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[08:34:07] <icebox> hey folks
[08:35:59] <icebox> OT: Stack Overflow Culture - https://codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2018/03/17/stack-overflow-culture/amp/
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[08:36:17] <Ez> angularjs
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[08:36:34] <icebox> Ez: hey
[08:36:51] <Ez> hi
[08:37:54] <Ez> Which is best tutorial for Angularjs
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[08:39:17] <Magnumes> good morning ;)
[08:39:24] <icebox> Ez: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide and https://ultimateangular.com/ and https://egghead.io/technologies/angularjs
[08:39:32] <icebox> Magnumes: hey
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[09:06:15] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
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[09:12:20] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hey
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[09:18:11] <Elarcis> Yoo
[09:18:57] <Elarcis> How well are you all synthetizing CO₂?
[09:19:08] <SargoDarya> Morning mate o/
[09:19:20] <Pyrrhus666> morning icebox Elarcis SargoDarya
[09:19:28] <Booster2ooo> o/
[09:19:35] <Elarcis> Good morning, SargoDarya and Pyrrhus666 \o
[09:19:46] <Elarcis> And good monday to you!
[09:19:52] <SargoDarya> Update: We're in the last phase of getting a flat. 1 out of 3 remaining and we get the decision this week :D
[09:20:19] <Pyrrhus666> fingers crossed...
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[09:21:30] <Elarcis> *tentacles crossed
[09:21:44] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
[09:21:52] <icebox> SargoDarya: hey
[09:21:58] <SargoDarya> Morning icebox
[09:22:22] <icebox> OT: Stack Overflow Culture - https://codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2018/03/17/stack-overflow-culture/amp/
[09:22:31] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: about what we said recently ^
[09:23:03] <icebox> really chain tool is not ready for ES2015... sigh
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[09:25:14] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, unfortunately people tend to be jerks anyway, covenant or not...
[09:26:50] <Elarcis> icebox: sadly agreed
[09:27:30] <icebox> at least it was not only a feeling in our context... sadly
[09:28:24] <Elarcis> icebox: I documented myself to see whether it’d be simple enough yet comfortable to dev in vanilla ES2015 + esm, phew, it feels like without a bundler/transpiler you’re very quickly limited.
[09:28:35] <Elarcis> icebox: (in terms of library/frameworks, I mean)
[09:29:51] <icebox> Elarcis: agreed... exactly that... for instance if I load vendor libs via script tags and and user base code via script type="module"... vscode complains with "Cannot find name" for globals vendor objects due to https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/26338
[09:30:04] <icebox> *and the user base code
[09:30:16] <Elarcis> VueJS: "oh yeah you develop in .vue files which regroup HTML, CSS and JS". React: "oh yeah, we use JSX which puts HTML in JS". Polymer: "oh yeah, we provide a polyfill for that cool-sounding but experimental feature". Angular: "oh yeah we don’t really support ES2015 btw"
[09:30:33] <icebox> Elarcis: gread summary ^ :)
[09:30:37] <icebox> *great
[09:31:06] <icebox> sadly we are in 2018... and ES2015 is far away
[09:31:52] <Elarcis> it is incredible that ES2015 is globally supported by everything except frameworks and developers.
[09:32:44] <icebox> yep
[09:33:08] <icebox> and then there is also the test frameworks... totally lack of ES2015 support
[09:33:15] <Elarcis> it is like we designed a Ferrari but everyone is still driving a Traban because "yeah, Trabans are _more reliable_".
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[09:35:24] <Pyrrhus666> *trabant ?
[09:36:11] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: oups, you are right
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[09:36:28] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: damn, where did I order my car then?
[09:36:31] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: :P
[09:36:59] <Pyrrhus666> hopefully at a place that still makes cars ;)
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[09:38:28] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: yup, luckily I never owned a Trabant, even though my car is falling appart like one.
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[09:43:19] <icebox> Elarcis: anyway, apart the tools, I gave a try using script type="module" and all it works... the result was hundreds of requests and 3 seconds to load
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[09:44:10] <icebox> Elarcis: on the pros... I would remove bundler deps and bundling step
[09:44:50] <icebox> Elarcis: (three seconds for the first time, not in cache)
[09:45:07] <icebox> for a SPA may be a feasible behaviour
[09:45:12] <icebox> *it may be
[09:45:27] <Elarcis> icebox: heh.
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[09:47:46] <sonda> I got disconnected
[09:48:04] <icebox> sonda: hey
[09:48:14] <sonda> hello
[09:48:44] <sonda> ui-router has no role to play as such in maintaining state of application right?
[09:49:29] <Elarcis> sonda: right
[09:49:58] <Elarcis> sonda: though one of its role is to transmit non-persistent state between views.
[09:51:48] <icebox> interesting... I would say the opposite... the client routing represents the serialized state of the view :)
[09:52:34] <icebox> maybe we should define "state", "persistent" and "serialization" :)
[09:52:41] <Elarcis> icebox: I don’t agree… each view has a "public" and "private" state. Routing only interacts with the public state.
[09:53:10] <icebox> Elarcis: ahahah... :) ok... add the serialized public state of the view
[09:53:51] <Elarcis> icebox: maybe we should define "public".
[09:54:08] <icebox> Elarcis: https://leanpub.com/router/read_sample
[09:54:40] <icebox> Chapter 1 - "The router cares about application components, or, to be more specific, about their arrangements. Let’s call such component arrangements router states. So a router state defines what is visible on the screen."
[09:54:48] <sonda> i thought that state is for knowing if you(controller) is common parent of your children?
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[09:55:05] <icebox> sonda: no
[09:55:21] <Elarcis> icebox: I agree with that definition
[09:55:25] <sonda> thats the public state you are refering to right?
[09:55:26] <icebox> Elarcis: me too :)
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[09:56:55] <Pyrrhus666> further in that chapter ¨Isn’t it all about the URL? [...] In other words, a URL is nothing but a serialized router state.¨
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[09:57:15] <Elarcis> so we are talking about router state.
[09:57:39] <Pyrrhus666> in a lot of cases router state === app state
[09:58:19] <icebox> yep... but the term "public" introduced by Elarcis is interesting
[09:58:21] <Pyrrhus666> before that snippet I posted : ¨ In a well-behaved web application, any application state transition results in a URL change, and any URL change results in a state transition.¨
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[09:58:37] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, agreed.
[09:59:33] <icebox> sonda: worthy reading about routing https://vsavkin.com/angular-router-understanding-router-state-7b5b95a12eab and https://blog.nrwl.io/managing-state-in-angular-applications-22b75ef5625f
[09:59:38] <sonda> Pyrrhus666: you mean to say, all related parameters that form the state of app, must be in URL
[10:00:18] <Pyrrhus666> sonda, it´s not a must, but it´s generally nice
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[10:00:46] <Pyrrhus666> things tend to change when auth is involved, of course
[10:03:08] <Pyrrhus666> OT : that documentation site is a nice example of not having state in the url, so you can´t really share the links...
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[10:03:59] <Pyrrhus666> which sucks, tbh.
[10:05:14] <ray02> hello hello
[10:05:21] <ray02> morning!
[10:05:23] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
[10:08:32] <icebox> ray02: hey
[10:09:03] <mousecursor> In a component, I'm rendering a list of child components of type C, each of which have their own child divs and whatnots. Each one of them must be able to perform some direct manipulation of x, y position of their own child elements, but not others' elements. What's the appropriate approach here?
[10:09:17] <ray02> did you had a nice weekend buddy?
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[10:13:10] <icebox> ray02: great one... thanks
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[10:25:53] <ray02> icebox yeah :)
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[10:29:43] <yhhh> hello
[10:29:56] <yhhh> anyone
[10:29:58] <yhhh> there
[10:30:02] <yhhh> to help
[10:30:10] <yhhh> in angularjs
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[10:30:34] <yhhh> anyone
[10:30:36] <yhhh> there
[10:30:40] <Elarcis> yhhh: only if you form one sentence per message please.
[10:30:40] <yhhh> hello
[10:30:45] <Elarcis> yhhh: we are not your dogs :)
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[10:31:28] <yhhh> I am trying to write a directive in angularjs js and want to send some parameters ...
[10:31:37] <yhhh> I am not able to send
[10:32:23] <Elarcis> yhhh: what did you try? Can we see some code?
[10:32:23] <icebox> yhhh: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/directive
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[10:36:32] <yhhh> <payment-details order-detail="pass-data-obj"></payment-details>
[10:36:47] <icebox> yhhh: perfect... did you read the guide?
[10:36:52] <yhhh> is this the correct way to send parameters in directives
[10:36:59] <yhhh> yup thank u
[10:37:07] <icebox> yhhh: ok... and what is your concern?
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[10:37:33] <icebox> yhhh: yes, it is correct and "here, it works" :)
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[10:37:46] <yhhh> how can i get this pass-data-obj value
[10:38:02] <Elarcis> yhhh: like you did, except you’re saying this doesn’t work :)
[10:38:05] <yhhh> i am giving this.PassDataObj but am not able to fetch
[10:38:12] <Elarcis> yhhh: what version of AngularJS are you using?
[10:38:24] <yhhh> 1.5.8
[10:38:52] <Elarcis> yhhh: can you make a small example there and share it with us? https://stackblitz.com/edit/angularjs-irc-starter
[10:39:22] <Elarcis> yhhh: (yes, I recommend using components rather than directives, you’ll have a better time making it work)
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[10:40:31] <yhhh> give me 5 mins
[10:40:33] <Elarcis> yhhh: directives are very "low level", while your need seems perfectly covered by AngularJS’s components, available since 1.5.
[10:41:01] <yhhh> but we are using directives lot of places in our project
[10:41:16] <Elarcis> yhhh: if it is an old project, it is understandable
[10:41:24] <icebox> yhhh: https://plnkr.co/edit/Ewnlqyr9mNDn0a9iDuED?p=preview
[10:41:27] <Elarcis> yhhh: that doesn’t mean you’re stuck with directives
[10:41:34] <icebox> yhhh: that is a modified example you find in the guide
[10:41:37] <yhhh> almost all our project code is made of directives
[10:41:58] <Elarcis> yhhh: yes?
[10:42:26] <Elarcis> yhhh: that doesn’t mean you’re stuck with directives
[10:42:31] <Elarcis> yhhh: especially using 1.5
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[10:44:05] <Elarcis> yhhh: anyway, if you could provide us with a working example of how you declared your directive, template and how you are using this directive, you’d get better help
[10:44:06] <icebox> yhhh: hope the example I provided helps
[10:45:23] <icebox> yhhh: (and if you use that kind of directive, you should use components) :)
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[10:47:55] <icebox> Elarcis: anyway I love angularjs :)
[10:48:17] <Elarcis> icebox: especially the ES6 one
[10:48:32] <icebox> Elarcis: that is absolutely a piece of cake
[10:49:03] <Elarcis> icebox: not to learn for beginners, sadly.
[10:49:23] <Elarcis> icebox: someone really ought to make a comprehensive ES6-based tutorial
[10:49:37] <icebox> as I said vuejs is a distilled version of angularjs... but angularjs is a bit more simple
[10:50:19] <icebox> maybe we should fork angularjs, remove all the quirks and maintain the main use cases :)
[10:50:47] <icebox> for 80/20 cases it is perfect
[10:51:07] <Elarcis> icebox: I don’t think it’s worth removing the quirks at the cost of 20% of cases.
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[10:51:38] <icebox> Elarcis: no... I didn't explain well... I would remove those parts supporting only the 20% of cases
[10:51:47] <Elarcis> icebox: which parts?
[10:52:34] <icebox> "replace"? a few complex parts in the compiler? IE support?
[10:53:01] <icebox> for me angularjs would be aimed to develop apps and not widgets
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[10:53:47] <icebox> nowadays there are solid and established best practices for angularjs... the rest should be ignored and not supported
[10:53:56] <Elarcis> icebox: SO MUCH YES FOR REPLACE
[10:54:06] <icebox> no? ok... use angular :)
[10:54:15] <Elarcis> icebox: haha
[10:55:24] <icebox> or rewriting angularjs (from http://blog.mgechev.com/2015/03/09/build-learn-your-own-light-lightweight-angularjs/) simulating the same api but supporting only the main use cases :)
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[10:57:55] <icebox> the point would be that kind of framework would not have any market... people would start to say it is slow (due the old approach of change detection - dirty checking), it doesn't support that feature (computed variables) or something else
[10:58:30] <Pyrrhus666> so skip it and just do vuejs ?
[10:58:51] <icebox> yes and no
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[10:59:19] <Pyrrhus666> you can´t both use and not use vuejs :P
[10:59:22] <icebox> for me angularjs is really fascinating because the idea behind is simple and it works
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[11:00:20] <icebox> DI, dirty checking and components in ES2015 fashion are great features
[11:00:45] <icebox> ok... they have a few drawbacks, but again for the main use cases, the framework works :)
[11:01:23] <icebox> see the directive example above... it seems magic
[11:01:49] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, but that´s true for just about any framework that´s actually used ;)
[11:02:01] <Pyrrhus666> if it wouldn´t work, it wouldn´t be used...
[11:03:26] <icebox> the point with angularjs it doesn't introduce really something new... no jsx, no vue, no vdom, no build step and so on
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[11:04:23] <icebox> I mean, when you understood the reference stuff with change detection, you learnt angularjs
[11:04:36] <icebox> and that is js, not angularjs :)
[11:04:56] <icebox> ok... stop nostalgic mode :)
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[11:05:34] <Pyrrhus666> ;) get with the times gramps, everybody uses a fancy bundler nowadays ;_
[11:06:22] <Pyrrhus666> and I must say, both with vue-cli and angular-cli, a normal webpack setup ´just works´, in a good way.
[11:07:07] <Pyrrhus666> does it have drawbacks ? sure. but being the pragmatic coder that I am, I can work with those tools to get things done.
[11:07:50] <Pyrrhus666> also : using the full power of es2015 would be nice, but ts will do for now ;)
[11:08:35] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: sure... but... just to focus about the import statement... we all write... import foo from "./foo"; // because we use a bundler... but the correct syntax is "./foo.js"... minor detail but still you need to write ina a different way to be "compatible" or "standard"
[11:09:44] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yes, that´s one of the drawbacks, it´s not 100% compatible. maybe it will be, who knows...
[11:09:48] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I found it funny how using TS so far only closed me one door: HyperHTML, whose creator is a huge detractor of TS
[11:10:12] <Pyrrhus666> although compared with other languages, having to add the file-extension is kinda weird ;)
[11:10:56] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, hehe. the guy has a point, it´s a pity he´s kinda stuck on it though.
[11:11:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: yeah he has a point
[11:11:30] <icebox> (just for reference... https://jakearchibald.com/2017/es-modules-in-browsers/)
[11:11:56] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: well, in 3 years we’ll get Blazor, and bye bye JS :P
[11:12:08] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, not holding my breath ;)
[11:12:53] <icebox> I second Pyrrhus666
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[11:17:21] <Pyrrhus666> I find it kind of funny though that blazor uses mono instead of ms´s own stuff.
[11:17:43] <Pyrrhus666> kind of shows how far miguel has taken it...
[11:17:46] <icebox> I think that is the new course of MS
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[11:18:08] <icebox> in terms of open-source
[11:18:23] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, could be. for me, mono is still the project that brings .net to linux
[11:18:28] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: probably because Mono has a longer history of cross-platforming than .NET Core has
[11:18:53] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, I remember the origins. played with pre-releases too.
[11:19:19] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: (about ddg... but is there a way to display the date, the timestamp of the results?)
[11:19:35] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: (it is my only concern about ddg)
[11:19:40] <Pyrrhus666> as a gnome-user I felt I had to ;) (miguel being a core gnome dev before mono)
[11:20:03] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I’m not holding my breath for Blazor. I am holding my breath for back-end to webasm languages and framework… new systems that abstract away the frontier between client and server without resorting to weird JS code.
[11:20:07] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: (I could not find any definitive comment about that feature request)
[11:20:21] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, no idea, never tried to use it...
[11:21:27] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, not holding my breath for that either, but that could happen...
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[11:21:59] <Elarcis> Meanwhile, on BTC planet: "It’s gonna go up again one day, then you’ll be sorry you didn’t invest!" https://charts.bitcoin.com/chart/price
[11:22:42] <Elarcis> I, for my part, already feel so sorry… for those who invested in a rush on december.
[11:22:47] <icebox> yhhh quit...
[11:23:12] <icebox> a small sigh
[11:23:15] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, I don´t. stupid is as stupid does.
[11:23:18] <Elarcis> icebox: predictible.
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[11:27:01] <Tresco> Hi
[11:27:16] <Tresco> I have not worked with Angular 5 so far and I'm a little confused. If I want to develop with bootstrap, an application, I need to install it or not? I ask this because I saw in app.modules.ts this piece of code "bootstrap: [AppComponent]" and I thought there might be no need for separate installation. Thanks for everyone.
[11:28:21] <Pyrrhus666> Tresco, no, that´s bootstrapping the app, as in starting it up
[11:28:29] <Pyrrhus666> no relations to the css framework
[11:29:25] <Pyrrhus666> if you want to dev with bootstrap in angular, see https://ng-bootstrap.github.io/#/home
[11:29:32] <Tresco> aaa ok ty vm
[11:33:02] <Tresco> I need a "special" bootstrap for angular?
[11:33:50] <Pyrrhus666> not for the css, only for the js part. and a lib like this integrates that nicely in angular
[11:34:10] <Pyrrhus666> (and generally makes your life easier)
[11:35:36] <Tresco> even I install others bootstrap dependencies like jQuery ..?
[11:36:47] <icebox> Tresco: you don't need jquery, because you don't use the js part of Boostrap
[11:36:53] <Pyrrhus666> generally, you don´t mix jquery with angular.
[11:37:19] <icebox> Tresco: you use the css part and ng-boostrap replaces the "original" js part of Bootstrap
[11:38:08] <icebox> Tresco: see here https://ng-bootstrap.github.io/#/getting-started yellow note
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[11:40:33] <Tresco> then i dont need to load any script in html body .... right?
[11:40:56] <Tresco> jquery popper...
[11:41:12] <Pyrrhus666> bo, you don´t
[11:41:14] <Pyrrhus666> *no
[11:41:23] <Tresco> ok ty vm
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[11:42:28] <Tresco> and the last one :)
[11:42:44] <Tresco> this works even with scss style
[11:42:47] <Tresco> ?
[11:43:51] <Pyrrhus666> Tresco, it can, yes. but that´s about the css part, so _not_ ng-bootstrap.
[11:44:06] <Tresco> if all the rest are on scss
[11:44:09] <Pyrrhus666> no experience though
[11:44:32] <max_at> hello :)
[11:44:34] <Elarcis> Tresco: Angular allows for SCSS
[11:44:36] <icebox> max_at: hey
[11:44:44] <Pyrrhus666> Tresco, this seems relevant : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45660802/how-to-use-bootstrap-4-with-sass-in-angular
[11:44:45] <Elarcis> Tresco: I mean Angular’s CLI config.
[11:45:27] <Tresco> yes I setup with --style=scss
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[11:46:52] <max_at> Tresco: yes, and you can import the bs4 stuff you want to use in your scss .. eg @import '../../../node_modules/bootstrap/scss/_mixins'; @import '../../../node_modules/bootstrap/scss/_normalize'; @import '../../../node_modules/bootstrap/scss/_reboot';
[11:47:36] <max_at> Tresco: with this approach, you are able to import only the stuff you need .. like _grid, _buttons, _forms, _alert, etc.
[11:48:04] <Tresco> ty vm to all you saved my day
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[11:50:05] <Tresco> back to work :))
[11:51:10] <Tresco> have a nice day!
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[11:53:12] <icebox> too late for Tresco... https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-irc-starter-11cqz9?file=app%2Fapp.component.html
[11:53:24] <icebox> I am too slow :)
[11:54:41] <Pyrrhus666> ng-bootstrap needs to switch to stackblitz ;)
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[11:59:19] <icebox> :P
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[12:41:28] <MickeySoFine> Morning all!
[12:42:43] <MickeySoFine> I have a form text field that I'm watching for an (input) event on, when its triggered I use and eventemitter to tell my components parent that the value has changed
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[12:43:33] <MickeySoFine> only thing is, its blanking the input field when I call the emit() on that event when I have 2 way binding on the input
[12:43:43] <MickeySoFine> any ideas why that is happening?
[12:43:53] <MickeySoFine> its angular 4 btw
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[12:44:51] <sonda> i have an angularjs question.. I have a list controller which has a list of surveys... on clicking build-link menu, a different route is triggered, to which i pass id of the survey and get the survey object again in that controller... can i not pass the survey object I already have with me in the list controller
[12:45:48] <sonda> is it not possible via resolve?
[12:46:30] <sonda> but i define my routes in app.js...
[12:46:51] <sonda> how can i pass a scope variable of list controller there
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[12:48:08] <sonda> icebox: you there?
[12:50:08] <MickeySoFine> nm, I fixed it myself :)
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[13:31:34] <icebox> back
[13:31:42] <icebox> MickeySoFine: hey
[13:32:21] <icebox> sonda
[13:32:27] <icebox> sonda: use services :)
[13:33:53] <Pyrrhus666> OT : failing UI : https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/fcc-finally-specifies-cause-2016-level-3-network-outage
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[14:23:31] <icebox> a few interesting issues for release 6.x... https://github.com/angular/angular/milestone/81
[14:27:50] <Pyrrhus666> looks like massive issues... I mean, it´s only 9, but each one seems huge.
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[14:30:43] <Pyrrhus666> this is horrible, imho : https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-qdyrho?file=app%2Fapp.component.html
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[14:30:59] <Pyrrhus666> select the inputs, see the array, be amazed.
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[14:37:02] <MickeySoFine> How do I send an event to a grandchild element from its grandparent in angular 4?
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[14:57:55] <Elarcis> MickeySoFine: you don’t you rework your design
[14:58:03] <Elarcis> *you don’t, you rework your design.
[14:58:28] <MickeySoFine> for example?
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[14:59:11] <Elarcis> MickeySoFine: I don’t know, it depends on what the "event" is, what the "grandparent" is and what the "grandchild" is
[14:59:23] <MickeySoFine> ok
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[15:01:38] <Elarcis> MickeySoFine: I thought you’d give out more details, but ok
[15:02:08] <MickeySoFine> I was going to but I think i've found a solution
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[15:04:22] <Elarcis> MickeySoFine: I have no doubt you did
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[15:57:24] <Magnumes> Guys I have 2 scrolls on my page. General and inside. I want to seperate them because now when I scrolling to end of inside my general scroll scrolling too. Any ideas?
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[15:59:23] <Elarcis> Magnumes: I believe this is handled by the browser.
[15:59:33] <Elarcis> Magnumes: not sure you have a choice.
[15:59:56] <Magnumes> xD
[15:59:59] <Magnumes> bad bad bad
[16:00:04] <Magnumes> This is my task
[16:00:58] <Magnumes> Can I set that my inside scroll is moving only when my cursor be in this part and the same with general?
[16:01:08] <Elarcis> why bad? do research, tell your boss this is impossible, with documented proof.
[16:01:13] <Elarcis> propose an alternative
[16:01:33] <Elarcis> you’re not a pawn, you’re a developer, with a valuable insight.
[16:01:53] <Magnumes> hmm ok :D
[16:02:18] <Magnumes> So I can't block scroll bar when coursor is on other area?
[16:03:01] <Elarcis> Magnumes: I don’t think so, but you can prove me wrong with some research
[16:03:21] <Pyrrhus666> theoretically you can catch the scroll events and do as you please, but it feels like bad design
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[16:04:06] <Pyrrhus666> Magnumes, re: inside/general, are you talking about something like the scrollbars here : https://angular.io/guide/http
[16:04:25] <Magnumes> Pyrrhus666: YES
[16:04:28] <Pyrrhus666> (see the two scrollbars on the right, one for the navigation, one for the page)
[16:05:12] <Magnumes> Pyrrhus666: maybe this is idea because left scrollbar moving general, but right scrollbar dont
[16:05:43] <Pyrrhus666> this is different, the navigation has a scroll-spy that reacts to the global scroll...
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[16:06:14] <Magnumes> Pyrrhus666: So I can change normal scrollbar like this on right side?
[16:06:15] <Pyrrhus666> I have a bit of a hard time picturing the behavior you´re talking about though
[16:06:35] <Pyrrhus666> I have no idea what the question means...
[16:07:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666, Magnumes: FYI, this works terribly on Firefox, i.e. at the end of the scroll it still scrolls globally.
[16:07:24] <Magnumes> Pyrrhus666: in the right bar when you scroll to down that general dont move
[16:07:35] <Magnumes> I want to
[16:07:52] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, I know, I hate that implementation (which is why I remembered it)
[16:08:18] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: they want the browser to not search for the next scrollbar to scroll when the hovered element can’t be scrolled.
[16:08:24] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: oh wait maybe this is it then
[16:08:53] <Elarcis> Magnumes: have you tried blocking the bubbling up of the 'scroll' event on the sub-element?
[16:09:39] <Magnumes> Elarcis: no
[16:10:16] <Pyrrhus666> Magnumes, can´t you just make the box have static (or fixed) positioning ?
[16:10:51] <Pyrrhus666> a demo showing your problem would do wonders I think ;)
[16:11:11] <Magnumes> Pyrrhus666: which demo?
[16:11:23] <Pyrrhus666> the one you should make to show us :P
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[16:13:31] <Magnumes> Pyrrhus666: ok but tommorow, I must go out now
[16:13:42] <Magnumes> I'll talk to you tomorrow
[16:13:49] <Pyrrhus666> no problem, we´ll be here ;)
[16:14:03] <Magnumes> thank you!
[16:14:04] <Magnumes> and cya
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[16:32:49] <grasschopper> Where can I see a full list of unit suffixes supported by Angular in templating? Like [left.px], [left.em]? Specifically I'm interested in finding what should I use for 'percentage', but it would be great to find out where that's documented
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[16:37:11] <Pyrrhus666> grasschopper, that´s just the css properties, no ?
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[16:47:14] <grasschopper> *shrug*
[16:47:26] <grasschopper> Found the answer I was looking for: https://www.bennadel.com/blog/3292-using-percent-for-in-line-styles-in-angular-4-2-3.htm
[16:47:32] <grasschopper> I'm not that well versed in CSS
[16:48:38] <grasschopper> left.%
[16:49:00] <Pyrrhus666> afaik the angular bindings are straight dom css bindings. so insofar as ¨what´s supported¨, the answer is ¨all css props¨.
[16:49:20] <Pyrrhus666> and hence they are not documented with angular.
[16:50:42] <icebox> grasschopper: generally speaking, what is your use case? because that would seem an hack
[16:51:01] <grasschopper> https://angular.io/api/common/NgStyle <- I with the `keys are optional style name swith an optional .<unit> suffic` sentence would have linked me to the proper document though. I have no idea where to start looking to find a list of all names.
[16:51:18] <grasschopper> % does exactly what I'm looking for.
[16:51:19] <icebox> grasschopper: ok... but what is your use case?
[16:51:31] <grasschopper> A progress bar in a video player
[16:51:36] <icebox> grasschopper: ok
[16:52:06] <grasschopper> I'm updating some timer variable and shifting a DIV to indicate right spot in the progress bar
[16:53:15] <grasschopper> So it's actually [left.%]="percentage" & percentage is a public number
[16:53:21] <icebox> grasschopper: if it works :)
[16:53:23] <Pyrrhus666> grasschopper, the complete list is here : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference
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[16:53:47] <grasschopper> s/left.%/style.left.%
[16:54:03] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, I gathered that :)
[16:54:13] <Pyrrhus666> off in a bit... later folks
[16:54:20] <icebox> ok... off in a few minutes... bye Pyrrhus666
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[17:54:17] <Elarcis> damn, my elbow made a hell-spawned sound when stretching
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[17:56:18] <ray02> to much coding?
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[18:06:37] <SargoDarya> Elarcis: Stop stretching then duh!
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[18:16:58] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: I can’t, I’m an octopus. Have you seen an octopus? We need stretching!
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[18:51:49] <HeartMeeple> Is there any cookie management baked into angular 2+?
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[19:18:27] <haweh> Greetings all I am wondering how to sort a obserable like this: this.m.getEmployees().subscribe(employees => this.employees = employees);
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[19:23:44] <haweh> Does anyone have any ideas?
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[20:41:55] <kneeki> Is it possible to get the current URL using angular v1?
[20:42:23] <kneeki> I'm using Browser Stack iPad emulator and window is empty? typeof window returns "object" but I can't see any of the values
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[20:46:40] <haweh> I have been trying all day to figure out how to sort this line of code. There is also no docs on properly doing it. Can someone show me how: this.m.getEmployees().subscribe(employees => this.employees = employees);
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[21:05:35] <niyer> Hello, I am trying to run tests with jasmine and karma but I am stuck with this issue: https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/18033
[21:05:40] <niyer> Can someone please help?
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[21:13:21] <niyer> Error: Expected to be running in 'ProxyZone', but it was not found.
[21:13:33] <niyer> TypeError: Cannot read property 'assertPresent' of undefined
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[21:21:43] <niyer> I can't find solution anywhere. Can someone please help with the issue?? ^^
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[22:27:34] <niyer> If anyone is interested, The solution for above problem was to put zone.js imports after angular imports
[22:28:16] <niyer> ^^ sorry the other way around. Zone.js imports followed by angular imports
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[23:38:51] <ChaosBringer> Is it possible to iterate over a Map's keys AND values in angular HTML?
[23:38:56] <ChaosBringer> angular 4*
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[23:45:38] <riotz> why shouldnt it be possible to do so?
[23:48:56] <ChaosBringer> My object looks like this: Map<string, MyModelHere[]>
[23:49:09] <ChaosBringer> When i try to iterate over that in html, i get an error, wants an array
[23:49:27] <riotz> https://developer.mozilla.org/de/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Map/forEach
[23:49:32] <ChaosBringer> I'll keep playing with it
[23:49:41] <ChaosBringer> in the HTML
[23:49:59] <ChaosBringer> I know how foreach works
[23:50:09] <riotz> well you start with this https://developer.mozilla.org/de/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Map/keys
[23:50:18] <riotz> after you have the keys you grab the values
[23:50:24] <riotz> for each key in array
[23:52:33] <riotz> eh in iterator..
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