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[05:02:57] <nopacienc3> nvm
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[09:08:34] <icebox> OT: https://simulacra.js.org/
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[09:10:43] <SargoDarya> Party like its hot, we got the flat :D
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[09:11:58] <icebox> SargoDarya: hey... cool! :)
[09:12:12] <SargoDarya> Also, morning folks o/
[09:12:25] <ray02> hello hello
[09:12:27] <ray02> goodmorning
[09:13:07] <ray02> today i'm exited i will have fomation in my company
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[09:15:20] <icebox> ray02: hey... nice!
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[09:16:29] <ray02> we will make TDD
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[09:16:52] <ray02> i hope to undestand how to apply also on angular
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[09:17:45] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
[09:18:14] <ray02> hey hey Pyrrhus666
[09:18:18] <ray02> mornign
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[09:22:14] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hey
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[09:26:09] <icebox> OT: a link, opening a form, contained in an important site, doesn't work with FF... I send an email... they acknowledge the problem... result: no changes... bah
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[09:28:24] <icebox> OT: this is a FB culture where market makers prefer a "like" more than an interested customer sending an email... but in terms of loyalty (and effort from the point of user view) a "like" === an "email"? I don't think so
[09:28:48] <icebox> data gate is welcome
[09:28:54] <Pyrrhus6661> emails are not publically visible, likes are... it´s all about the front
[09:29:19] <pdobrogost> Can someone please tell me why clearing the input the first time sets $valid to true but subsequent ones do not? – https://plnkr.co/edit/qQMqZxgx6j3SAugNP9iO?p=preview
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[09:30:25] <ray02> are today email still relevant, outside professional comunication/spam ?
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[09:31:00] <Pyrrhus6661> ray02, less and less, depending on your social circle
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[09:32:33] <Pyrrhus6661> pdobrogost, for me, all clearing results in $valid being true, first and subsequent
[09:32:58] <pdobrogost> Pyrrhus6661: What browser? This must be in Chrome or Edge.
[09:33:10] <Pyrrhus6661> firefox, of course, there is no other :P
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[09:33:26] <pdobrogost> Well, firefox does not implement datetime-local :))
[09:34:03] <Pyrrhus6661> that´s irrelevant for this case, no ? I can still input a valid date and clear it ;)
[09:34:03] <pdobrogost> Pyrrhus6661: Can you try with Chrome, please?
[09:34:17] <icebox> Pyrrhus6661: agreed... but the glitch is there, noticed with "like" or with email should not change the next step for the company: fixing the bug:)
[09:34:40] <Pyrrhus6661> icebox, ¨just use chrome¨ :P
[09:34:47] <icebox> :P
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[09:35:11] <pdobrogost> No, it's not irrelevant as for Firefox I'm forced to use two separate fields, date and time.
[09:35:20] <Pyrrhus6661> pdobrogost, still can´t replicate in chrome... all clearing results in valid being true
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[09:35:38] <Pyrrhus6661> pdobrogost, I am on beta channel though
[09:37:16] <icebox> pdobrogost: here the same... cannot replicate
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[09:41:00] <Pyrrhus6661> can´t even clear the input in edge... wtf ?
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[09:43:18] <icebox> OT: “Write once, use everywhere” is an anti-pattern - https://hackernoon.com/write-once-run-everywhere-is-an-anti-pattern-2e32e1dd5b93
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[09:46:36] <Pyrrhus6661> icebox, sounds like the separation that classically comes with a well designed backend api and a lightweight webapp (or god forbid website)
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[09:47:07] <pdobrogost> Pyrrhus6661: icebox: We can replicate on two different machines here LOL What OS do you have?
[09:47:16] <icebox> Pyrhhus666: yep...
[09:47:18] <Pyrhhus666> pdobrogost, windows 10
[09:47:27] <icebox> pdobrogost: windows 10 with chrome and ff
[09:47:44] <icebox> pdobrogost: ah no sorry... window 8.1 with chrome and ff
[09:47:45] <Pyrhhus666> chrome beta, firefox beta, edge release
[09:47:53] <icebox> chrome latest and ff beta
[09:49:00] <icebox> anyway I didn't exactly understand what is the expectect and the actual and the steps to reproduce the issue described
[09:49:08] <icebox> *expected
[09:49:23] <Pyrhhus666> that might indeed be the problem
[09:49:58] <Pyrhhus666> I do this : fill in a date, input valid, clear, empty input is valid. repeat, input still valid when cleared.
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[09:52:48] <pdobrogost> Pyrhhus666: icebox: We see this on Linux and you are both on Windows. That could be the key difference here.
[09:53:24] <icebox> pdobrogost: no... please give the details, otherwise it is an "invalid" claim :)
[09:54:27] <icebox> pdobrogost: I suspect you think there is a wrong behaviour, but it is the expected one
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[09:55:24] <icebox> pdobrogost: so... without the steps to reproduce what you are experimenting, it is hard for us to replicate it (and to say if it is correct, wrong or expected)
[09:55:49] <pdobrogost> Pyrhhus666: icebox: Enter partial date -> $valid === false, clear $valid === true, enter partial date again, $valid === false, clear, now $valid === false but should be true again.
[09:55:59] <icebox> (and I bet on myForm.input.$valid) :)
[09:56:04] <Pyrhhus666> ah, a _partial_ date...
[09:56:12] <icebox> eheheheh
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[09:57:11] <Pyrhhus666> yup, can replicate on windows chrome.
[09:57:18] <pdobrogost> When $valid === false only the first clear makes it back true. Subsequent ones leave $valid === false which is wrong.
[09:58:01] <pdobrogost> Have you seen something like this before?
[09:58:13] <icebox> cannot replicate
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[09:59:08] <Pyrhhus666> my exact steps : put in 11 for month, nothing else. clear. repeat. valid=false.
[10:00:52] <icebox> Pyrhhus666: ok... the difference is how you clear the field :) using "X" I reproduce it
[10:00:57] <pdobrogost> Will try to find out if it was raised
[10:01:09] <icebox> pdobrogost: chrome bug
[10:01:21] <pdobrogost> You think so?
[10:01:29] <Pyrhhus666> icebox, funny, delete doesn´t show the bug indeed...
[10:01:37] <Pyrhhus666> *using delete
[10:01:39] <icebox> Pyrhhus666: exactly :)
[10:02:04] <icebox> pdobrogost: mayb it is not a bug... maybe it is an interpretation of the specs
[10:02:15] <pdobrogost> 99,9% of users seeing X icon will use it instead of using delete :)
[10:02:43] <icebox> pdobrogost: that is a wrong assumption... you don't know what the users do
[10:02:58] <Pyrhhus666> OT, but I find chrome´s date input a horrible implementation
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[10:03:09] <pdobrogost> This is good assumption. Users do the opposite to what people here do :()
[10:03:35] <Pyrhhus666> that´s always the case with devs, and certainly with linux users ;)
[10:04:04] <Pyrhhus666> lesson 1 as a dev : you are not nor ever will be a normal user.
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[10:08:39] <icebox> pdobrogost: what was your guesss about this?
[10:08:43] <icebox> *guess
[10:09:26] <icebox> pdobrogost: because with FF it works, so it cannot be angularjs... it seems something related to input datetime implementation
[10:10:04] <Pyrhhus666> edge works too (you can´t clear the input, so no problem :))
[10:10:37] <icebox> pdobrogost: did you read https://angularjshowtos.blogspot.it/2014/11/use-inputtypedatetime-local.html ?
[10:10:43] <pdobrogost> icebox: FF does NOT implement datetime-local and fallbacks to plain text field with no icon to clear
[10:11:05] <icebox> pdobrogost: exactly... you see only angularjs machinery at work
[10:11:08] <icebox> and it works
[10:11:14] <Pyrhhus666> that´s irrelevant for the bug if it were angularjs :)
[10:11:48] <icebox> pdobrogost: relevant section is "Querying Validity"
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[10:12:58] <pdobrogost> icebox: I haven't seen this one but already found out about "validity" – https://stackoverflow.com/q/49369662/95735 :)
[10:13:43] <zomg> Posted another programming game review vid on YT yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6NJhYncpvs
[10:13:56] <zomg> doing TIS-100 now... that one is.. kinda hardcore
[10:13:57] <zomg> :D
[10:15:14] <icebox> pdobrogost: hope that helps
[10:16:50] <pdobrogost> One "solution" is to remove this clear button LOL – https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16688417/how-to-remove-the-blue-cross-on-datetime-local-html-input-in-chrome-27
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[10:20:35] <SargoDarya> How's it going Pyrhhus666?
[10:20:59] <pdobrogost> It seems using required although this field is not meant to be required would be the way to go.
[10:21:35] <Pyrhhus666> morning SargoDarya... it´s ok :) no news on the apartment yet ?
[10:21:56] <icebox> Pyrhhus666: great news :)
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[10:22:11] <icebox> Pyrhhus666: you missed it
[10:22:16] <SargoDarya> Pyrhhus666: We got it actually
[10:22:35] <SargoDarya> So heavy partying
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[10:24:07] <Pyrhhus666> that´s good news indeed, congrats :) you heard it yesterday ?
[10:26:43] <SargoDarya> He sent the mail at 11pm
[10:27:13] <Pyrhhus666> cool stuff. so when are you moving in ?
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[10:37:35] <Elarcis> Good morning, human vermin!
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[10:38:00] <Pyrhhus666> good morning insect overlord
[10:38:10] <pdobrogost> There have been total of 20 bugs files in Chromium for datetime-local field… Strange.
[10:38:10] <pdobrogost> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=1&q=component%3ABlink%3EForms%3EDatetimelocal+&colspec=ID+Pri+M+Stars+ReleaseBlock+Component+Status+Owner+Summary+OS+Modified&x=m&y=releaseblock&cells=ids
[10:38:18] <Elarcis> Pyrhhus666: I am not an insect :c
[10:38:40] <Pyrhhus666> I am not vermin. although opinions might differ ;)
[10:40:14] <Elarcis> Pyrhhus666: damn, you got me good
[10:40:31] <Pyrhhus666> Elarcis, I try ;)
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[10:57:48] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
[11:00:26] <Elarcis> Hello, icebox :)
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[11:03:48] <pdobrogost> Filed a bug against chromium here https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=823662
[11:03:48] <pdobrogost> Please feel free to vote :)
[11:05:36] <icebox> pdobrogost: thanks... well filled
[11:06:42] <icebox> pdobrogost: I would add other os (like windows) and I would add the note if using backspace is ok
[11:08:00] <icebox> pdobrogost: after every step I would add also the valid state (true or false) with a comment (exptected, not expected
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[11:18:48] <pdobrogost> icebox: done. I don't see any votes however :)
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[11:19:30] <icebox> pdobrogost: cool
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[11:21:36] <Booster2ooo> Hello
[11:21:37] <dinosaadeh> hello, probably a noob question.. I have a directive that fetches its data and should interpolate the values fetched into its template.. on rare cases (but it happens), the template shows empty.. any ideas where I should investigate?
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[11:22:11] <icebox> Booster2ooo: hey
[11:22:34] <icebox> dinosaadeh: angularjs or angular?
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[11:22:52] <dinosaadeh> ummmm.. again noob, it is angular 1.x
[11:22:58] <dinosaadeh> which one that makes it
[11:23:16] <icebox> dinosaadeh: (angularjs is 1.x... angular is 2.x or higher)
[11:23:24] <Booster2ooo> I was wondering what is the difference between using the constructor of a component or the ngInit method (for obserbale subscription for instance, which one would be the best ?)
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[11:23:28] <dinosaadeh> ah ok, then it is angular js
[11:23:29] <icebox> dinosaadeh: so angualrjs :)
[11:23:59] <icebox> Booster2ooo: bindings initialization
[11:24:14] <icebox> dinosaadeh: any code?
[11:25:25] <icebox> Booster2ooo: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35763730/difference-between-constructor-and-ngoninit#35763811
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[11:28:58] <Elarcis> dinosaadeh: I second icebox, seeing your code would help troubleshooting
[11:29:05] <Anticom> Hi. I've got a link inside another element with a click event listener that's causing some trouble: https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-link-click?embed=1&file=app/hello.component.ts
[11:29:28] <Anticom> How do i get the link to register the first click instead of the second when clicking the link and not only the container
[11:30:01] <Elarcis> Booster2ooo: in a nutshell: at constructor time, the component is not yet properly inserted in the view, while in ngOnInit() all the bindings have been resolved and other stuff has been initialized.
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[11:31:55] <icebox_> Anticom: that is js... return false; :)
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[11:33:02] <Booster2ooo> Yes, I thought I understood but I didn't understand why it implies on the life time of the component itself. I guess I'll follow the guidelines and use the ngOnInit hook instead of the constructor. At the moment, I mixed them a little because of my lack of understanding of the underlying mechanisms
[11:34:12] <Elarcis> Booster2ooo: as a general rule, only use ngOnInit().
[11:34:20] <icebox_> Booster2ooo: here a worthy reading https://toddmotto.com/angular-constructor-ngoninit-lifecycle-hook
[11:34:45] <icebox_> Booster2ooo: "The ngOnInit lifecycle hook is a guarantee that your bindings are readily available."
[11:35:28] <Anticom> icebox_: where? :O
[11:35:51] <Elarcis> Booster2ooo: Angular needs to instantiate your component before it is able to put it in the view, it’s very simple. It’s like a car needing to be built before being delivered to its owner, or a baby needing being born before being named by its parents.
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[11:36:22] <Elarcis> Booster2ooo: the constructor tells how to construct the component, the init() code is ran when the component is in place.
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[11:36:47] <Elarcis> Booster2ooo: init() runs very shortly after the constructor, so you can safely put any logic in it rather than the constructor.
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[11:37:21] <icebox_> Anticom: ok... and be aware where you click... on the "div" or on the "a" :)
[11:37:48] <Anticom> clicking on the a, I've got a :hover changing the color of the text when i hover it
[11:37:54] <Anticom> so i'm certain i'm clicking the a
[11:38:06] <Anticom> if i click the div i want to container to toggle, that's working as expected
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[11:38:31] <Pyrrhus6661> Anticom, personally : what you´re doing feels like bad UX.
[11:38:45] <icebox_> Pyrrhus6661: agreed
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[11:39:42] <Pyrrhus6661> icebox_, have we seen the same disconnect ? our nicks are b0rken :)
[11:39:45] <icebox_> Anticom: here it works as expected... clicking on the div (grey part) the div is toggled, clicking on the "a" a new tab containing google page is opened
[11:39:48] <Anticom> Well the link is hardly ever clicked
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[11:39:55] <Anticom> it's just a convenience for the ppl who want it
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[11:40:00] <Anticom> writing some api documentation components
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[11:40:15] <Elarcis> Anticom: have the whole <a> be your header
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[11:40:32] <Anticom> Elarcis: going to be clicking the link is a rare case
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[11:40:53] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: thanks
[11:40:54] <Elarcis> Anticom: ah.
[11:41:02] <Elarcis> Anticom: fuck these guys then
[11:41:10] <Anticom> lol
[11:41:26] <Anticom> but still i'm triggered to know how to get this working tho
[11:42:09] <icebox> Anticom: ok... and I didn't understand what you expect :)
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[11:42:41] <Elarcis> icebox: when you click the link itsel, it sometimes closes the header rather than opening the link
[11:42:43] <Anticom> well if i click .header i'd like the collapsed to be toggled but if i click the link i'd like the browser to follow it's href
[11:42:54] <Anticom> Elarcis: right, i've got to click the link twice
[11:43:12] <Anticom> And i don't quite understand why the 2nd click works
[11:43:19] <icebox> so the idea is when it is clicked, toggling and opening?
[11:43:36] <Anticom> icebox: no just following the link but not fire my header's click event
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[11:44:19] <Elarcis> Anticom: in a click event, you have a property that tells what item was originally clicked, maybe you can use this to not toggle the header.
[11:44:27] <icebox> Anticom: so only opening?
[11:44:28] <Anticom> in my sources it's got a target="_blank" so it opens in a new tab
[11:44:39] <Anticom> icebox: yes
[11:44:46] <Elarcis> Anticom: very bad convention btw, but hey, people are used to it
[11:44:55] <icebox> Anticom: ok... so the ux is wrong as Pyrrhus666 said
[11:45:12] <Anticom> icebox: as i said it's only for like 2% of the users probably
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[11:45:22] <Anticom> but they want their burnt cookies
[11:46:00] * Anticom ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:46:06] <icebox> Anticom: and? that is a anti-pattern... I would expect someting to click on toggling (i.e. "+") and a classical link to open a new tab
[11:46:14] <Elarcis> Anticom: put the link above the header?
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[11:46:32] <Elarcis> Anticom: put a clickable zone in the header, next to the link?
[11:46:38] <icebox> maybe I don't understand the use case
[11:46:48] <Elarcis> Anticom: so both zones are separated but not visually?
[11:46:51] <Anticom> icebox: do you know swagger UI?
[11:47:07] <Elarcis> icebox: needs emerged from historically shitty UX
[11:47:08] <Pyrrhus666> with Elarcis : use a classic toggle button in front of the header for the collapsing
[11:47:08] <Anticom> icebox: basically i'm building a slim version of that with angular. But i'd like the resource url to be clickable
[11:47:11] <Anticom> that's all
[11:47:41] <Elarcis> Anticom: so that’s a new UI?
[11:47:54] <Elarcis> Anticom: and 2% of users already said they wanted to click on the link?
[11:47:55] <Anticom> Elarcis: i don't get your question, sorry
[11:48:39] <Anticom> No offense but why do people always have to question what i'm doing instead of answering a precicely formulated question...
[11:48:49] <Anticom> I know that it's shit but i'm not the one doing the decisions
[11:48:58] <Anticom> i'm just the dev having to do what other ppl want me to do
[11:49:04] <icebox> Anticom: you are right... but really I don't understand the use case
[11:49:14] <Anticom> icebox: do you know swagger UI?
[11:49:17] <icebox> no
[11:49:21] <Pyrrhus666> Anticom, it´s not your fault, but still bad UX ;)
[11:49:25] <Elarcis> Anticom: because you’re focusing on what icebox and Pyrrhus666 say and have not tried/answered any of _my_ propositions
[11:49:32] <Anticom> http://petstore.swagger.io/?_ga=2.72338515.1364542269.1521476674-1446568551.1489507567
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[11:50:01] <icebox> Anticom: ok... and?
[11:50:04] <Anticom> this is what I'm building. and i'd like the /pet etc. to be clickable and open the resource in a new tab
[11:50:23] <Elarcis> Anticom: so my proposition was: have the link in a separate element, with a top and bottom border, and have everything around it trigger the header.
[11:50:42] <Elarcis> Anticom: no event spaghetti, visually the same, works.
[11:50:45] <Anticom> Elarcis: this is basically what I'm having right now but just w/o the border (currently)
[11:50:50] <Anticom> my stuff isn't styled out yet
[11:51:02] <icebox> Anticom: that (petstore) is not your use case
[11:51:04] <Anticom> just want to get the basic bits and pieces working before putting a dress on that pig
[11:51:08] <Elarcis> Anticom: or even better, have everything wrapped in a tag with the border, so that it is more semantically correct
[11:51:19] <Anticom> icebox: it is, it's *exactly* what I'm building
[11:51:30] <icebox> Anticom: where is the link in petstore?
[11:51:45] <Anticom> Elarcis: i am going to care about some visual indication... jeez the stackblitz was just a concise example of my problem
[11:51:49] <Elarcis> icebox: pet/.
[11:51:55] <Elarcis> icebox: they want that link to be clickable.
[11:52:06] <Anticom> if i'm pasting like my full blown code i'm getting flamed for it being to bloated. Posting something minimal and you're missing the point
[11:52:09] <Anticom> ._.
[11:52:23] <icebox> ok... definetly I don't understand it... I am out
[11:53:00] <Anticom> I just want to understand why i need to click the link twice
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[11:53:12] <Anticom> i'd expect it to either work the first time or never work due to the click handler of the .header
[11:53:13] <icebox> Elarcis: (I don't see any call in network tab when I toggle "pet")
[11:53:33] <Anticom> icebox: plain vanilla a[href]
[11:53:43] <Anticom> icebox: have you looked at my stackblitz?
[11:53:46] <Elarcis> icebox: that’s the point, it’s not yet a link. Their use case is this very page, except they need the URL to be a link
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[11:53:59] <Anticom> Elarcis: correct
[11:54:02] <icebox> Anticom: sure... but it is different from petstore
[11:54:15] <Anticom> icebox: it's illustrating the problem instead of presenting the full blown page
[11:54:18] <Pyrrhus666> Anticom, something like this then : https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-link-click-95zyld?file=app/hello.component.ts
[11:54:59] <Anticom> Pyrrhus666: yea something along those lines. Still interesting that it the click event seems to bubble for me
[11:55:07] <Anticom> although you returned false
[11:55:19] <Pyrrhus666> Anticom, yeah, that´s kinda weird.
[11:56:11] <Anticom> And this is exactly what i'm not understanding
[11:56:37] <icebox> Anticom: use a function... not inline
[11:56:38] <Anticom> there's something strange (in the neighbourhood) going on
[11:56:38] <Elarcis> events are a mess, end of the story
[11:56:58] <Anticom> Elarcis: Well turn that into motivation to master them ;)
[11:57:14] <Anticom> That's why I'm trying to question and understand what's going on there
[11:57:22] <Elarcis> Anticom: nupe, I simply avoid working with them
[11:57:33] <Elarcis> Anticom: I havent touched native events in forever
[11:58:05] <Anticom> Elarcis: well but then you're working against one of angular's mojos aren't you? IMO they're trying not to fight the existing stuff but augment them
[11:58:23] <Anticom> Hence you need to know the native stuff
[11:59:20] <Anticom> But that might also just be my personal oppinion
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[12:20:57] <anli> Can an <option> have an object as value, not using ng-options, but <option ng-repeat>?
[12:21:01] <anli> Instead of a string
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[12:30:35] <Elarcis> Anticom: as I said, I haven’t touched native events in forever
[12:30:46] <Elarcis> anli: only with ng-options.
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[12:49:52] <Pyrrhus666> OT, rube goldberg : https://youtu.be/FR5WT12B_88
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[12:59:27] <grasschopper> I'm writing a component C that might want to make itself fullscreen. Can I, from the component C's source code, access itself as an element in order to request fullscreen?
[13:00:12] <grasschopper> I've noticed a bunch of examples using ViewChild, but imo it doesn't make sense to have the maximization code belong to the parent component
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[13:02:15] <Elarcis> grasschopper: @HostBinding
[13:02:59] <grasschopper> Thanks
[13:03:13] <Elarcis> grasschopper: like @HostBinding('class.fullscreen') fullscreenMode: boolean;
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[13:37:35] <pdobrogost> Pyrrhus666: icebox: It seems plain JavaScript (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/ValidityState) .validity.valid works ok in Chrome for datetime-local, it's only angularj's $valid which does now work…
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[13:38:00] <pdobrogost> s/now work/not work/
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[13:50:08] <Pyrrhus666> pdobrogost, https://plnkr.co/edit/nbwSoGNumlIns4cYKuJw?p=preview
[13:50:31] <Pyrrhus666> I can make both validity and $valid say false on a cleared input.
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[13:55:04] <icebox> Anticom: at last, resolved?
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[14:21:06] <pdobrogost> Pyrrhus666: I see. Try without angular here https://plnkr.co/edit/g4rjxIzZVnZMBXG2CZLQ?p=preview
[14:23:03] <Elarcis> bleghebleghebleh
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[14:23:40] <pdobrogost> ?
[14:24:22] <Pyrrhus666> pdobrogost, I see. still find it hard to believe it´s angular´s doing... sounds more like some weird compound chrome bug... luckily I don´t use it
[14:24:39] <Pyrrhus666> pdobrogost, never mind Elarcis, he´s special ;)
[14:26:27] <anli> It seems like the currency filter does not bother whats in my angular-locale_sv.js
[14:26:45] <anli> It uses kr even if I was writing "CURRENCY_SYM": "SEK"
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[14:31:58] <Anticom> icebox: postponed
[14:32:38] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: MY MOM TOLD ME I AM SPECIAL
[14:33:30] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, and she was right, you ARE...
[14:33:51] <Anticom> I realized a bigger problem for now icebox. I didn't take into account that i want my "generic" api-request-example component to be bound to a service call
[14:34:01] <Anticom> and now i'm thinking about how to actually do that.
[14:35:47] <Anticom> However i might just roll with feeding the example component just some http method and uri and fire a generic http request.
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[14:49:16] <EdwardIII> hey, what's a sane approach if i want to share components between a couple of projects? js, templates, scss and all
[14:49:48] <EdwardIII> i've read https://angular.io/guide/entry-components but i'm not sure if that's what it's actually for?
[14:53:05] <icebox> good question
[14:53:59] <icebox> "Whatcha talkin bout Willis"
[14:54:47] <icebox> EdwardIII: it is only a definition... bootstrap: [AppComponent] // bootstrapped entry component
[14:54:53] <Pyrrhus666> <captainamerica>I understood that reference !</captainamerica>
[14:55:09] <icebox> EdwardIII: "A bootstrapped component is necessarily an entry component because bootstrapping is an imperative process, thus it needs to have an entry component."
[14:55:25] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: you and me :)
[14:55:34] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: because we are old :)
[14:55:47] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, different strokes for different folks :P
[14:56:04] <icebox> :P
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[14:56:49] <icebox> EdwardIII: "if your app happens to bootstrap or dynamically load a component by type imperatively, you must add it to entryComponents explicitly."
[14:57:12] <icebox> EdwardIII: hope that helps
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[15:13:12] <EdwardIII> icebox: maybe i need to expand my angular knowledge a bit, i'm not sure if i need to bootstrap or dynamically load the component, or what it means to do it by typoe
[15:13:45] <EdwardIII> however does that mean as long as i import my components and add them to entryComponents, i should be able to access them via routes/other templates?
[15:15:34] <EdwardIII> i don't think i've ever seen an example of this out there so i'm not even sure how you'd package it
[15:15:47] <EdwardIII> whether you'd have a whole angular app for the shared components or... something else?
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[15:21:28] <Pyrrhus666> EdwardIII, if I read ´share components between projects´ I immediately think either a) copy/paste folders to reuse components or b) a component library
[15:22:00] <Pyrrhus666> I often use a), but if you want b), you should read (e.g.) this : https://medium.com/@nikolasleblanc/building-an-angular-4-component-library-with-the-angular-cli-and-ng-packagr-53b2ade0701e
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[15:23:56] <SargoDarya> We started kind of abusing angular material and now started doing our own UI framework because it just is so unflexible.
[15:24:10] <SargoDarya> As soon as you need to style it a little bit differently you SOL
[15:24:18] <Elarcis> THOSE GODDAMN SCROLLBARS
[15:25:14] <Pyrrhus666> THE AMOUNT OF SCROLLBARS IS TOO DAMN HIGH
[15:25:20] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: Looks like medium is down?
[15:25:39] <Anticom> My http interceptor doesn't seem to kick in: https://gist.github.com/Anticom/e883c4377b0636192a045bffb285050e can someone please help me diagnose the problem?
[15:25:46] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, I see... it worked 20 seconds ago...
[15:26:16] <Pyrrhus666> works now...
[15:26:58] <SargoDarya> Works again, yea
[15:27:39] <Elarcis> Why can’t scrollbars be clearly positionned? At some point, I was CERTAIN they didn’t take part in the element’s size, and now they do
[15:27:57] <Elarcis> My whole design can be anything but neat and aligned
[15:27:59] <SargoDarya> Elarcis sounds like a vein on his forehead is about to burst
[15:28:00] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, box-model changes ?
[15:28:33] <SargoDarya> afaik on windows the scrollbars are always reducing the width of a container
[15:28:42] <SargoDarya> Not so on MacOS
[15:28:43] <Pyrrhus666> just do overflow: hidden; and fuck the scrollbars :P
[15:29:00] <Elarcis> I understand why SO MANY devs just implement their own JS scrollbars
[15:29:07] <Elarcis> It’s a freacking mess
[15:29:20] <Pyrrhus666> which makes it even worse.
[15:29:20] <SargoDarya> And I fucking hate it.
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[15:29:27] <SargoDarya> Thanks Pyrrhus666
[15:29:27] <Elarcis> Plus the fact that for 20 years no standard has ever been emitted for styling them.
[15:29:47] <SargoDarya> Well, you could at some point.
[15:30:02] <Pyrrhus666> funny, I´ve seldom had problems with scrollbars... y´all are doing funky stuff :P
[15:30:06] <SargoDarya> That's long ago though
[15:30:09] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: then Firefox appeared
[15:30:12] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: :D
[15:30:13] <Anticom> wow i never noticed that Elarcis
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[15:30:28] <Pyrrhus666> IE could style scrollbars just fine. go back to that :P
[15:31:29] <Pyrrhus666> also: scrollbars are an OS thing, not being able to style them is good UX, imho.
[15:31:47] <Anticom> It shouldn't be an issue to provide HTTP_INTERCEPTORS in a module other than my AppModule right?
[15:31:54] <EdwardIII> Pyrrhus666: thanks for the pointers
[15:31:56] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: tell that to our dev who decided to style then anywayyyy
[15:31:59] <SargoDarya> Anticom: Haven't had that problem yet
[15:32:22] <Anticom> Hm i just don't get it
[15:32:25] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, devs styling scrollbars ? tsk :P
[15:32:28] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: BUT it still is a pain that scrollbars being an OS thing, they should impact my layout without me having a choice in it.
[15:32:43] <SargoDarya> Well, there's always shit like this: http://utatti.github.io/perfect-scrollbar/
[15:33:14] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, yeah, ´shit´ it is...
[15:33:17] <Elarcis> ^
[15:34:01] <SargoDarya> Still not as bad as the fucking pages which try to make smooth scrolling a thing
[15:34:17] <SargoDarya> Just that I'm already smooth scrolling with my mouse.
[15:34:58] <SargoDarya> Usually they also have the fucking on scroll handler set which on mobile is even more annoying because you can't fucking swipe back to go to the previous page.
[15:35:13] <SargoDarya> Fuck with my scroll => Fuck your page.
[15:35:36] <SargoDarya> Fucky fuckity fuck,
[15:35:39] <Anticom> this is so frustrating. Is there anywhere i can check in my dev console whether the interceptor is actually loaded?
[15:35:42] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: smooth scrolling is a setting in most browsers.
[15:36:01] <SargoDarya> Elarcis: Exactly, but there are some pages which fuck around with it.
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[15:36:59] <Pyrrhus666> Anticom, I only use them in app.module, and never have a problem. from your code I can´t really conclude anything...
[15:37:12] <Pyrrhus666> Anticom, maybe try a stackblitz ?
[15:37:14] <SargoDarya> https://envato.com/blog/scroll-hijacking/
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[15:38:51] <Anticom> Just to make sure i understand the concepts right: I've provided the interceptor only in the ModuleWithProviders so i can provide them at root scope. I've got an ApiModule which is actually using the HttpClient by importing it. And since my AppModule imports the ApiModule, the HTTP_INTERCEPTOR should get passed down to it, right?
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[15:42:45] <Anticom> Hm, provided it in my AppModule now, still doesn't work
[15:43:16] <Anticom> The AppModule doesn't actually need to import HttpClientModule in order for the interceptor to work since the provided stuff get's passed down right?
[15:43:25] <Anticom> #hierarchicalinjector and stuff
[15:44:12] <Pyrrhus666> Anticom, what if you make an empty interceptor, just calling console.log() before returning next.handle(req) ?
[15:44:35] <Pyrrhus666> must be something fishy in the interceptor itself...
[15:44:37] <Anticom> Pyrrhus666: how would that change anything?
[15:44:48] <Pyrrhus666> to see if it´s actually called ?
[15:44:50] <Anticom> if intercept() doesn't get called what comes after my first console.log won't matter much
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[15:46:43] <Anticom> now that's interesting. I've logged a message in the interceptor's ctor but this never get's logged
[15:46:49] <Anticom> although I've provided it
[15:46:52] * Anticom scratches head
[15:47:28] <Pyrrhus666> I suspect it´s something funny with your do() stuff. does it get called if you simply return next.handle(req) ?
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[15:59:12] <Anticom> Pyrrhus666: i replaced it with return next.handle(req) temporarily
[15:59:18] <Anticom> still no success
[15:59:26] <Anticom> i suppose it's not getting provided properly
[15:59:41] <Pyrrhus666> Anticom, really weird... I never have a problem using an interceptor..
[16:00:09] <Anticom> Does anyone know when an interceptor get's constructed? during bootstrapping or on demand?
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[16:02:14] <Pyrrhus666> Anticom, if you provide it through app.modules providers array instead of via the sharedmodule´s forRoot ?
[16:02:27] <Anticom> Pyrrhus666: tried that as well
[16:02:28] <Anticom> no success
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[16:02:40] <Anticom> but that shouldn't make a difference any way
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[16:03:00] <Anticom> since i'm still providing it at root scobe
[16:03:02] <Anticom> scope*
[16:03:12] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, it was just to be sure...
[16:03:23] <Pyrrhus666> I must say I´m stumped...
[16:05:50] <Anticom> hm actually looks like an ng serve bug
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[16:06:06] <Anticom> just for kicks i'm now serving my app via http-server after ng build --prod
[16:06:10] <Anticom> and now it seems to work LOL
[16:06:20] <Anticom> ng cli is getting worse and worse...
[16:06:38] <Pyrrhus666> still weird. I always use ´ng serve --aot´ and no problems with interceptors...
[16:07:24] <Anticom> hm no wait
[16:07:26] <Anticom> still doesn't work
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[16:33:15] <SargoDarya> Funny thing from last week. I saw someone getting beaten up by two guys, ran after the two guys, asked them what the fuck they were thinking.
[16:33:50] <SargoDarya> Apparently I was crashing a movie scene.
[16:33:58] <Pyrrhus666> haha :)
[16:35:06] <SargoDarya> Yea, they told me to keep it up though. Wouldn't be surprised if they'd let that in. Can't possibly get more real than that.
[16:36:26] <Pyrrhus666> an unwitting film-debut :)
[16:40:01] <Pyrrhus666> OT: having a file selected in a file input, and then changing it on disk before posting leads to interesting errors...
[16:40:24] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: wut :D
[16:41:14] <SargoDarya> Elarcis: Yea, wasn't the hero the city needed then xD
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[16:55:19] <jlebrech_> is bower dead as a dodo?
[16:57:39] <SargoDarya> jlebrech_: You should move to yarn
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[16:58:44] <jlebrech_> hehe, yep have moved. now have npm, gulp, grunt, yarn, bower :D
[16:59:04] <SargoDarya> *throws up*
[16:59:08] <jlebrech_> lol
[16:59:14] <SargoDarya> Why not also add webpack and rollup?
[16:59:24] <jlebrech_> yeah, got webpack too
[16:59:30] <SargoDarya> And a little sprinkle of docker
[16:59:31] <jlebrech_> need a clearout
[16:59:47] <SargoDarya> Also while you're at it use at least 3 different test frameworks
[16:59:58] <jlebrech_> omg
[17:00:26] <jlebrech_> nothing ever does 100% of a job.
[17:00:36] <SargoDarya> Honestly, from these: npm, gulp, grunt, yarn I'd probably just use yarn.
[17:00:44] <SargoDarya> and then use package scripts
[17:02:12] <jlebrech_> what the minimum amount of tools now?
[17:02:18] <jlebrech_> for angular5
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[17:05:30] <SargoDarya> let me check
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[17:10:55] <SargoDarya> jlebrech_: If you only consider what's in package.json, then it's 16 dependencies.
[17:11:12] <SargoDarya> That's not counting child dependencies.
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[17:13:06] <SargoDarya> doing an ls -l | wc -l returns 701 node-modules on a minimal installation
[17:13:54] <SargoDarya> Note that this does NOT take namespaced modules into account
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[17:23:08] <jlebrech_> i was using bower_components (gonna phase that out), how do I load a font from the node_modules folder? :( webpack2+angularjs. I feel dumb
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[17:25:23] <jlebrech_> well the error message is helping
[17:27:53] <jlebrech_> why does js ecosystem keep crossing the steams? eh, include css in a js file....
[17:28:14] <SargoDarya> jlebrech_: Boy would you have fun working with react...
[17:28:40] <jlebrech_> sarcasm?
[17:29:07] <jlebrech_> i'm thinking of rewriting everything in vue
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[17:29:27] <SargoDarya> Why vue'd you do this?
[17:29:39] <jlebrech_> @{
[17:29:42] <jlebrech_> :P
[17:30:07] <jlebrech_> oh, i know css/html/js are in the same component
[17:30:11] <jlebrech_> and it just works
[17:30:29] <jlebrech_> i don't mind bad idea as long as they are well implemented
[17:32:07] <jlebrech_> maybe i should focus on cutting out bower first
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[17:41:00] <dman777> for unit testing with jasmine...default ng test set up.... has anyone had success running it on a headless server? xvfb-run ng test does not work.
[17:41:18] <Anticom> dman777: headless *server*?
[17:41:37] <Anticom> I've used chrome in headless mode before
[17:41:40] <Anticom> worked a treat
[17:41:44] <Anticom> however i moved on to testcafe
[17:42:13] <dman777> Anticom: how did you run ng test and have chrome in headless mode?
[17:42:15] <Anticom> such speed, much fast
[17:42:54] <Ownix> When you guys took on learning Angular 5 did you know TypeScript? There is a ton of TS files and hooplah in my project that is virtually magic to me.
[17:43:26] <Ownix> I took the Heroes tutorial and finished it, but they did not mention much about typings, or tsconfigs
[17:43:43] <Anticom> Ownix: do you know JS?
[17:43:53] <Anticom> dman777: looking
[17:44:56] <Ownix> Anticom: yes, pretty well. And C# pretty well, and TS makes a lot of sense, I understand it. But the tooling around it, and nested configs are what is confusing. Plus angulars integration with it via the angular-cli.json (which was not really touched on much during the tutorial either)
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[17:46:01] <Anticom> Ownix: well TS is literally *just* JS + typings. If you know C# you know about classes and interfaces and enums
[17:46:07] <Anticom> oh and templates
[17:46:13] <Ownix> the .angular-cli.json is like a WebPack config wrapper
[17:46:15] <Anticom> same concepts apply
[17:46:22] <Ownix> Anticom: templates?
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[17:47:52] <dman777> Anticom: I get 20 03 2018 16:46:03.214:WARN [karma]: No captured browser, open http://localhost ... but I have '--headless', '--disable-gpu', in karma.conf.js
[17:47:55] <Anticom> dman777: https://gist.github.com/Anticom/340d75d657ca5a6b5c6f789011dc9fb2
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[17:48:14] <Anticom> the Chrome_docker is the one you want
[17:48:32] <Anticom> that worked for us
[17:48:37] <Anticom> can't remember what the issue was
[17:48:44] <dman777> well, no docker here... this is just for local dev
[17:48:54] <Anticom> you could also read into http://cvuorinen.net/2017/05/running-angular-tests-in-headless-chrome/
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[17:50:11] <Anticom> gotta run
[17:50:12] <Anticom> o/
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[18:16:43] <AtumT> How do I set an element height based on its parent element height?
[18:17:02] <AtumT> they are separated components
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[19:01:22] <gabriel_> hola
[19:01:38] <gabriel_> alguien sabe como conectar angular con firebase
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[19:04:41] <niyer> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14704147/how-to-use-ng-repeat-to-iterate-over-map-entries-in-angularjs
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[19:37:58] <Ownix> Do you guys use the new Angular Service Worker thing? Is that something I need to worry about right now?
[19:38:18] <selckin> only if you want to earn the big bucks
[19:41:42] <Ownix> Is it something that cam be implemented later on?
[19:41:47] <Ownix> can*
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[20:39:11] <dgo> hi there. I want to build a client only (no backend) ng app with Google auth and write my data on gdrive. Do someone has any advices or experiences ?
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[21:13:58] <Ownix> is everyone here using Angular Material?
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[22:34:04] <BlinkyBill_> good morning
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