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[01:28:59] <NicoJuicy> thanks BlinkyBill
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[01:44:08] <Guest31637> is there a copy to clipboard plugin
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[01:48:33] <xochilpili> do you recommend vivaldi browser?
[01:48:58] <BlinkyBill> Guest31637, no need for a plugin. See https://www.w3schools.com/howto/howto_js_copy_clipboard.asp
[01:49:29] <Guest31637> how new is this
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[01:50:33] <BlinkyBill> ?? You do realise that a plugin will just be doing this in the background anyway?
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[01:52:53] <Guest31637> how recent is
[01:52:54] <Guest31637> document.execCommand("Copy");
[01:53:31] <Guest31637> i used to to with some clipboard plugin
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[01:55:51] <BlinkyBill> Guest31637, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Document/execCommand
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[01:57:39] <Guest31637> 2015
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[06:49:32] <dlam> can ng-messages work with a top-level myForm.$error ? the docs give examples involving only myForm.some_field.$error
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[07:35:35] <max_at> good morning
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[08:12:10] <icebox> hey folks
[08:13:22] <SargoDarya> Morning icebox
[08:13:59] <icebox> SargoDarya: hey
[08:14:05] <Mattias> A new day full of errors~
[08:14:25] <icebox> Mattias: nice
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[08:14:33] <Mattias> Luckily I don't have any :)
[08:15:04] <Mattias> It went rather easy to merge three angular projects into one, treating them all as modules
[08:15:22] <Mattias> projects for the same large project*
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[08:16:27] <icebox> cool
[08:17:06] <SargoDarya> Mattias: Sounds great, easier at least than merging together angularjs and angular
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[08:29:14] <Elarcis> Yoo
[08:34:06] <SargoDarya> Yoooo Elarcis, how's it going?
[08:34:14] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
[08:34:31] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: pretty fine, tgif :P
[08:34:56] <SargoDarya> totally.
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[09:16:48] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
[09:16:52] <icebox> Elarcis: what about Iliad? it seems it lands on Italy in the summer
[09:16:55] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hey
[09:16:58] <SargoDarya> Morning Pyrrhus666
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[09:19:13] <Elarcis> icebox: what?
[09:19:38] <Elarcis> icebox: ah. It’s super low cost, terrible customer service, but hey, it’s low cost
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[09:20:43] <Elarcis> icebox: they usually trigger ISP innovations in France and "force" competitors to follow their prices
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[09:21:07] <Elarcis> icebox: they’re not the best service, they just push everyone to do better
[09:21:11] <Elarcis> somehow
[09:21:22] <icebox> interesting
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[09:58:36] <icebox> OT: https://hackernoon.com/i-looked-through-all-14-227-photos-from-the-apollo-missions-heres-what-i-found-5c119f7f5a72
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[10:00:45] <zomg> >It’s so eco-friendly and a great example of form following function.
[10:00:55] <zomg> >collapsible bottles from the 50s
[10:00:57] <ray02> hello hello
[10:00:59] <zomg> >eco-friendly
[10:01:01] <zomg> uhmm
[10:01:03] <ray02> goodmorning
[10:01:06] <zomg> hey
[10:01:19] <icebox> zomg, ray02: hey
[10:01:43] <Pyrrhus666> morning zomg ray02
[10:02:28] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, but now I want to know what the goopy meter indicates...
[10:02:41] <icebox> :P yeah
[10:03:00] <Elarcis> icebox: so mind blowing
[10:03:45] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, yeah, the fact that they had the ability to fake all that is really impressive :P
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[10:04:23] <zomg> aliens.
[10:05:12] <Pyrrhus666> must be
[10:06:38] <ray02> hasemblad rulez
[10:07:04] <ray02> the quality of thier product are incredible
[10:07:30] <Pyrrhus666> hasselblad, I presume ?
[10:08:28] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: darn you
[10:08:42] <icebox> OT: interesting debate how to break "standards" - https://twitter.com/davemethvin/status/974037352384430080
[10:08:45] <ray02> yes sorry, i was so excited that i misspelled
[10:08:55] <ray02> :)
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[10:12:43] <Pyrrhus666> the actual camera, it seems : https://airandspace.si.edu/sites/default/files/images/5239h.jpg
[10:12:47] <Pyrrhus666> (large image)
[10:14:18] <ray02> very nice
[10:15:27] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, that could be an xkcd comic ;)
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[10:17:50] <icebox> yeah... the usal one about 15 standards :)
[10:17:53] <icebox> *usual
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[10:18:19] <MickeySoFine> Morning !
[10:18:33] <Pyrrhus666> morning MickeySoFine
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[10:19:16] <MickeySoFine> Is there an option in angular 4 to turn off https to http checking when calling and API?
[10:20:02] <MickeySoFine> I''ve got my app on firebase but I have a nodejs api I build serving on rackspace as http only
[10:20:30] <MickeySoFine> I'm just wanting to make it viewable for my client to mess with
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[10:21:40] <Pyrrhus666> in my experience angular does no checks ? isn´t it a server-side thing ?
[10:22:06] <icebox> MickeySoFine: hey
[10:22:13] <MickeySoFine> Hey icebox
[10:22:23] <MickeySoFine> well I'm getting this: polyfills.fcd51d693de42dfab15b.bundle.js:1 Mixed Content: The page at 'https://patient-kode.firebaseapp.com/login/stage1' was loaded over HTTPS, but requested an insecure XMLHttpRequest endpoint 'http://162.13.178.248:3000/api/authenticate'. This request has been blocked; the content must be served over HTTPS.
[10:22:46] <MickeySoFine> so looks like pollyfills is stopping it
[10:23:19] <Pyrrhus666> ah, ok. when I switch protocols for dev, it´s for all requests, so I never get a mixed-mode...
[10:24:35] <icebox> MickeySoFine: it is not the polyfills, it is the browser
[10:24:54] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, ah yes, of course...
[10:25:07] <MickeySoFine> ok, so I need to host the app on http as we then :(
[10:25:23] <icebox> MickeySoFine: using a local certificare auto-signed is quite easy
[10:25:27] <icebox> *certificate
[10:25:34] <Pyrrhus666> in firefox : security.mixed_content.block_active_content -> set false
[10:25:57] <MickeySoFine> I though I was being l33t using firebase :D
[10:26:34] <MickeySoFine> I'll just set up nginx on the same box as I'm serving my node stuff from I think and cut out the middleman
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[10:26:53] <icebox> MickeySoFine: just in case... https://gist.github.com/albertosantini/1f45fbd472ee0e1984c3204cef962ee1
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[10:28:00] <MickeySoFine> ty icebox
[10:28:04] <nikio_> heya how i can i make sure that a browser opens upon npm start
[10:29:10] <nikio_> https://stackoverflow.com/a/42943826
[10:29:10] <icebox> MickeySoFine: (and if you are on windows, no problem... git bash includes openssh :)
[10:30:30] <icebox> nikio_: what is your so?
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[10:31:05] <nikio_> its the solution
[10:31:20] <nikio_> i usually answer my own questions
[10:31:23] <nikio_> is that not allowed?
[10:31:26] <icebox> nikio_: sorry... what is your operating system?
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[10:31:26] <nikio_> ; ]
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[10:31:34] <nikio_> windows 10 why?
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[10:32:02] <icebox> nikio_: because the answer is... use the same solution you use to open the browser from the command line :)
[10:32:17] <nikio_> icebox, but
[10:32:23] <nikio_> i used to just install angular
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[10:32:27] <nikio_> make a project
[10:32:30] <nikio_> npm start
[10:32:34] <nikio_> and it worked
[10:32:43] <nikio_> why do i have to do some strange workaround now
[10:32:49] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: (new rendering engine in FF is quite magic) :)
[10:32:50] <nikio_> i never had to implement this myself
[10:33:10] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I´m happy with it :)
[10:33:55] <icebox> nikio_: "it worked"? what did it work? opening automatically the browser?
[10:33:55] <nikio_> icebox, "start": "ng serve --open",
[10:34:03] <nikio_> thats it
[10:34:13] <nikio_> i think angular used to auto add that config
[10:34:17] <nikio_> when u make a new project
[10:34:26] <icebox> nikio_: ok... and?
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[10:34:38] <nikio_> thats the solution^
[10:34:50] <nikio_> for some reason that was not in the config
[10:34:51] <icebox> nikio_: are you saying since some version it doesn't work?
[10:34:57] <nikio_> dunno
[10:35:08] <nikio_> maybe someone took it away
[10:35:14] <nikio_> or angular stopped using that as a default
[10:35:40] <icebox> nikio_: ? details please... otherwise we cannot help you... and browsing the source ode should give you the definitive answer
[10:35:49] <icebox> écode
[10:35:49] <Elarcis> nikio_: can’t you just readd the --open in the package.json?
[10:36:10] <nikio_> now i can
[10:36:14] <nikio_> I added it xD
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[10:36:21] <icebox> ?
[10:36:52] <nikio_> what isnt clear?
[10:36:55] <icebox> no
[10:37:04] <nikio_> i mean
[10:37:11] <Elarcis> nikio_: everything I think
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[10:37:12] <nikio_> i anwsered my own question
[10:37:14] <Elarcis> nikio_: :P
[10:37:17] <icebox> cool
[10:37:18] <nikio_> at the very beginning
[10:37:29] <nikio_> now im busy explaining the solution lol
[10:37:38] <nikio_> this is ironic
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[10:39:22] <Elarcis> nikio_: you asked a question here that was already answered on the link you gave us, so I’m not sure what your point is
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[10:40:23] <icebox> and ironic in irc doesn't work
[10:40:25] <nikio_> yes the link was the answer
[10:40:45] <Elarcis> nikio_: from our point of view, you asked a question then posted a link to better document your question, it would have been easier for everyone to add "nvm, found the answer" or something
[10:40:53] <nikio_> so i posted the answer to my own question, can i not function as both the questioner and the answerer?
[10:41:12] <Elarcis> nikio_: we’re not in your mind, we didn’t figure you’d just ask a question then post the solution to it immediately after
[10:41:34] <nikio_> because i asked it, and in the meanwhile kept looking for the solution
[10:41:37] <nikio_> which is what i always do
[10:41:39] <Elarcis> nikio_: you’re free to monologue, don’t blame us for being confused :P
[10:41:49] <nikio_> initial googling didnt help so i came here
[10:41:50] <icebox> no problem... it was "only" a wasted time
[10:42:00] <Elarcis> nikio_: well it is not conventional, so yes, we were confused
[10:42:08] <nikio_> ahh ok.
[10:42:29] <icebox> anyway... really no problem :)
[10:42:51] <nikio_> well i think questions should not go unanswered so i posted the link
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[10:43:01] <nikio_> should i change nick next time just for the answer?
[10:43:03] <nikio_> x )
[10:43:42] <Elarcis> nikio_: no, just add a bit of context, please
[10:44:02] <Elarcis> like "oh, I found out", or "just in case here’s the answer", or whatever
[10:44:21] <nikio_> kk, i do that about 50 % of the time
[10:44:32] <Elarcis> nikio_: better to do it 100% of the time
[10:44:50] <nikio_> ill try and increase my ratio from now on
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[11:09:07] <ray02> i have found this operator in a snipped of code
[11:09:08] <ray02> ~
[11:09:48] <ray02> can some one direct to me to undestardand what this do?
[11:10:26] <ray02> because the TSlint suggest me to remove/change it
[11:10:37] <Pyrrhus666> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Operators/Bitwise_Operators
[11:10:50] <Pyrrhus666> it´s a bitwise not.
[11:11:55] <Pyrrhus666> tslint only suggest not using them becuase they´re hard and confusing, which I find hard to believe, but hey.
[11:12:00] <Elarcis> ray02: it’s a binary operator that flips all bits of the given number
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[11:12:19] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, that´s what I said :P
[11:12:41] <Elarcis> ray02: in a nutshell, it does (n) => -n-1
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[11:12:53] <ray02> ah ok
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[11:13:09] <ray02> thanks for the short version Elarcis :p
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[11:13:37] <Elarcis> ray02: if you see it in a if (~index), it’s meant to check that the index is not -1.
[11:14:03] <Elarcis> ray02: if index === -1, ~index === 0, so the if fails.
[11:14:25] <ray02> https://github.com/webdatavisualdev/angular4-d3-word-cloud/blob/master/src/app/word-cloud/word-cloud.component.ts
[11:14:29] <ray02> line 76
[11:15:31] <ray02> but so it's ok to use it
[11:15:41] <Elarcis> ray02: seems to be a short way to just keep the integer part
[11:15:52] <ray02> the police will not came to my home to night
[11:15:58] <Pyrrhus666> I think it is. I generally disable that rule.
[11:16:00] <ray02> and arrest me for this
[11:16:06] <ray02> ok
[11:16:33] <Elarcis> ray02: prefer Math.trunc()
[11:16:40] <Elarcis> ray02: way more explicit and less confusing
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[11:17:31] <Elarcis> ray02: no IE support though
[11:17:43] <Elarcis> ray02: but hey, you’re doing Angular, so you should be pretty fine :P
[11:17:49] <ray02> ahah ok
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[11:18:37] <ray02> but just in case i will use the Math.trunc() i don't want problem this night /P
[11:18:39] <ray02> :p
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[11:19:01] <Elarcis> ray02: whatever floats your boat, I’m pretty sure it does ~~ behind anyway :P
[11:20:04] <icebox> a poet :)
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[11:20:23] <ray02> baam
[11:20:23] <Elarcis> heh?
[11:20:37] <ray02> poettry and code
[11:20:51] <ray02> what better thing on this nice friday
[11:21:25] <ray02> anothe question about that code
[11:21:37] <ray02> in line 42
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[11:22:05] <ray02> the code is : "let cls = this;"
[11:22:28] <ray02> why shuold be more pratical have cls instead of use this ?
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[11:23:33] <vaishali> hi
[11:23:48] <Pyrrhus666> ray02, funny, since it isn´t even used...
[11:23:56] <icebox> ray02: do you know var that = this; ?
[11:24:05] <icebox> vaishali: hey
[11:24:13] <Pyrrhus666> in the olden days, such assignments where used to pass scope
[11:24:38] <Pyrrhus666> ah, overlooked. it is used.
[11:25:50] <icebox> not in getRandom and for the other method using fat arrow would be better
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[11:26:16] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yeah, in the getRandoom it´s dead.
[11:26:36] <Pyrrhus666> and yes, fat arrow...
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[11:26:39] <Elarcis> ray02: replace function(d) { by d = {
[11:26:47] <Elarcis> ray02: no need for cls = this anymore.
[11:26:57] <icebox> anyway if devs would use a linter, you should not see that kind of code
[11:28:50] <ray02> icebox the Tslinter in this case don't say nothing
[11:28:56] <Pyrrhus666> which is funny, because ray02 uses a linter, since it borked on the ~
[11:29:06] <ray02> just suggest to use const
[11:29:15] <ray02> instead of let
[11:29:16] <icebox> ray02: eslint is the only one
[11:29:48] <icebox> ray02: confgured like https://github.com/eslint/eslint/blob/master/packages/eslint-config-eslint/default.yml
[11:30:07] <Pyrrhus666> tslint has a rule though : https://palantir.github.io/tslint/rules/no-this-assignment/
[11:30:22] <Pyrrhus666> guess it´s not enabled by default
[11:30:29] <ray02> ah ok
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[11:33:10] <anli> Is it only me or is the jsfiddle draft/version/apply/update thing a bit complicated?
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[11:33:23] <ray02> thanks guys
[11:33:42] <icebox> anli: no idea... I don't use it
[11:34:21] <icebox> stackblitz is the new kid on the block... from vanilla js to angular :)
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[11:50:15] <mousecursor> I have two components A and B being rendered by a component C's template, how can I define a number property in A, named 'foo' in such a way that it can be passed to the component B as an argument?
[11:50:52] <icebox> mousecursor: use services
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[12:07:20] <mousecursor> @icebox: Is there some other shorthand along the lines of `<app-a #a></app-a><app-b [foo]="a.foo"></app-b>`
[12:08:03] <mousecursor> The current intent is that we might be using <app-b> in several places
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[12:35:18] <mousecursor> Like, for example `<app-a #mike></app-a><app-a #tim></app-a><app.b [foo]="mike.foo"></<app-b><app-b [foo]="tim.foo"></app-b>`
[12:36:49] <Elarcis> mousecursor: have app-a trigger an @output when its property changes, catch that in the parent component and pass it back to app-b
[12:37:11] <Elarcis> mousecursor: if the value is always shared through the app, do it via a shared service
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[12:38:21] <Elarcis> *shared the same way
[12:39:28] <Elarcis> mousecursor: mind that if you use a service, app-b gets logically tied to the service as well as app-a, which means that if you ever need to set app-b.foo from another source, you’ll have to change quite some code
[12:40:50] <SargoDarya> Got an invite from the landlord folks on Sunday, wish me luck :D
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[12:41:41] <mousecursor> Elarcis, this is probably the advice I was looking for. I was unaware of needing to set up the bridge between A and B via the parent and was wondering why I was never getting the result I was hoping for.
[12:42:14] <mousecursor> I assumed that putting that info in the html template itself would have been enough
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[12:43:55] <Elarcis> mousecursor: in parallel, you have another solution, that is to expose your component’s public API to its parent via exportAs. If you set an exportAs value in your decorator, you can get a reference to your component in your template via #appA="whateverYouPutInExportAs"
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[12:53:07] <Elarcis> mousecursor: it needs to be a public property though, also it’s a bit more cumbersome than to just use @output
[12:53:17] <icebox> back
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[13:04:03] <Pyrrhus666> OT : https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/10/20/last-tree-cut/
[13:04:18] <Pyrrhus666> never knew that quote was about canada originally
[13:14:38] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: it happened also in California when it was a Territory... but Canada was the first area (of North America) colonized
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[13:15:20] <Pyrrhus666> the quote is from 1973... how is that related to the colonization ?
[13:15:52] <Pyrrhus666> *1972, sorry.
[13:16:18] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: late 1800
[13:16:42] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I don't think that citation is correct :)
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[13:17:51] <Pyrrhus666> that´s not the exact quote though. it´s just related... qi tends to grant the origin to alanis in 1972 (I looked up QI after others claimed that as well)
[13:19:06] <icebox> an no... it is correct... the sentence is dated 1972... but the related facts are dated late 800
[13:19:12] <icebox> *ah no
[13:19:18] <Pyrrhus666> *1800
[13:19:20] <Pyrrhus666> :P
[13:19:21] <icebox> yep
[13:20:15] <Pyrrhus666> anyway, still a good quote, whatever the origin :)
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[13:23:20] <icebox> yep
[13:23:42] <icebox> OT: https://blog.github.com/2018-03-14-eu-proposal-upload-filters-code/
[13:24:09] <Pyrrhus666> read that. filters are stupid in general...
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[13:27:01] <sonda> i have a chart application, where there are 2 group of charts... for one group the data comes withing 4-5 seconds... where as for other group it takes some time 15-20 secods... How can i return the response for first group immediately when calculated and later send the response for other group... the backend is nodeJS
[13:27:03] <jlebrech> i had to interpret undefined as false in one case and true in another. 3 mins later, fuck it. init everything as either true or false and flip it round for the special case. duh
[13:27:40] <icebox> sonda: async flow... promises
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[13:28:02] <sonda> I am using promises...
[13:28:03] <icebox> jlebrech: :P
[13:28:09] <icebox> sonda: so... what is the problem?
[13:28:40] <icebox> sonda: when the promises are resolved, automagically the changes are propagated
[13:29:03] <sonda> But the request waits till data for 2 groups calculated and then resolves the main promise... till then ui blocked
[13:29:13] <icebox> sonda: ui blocked?
[13:29:41] <sonda> yeah till the response comes
[13:30:10] <icebox> sonda: I don't understand
[13:30:24] <jlebrech> icebox: undie find is what I do in the mornings, not something that should be in code :)
[13:30:35] <icebox> jlebrech: ah ok :)
[13:31:23] <jlebrech> icebox: undefined evaluating as false really messes things up
[13:31:28] <sonda> for some action on ui, it sends a POST request to backend server that calculates data for 2 group of widgets... till then ui is not updated I meant
[13:32:04] <sonda> I want the server to send response in two chunks
[13:32:15] <sonda> at least the first group is updated fast
[13:32:28] <sonda> and i can show spinning wheel for second group
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[13:34:02] <icebox> sonda: what is your concern related to angular?
[13:35:15] <sonda> its related to both angular and nodeJS
[13:36:04] <icebox> sonda: until now you described a design question related to the api logic (backend)
[13:36:05] <sonda> long running requests , how to handle in angular
[13:36:10] <icebox> sonda: promises
[13:37:14] <sonda> I thought something like websockets will be useful here
[13:37:32] <sonda> how can websockets used in angular
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[13:39:23] <Elarcis> sonda: like in JS.
[13:39:47] <sonda> i have no experience with them
[13:39:51] <sonda> any links?
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[13:40:58] <icebox> sonda: mdn websockets
[13:41:00] <Elarcis> sonda: https://www.google.fr/search?q=mdn+websockets
[13:41:28] <sonda> but is it too much for my case?
[13:41:33] <icebox> sonda: yes, it is
[13:41:51] <icebox> sonda: why do you need ws?
[13:42:33] <icebox> sonda: because you don't know when the long running process is finished?
[13:42:33] <sonda> i thought like when the server is ready with the data for second set of widgets, it will communicate to client via websockets
[13:43:20] <sonda> by that time the request would have retrned and first set updated, and second set spinning till data arrives
[13:43:23] <icebox> sonda: long running for you what does it mean? seconds or minutes? :)
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[13:43:37] <sonda> it takes 20 seconds
[13:44:04] <icebox> sonda: I would start with promises and finally with ws
[13:44:21] <sonda> user clicks on something nd waits for 20 seconds to actually see some update
[13:44:27] <icebox> sonda: anyway using ws is two lines :)
[13:44:37] <icebox> sonda: it would be the same with ws
[13:45:11] <icebox> sonda: async flow doesn't block the ui
[13:45:40] <sonda> no.. ui is not blcoked... but to see the update, user has to wait for 20 seconds
[13:46:04] <sonda> how are such scenarios handled
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[13:46:34] <sonda> i can show spinning wheel for 20 seconds
[13:46:59] <sonda> but somehow it gives bad impression about application
[13:47:02] <Pyrrhus666> a progressbar would be better if it´s 20 seconds
[13:47:35] <Pyrrhus666> (and I mean real progress of course, not faked)
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[13:49:22] <sonda> yeah, I know when the request is sent and when the response received.. once the promise resolved, i can stop wheel
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[13:50:24] <Pyrrhus666> if I get a spinner for more than 5 seconds, I hit F5
[13:50:52] <Pyrrhus666> granted, I´m an impatient f*cker :)
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[13:51:51] <sonda> yeah something wrong with ui layout ... i think we should move those sets into different tabs.. and run two different queries when switched between tabs
[13:52:00] <icebox> sonda: your concern is about ux
[13:52:40] <icebox> sonda: when there are underlying requests I have been showing a spinner somewhere, but the ui is not blocked at all
[13:53:34] <sonda> I think our mistake is putting too many widgets in single page
[13:53:42] <icebox> sonda: the user can continue to use the app as usual and when data are processed, they can go to the view accordingly
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[13:55:00] <sonda> but the state should be remmbered.. when switched to view it should not initiate request again
[13:55:07] <icebox> sonda: nah
[13:55:20] <icebox> :P
[13:55:47] <icebox> in the meantime your app is not died, isnt it? :) your models are there
[13:56:30] <icebox> now the array is empty and after twenty seconds that array is filled
[13:56:41] <icebox> no problems at all :)
[13:57:05] <icebox> the view will be empty with "No results."... and then it will display the results
[13:57:47] <icebox> so... why do you use angular? or generally speaking a mv* framework?
[13:57:53] <sonda> Yeah.. but our code architecture is not like that.. the controller initialises everything from beginning
[13:58:00] <icebox> sonda: ok
[13:58:03] <icebox> sonda: and?
[13:58:57] <icebox> sonda: I think you are breaking the references of your objects :) not intentionally, I suppose
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[14:00:18] <icebox> your array is empty, initialized in the controller (or better in the service), the reference of that array lives in the app, shared everywhere... and when it is filled, twenty seconds later, the app works magically :)
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[14:00:48] <icebox> that is main use case of a mv* framework... the observer pattern
[14:00:48] <sonda> yeah .. if no parameters have changed when switched to that view , we shouldn't start from beginning
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[14:01:30] <icebox> sonda: of course, if the user change the params, new query... your concern are now about canceling your old request... it is another affair
[14:01:34] <icebox> *changes
[14:01:53] <icebox> sonda: (how did you design the app?) :P
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[14:03:50] <sonda> our app is like, whenever user clicks on that tab, its as if he is coming for the first time
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[14:03:51] <icebox> sonda: I am afraid you need to review your ux and design a solution for your long processes interactions :)
[14:04:15] <icebox> sonda: that may be a problem... it depends on the requirements
[14:04:30] <icebox> sonda: and how is your ux :)
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[14:06:06] <icebox> sonda: (you may use a flag indicating a long process in progress... so when the tab is a switched you don't run a new query) anyway there are a lot of solutions and approaches... it depends on requirements, ux flow and so on
[14:06:08] <sonda> I am not that expert.. can you give some references to ux?
[14:06:13] <max_at> for me this sounds like always a page refresh instead of keeping state and just using internal routing
[14:06:40] <icebox> max_at: there are many different use cases... and the evil is in the details
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[14:07:14] <max_at> icebox: indeed, and excellent ux is hard to achieve, but also simple changes can help users to understand what is going on
[14:07:17] <sonda> max_at: yes only routing... no states
[14:07:21] <icebox> sonda: I don't think so... there are so many use cases, there is not a general pattern
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[14:08:04] <max_at> eg. not showing "no results" in the beginning, if you have not yet recieved anything from a service. but instead showing a "loading" and once the backend response is there, showing that there is really nothing to see. or so
[14:08:07] <icebox> max_at: what I mean... it is impossible to recommend a definitive solution to sonda without reading specs, requirements, architecture...
[14:08:42] <max_at> icebox: totally agree, and ux is (in our case) one or more people employeed only for ux for a given project
[14:09:18] <icebox> max_at: we have like 15 ux designers :)
[14:09:28] <sonda> It would be helpful if you give me some links to ux... I haven't read about it
[14:09:49] <max_at> icebox: I don't know how many thousands we have, but there must be some :D
[14:10:22] <max_at> sonda: google for UX principles , interaction design principles .. there you will find lots of stuff
[14:10:50] <sonda> OK. Thank you for all your help.. I need to run now :)
[14:11:00] <max_at> good luck and happy ux :-)
[14:11:27] <max_at> We currently have a UX improvement sprint btw, we're lacking here and there .. hehe
[14:11:37] <icebox> max_at: generally speaking, if ux designer have a programming background are welcome, otherwise it is a nightmare
[14:11:43] <icebox> *designers
[14:11:58] <icebox> sonda: you are welcome
[14:12:00] <max_at> icebox: yes, or at least a very good technical understanding
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[14:12:25] <icebox> max_at: yep... otherwise it is all navigation, clicks and color (and icons) :)
[14:12:56] <icebox> without knowing what they (and the app) are doing :)
[14:14:21] <icebox> lately it seems ux is the new marketing :)
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[14:58:48] <mllie> Hi guys
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[15:01:34] <mllie> How do I get this working; both a string of classes as well as booleans to add classes? https://pastebin.com/C1sXxL96
[15:04:21] <Booster2ooo> Hello, I tried to apply the fundamental "Parent interacts with child via local variable" (https://angular.io/guide/component-interaction#parent-interacts-with-child-via-local-variable) on this sample: https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-axdj1n but using child.list in the parent template throws an error cannot read list of undefined
[15:04:44] <Booster2ooo> I guess I'm missing something, could help me figure out what it is?
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[15:06:30] <Booster2ooo> but I can access it in {{child.list.length}}
[15:06:52] <Booster2ooo> I guess I cannot use it in a *ngIf ? I'll need a ViewChild ?
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[15:08:19] <Pyrrhus666> Booster2ooo, I think so. as it is now, you have not defined a relation between parent and child
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[15:12:03] <Booster2ooo> Pyrrhus666 it can be used in a *ngIf, but cannot be contained in the *ngIf itself. <div *ngIf="child.list.length">{{child.list.length}} items</div><app-child #child></app-child> works but <div *ngIf="child.list.length"><app-child #child></app-child></div> will throw an error
[15:12:38] <anli> If I use {{::tr.remove}} on the page, it will blink in front of my eyes when loading, right?
[15:12:52] <anli> Should I use <span ng-cloak></span> around?
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[15:37:46] <Tazmain> Hi all, if I am doing profiling, how do I see if one way of doing something is faster than the other? How do I find that angularjs function in the profile ?
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[16:15:15] <ASUchander> So with the old angular I used to use $log to setup configurable logging. What's the equivalent with Angular 5?
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[16:15:24] * ASUchander is currently using console.log
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[16:23:33] <Pyrrhus666> ASUchander, I don´t think there is an equivalent.
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[16:24:04] <ASUchander> thx Pyrrhus666, I was kind of afraid of that. I liked the configurable logging between development and production
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[16:25:20] <Pyrrhus666> you can use an external logger (like https://github.com/noemi-salaun/ng-logger)
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[16:25:35] <Pyrrhus666> there´s more around, but I don´t use them.
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[16:32:21] <icebox> off ina few minutes... have a nice weekend
[16:33:07] <Pyrrhus666> have a good one icebox
[16:33:18] <icebox> :P
[16:33:23] <icebox> you too
[16:33:44] <Pyrrhus666> I´ll do my best ;)
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[16:34:13] <xochilpili> hello everyone!
[16:34:14] <xochilpili> :D
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[16:47:19] <Pyrrhus666> I´m gonna leave you all with this question that´s been bugging me all day : https://imgur.com/gallery/EYfp9
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[17:07:01] <jancoow> what was the name of that other angular support chat again
[17:07:04] <jancoow> I forget it every time..
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[17:18:21] <max_at_> there is one?
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[17:27:02] <ray02> i'm alive
[17:27:16] <ray02> but i don't know if i can help
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[17:45:47] <ansu> jancoow: the only other support chat that I know of is https://gitter.im/angular/angular
[17:46:04] <jancoow> ah yeah, that's the one.
[17:46:09] <jancoow> That's the official one, right?
[17:46:13] <ansu> inb4 i get banned for promoting another chat... :D
[17:46:16] <jancoow> Or is this one still active?
[17:46:44] <max_at_> This one is active, but it is quite late on friday, so most ppl that do hang around here are not there currently
[17:46:56] <jancoow> ah okay! :)
[17:47:03] <jancoow> Well; I will try to ask my question
[17:47:13] <jancoow> I'm getting warnings that a circular dependency is detected
[17:47:39] <jancoow> And I know that this is true; but I can't get rid of the message
[17:47:51] <jancoow> Because in the case i'm using it there couldn't go something terrible wrong
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[17:48:51] <max_at_> Actually we also have those warnings in our current setup, we have like 15 circular deps (which is odd, I know), but we have no side effects or issues. On a second project a friend of mine had only 2 circular dependencies and - serious issues.
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[17:50:36] <max_at_> The issue lies somewhere deep and haven't looked to much into it already. But you can break the circle if you use at your component or service not directly eg. private SomeService .. but private injector: Injector and in ngOnInit you initialize your varialbe with injector.get(SomeService) and use it like before. With this approach you break the circular dep chain.
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[17:51:46] <jancoow> Yeah well if you are using it carefully there will be no side effects :p
[17:51:58] <jancoow> I'm just getting annoyed of the warnings
[17:52:43] <max_at> jancoow: yea, can be fine. Look at the accepted answer, this is what I was talking about ;-) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46832072/how-to-solve-the-circular-dependency
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[17:55:35] <jancoow> mmh
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[19:08:15] <ASUchander> Is there a way with ng build to pass in arguments - like --base-url=... to get substituted in the code somewhere?
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[19:55:33] <powerninja> Hello anyone know how to resolve npm peerDependencies ?
[19:55:40] <powerninja> using npm 3.10.10
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[21:46:37] <dlam> whats the file naming convention for components? like list-item-picker-component.js?
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[21:48:34] <dlam> oo from here https://angular.io/guide/styleguide it's... list-item-picker.component.js it seems
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[22:40:22] <fabiobik> Hello guys! Does anyone use Firestore with AngularJS 1.6?
[22:42:24] <fabiobik> i can ony have the result available from firestore if i do $scope.$apply(function(){
[22:43:32] <fabiobik> $scope.$apply(function(){ $scope.produtos = resultado; $scope.categoria = categoria.data();
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