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[00:01:56] <BlinkyBill> morning all
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[02:07:27] <mjones> hi all, I'm using an NPM module that is trying to show some SVG's but they're not showing up in my angular app for some reason... Any ideas?
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[02:07:48] <mjones> They're defined in the NPM module's html.
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[02:36:52] <BlinkyBill> mjones, angular 1 or 2+?
[02:37:03] <mjones> 2+
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[02:38:02] <BlinkyBill> your import is working OK?
[02:38:20] <BlinkyBill> And have you imported the @types too?
[02:38:40] <BlinkyBill> what's the NPM lib?
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[02:44:59] <mjones> It's swagger-ui-dist
[02:45:17] <mjones> A workaround was to paste the svg defs into the component template.
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[02:54:05] <Guest77604> is block-ui retard?
[02:54:13] <Guest77604> who wrote it
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[02:59:04] <mjones> Another question. Is there any way I can isolate bootstrap css to a single component? It's causing issues with my other components...
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[03:08:13] <wafflejock> mjones angular 1 or 2+?
[03:08:21] <mjones> 2+
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[03:09:30] <wafflejock> hmm if you load it in the component itself then shouldn't be an issue, how are you loading up bootstrap now?
[03:11:20] <mjones> hmm would that work? I'm loading it in .angular-cli.json
[03:13:18] <wafflejock> yeah I mean the styles are isolated to a given component by default not sure about loading bootstrap in a component but would give that a shot
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[03:14:12] <mjones> hmm yeah that's a good idea.
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[03:14:44] <mjones> I tried @import "../../../../node_modules/bootstrap/dist/css/bootstrap.min.css". But it's not loading all the styles correctly. Still in times new roman font
[03:15:18] <wafflejock> mjones some alternatives here https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36292438/how-to-use-bootstrap-css-library-in-angular-2-project
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[03:17:33] <wafflejock> in particular there's a couple that mention just using a regular styles.css and importing bootstrap from there, think that should get it to isolate the CSS
[03:17:55] <mjones> wafflejock: It looks like those solutions all involve including the css globally though
[03:18:18] <mjones> Or am I mistaken?
[03:18:22] <CssNoOb> https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-bghngi?file=app/app.component.html | Hi guys! How to use show and hidden when it is hover . I want to cancel the dropdown when it is not hoverd
[03:19:41] <wafflejock> mjones think the one with 8 upvotes could work in a component not sure though
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[03:50:52] <SmokinGrunts> Aaaaaanyone feel like being a rockstar and testing something real quick?
[03:51:10] <SmokinGrunts> goto http://96.92.220.85 register (use crap creds, I don't require email confirmation ATM), login, and futz around once yer in. Shit won't appear 'till you login. See if anything looks weird/is broken. Profile page isn't done, so that'll just show you me. I have a sensor up, so you should get live datas. History sensor view is fuxed, but realtime and RTFull should work. https://i.imgur.com/YaXbiwE.jpg <----
[03:51:10] <SmokinGrunts> these guys are the sensor nodes :)
[03:51:24] <SmokinGrunts> or use test:testing123 if you can't be bothered
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[04:26:29] <CssNoOb> Hi
[04:26:42] <CssNoOb> How can I convert this to angular2/4? http://embed.plnkr.co/UPvQ31fOo6CXD0kPbIKs/
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[04:34:03] <CssNoOb> http://jsfiddle.net/2Smgv/12270/ like this
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[04:50:58] <BlinkyBill> CssNoOb, Other than copying the html and css, what are you trying to achieve? There's no javascript that I saw in the plnkr one
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[04:51:24] <BlinkyBill> bah! My bad, I got them mixed up
[04:55:58] <BlinkyBill> CssNoOb, on your hover element (mouseenter)="hover=true" and (mouseleave)="hover=false" events. Then on the popup, just assign an *ngIf="hover" to conditionally display it.
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[05:23:12] <dglkhgslks> How can I profile my angularjs app? It seems to take a while to update half the time.
[05:26:23] <dglkhgslks> ng-class seems to take an extra second to update
[05:30:58] <wafflejock> dglkhgslks use the performance/profiling tools in the browser
[05:31:52] <wafflejock> dglkhgslks there is also a $watchers extension and some other angular performance focused extensions that can help... in general look for places you are repeating things excessively (more than can show on a page or be used by a user)
[05:32:37] <dglkhgslks> ok
[05:32:39] <dglkhgslks> thank you
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[05:38:36] <dglkhgslks> wafflejock: is there a way to see from the chrome dev tools calls section? what's causing mousemove events to be listened to?
[05:38:46] <dglkhgslks> and mouseover and mouseout?
[05:39:48] <wafflejock> dglkhgslks not sure... in the sources panel there's an event listeners section on the right might be able to use that
[05:40:02] <dglkhgslks> thanks
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[06:09:22] <dglkhgslks> wafflejock: I put scope.$apply in a $Timeout to make it show the newly highlighted field. Is that an ok practice?
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[06:10:32] <wafflejock> dglkhgslks you shouldn't really need to call $apply directly except if you make your own event listener for user events like bind('click', function handler(){}) or something like that $timeout should call $apply for you under the hood
[06:11:54] <dglkhgslks> Ok, but it was slow to update after I changed the variable that ng-class depends on
[06:12:17] <wafflejock> dglkhgslks in general angular stuff will call $apply for cases where watchers need to be checked for things in the model that changed (when $http gets results back or when $timeout has finished firing it's handler function) but there are some cases where you need to use $timeout or $apply to force the watchers to refresh
[06:12:42] <dglkhgslks> ok
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[06:12:51] <dglkhgslks> it looks like scope.$digest would be better for me, too
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[06:15:06] <CssNoOb> BlinkyBill https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-z14j9l?file=app%2Fapp.component.html
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[06:15:17] <CssNoOb> How can I use this as an @Input
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[07:58:45] <icebox> hey folks
[07:58:47] <icebox> OT: https://moleculer.services/
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[08:42:45] <Elarcis> yoo
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[08:47:16] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
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[08:55:18] <Elarcis> icebox: how are you?
[08:55:53] <icebox> Elarcis: excited for moleculer services :)
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[08:57:27] <Elarcis> icebox: molecul… what?
[08:59:01] <icebox> Elarcis: trying a new architecture... using https://moleculer.services/ I would like to port microservices on the frontend side... the classical microservices on the backend provide data or calculate something... on the frontend they update the template... they act as the component and communicate between them like the microservices on the backend... it is a sort of attempt to unify MV* and Redux in a microservice architecture
[08:59:17] <icebox> Elarcis: it seems a good new toy for the weekend
[08:59:19] <icebox> :P
[09:02:05] <Elarcis> icebox: interesting
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[09:12:03] <icebox> Elarcis: well... the main advantage would be a super coherent pattern in the backend and in the frontend
[09:12:45] <icebox> apart the usual advs for the microservice (and the cons like fragmentation and the need of an orchestrator) :)
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[09:22:04] <Elarcis> icebox: maybe one day we’ll get to design microservices as a fully decentralized system, imagine that
[09:22:48] <Pyrrhus6661> morning #angularjs
[09:23:01] <icebox> almost there with attempts like micro of zeit.co (with now) or stdlib.com
[09:23:08] <icebox> Pyrrhus6661: hey
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[09:44:14] <Elarcis> OT: considering to move from self-hosting my e-mails to some secure service like protonmail…
[09:44:44] <icebox> Elarcis: I have been using protonmail :)
[09:45:10] <Elarcis> icebox: are you satisfied with it?
[09:46:29] <icebox> Elarcis: yes, I am and I have been using the basic (free) account... for me it is a secondary account
[09:47:04] <icebox> Elarcis: for other email providers... see https://spreadprivacy.com/how-to-remove-google/ there is also https://tutanota.com/
[09:47:19] <Elarcis> icebox: thank you!
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[09:49:00] <Elarcis> "Android -> iOS (paid)" wow, jumping from Scylla to Charybdis
[09:49:22] <yrc> Hi! I have written my cross-component sync (Angular1.6+TS). Using $onChanges led to nothing. Hovewer $doCheck did work (by storing the known value, and comparing with the current value at each call). But is this the right way?
[09:49:22] <Pyrrhus6661> totally missing aosp and lineageos...
[09:50:12] <icebox> OT: very nice thread about tc39 experience... https://twitter.com/maggiepint/status/971801704801886209
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[09:51:01] <icebox> Pyrrhus6661: I suppose the point is we need to start paying something to save our privacy
[09:51:19] <icebox> yrc: no
[09:51:33] <Pyrrhus6661> icebox, true. but I don´t believe buying into the apple ecosystem gives you that.
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[09:52:01] <Pyrrhus6661> the other alternatives the sites mentions are on point though.
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[09:52:11] <icebox> Pyrrhus6661: yes and no... but that was only a suggestion... "Android -> iOS (paid)"
[09:52:30] <yrc> icebox: I thought so.
[09:52:39] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I think the imporant part of that sentence is "(paid)" :)
[09:52:45] <Pyrrhus666> also : using fastmail at work. very happy with it, even if not as privacy-aware as protonmail
[09:53:13] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, paid !== privacy though...
[09:53:47] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed... but nowadays "free" means "I am the product" for sure
[09:53:55] <icebox> there is not a free lunch
[09:54:00] <Elarcis> icebox: very interesting, that link about the TC39
[09:54:18] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, not always. case in point : openssh / openbsd / opensmtp
[09:54:44] <Elarcis> ^
[09:54:47] <icebox> Elarcis: yep... "I came to realize that code changes but standards live in perpetuity."
[09:55:18] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I don't think so... time is not free at all :)
[09:55:19] <Elarcis> icebox: reminds me of someone, but way more humble than him :P
[09:55:53] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I disagree. I use all three, installation is as easy as any paid version
[09:55:54] <icebox> Elarcis: :P
[09:56:32] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I mean it is free for us, but it costs something... at least the dedicated time of a few people
[09:56:51] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, if you use a free product from a commercial entity, you are the product, agreed.
[09:57:01] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, such as using a free protonmail account :P
[09:58:34] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: "you are the product"... ok... about free protonmail account it is business model... just to engage new customers... the point if they don't reach a critical mass, they close the service, because their business is the service not my data
[09:59:00] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: so if I don't pay, I suck
[09:59:26] <Elarcis> icebox: lol
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[10:00:10] <icebox> Elarcis: a bit rude, but it is true... we are too much used to get services for "free"
[10:01:09] <Elarcis> icebox: yup
[10:01:51] <Elarcis> icebox: net neutrality isn’t about paying less, it is about equality.
[10:01:59] <Pyrrhus666> that´s true, we are too used to our free lunch.
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[10:02:00] <Elarcis> icebox: some people seem to forget that
[10:02:18] <icebox> Elarcis: super agreed
[10:03:03] <icebox> protonmail in Switzerland, tutanota in Germany... nice!
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[10:04:02] <partylobby> Is it acceptable to initialize a service in its constructor if it does operations such as connecting to a database?
[10:04:05] <ray02> hello hello
[10:04:11] <ray02> morning channel
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[10:06:33] <Elarcis> partylobby: Angular or AngularJS ?
[10:06:41] <partylobby> Angular
[10:06:41] <icebox> ray02: hey
[10:07:44] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
[10:07:52] <icebox> Elarcis: I noticed angularjs stackblitz template... and vanillae one https://stackblitz.com/
[10:08:48] <Pyrrhus666> I mentioned that like 2 weeks ago :P
[10:09:07] <Pyrrhus666> also svelte. still no vuejs though...
[10:09:08] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ah sorry
[10:09:12] <Pyrrhus666> np ;)
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[10:16:38] <ray02> do you use ofter this online ide?
[10:17:01] <ray02> i don't see a real utility a part for some example
[10:17:13] <Elarcis> partylobby: is your init code crucial to the app or service behavior?
[10:17:46] <Elarcis> partylobby: like, does your app need to show a loading animation while your service is initializing?
[10:17:47] <Pyrrhus6661> ray02, it´s ideal to share working code and test-cases to debug stuff
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[10:20:51] <Elarcis> partylobby: in a nutshell: if your init is non-blocking and simple, sure, you can put it in the constructor, but remember that this way, you won’t be able to instanciate the service without initializing it (like for testing, configuration purposes, etc.)
[10:21:00] <icebox> ray02: all official examples in the docs are stackblitz links
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[10:21:45] <Elarcis> partylobby: if it is more complex, or should be blocking for the rest of the app, etc. you can look up the APP_INITIALIZER token, which allows you to configure pieces of code to execute before the rest of the app is executed
[10:21:54] <ray02> icebox yeah
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[10:22:06] <Elarcis> partylobby: sort of like the run() block of AngularJS, except asynchronous
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[10:22:51] <f2k> Hi, I'm using Angular 1.5x with ngResource for my API requests. What is the common practice to set the charset to UTF-8 of the Content-Type header for EACH request I make?
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[10:23:14] <icebox> f2k: eventually using interceptor
[10:23:15] <partylobby> partylobby: It's non-blocking so no worries about that. Thanks.
[10:23:33] <partylobby> Elarcis: I meant to quote you here ^
[10:23:35] <icebox> f2k: ah... ngResource... no idea... I have been using $http vanilla
[10:23:43] <Elarcis> partylobby: I figured :P
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[10:25:17] <Elarcis> partylobby: one "clean" solution you can have is a dedicated service in your main module for initializing all your app, with a method that returns a promise of your initialized app. You could call your init function there, and if it’s non-blocking, just not make it a part of the promise chain… so you can centralize all the init calls of all your services, and finer tune the init process of your app
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[10:29:17] <partylobby> Elarcis: I'll write down these alternatives. Might come in handy for the test scenarios
[10:29:24] <partylobby> Thanks for the advice
[10:30:20] <f2k> icebox: I looked into the $http default configuration and it is already UTF-8
[10:30:42] <f2k> one of the devs had overwritten the value for the login request
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[10:30:47] <f2k> removing the UTF8 part
[10:30:57] <f2k> thanks for the tip though :)
[10:31:20] <icebox> f2k: nice catch :)
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[11:01:48] <pdobrogost> Hi all!
[11:02:31] <pdobrogost> I noticed Date.parse() not working inside angular expression and found this –
[11:02:31] <pdobrogost> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39386200/does-date-parse-work-inside-angular-expression
[11:02:54] <pdobrogost> Is there any way to make global types such as Date available in angular espressions?
[11:03:13] <Pyrrhus6662> hack the expression engine.
[11:03:31] <Pyrrhus6662> but srsly : no. just make a function and use that.
[11:03:37] <pdobrogost> Thre is no clean, simple way?
[11:03:51] <Pyrrhus6662> using a function is pretty clean
[11:03:56] <pdobrogost> ok, thanks
[11:04:23] <pdobrogost> They should just allow calling function inside expressions then :)
[11:04:52] <pdobrogost> I mean they should allow only function call in expression then.
[11:05:22] <Pyrrhus6662> nah, for most simple cases making a function would be overkill
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[11:08:02] <Booster2ooo> Hello everyone
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[11:08:43] <Booster2ooo> Is there a way to tamper with angular's webpack config without ejecting the app?
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[11:13:19] <icebox> Booster2ooo: maybe, but not recommended
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[11:13:38] <Elarcis> icebox: ADIEU PLUNKER; MIGRATING EVERYTHING TO STACKBLITZ MUAHAHAHA
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[11:15:09] <icebox> Elarcis: perfect... I will update ngirc
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[11:15:37] <Elarcis> icebox: thank you
[11:16:08] <icebox> Booster2ooo: what is your need?
[11:16:36] <icebox> Elarcis: here playing with moleculer... I have nodes and services everywhere :)
[11:17:05] <icebox> Elarcis: terminal consoles logging starting, reconnecting, braodcasting, emitting :)
[11:17:19] <Elarcis> icebox: seems like a cry for help :P
[11:17:53] <icebox> it works (the backend part) :P
[11:20:38] <icebox> Elarcis: the repl is nice... https://pastebin.com/CFJWVMQX
[11:21:55] <icebox> Elarcis: just in time the terminal split feature in vscode :)
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[11:22:42] <Elarcis> icebox: hahaha
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[11:24:43] <SuperTyp> hi all
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[11:25:19] <icebox> SuperTyp: hey
[11:25:23] <Pyrrhus666> hi SuperTyp
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[11:26:59] <yrc> Regarding my inter-component communication, after all I cannot rely on automatic propagation (as in http://plnkr.co/edit/TGlYHILp3kY8XD3U12xm?p=preview) because I do not actually have a field linked to the change; instead there are actions that need to be run when tmhDynamicLocale updates the locale. It happens that this service's code contains `$rootScope.$broadcast('$localeChangeSuccess', localeId,
[11:27:04] <yrc> $locale);` so I guess I am expected to catch this event.
[11:27:53] <yrc> AngularJS doc says that I should use $scope.$on(...), so if I understand correctly, `$on` is a function on the $scope object, right?
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[11:31:40] <Booster2ooo> icebox: removing limitations :D
[11:32:18] <icebox> Booster2ooo: which one?
[11:32:48] <SuperTyp> in angularjs is it necessary to prefix $ to every variable/function/whatever?
[11:32:49] <icebox> yrc: correct
[11:33:38] <icebox> SuperTyp: no... it is a convention for internal vars or builtin methods
[11:33:50] <Booster2ooo> icebox: the limitation that "angular is made for the browser environment", so access modules such as crypto, fs or net when using angular inside electron for instance
[11:34:02] <SuperTyp> ok...makes it hard to read...bad convention imho
[11:34:53] <icebox> SuperTyp: well... using $rootScope, $scope is an anti-pattern :)
[11:35:13] <icebox> SuperTyp: if you don't use events... you have not $broadcast or $emit... so
[11:35:29] <icebox> SuperTyp: there is only $watch in the directives for the attrs :)
[11:37:27] * SuperTyp has no idea what icey is talking about
[11:38:06] <SuperTyp> are you referring to yrc code?
[11:41:02] <yrc> icebox: From what I see, tmhDynamicLocale was _made_ with $broadcast in mind. Is there a way I can catch the event without the anti-pattern of using $scope?
[11:46:28] <icebox> yrc: you know the answer :)
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[11:47:00] <icebox> SuperTyp: no
[11:47:39] <icebox> SuperTyp: I was answering to your question "in angularjs is it necessary to prefix $ to every variable/function/whatever?"
[11:48:16] <SuperTyp> but what do you mean with "$watch in the directvies for the attrs"?
[11:52:34] <icebox> SuperTyp: the only (almost) best practice to use an explicit watcher is listening the attributes of a directives
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[11:53:21] <SuperTyp> ok I guess I need more angularjs knowledge to understand this
[11:56:09] <yrc> icebox: I cannot thank you enough! It's all working now, all Typescript (no `any`) and optimized (no unneeded check for language change) :-) Only task left: bring the icons to my angular-ui datepicker (for some reason, I have empty rectangles instead of arrows/calendar/clock; a problem of path probably...). Cheers!
[11:56:43] <icebox> yrc: you are welcome
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[11:58:01] <icebox> SuperTyp: something like https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15911300/is-it-possible-to-watch-attributes-changes#15911542
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[13:15:57] <yrc> Anyone knows how to use angular-ui-bootstrap with webpack/npm? I have "angular-ui-bootstrap": "2.5.6" in my package.json, which results in node_modules/angular-ui-bootstrap being there. And my web page does show the properly-imported datepicker. However, glyphicons are missing...
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[13:17:46] <yrc> And in node_modules/angular-ui-bootstrap, I do not see fonts/ or anything looking like glyphicons. However, in node_modules/bootstrap/fonts/, I do see files named "glyphicons-halflings-regular.*". But none of these files seem to be included by my webpack config.
[13:18:21] <yrc> What is the proper way to get the glyphicons on screen, with a Typescript/AngularJS app managed with Webpack?
[13:23:03] <yrc> Actually, I'm not even sure that CSS classes glyphicon and glyphicon-chevron-left (for example) are known currently in my application.
[13:23:25] <Pyrrhus6661> yrc, you need the bootstrap package too, for the css
[13:25:10] <yrc> Pyrrhus6661: Oh. Strange that bootstrap is not mentionned in either "dependencies" or "optionalDependencies" (both empty) of angular-ui-bootstrap's package.json... I will try to also import bootstrap.
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[13:26:05] <Pyrrhus6661> yrc, it is mentioned in the setup for ui-bootstrap iirc. it´s not a dep because you must _not_ also use bootstrap´s javascript
[13:27:29] <yrc> Pyrrhus6661: I see. Indeed, there is no index.js in bootstrap, so I guess I should not include bootstrap as a dependency of my AngularJS module. I suppose this will be a pure webpack matter instead.
[13:28:00] <Pyrrhus6661> yrc, or not even that. just link in the stylesheet ;)
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[13:44:18] <yrc> Pyrrhus6661: Where? I have index.html with only webpack-related stuff (eg: <script><%= compilation.assets[htmlWebpackPlugin.files.chunks ...), then I have main.ts, where broad imports are done (import 'jquery'; import 'main.less'), and then main.less. On the Bootstrap side, I have many subdirs: less/, js/, fonts/, and dist/ which seems to be a compile-result of the former ones, and each contains dozens of
[13:44:24] <yrc> files! What goes where?
[13:45:09] <Pyrrhus6661> just add a <link rel=´stylesheet´ href=´some.css´ /> ?
[13:45:23] <icebox> it should be in dist
[13:45:26] <Pyrrhus6661> grab it from a cdn if needed.
[13:48:15] <yrc> Pyrrhus6661, icebox, ok. "dist" is good news: fewer files in there ;-) So I suppose only 2 CSS links should be enough: "bootstrap.min.css" and "bootstrap-theme.min.css". What about the fonts? I have never handled web fonts before. Is there another kind of link for that?
[13:49:16] <Pyrrhus6661> something like <link href="https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Mina" rel="stylesheet">
[13:50:07] <yrc> Are all files necessary? .eot, .svg, .ttf, .woff, .woff2?
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[13:51:10] <Pyrrhus6661> afaik yes, had to do with browser support. I mostly use google fonts, so linking a css does the rest
[13:51:35] <yrc> Hum... I will get the CSS first, then I will see...
[13:51:40] <yrc> Thank you Pyrrhus6661.
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[13:58:41] <yrc> Pyrrhus6661: In the end, simply adding @import '../../../../node_modules/bootstrap/dist/css/bootstrap.min.css'; in main.less solved my issue. This takes care of the glyphs as well.
[13:58:46] <yrc> Thanks again!
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[14:00:58] <Pyrrhus6661> yrc, also an option :)
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[14:49:19] <max_at_> good afternoon
[14:49:49] <Pyrrhus6661> afternoon max_at_
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[14:52:26] <max_at_> yrc: we're importing the bootstrap files manually that we need, eg @import '../../../node_modules/bootstrap/scss/_mixins'; and @import '../../../node_modules/bootstrap/scss/_forms'; .. it enables you to specify bootstrap related variables and get those composed into bootstrap
[14:53:06] <icebox> max_at_: hey
[14:54:50] <yrc> max_at_: Thank you for the information. However, I do not get the point... One more instance of my lacking of knowledge... All this frontend stuff is like a jungle to me, although I'm barely beginning to get my bearings.
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[14:55:51] <max_at_> ;-)
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[14:56:59] <max_at_> grml .. I installed a bouncer but need to get it to work, at least it is occupying my name properly already :-P
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[14:59:51] <Pyrrhus6661> just register your nick. no bouncer needed ;)
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[15:04:06] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: it’s not the same comfort :P
[15:04:14] <max_at_> Pyrrhus666: my nick is registered, sure
[15:04:32] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, comfort schmomfort :P
[15:04:51] <Pyrrhus666> also : bouncers are annoying, you never know if anyone´s actually there...
[15:04:58] <max_at_> I don't like to lose always some lines just because my irc is not running
[15:05:14] <max_at_> I'll have a different away nick, most people don't.
[15:05:16] <Pyrrhus666> that´s where the logs come in handy
[15:05:45] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: most bouncers mark you as inactive when you’re not there
[15:06:17] <max_at_> Sure .. <freenode> max_at is away: Auto away at ...
[15:06:48] <max_at_> Hm and there are often websites that store the log too
[15:06:57] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, like I don´t filter those annoying msgs ;) they just clutter the channel with crap :P
[15:07:31] <Pyrrhus666> max_at_, yes : https://echelog.com/logs/browse/angularjs/
[15:08:18] <max_at_> Ok, I won't change my name anymore. > The use of away nick names is highly discouraged. It is impolite to pollute channels with constant nick name changes.
[15:08:53] <max_at_> you can always check with /whois NAME If someone is there or not
[15:09:37] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, handy... not :P
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[15:12:17] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: stop trolling or I have you listen to Philip Glass for 5 minutes!
[15:13:01] <Pyrrhus666> I´ll just stuff my ears with parsley :P
[15:13:28] <Elarcis> max_at: most IRC client have a "away" status that greys out the username without changing it.
[15:13:44] <max_at> Elarcis: ah, cool
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[15:13:52] <max_at> got LimeChat here, not sure if he handles that
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[15:16:08] <max_at_> yay :-)
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[15:18:22] <icebox> https://www.irccloud.com/ another option
[15:19:52] <max_at> icebox: cool!
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[15:34:15] <icebox> OT: How To “Publish” Multiple Packages From Any Repository In 5 Minutes - https://blog.bitsrc.io/how-to-publish-multiple-packages-from-any-repository-in-5-minutes-9aafd31d85b7
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[15:54:50] <Elarcis> OT: something that I find very interesting with VueJS is the "is" special attribute… allows to inject components in native html tags to preserve valid structure and semantics, like <tr is="MyComponent"></tr>
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[15:59:39] <icebox> just to add a few info... https://vuejs.org/v2/api/#is
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[16:01:37] <icebox> it "is" the Santo Graal of Dynamic Components
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[16:05:32] <Elarcis> icebox: yup, this is where I found out "is" is a thing :P
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[16:08:19] <icebox> loazy loading, dynamic components, state management... pure illusion :P
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[16:09:56] <icebox> I think npm was created for Sindre Sorhus's repositories :)
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[16:14:41] <Pyrrhus666> who now ?
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[16:17:20] <SuperTyp> guys, sometimes I get it done that my routing resolves into an endless cycle
[16:18:06] <SuperTyp> shouldn't angular somehow notice that and cancel the routing as a core functionality?
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[16:21:22] <Pyrrhus666> yes. also: it should just understand what I want instead of demanding correct code :P
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[16:22:11] <Pyrrhus666> (srsly, detecting such things can be hard...)
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[16:27:18] <max_at> anyone using http_interceptors with ngx-translate for translation of error messages for example
[16:28:43] <icebox> SuperTyp: I think there is a sort of detection for that problem... I think I read something in the issues
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[16:29:44] <max_at> When declaring TranslateService inside of an interceptor I am getting circular dependency (there is an open issue on github about this), alternatively trying to load it with Injector, which then leads to max call stack size .. quite odd
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[16:30:13] <SuperTyp> icebox: mh...my browser just loads more and more ram and the tab doesn't respond to anything anymore
[16:31:20] <icebox> SuperTyp: do you mean for "endless cycle" as circular routes?
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[16:32:25] <icebox> SuperTyp: like here https://github.com/vaibhavbparikh/circular-routes
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[16:32:41] <icebox> SuperTyp: basically https://github.com/vaibhavbparikh/circular-routes
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[16:32:48] <icebox> sorry... https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/16743
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[16:36:09] <icebox> off in a few minutes... bye... have a nice weekend
[16:36:28] <Pyrrhus666> later icebox
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[16:37:48] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... regards to the pet :)
[16:37:58] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, will do, thx ;)
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[17:27:35] <bz-> hi, i want to use the recaptcha module with my angular app, but it appears that all the packages available out there are depcrecated or don't work properly. i was wondering if anyone can point me to somewhere containing documentation or a good package for use with angular 5 whereby i can easily implement the recaptcha modul
[17:27:41] <bz-> thank you..
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[17:31:07] <Elarcis> bz-: second result looks maintained enough https://www.google.fr/search?q=recaptcha+angular+5
[17:31:25] <bz-> thank you, checking
[17:34:11] <Elarcis> bz-: honestly I just pasted your question in google and it worked right away, I don’t know how you managed to not find it
[17:34:27] <Elarcis> https://www.google.fr/search?q=i+want+to+use+the+recaptcha+module+with+my+angular+app%2C+but+it+appears+that+all+the+packages+available+out+there+are+depcrecated+or+don%27t+work+properly.+i+was+wondering+if+anyone+can+point+me+to+somewhere+containing+documentation+or+a+good+package+for+use+with+angular+5+whereby+i+can+easily+implement+the+recaptcha+modul
[17:34:53] <Elarcis> :P
[17:35:15] <zicada> :D
[17:35:53] <bz-> well
[17:36:20] <bz-> i'd tried a bunch of packages, some of which had installation problems. that particular package i had seen before, but decided there was not ample documentation
[17:36:38] <bz-> so, was hoping someone knew something i did not
[17:36:54] <Elarcis> bz-: not ample docs? what info are you looking for that isn’t in the npmjs page?
[17:37:30] <bz-> the .response is a little hazy for me, and its usage
[17:37:53] <bz-> getResponse()
[17:38:11] <bz-> i was hoping there might be more verbose documentation, it seems a little disparate
[17:39:17] <bz-> because, there is the server component, and i am wondering where that falls into place
[17:39:40] <bz-> unless, this one doesn't use the server-side component, and does a call to the google api via client....
[17:40:17] <zicada> bz-: https://plnkr.co/edit/JNVNl0WJl3bFuWtt2O9i?p=preview
[17:40:23] <zicada> just look at and play with that
[17:40:24] <zicada> until you get it
[17:40:41] <zicada> you have the files on the left side. Easymode
[17:40:41] <Elarcis> bz-: it still requires an understanding of how reCAPTCHA works https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/verify
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[17:41:01] <Elarcis> bz-: you get a token that you must validate yourself, it doesn’t seem to be doing it by itself somehow.
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[17:42:24] <bz-> i see, ok, i will try this out. thank you.
[17:42:49] <zicada> line 33 to 39 should help you
[17:42:57] <Elarcis> bz-: I never worked with reCAPTCHA but I suppose you have to send the token you get with your form data so that your server validates it
[17:43:09] <bz-> right
[17:43:15] <bz-> it goes back to google...
[17:43:17] <bz-> ok, thank you.
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[17:44:01] <Elarcis> zicada: you know, I never really wondered how reCAPTCHA worked, but I admit it is pretty cool
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[17:44:34] <zicada> It is
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[17:46:59] <zicada> no need to run this by your own backend, just have their clients ask google. Obviously it implies trusting google, but that's more of a philosophical question i guess.
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[17:47:32] <Elarcis> zicada: doesn’t it imply more trusting what the client says?
[17:47:55] <zicada> it implies google trusts what the client says
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[17:48:11] <zicada> a chain of trust
[17:48:14] <zicada> :>
[17:48:45] <Elarcis> zicada: no, I mean isn’t the validation just making a request to Google with the passed token and get something like "definitely a human"?
[17:49:33] <zicada> it runs some local algorithm on the client, lets consider it a black box, that decides whether or not the client its running on is a human
[17:49:41] <zicada> well, controlled by a human
[17:50:06] <zicada> and then it tells google about this, whick lets the user complete whatever thing it was trying to do with data to your backend
[17:50:29] <zicada> if google doesnt think its a human, it doesnt send the form. You don't need anything more than this.
[17:50:39] <Elarcis> zicada: but how do you validate that the token is a good one?
[17:50:56] <zicada> the black box says it is
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[17:51:11] <Elarcis> zicada: apparently that’s not how that component I linked work
[17:51:20] <Elarcis> zicada: or I missed a detail
[17:51:54] <zicada> hm, i could be wrong too, i always assumed its a piace of js google wrote that runs locally, basically client side validation
[17:52:15] <SuperTyp> note to myself: redirect to "" is a bad idea
[17:52:24] <zicada> but with some keypair sort of thing with google to test it
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[17:53:10] <zicada> the specifics of detecting bots notwithstanding youre just saying they could fake or pretend to be the black box right
[17:54:18] <mjones> Anyone know why when I add encapsulation: ViewEncapsulation.Native to a component, it is no longer visible in my app?
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[18:48:46] <pdobrogost> Does someone know how to get readonly select in https://github.com/vitalets/x-editable ? e-readonly="true" does not work for select as it sets "readonly" attribute which does not work for select.
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[18:50:45] <Natalie> I'm trying to figure out when a directive should use "controller: function()" and when it should use "link: function()". I can't seem to find any documentation that makes it clear, other than to vaguely refer to the controller being accessible outside of the directive. What are the best practices?
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[18:54:40] <Guest96100> any1 else find that block ui is wonky?
[18:54:43] <Guest96100> lol
[18:55:07] <Guest96100> and im thinking its just the angular version not the original jquery one
[18:55:22] <Guest96100> one that usees .get(instance)
[18:56:49] <Natalie> I'm using AngularJS 1.5.2, btw, if that matters
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[18:57:14] <Guest96100> Natalie: u can just use link for now
[18:57:26] <Guest96100> ull see that u may need some more organization
[18:57:38] <Natalie> Is there anything in particular that I would need controller for?
[18:57:39] <Guest96100> if it starts getting crazy
[18:58:03] <Guest96100> then u can use a dedicated controller to organize it
[18:58:27] <Guest96100> or perhaps u want a base controller that all ur directives use
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[19:05:45] <Natalie> I'm trying to clean up existing code. And it's kind of spread all over the place. Some things usually only links, some only controllers, and some use a mishmash of both.
[19:06:28] <Natalie> Usually by throwing "$scope.ctrl = this" at the top of the controller, which I'm gonna guess is probably not best practice.
[19:06:50] <Guest96100> no
[19:07:10] <Guest96100> only service would u have this
[19:07:30] <Natalie> I'm trying to clean it up. Unfortunately it's all over the place.
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[19:07:47] <Guest96100> ya but dont worry about that
[19:07:55] <Guest96100> im sure its mostly proper
[19:08:09] <Guest96100> perhaps u can build some nice base classes
[19:08:27] <Guest96100> and start piping the controlers to use them
[19:08:46] <Natalie> They've been built around the "It works, then we're done" philosophy.
[19:09:02] <Guest96100> i kind of like that
[19:09:31] <Guest96100> i dont like ppl who start organising the code from the start
[19:09:41] <Natalie> There's a lot of cruft. Random variables and attributes and functions that aren't actually doing anything, or are broken, but nothing breaks because they aren't being used.
[19:09:57] <Guest96100> ok
[19:10:07] <Guest96100> sounds like u got some work to do
[19:10:19] <Natalie> And my only documentation is the code. :) So I'm trying to organize my documentation, lol
[19:11:53] <Natalie> Anyways, that's why I'm trying to figure out how things in angularjs are "supposed to work", so I can decide what makes the most sense for code structure.
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[19:14:39] <hever> Hello I'm using angular with bootstrap (ng) and want to set the content for a popover programatically from within angular. How could I do things with the html elements I would normally do with jQuery?
[19:15:16] <hever> Other Idea is to inherit the Popover and place in some functionallity by myself but even for this I don't really have a good starting point...
[19:16:01] <hever> I want to use the content of another div as content of a bootstrap popover
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[19:22:43] <hever> other: how could I do $("#popover-button").popover({ something }); in angular?
[19:23:23] <Natalie> What does your angular code currently look like?
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[19:36:48] <hever> Natalie, I finally found a solution but I want it the other way around: https://pastebin.com/aGrNHf2D
[19:37:32] <hever> Very intersting approach.... but I want to refer inside ngbPopover to the div and not from the div to ngbPopover.... is this possible as well?
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[19:38:24] <hever> by the way: my example shows a popover on big screens and a collapse on smaller screens...
[19:38:47] <Natalie> Have you looked at angular bootstrap modal? https://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap/#!#modal
[19:39:14] <Guest96100> Natalie: no code comes with documentation
[19:39:16] <Guest96100> lol
[19:39:20] <Guest96100> lets be real here
[19:39:44] <Natalie> My code at least comes with comments for the tricky parts, and is generally organized to make sense.
[19:40:18] <hever> Natalie, (I'm on angular 5 and popover is exactly what I want)
[19:40:19] <Natalie> I try to make "APIs" between my components, rather than strew random function calls around that are impossible to follow.
[19:40:31] <Guest96100> hever: uib-popover
[19:40:56] <Guest96100> u using angular bootstrap rite
[19:41:18] <hever> Actually I just got it but just want to turn it around to specify the content in the div and not as a ngbPopover property
[19:41:39] <Natalie> https://ng-bootstrap.github.io/#/components/popover/examples
[19:41:50] <Guest96100> ya
[19:41:55] <hever> how is the concept #popover="ngbPopover" called? (sorry I'm quite new to angular)
[19:42:01] <Guest96100> that will have all the diff examples
[19:42:12] <Natalie> I've got 6 weeks experience, and it's all AngularJS XD
[19:42:19] <Guest96100> wow
[19:42:26] <Guest96100> u guys r in deep shit
[19:42:33] <Guest96100> :>
[19:42:38] <hever> Natalie, haha of course I read it and the code as well... but it's not documented there
[19:42:47] <Natalie> Luckily, I'm good a picking things up on the fly.
[19:43:56] <Guest96100> just realize that sometimes the other persons code or plugins may not work
[19:43:58] <Natalie> Looks like most of the examples are in typescript. I'm not familiar with it.
[19:44:19] <hever> Ah ok, the concept I used is called Template reference variables: https://angular.io/guide/template-syntax#template-reference-variables--var-
[19:48:02] <hever> ah got it... you can use innerHTML on Template reference variables... thanks
[19:48:12] <wafflejock> Natalie originally 2+ was supposed to be something that you could use es6 or ts (or maybe dart) with but think it's all TS at this point https://angular.io/guide/typescript-configuration
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[19:51:11] <wafflejock> Natalie http://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/typescript-in-5-minutes.html TS itself isn't so bad to pick up mostly a matter of understanding how to add types to things that are already available in ES6
[19:52:11] <Guest96100> ts is ok
[19:52:15] <wafflejock> one thing that might seem strange if you haven't seen it before is generics http://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/generics.html but not a lot more to it
[19:52:23] <Guest96100> i like the lil types and stuff
[19:52:40] <Guest96100> its less code too
[19:53:12] <wafflejock> the code is less noisey than the generated code for sure but a bit more metadata for component definition than with react
[19:53:40] <wafflejock> not a big deal though just extra decorator stuff for pointing to styles/template and modifying default behaviors/properties of the component
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[19:54:24] <wafflejock> ng-cli makes it not really an issue anyhow
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[19:57:14] <Natalie> I've played with generics in other languages.
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[19:57:52] <Guest96100> mingy-cli
[19:57:58] <wafflejock> cool yea I mean aside from that and adding regular types to variables it's mostly hands off
[19:58:09] <wafflejock> er rather not much different from ES6
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[20:01:01] <Guest96100> @mingy-cli
[20:01:56] <Guest96100> prety sure u can do angular-latest with javascrtipt
[20:02:01] <Guest96100> reagular
[20:02:22] <Guest96100> and the cli builder does the rest
[20:02:35] <Guest96100> as u know ts gets converted to js anyhow
[20:02:43] <Guest96100> browsers dont know what ts is
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[20:11:37] <Guest96100> am i wrong?
[20:13:48] <wafflejock> no that's right
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[20:14:10] <wafflejock> some browsers know some es6 at this point but still I use babel when using es6 stuff anyhow to be more backwards compatible
[20:14:25] <Guest96100> exactly
[20:14:29] <wafflejock> TS the types are all stripped during the 'compile time' before anything gets to the browser
[20:14:44] <Guest96100> this is why i hesitate to do much work in ts now
[20:15:10] <wafflejock> yeah I mean it is Google and MS pushing it though and who makes the most widely used browsers....
[20:15:14] <Guest96100> i say once browser can read TS native then i will
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[20:15:32] <wafflejock> not to say TS will become native anytime soon but I don't see it as impossible
[20:15:41] <Guest96100> lol
[20:15:48] <Guest96100> its not like they are pushing it
[20:15:55] <Guest96100> they simply cant do it
[20:16:36] <wafflejock> eh I doubt that's true I mean they had silverlight plugin before that was their own VM/plugin running in the browser
[20:18:22] <wafflejock> I just don't know that there's a huge benefit to doing all that work, the types help with static analysis and compile time errors
[20:19:25] <wafflejock> also I'll take TS over PropTypes nonsense any day of the week :P
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[20:23:01] <Guest96100> lets face it all code is nonsense
[20:23:15] <Guest96100> wait dont let me stop there
[20:23:22] <Guest96100> all science is nonsense
[20:23:44] <wafflejock> eh yeah I mean CS is by far the least sciency science
[20:24:03] <wafflejock> I rarely see someone using the scientific method and testing is still something we have to fight for
[20:24:27] <Guest96100> yeah tdd?
[20:24:44] <wafflejock> it's a nice thought for sure :)
[20:25:01] <Guest96100> well this is what i dont like
[20:25:42] <Guest96100> lots of ppl bitchin about testing but then dont even know how to do it
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[20:26:00] <Guest96100> like throwing out all these buzzwords
[20:26:08] <Guest96100> we need to do TDD!!!
[20:26:23] <Guest96100> i am of the thot that
[20:26:36] <Guest96100> okay u scream TDD then u do that
[20:26:44] <Guest96100> lets see ur work
[20:27:11] <Guest96100> oh well i guess u dont really know wtf ur talking about
[20:27:15] <Guest96100> so wtf
[20:28:11] <Guest96100> i have e2e functional tests where its needed
[20:29:21] <Guest96100> but writing a unit test for every litle thing is just pointless
[20:30:08] <Guest96100> also the thot that a unit test comes before the program is just garbage
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[20:31:27] <wafflejock> given infinite timeline/budget TDD is in theory great but practical reality of it is most clients aren't willing to invest and would rather build up technical debt and pay the interest down the line, think having some tests is good and reasonable but like you said 'true TDD' is a bit insane for most businesses to swallow
[20:32:31] <Guest96100> i dont see how tdd is part of tech debt
[20:32:35] <wafflejock> that said I do like that Angular makes testing a thing that you can do relatively easily and puts it up front on most things, feel like with React things it's always an afterthought
[20:32:58] <wafflejock> if you have tests that validate your code and you don't write extra cruft you don't have cruft that you're maintaining or need to dig through
[20:34:17] <wafflejock> helps with YAGNI (ya ain't gonna need it)
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[20:35:07] <Guest96100> umm
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[20:35:23] <Guest96100> yagni is part of progress
[20:35:38] <Guest96100> u never know what u need until u need it
[20:35:55] <Guest96100> and u never know what u dont need untill u dont need it
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[20:38:03] <wafflejock> not necessarily true, if I want to say compute a mortgage payment I need to know the mortgage rate and the loan amount, given some y I want to compute I can determine what are the inputs I need, YAGNI is saying you shouldn't build things on the assumption you might need them in the future (cause who knows it might be useful)
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[20:38:34] <wafflejock> if you do TDD then you wouldn't have any code that you don't need it would all be there to fulfill some requirement written in a test
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[20:41:10] <Guest96100> hahaha
[20:41:37] <Guest96100> seems like now were just calling tests a requirement
[20:41:42] <Guest96100> i mean
[20:41:52] <Guest96100> requerments are test
[20:42:21] <wafflejock> yeah I mean I pretty much see it that way ideally with TDD you would have a list of requirements you would translate into tests
[20:43:08] <Guest96100> but thats again scientist saying a lot w out saying anything
[20:43:21] <Guest96100> a program needs instructions
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[20:46:14] <Guest96100> and thats the problem i think for me
[20:46:29] <Guest96100> ppl now calling programs tests
[20:47:08] <Guest96100> another words, yeah ur program should fkn work dood
[20:47:35] <Guest96100> there are rules to programming
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[20:49:53] <Guest96100> tests should try to break that program
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[20:53:22] <wafflejock> yeah sort of... I mean tests should be hitting the edge cases and making sure the output for some particular input is correct, easy to do automated testing when it comes to testing pure functions not so easy when it comes to testing UIs still unfortunately
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[21:06:13] <Guest96100> well we had a good trolling session
[21:06:27] <Guest96100> what normal ppl would call a discussion
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[21:58:26] <Natalie> I'm looking for some very simple testing setup. Right now, the project I have has karma/jasmine setup, but not actual tests in place. All I'm looking for at this point is "Open a browser to this url, and alert me if there are any errors in the console.". I'd just like an automated way to do this, with multiple pages, and possibly multiple browsers.
[22:00:38] <wafflejock> Natalie 1.x or 2+ for that one?
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[22:03:29] <Natalie> 1.5.2
[22:03:48] <wafflejock> where are you stuck trying to set it up right now?
[22:04:17] <Natalie> I've tried reading through the Karma / Jasmine docs, but they seem to go into a detail that I'm not getting.
[22:04:23] <Guest96100> dont worry Natalie most businesses still using angular1
[22:04:25] <wafflejock> you will need a karma.conf.js that basically tells it which scripts to load up and tells it which browsers to use to run tests
[22:04:38] <Natalie> I really have no idea if I'm using the right tools, or how to set them up.
[22:04:59] <Guest96100> wafflejock: karma wut
[22:05:03] <wafflejock> aside from that jasmine is used for writing the actual test specs (describing a test suite which is just a collection of tests)
[22:05:11] <Guest96100> lets get me all setup w all this junk
[22:05:32] <Guest96100> yeah the whole thing w testsuites
[22:05:51] <Guest96100> like wat do i need to download
[22:05:57] <wafflejock> mmm give me a bit will see if I can get some minimal setup going here (strip down some old projects or something so I can just share what's needed)
[22:06:19] <Guest96100> also wth is it gona test?
[22:06:23] <wafflejock> probably like 20min here so can spend some time reading up/poking around but will try to share something back soonish
[22:06:33] <wafflejock> most basic sanity check is does the module load
[22:06:38] <Guest96100> can i build a functional test?
[22:08:30] <Natalie> I'm used to writing normal tests, where I'm just calling functions and stuff. I have /no/ idea how I'm supposed to write tests for a browser UI.
[22:10:25] <wafflejock> Natalie well karma/jasmine is just for unit tests really, what you're used to, you can launch browsers to see what's going on with the test execution (or even have it create/add a copy of the element to the test runner page) but typically for E2E tests that deal with the actual UI testing you'd still use something like protractor/webdriver that can/does actually fire up the whole site and do testing more like a regular user/UA/QA person would
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[22:30:34] <merpnderp> Can someone help me figure out why my ng-model isn't being populated with any values ?
[22:30:36] <merpnderp> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JZGTEdwS/
[22:30:48] <Natalie> Try a dot
[22:31:39] <Natalie> http://learnwebtutorials.com/why-ng-model-value-should-contain-a-dot
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[22:32:38] <merpnderp> ugh, the select directive is the wurst.
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[22:39:49] <merpnderp> Natalie: you were right. Thanks :)
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[22:41:16] <Natalie> No problem. From what I understand, it's a common issue and I've run into it myself a couple times.
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[22:58:09] <hever> I'm in angular 5 is it common to put methods in a model? Like I'm going to put a validation function in a model class, does this make sense?
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[23:02:24] <zicada> hever: no
[23:02:39] <zicada> component class
[23:02:57] <zicada> model should not be about anything but sending and receiving data
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[23:04:49] <wafflejock> Natalie https://github.com/shusain/Angular1xUnitTesting sorry took longer than expected to strip things out of there let me know if you have questions or issues
[23:07:28] <wafflejock> should be able to just clone, npm install && bower install and run 'gulp test' to execute unit tests against chrome, in the karma.conf.js you can change out the browsers launched for running the tests in the src/client/paymentform-controller-spec.js you can see the test definitions (I commented out and left a couple of common things to be testing in there)
[23:07:54] <hever> zicada, so you mean I should write a validation function in the according component that just acceses to model?
[23:08:09] <hever> doesn't look thaat clean...
[23:08:24] <hever> But I understand to keep it out of the model
[23:09:29] <wafflejock> hever you can write custom validators and use them in forms where needed so you won't need to rewrite the validation code for different places it's used in the view
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[23:10:22] <zicada> beerdrop: i dont think you need to write anything at all m8
[23:10:30] <zicada> oh hever
[23:10:33] <zicada> sorry im stoned
[23:11:19] <hever> wafflejock, I'm validating data before I'm sending them to a rest service...
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[23:12:26] <errgshfdf> Is there a way to listen for keyup/down/press on a radio input? Blur doesn't give me the key event and I want to check for if it's tab.
[23:12:28] <wafflejock> hever is there no feedback in the form to the user about the validity of the fields? I guess I just don't see why that's an issue
[23:12:54] <hever> not really...
[23:13:09] <wafflejock> uh why?
[23:13:23] <wafflejock> I mean won't they need to know the field is invalid to fix it?
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[23:14:27] <hever> well... its more to protect the rest service... its very uncommon that a user would enter such data with common usage... but I'm thinking about adding it...
[23:14:28] <wafflejock> anyhow I guess if that's not a concern you could do the validity check in the service before sending the data
[23:14:51] <hever> wafflejock, thanks yes
[23:15:43] <wafflejock> no prob
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