March 6, 2018 
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March 6, 2018 [00:01:23] *** upinspace <upinspace!~upinspace@174-081-018-235.dhcp.chtrptr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:06:45] *** wafflejock <wafflejock!~wafflejoc@12.106.136.114> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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The sidebar controller calls 'sidebarService.getAuthorizedMenuItems(userCreds)' properly on first page load, and returns an array of states matching the user's role. However, when updating the user's role (AKA logging-in), even after the login promise is returned, and the template-view changes via "$state.go('welcome');" and[01:34:27] <SmokinGrunts> getAuthorizedMenuItems() returns the proper array in console, the *view* is still not updated...[01:34:44] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:35:16] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has joined #angularjs[01:41:06] *** nivag <nivag!~gavin@121.99.202.67> has joined #angularjs[01:45:01] *** Doginal <Doginal!~agriggs@unaffiliated/doginal> has joined #angularjs[01:53:48] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:54:16] *** bengillies <bengillies!~bengillie@bengillies.net> has joined #angularjs[01:54:16] *** cotko4 <cotko4!~ahmed@188.230.161.23> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:58:51] *** mrkake <mrkake!~kake@209.6.195.29> has quit IRC (Quit: ouch)[02:03:00] *** mrkake <mrkake!~kake@209.6.195.29> has joined #angularjs[02:16:19] *** AtumT <AtumT!~IRC@177.206.150.122.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:16:27] *** axsuul <axsuul!~axsuul@138.229.82.182> has quit IRC (Quit: Peace)[02:21:04] *** axsuul <axsuul!~axsuul@138.229.82.182> has joined #angularjs[02:29:32] *** davidmichaelkarr <davidmichaelkarr!uid71216@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhkbdsmbqaothlop> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:33:39] *** SmokinGrunts <SmokinGrunts!~SmokinGru@162-226-245-243.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:36:52] *** Z3R0 <Z3R0!~mischief@cpe-24-55-15-236.austin.res.rr.com> has joined #angularjs[02:38:27] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@pa49-183-88-68.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #angularjs[02:39:17] *** Z3R0 <Z3R0!~mischief@cpe-24-55-15-236.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:52:21] *** CssNoOb <CssNoOb!~devteam@203.190.74.70> has joined #angularjs[02:52:48] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@42-2-252-018.static.netvigator.com> has joined #angularjs[02:54:28] *** al-damiri <al-damiri!uid142631@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nskecjmfgtdvyiiq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:55:29] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@42-2-252-018.static.netvigator.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:56:17] *** marr <marr!~ccc@77-253-112-252.adsl.inetia.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[03:04:55] *** beerdrop <beerdrop!~beerdrop@c-107-2-115-62.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:12:03] *** Z3R0 <Z3R0!~mischief@24.27.227.128> has joined #angularjs[03:15:59] *** Z3R0 <Z3R0!~mischief@24.27.227.128> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:16:28] *** Z3R0 <Z3R0!~mischief@24.27.227.128> has joined #angularjs[03:17:15] *** Z3R0 <Z3R0!~mischief@24.27.227.128> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:17:50] *** Zeioth <Zeioth!~Zeioth@44.red-83-38-174.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:20:02] *** beerdrop <beerdrop!~beerdrop@c-107-2-115-62.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[03:22:54] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[03:28:47] *** {DV8} <{DV8}!~Deviate@135-23-72-68.cpe.pppoe.ca> has joined #angularjs[03:32:05] *** d10n-work <d10n-work!uid37161@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ogvfdvwopxrqqvvl> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[03:32:38] *** SmokinGrunts <SmokinGrunts!~SmokinGru@67.167.126.128> has joined #angularjs[03:34:44] *** bc_ <bc_!~user@unaffiliated/bc> has joined #angularjs[03:35:14] *** bc__ <bc__!~user@198.13.88.224> has joined #angularjs[03:37:35] *** bc____ <bc____!~user@198.13.88.224> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:37:55] *** bc <bc!~user@unaffiliated/bc> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:43:02] *** BlinkyBill <BlinkyBill!~BlinkyBil@203-173-33-227.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #angularjs[03:44:05] <BlinkyBill> Can anyone shed some light on using the static injector? I'm having trouble adding in the dependencies. A working example would be appreciated.[03:45:09] <BlinkyBill> To take a step back, I've got some model classes that need to access my services. I assume using the injector is the easiest way to achieve this? IF there's a better pattern, I'm all ears.[03:53:39] <SmokinGrunts> BlinkyBill whatcha using so far?[03:54:19] <SmokinGrunts> slash-can-you-provide-a plunkr, jsfiddle, or even a pastebin with even some pseudocode?[03:54:43] <BlinkyBill> I'm trying to access the inspectionService, and all the other services in the array are the dependencies.[03:54:46] <BlinkyBill> Injector.create([{provide: InspectionService, useClass: InspectionService,[03:54:46] <BlinkyBill> deps:[DatabaseService, MediaService, ActivityService]}]);[03:54:47] <SmokinGrunts> also, which angular, and typescript or es6?[03:54:47] *** mistralol <mistralol!~mistralol@2a02:8010:613a:0:ba27:ebff:fe59:b195> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:55:28] <BlinkyBill> latest angular (5?). typescript. I'll create a pastebin with some psudo code.[03:55:37] <SmokinGrunts> kk[03:56:35] *** mistralol <mistralol!~mistralol@2a02:8010:613a:0:ba27:ebff:fe59:b195> has joined #angularjs[03:59:57] <SmokinGrunts> also, note that I'm personally very much in a self-inflicted hold on the 'newest' patterns. They are changing FAR too quickly to warrant any sort of personal, long-term integration-of-learning. That's just my own opinion, though.[04:02:09] <SmokinGrunts> one of todays largest hurdles, IMHO. 'Getting everyone on the same page.'[04:03:05] <SmokinGrunts> plus, general reference material (aside from the angular docs) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45585606/staticinjector-vs-reflectiveinjector-in-angular[04:04:23] <BlinkyBill> Here's an idea of what I'm trying to do. https://codepen.io/RhinoLance/pen/MQMoKV[04:04:30] <SmokinGrunts> I think bleeding-edge in this arena is more of a distraction, than anything else. Those of you whom this doesn't apply; you know who you are[04:04:45] <BlinkyBill> Two angular services, and a third class I'd like to access a service from.[04:05:26] <BlinkyBill> That's half the issue with this, as it's brand new, and there is very little info out there.[04:05:46] <SmokinGrunts> aye[04:08:39] <SmokinGrunts> are you dead-set on doing 'bleeding-edge' development? If you aren't, I'd highly recommend finding the last version -with the largest support-base- that you can find, and set a personal 'hold' of maybe ~one year, and stick there...[04:09:30] <SmokinGrunts> also, please reference https://github.com/angular/angular/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#breaking-changes heavily as you go, if you decide 'bleeding-edge' is for you.[04:10:18] <BlinkyBill> Definately don't care for bleeding edge. I'm updating an Angular 1 app at the moment, and just started with the current version.[04:10:21] <BlinkyBill> :/[04:10:45] <SmokinGrunts> I'm still on Angular ~1.6.6 myself, FWIW[04:10:56] <SmokinGrunts> much easier maintenance[04:11:40] <BlinkyBill> haha[04:11:58] <SmokinGrunts> your best bet, I think, is to stick to the version that 'feels' best for you; one with much community support, many stack-exchange answers, and general 3rd party library support[04:12:27] *** kneeki <kneeki!~kneeki@c-76-28-253-109.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:12:29] <BlinkyBill> bbs[04:12:35] <SmokinGrunts> I don't know why modern web-development hasn't followed the patterns-of-old, like C or Java spec updates[04:16:53] <SmokinGrunts> also be on the lookout for devs on the angular team who then startup consulting companies, creating a de-facto conflict-of-interest.[04:17:06] <SmokinGrunts> that shit sucks.[04:17:40] <SmokinGrunts> T burleson, I'm lookin' at you.[04:18:34] <SmokinGrunts> angular material*[04:19:21] *** amcorreia <amcorreia!~amcorreia@201.22.235.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:26:11] *** h66jj655j5 <h66jj655j5!d1d2b814@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.210.184.20> has joined #angularjs[04:26:17] <h66jj655j5> hi[04:26:57] <h66jj655j5> Can I make a controller that has access to the ng-model attribute value of its tag?[04:27:50] <h66jj655j5> I want a controller that wraps the angluar-ui-tinymce textarea component.[04:31:32] *** replay <replay!~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[04:33:53] <BlinkyBill> SmokinGrunts, I think half the issue is that unlike other languages which can control the spec from coding to compilation to machine code, JS is severely limited in the language features it can offer. Hence frameworks which attempt to improve functionality, which they can do well.[04:34:36] <SmokinGrunts> ^ aye BlinkyBill . The browsers and their teams are a huge part of that, unfortunately[04:34:52] <BlinkyBill> +1[04:35:37] *** PeDr0_HuG02 <PeDr0_HuG02!~kvirc@201.150.52.177> has joined #angularjs[04:37:58] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[04:38:40] *** PeDr0_HuG0 <PeDr0_HuG0!~kvirc@201.150.52.177> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[04:41:45] *** kexmex <kexmex!~kexmex@unaffiliated/kexmex> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[04:42:59] *** kexmex <kexmex!~kexmex@unaffiliated/kexmex> has joined #angularjs[04:43:41] <CssNoOb> Hi guys[04:46:23] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@pa49-183-88-68.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[04:47:59] <BlinkyBill> I like your username CssNoOb. After many years, I still am.[04:48:44] <h66jj655j5> Should I make a directive or a controller if I'm trying to wrap an existing component?[04:50:58] *** axsuul <axsuul!~axsuul@138.229.82.182> has quit IRC (Quit: Peace)[04:51:53] <h66jj655j5> Bueller?[04:53:27] *** ceterizine <ceterizine!~ceterizin@c-73-38-254-221.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:54:02] *** ceterizine <ceterizine!~ceterizin@c-73-38-254-221.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[04:54:03] <BlinkyBill> h66jj655j5, what version of Angular?[04:54:11] <BlinkyBill> Assuming 1?[04:54:31] <h66jj655j5> 1.5.9[04:54:36] <h66jj655j5> BlinkyBill:[04:55:40] *** axsuul <axsuul!~axsuul@138.229.82.182> has joined #angularjs[04:55:48] <BlinkyBill> I don't think it really matters that much. A directive has a controller too. If it's primarily to create a custom HTML component, use a directive. Otherwise a controller.[04:56:44] <BlinkyBill> SmokinGrunts, I found a super simple solution to my issues. I created a static reference to my class from within itself, then use that reference from my poco classes.[04:57:05] <BlinkyBill> *static ref to my service[04:57:11] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@pa49-183-88-68.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #angularjs[04:57:23] <h66jj655j5> BlinkyBill: how do I hook the child thing in the template up to the model from the parent component's tag's ng-model attribute?[04:58:09] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@pa49-183-88-68.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:58:22] <BlinkyBill> h66jj655j5, can you try and explain that differently, or create a code sample so demonstrate what you're trying to do?[04:59:36] *** kexmex <kexmex!~kexmex@unaffiliated/kexmex> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[05:00:40] <SmokinGrunts> BlinkyBill, nice![05:01:03] <SmokinGrunts> my wife is taking a pregnancy test right now :x :o[05:01:31] <SmokinGrunts> LETS HOPE ITS JUST PISS![05:01:32] <BlinkyBill> Woot! Fingers crossed[05:01:40] <SmokinGrunts> I ain't ready for progeny *yet*[05:01:44] <BlinkyBill> Oh, hahaha[05:02:28] <SmokinGrunts> gotta get my latest project to market, dish-out patent rights, and finish the plans for the startup company[05:02:44] <SmokinGrunts> THEN I can have a hopefully wee-lil son or daughter[05:02:46] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@pa49-183-88-68.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #angularjs[05:03:30] <SmokinGrunts> BlinkyBill, also what prob were you having before? dependencies not coming through proper?[05:05:04] <BlinkyBill> https://codepen.io/RhinoLance/pen/MQMoKV Trying to manually inject a service into a poco class.[05:05:59] <BlinkyBill> SmokinGrunts, you're never really ready to be a parent till you become one :D[05:06:30] <SmokinGrunts> hehe so I'm tole[05:06:49] <h66jj655j5> BlinkyBill: https://plnkr.co/edit/6YwRh8NQSFWjDUwDFKML?p=catalogue[05:06:55] <BlinkyBill> My eldest started university this year :)[05:07:17] <SmokinGrunts> oooooh very nice[05:07:29] <SmokinGrunts> what words didja leave 'em with?[05:07:50] <BlinkyBill> ?[05:08:06] <BlinkyBill> Oh, she's going to university in our home town :)[05:08:08] <SmokinGrunts> your eldest, before going to college?[05:08:13] <SmokinGrunts> coolio[05:08:20] <SmokinGrunts> congratulations :)[05:08:42] *** mgol <mgol!mgol@gateway/shell/jquery.com/x-dbshkxjypvkjpwcl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[05:08:43] <h66jj655j5> "Don't major in bong mechanics"[05:08:44] <BlinkyBill> :) Yes, we were chuffed that she didn't have to move away. She's a blast to have around.[05:08:53] <SmokinGrunts> lmao[05:09:00] *** Brisk-Branded <Brisk-Branded!~Andrew@165.227.217.42> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-git-876-42939c9 - https://znc.in)[05:09:32] <SmokinGrunts> stay away from TKE frat[05:09:39] <SmokinGrunts> best advice.[05:11:01] <BlinkyBill> No idea. We're in Australia. The whole frat scene really isn't a thing here.[05:11:20] <SmokinGrunts> that's refreshing![05:11:32] *** mgol <mgol!mgol@gateway/shell/jquery.com/x-vlvyhxeumlkdxigl> has joined #angularjs[05:11:40] *** Brisk-Branded <Brisk-Branded!~Andrew@165.227.217.42> has joined #angularjs[05:13:35] <h66jj655j5> is tke crappy?[05:13:48] <h66jj655j5> someone please help me: https://plnkr.co/edit/6YwRh8NQSFWjDUwDFKML?p=catalogue[05:14:43] <BlinkyBill> h66jj655j5, sorry, I didn't realise that was your post. I thought it was SmokinGrunts wanting my do re-write my issue. :D sorry. Will look now.[05:14:48] <h66jj655j5> I'm dying over here.[05:14:53] <h66jj655j5> ah ok, np[05:15:21] <h66jj655j5> I thought I wouldn't need a directive because I'm not manipulating the dom.[05:15:31] *** Maxel <Maxel!~Maxel@206-55-178-125.fttp.usinternet.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:15:42] *** Maxel <Maxel!~Maxel@206-55-178-125.fttp.usinternet.com> has joined #angularjs[05:15:57] <h66jj655j5> We're switching away from another wysiwyg textarea thing, where I had to insert dom node to add a custom button.[05:17:20] <BlinkyBill> what are you trying to do, and what isn't working based on the code you shared?[05:18:57] <h66jj655j5> I want the tinymce component to be populate with html that's in the parent's model, just by it reading some model variable.[05:19:33] <h66jj655j5> It should, since I'm using angular-ui-tinymce.[05:19:59] *** pmercado <pmercado!~pmercado@191.112.232.122> has joined #angularjs[05:20:13] *** Choppa- <Choppa-!~Choppa@2605:f700:c0:1::7ade:79e8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:21:14] <BlinkyBill> If you're trying to pass HTML through a variable, you'll need ... I forget the name, something to tell angular to allow it, else it blocks it. html-raw or something like that.[05:21:33] <h66jj655j5> it consol.log's it fine[05:21:52] *** Choppa <Choppa!~Choppa@2605:f700:c0:1::7ade:79e8> has joined #angularjs[05:22:12] <SmokinGrunts> soz all, I'm kinda drunk now :S[05:22:24] <BlinkyBill> So are you a dad to be?[05:22:33] <SmokinGrunts> I found some photos of an old ex, before the wife got home[05:22:34] <h66jj655j5> The existing angular-ui-tinymce should get the text or html and display it itself, I would think.[05:22:43] <SmokinGrunts> nope! praise spaghetti-monstah[05:23:20] <SmokinGrunts> https://imgur.com/a/HNrmO[05:23:45] <SmokinGrunts> the first one be a portrait I painted of her in oils. It was one of two copies[05:23:51] <BlinkyBill> h66jj655j5, this is what I was referring to. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23547936/angularjs-render-html-in-scope-variable-in-view[05:24:11] <SmokinGrunts> I canned that copy you see, cuz of frustrations. I painted a damn-near photorealistic one of her after[05:24:14] <SmokinGrunts> she burned it.[05:24:16] <h66jj655j5> BlinkyBill: thanks, I saw something like that[05:24:20] <SmokinGrunts> I have the first, though.[05:24:41] <SmokinGrunts> c'est la vie.[05:24:46] <BlinkyBill> h66jj655j5, it's the ng-bind-html-unsafe that you need[05:25:12] <h66jj655j5> BlinkyBill: I think the existing compnent deals with that. I'm not displaying anything, just passing it to the component[05:25:32] <BlinkyBill> SmokinGrunts, dude, don't post photos of her in her skivvies online! That will only get you into trouble.[05:25:34] <h66jj655j5> I can manually set it with a javascript call[05:25:48] <h66jj655j5> But I want it to read it from a model variable automatically[05:25:49] <BlinkyBill> Ahh, ok.[05:25:52] <SmokinGrunts> heh, she's long gone, ~ 1.5 yrs ago[05:26:08] <BlinkyBill> as in dead? If she's alive... nope[05:26:18] <SmokinGrunts> naw, she got knocked-up[05:26:26] <SmokinGrunts> dude left her, she kept the kid[05:26:37] <SmokinGrunts> Dawid (in Polski)[05:26:41] <SmokinGrunts> is his name[05:26:54] <SmokinGrunts> anywhoo, life.[05:27:52] <BlinkyBill> h66jj655j5, sorry, I'm still struggling to enderstand what you're trying to do. SmokinGrunts, sober up and see if you have lend a hand with h66jj655j5's problem :P[05:28:15] <SmokinGrunts> okies[05:28:20] <h66jj655j5> angular-ui-tinymce is an angular thingy that wraps the tinymce javascript component[05:28:21] * SmokinGrunts peruses chatlog[05:28:53] <h66jj655j5> I could us js to get and set the value in the tinymce component, it's a wysiwig editor[05:29:10] <SmokinGrunts> what is tinymce?[05:29:21] <h66jj655j5> But ith the angluar-ui-tinymce wrapper, I should be able to just bind it to some model variable, hopefully.[05:29:43] <h66jj655j5> a wysiwig editor. we want customers to be able to write notes with bulleted lists, bold, itelic, formatting stuff[05:29:51] <h66jj655j5> in multiple textareas in our app[05:30:14] <h66jj655j5> like quilljs, but that stores everythign in some json format instead of html[05:30:21] <h66jj655j5> or like ckeditor, but that's not free[05:31:01] <SmokinGrunts> ew so many library authors used bower[05:31:02] <SmokinGrunts> ew[05:31:03] <SmokinGrunts> ew[05:31:04] <SmokinGrunts> eww[05:31:16] <h66jj655j5> there's some newer replacement?[05:31:18] <SmokinGrunts> so what's the prob?[05:31:24] <SmokinGrunts> yeah, proper design[05:31:54] <h66jj655j5> we need something to wrap all client libs into one js file...[05:32:02] <SmokinGrunts> webpack![05:32:02] * BlinkyBill is a fan of bower. Wish it wasn't mothballed.[05:32:09] <h66jj655j5> mm ok[05:32:11] <SmokinGrunts> also, make angular service-wrappers[05:32:16] <h66jj655j5> So I[05:32:22] <BlinkyBill> But yes, webpack is awesome![05:32:38] <h66jj655j5> 'm not sure how to pass the value from the main controller to my controller to the angular-ui-tinymce component[05:33:01] <SmokinGrunts> a service can pass values easy between differing controllers[05:33:08] <SmokinGrunts> just call the service[05:33:25] <SmokinGrunts> hm. Lemme find an example[05:33:28] <h66jj655j5> hmmm[05:33:44] <h66jj655j5> That sounds like it's more convoluted than necessary[05:34:11] <h66jj655j5> Here's how you use the angular-ui-tinymce component: <textarea ng-model="tinymceModel"></textarea>[05:34:26] <h66jj655j5> so that's in my compnent's template[05:35:26] <h66jj655j5> and the tag for my component is used like this: <my-tiny-mce ng-model="myData[id]"></my-tiny-mce>[05:35:38] <h66jj655j5> and i have them in an ng-for, many per page[05:35:59] <SmokinGrunts> here's an Angular Paho-MQTT wrapper I did https://pastebin.com/1tM0uP8a[05:37:14] <SmokinGrunts> here's a super-basic barebones wrapper for PouchDB I did https://pastebin.com/1nbuqTNP[05:37:29] <SmokinGrunts> pretty easy to get the angular bindings on that[05:37:48] <CssNoOb> Anyone here using ngstore angular[05:38:12] <SmokinGrunts> not ATM[05:38:27] <SmokinGrunts> using Redis for local session-store[05:38:44] <SmokinGrunts> then pouchDB to sync with remote CouchDB server[05:40:33] <SmokinGrunts> a really good exercise is learning how to 'modernize' old javascript libs[05:40:43] <SmokinGrunts> I'd suggest the attempt[05:41:07] <SmokinGrunts> most can be done (shoddily) in <15 mins[05:42:11] <SmokinGrunts> if anyone cares about the *why* in why I use redis plus pouch, see my fork of this lib here https://github.com/PhilLaFayette/superlogin[05:42:36] <SmokinGrunts> (I guess that won't elucidate much... hang)[05:43:12] <h66jj655j5> Is there no way to pass the model that's passed into ym component into a component that's in the template of my component?[05:43:17] <h66jj655j5> my*[05:44:00] <SmokinGrunts> here is elucidation to my previous comment https://github.com/colinskow/superlogin/issues/197[05:44:52] <SmokinGrunts> a service or a factory would be my suggestion[05:45:11] <h66jj655j5> How would that allow the child component to bind to the same variable?[05:46:02] <h66jj655j5> I can't modify the child component[05:46:12] <h66jj655j5> I mean not easily.[05:46:28] <SmokinGrunts> @Input and @Output ?[05:46:44] <h66jj655j5> oh snap. how do those work?[05:47:12] <SmokinGrunts> https://angular.io/guide/component-interaction[05:47:23] <SmokinGrunts> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35623868/angular2-two-way-binding-inside-parent-child-component[05:47:28] <h66jj655j5> is that angularjs?[05:47:28] <SmokinGrunts> https://www.themarketingtechnologist.co/building-nested-components-in-angular-2/[05:47:32] <SmokinGrunts> yes[05:47:44] <SmokinGrunts> https://scotch.io/tutorials/3-ways-to-pass-async-data-to-angular-2-child-components[05:47:58] <h66jj655j5> those say angular 2[05:48:10] <SmokinGrunts> which are ye on?[05:48:20] <h66jj655j5> angular 1.5.9[05:48:25] <SmokinGrunts> nice[05:48:47] <SmokinGrunts> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36053146/angular-1-5-nested-component-bind-parent-value[05:49:54] <h66jj655j5> SmokinGrunts: ok, maybe that would work. But the parent is using ng-for to asign different values to ng-model[05:50:07] <SmokinGrunts> ~1.5.X gives a lot more info in the way of "what's goin' on under the hood," which is a large part of the reason why I stay with 1.5.x/1.6.x[05:50:21] <h66jj655j5> I mean the grandparent is using ng-for to give the parent different ng-model values[05:50:29] <CssNoOb> Anyone here using ngstore angular[05:50:33] <h66jj655j5> which the child then needs to bind to[05:51:48] <SmokinGrunts> https://toddmotto.com/exploring-the-angular-1-5-component-method/[05:53:52] <SmokinGrunts> hmm. need more info[05:56:45] <SmokinGrunts> https://velesin.io/2016/05/18/communication-between-angular-1-5-components/[05:57:07] <SmokinGrunts> and https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36645065/component-communication-in-angular-1-5[06:03:34] *** LennardW <LennardW!~LennardW@ip503cfcfb.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:04:07] *** LennardW|afk <LennardW|afk!~LennardW@ip503cfcfb.speed.planet.nl> has joined #angularjs[06:04:20] *** LennardW|afk is now known as LennardW[06:08:50] *** hndk <hndk!~hndk@186.182.88.102> has joined #angularjs[06:08:58] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@pa49-183-88-68.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[06:10:38] *** led_ir23 <led_ir23!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #angularjs[06:10:52] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[06:10:52] *** led_ir23 is now known as led_ir22[06:17:12] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@89.165.136.2> has joined #angularjs[06:21:09] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@pa49-183-88-68.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #angularjs[06:21:51] *** myoung|ruck|bbl is now known as myoung|ruck[06:22:01] *** myoung|ruck is now known as myoung|ruck|off[06:26:12] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has joined #angularjs[06:27:11] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@89.165.136.2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:36:49] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@42-2-252-018.static.netvigator.com> has joined #angularjs[06:41:23] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@42-2-252-018.static.netvigator.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:42:15] *** tarator <tarator!~Thunderbi@84-113-5-52.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #angularjs[06:46:56] *** h66jj655j5 <h66jj655j5!d1d2b814@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.210.184.20> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[06:49:00] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has quit IRC (Quit: led_ir22)[06:49:31] *** jtimon <jtimon!~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:50:53] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@93-82-95-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #angularjs[06:51:43] *** tarator <tarator!~Thunderbi@84-113-5-52.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Quit: tarator)[07:03:51] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@pa49-183-88-68.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[07:04:49] *** rr33rrewerw <rr33rrewerw!d1d2b814@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.210.184.20> has joined #angularjs[07:04:57] *** upinspace <upinspace!~upinspace@174-081-018-235.dhcp.chtrptr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:05:33] <rr33rrewerw> if bindings are set in this before onInit runs, why are they undefined in my controller, except for ngModel not being undefined?[07:13:49] *** max_at <max_at!~max_at@aftr-88-217-181-218.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #angularjs[07:13:49] *** max_at <max_at!~max_at@aftr-88-217-181-218.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[07:13:49] *** max_at <max_at!~max_at@unaffiliated/max-at/x-2708233> has joined #angularjs[07:18:04] *** hndk <hndk!~hndk@186.182.88.102> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:18:38] *** Brisk-Branded <Brisk-Branded!~Andrew@165.227.217.42> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-git-876-42939c9 - https://znc.in)[07:19:52] *** Brisk-Branded <Brisk-Branded!~Andrew@165.227.217.42> has joined #angularjs[07:32:35] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@93-82-95-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:33:22] *** led2 <led2!Thunderbir@nat/ibm/x-zvrpqktovzwpcckw> has joined #angularjs[07:35:49] *** led2 <led2!Thunderbir@nat/ibm/x-zvrpqktovzwpcckw> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:41:17] *** fairuz <fairuz!~textual@unaffiliated/fairuz> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I can type them with my intl/dead-keys keyboard settings, so one might wind up in a comment, but other than that, no[10:15:49] *** soee <soee!~soee@user-46-113-38-254.play-internet.pl> has joined #angularjs[10:16:53] <E1arcis> icebox: I am[10:16:58] <E1arcis> icebox: using Iosevka[10:17:42] <icebox> E1arcis: better than Fira?[10:18:06] <E1arcis> icebox: I find Fira too round and aerated, Iosevka is more compact to my liking :P[10:19:56] *** akkonrad <akkonrad!~konrad@gae109.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[10:20:12] <icebox> E1arcis: which flavour?[10:20:41] <icebox> E1arcis: ss03?[10:20:44] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@42-2-252-018.static.netvigator.com> has joined #angularjs[10:20:55] *** tarnus <tarnus!~tarnus@2602:306:bcff:2b00:98a6:b8e8:333b:365c> has joined #angularjs[10:21:47] <E1arcis> icebox: uh, lemme check[10:23:18] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@42-2-252-018.static.netvigator.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:23:24] <E1arcis> icebox: I think it was the default flavor[10:23:48] <icebox> E1arcis: sure... there are twenty default flavors :)[10:24:50] <E1arcis> icebox: well, the very first download in the list :P[10:25:11] *** tarnus <tarnus!~tarnus@2602:306:bcff:2b00:98a6:b8e8:333b:365c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[10:25:12] *** SmokinGrunts <SmokinGrunts!~SmokinGru@162-226-245-243.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:25:13] <icebox> E1arcis: ok thanks[10:26:02] <E1arcis> icebox: oh, there was a recent update![10:26:09] <SargoDarya> o/[10:26:37] *** toin0u|away is now known as toin0u[10:27:33] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya[10:27:40] <SargoDarya> How's it going folks?[10:28:31] <E1arcis> SargoDarya: pretty fine today![10:28:36] *** E1arcis is now known as Elarcis[10:28:39] <SargoDarya> Sounds great :D[10:29:08] <icebox> SargoDarya: hey[10:29:16] <SargoDarya> icebox: ho :P[10:29:35] *** nivag <nivag!~gavin@121.99.202.67> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:29:55] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@42-2-252-018.static.netvigator.com> has joined #angularjs[10:37:01] *** omid <omid!1f2f253a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.47.37.58> has joined #angularjs[10:38:02] *** omid <omid!1f2f253a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.47.37.58> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:43:19] *** lalitmee <lalitmee!~lalitmee@49.207.63.161> has joined #angularjs[10:43:23] *** lalitmee <lalitmee!~lalitmee@49.207.63.161> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[10:44:23] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@c49-177-218-235.chirn3.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #angularjs[10:45:11] *** lalitmee <lalitmee!~lalitmee@49.207.63.161> has joined #angularjs[10:45:29] *** lalitmee <lalitmee!~lalitmee@49.207.63.161> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[10:46:45] *** lalitmee <lalitmee!~lalitmee@49.207.63.161> has joined #angularjs[10:47:26] <lalitmee> hello guys[10:48:14] <lalitmee> I want to use Angular 4 with backend of Laravel. I want to implement SEO for my website. is there any solution?[10:48:59] <Pyrrhus666> lalitmee, angular universal could fit : https://universal.angular.io/[10:49:48] <lalitmee> Pyrrhus666: I am looking at it, but it is saying that backend should be nodejs[10:49:50] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I think that link is old... now ssr is "built-in" since angular 4[10:49:57] *** jhadvig <jhadvig!~jhadvig@78-141-120-86.dynamic.orange.sk> has joined #angularjs[10:50:09] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, is it ? I thought the stuff looked old :)[10:50:22] <icebox> lalitmee: https://medium.com/burak-tasci/angular-4-with-server-side-rendering-aka-angular-universal-f6c228ded8b0[10:50:23] <Pyrrhus666> sorry lalitmee, forget universal[10:51:07] <Pyrrhus666> so this then, I guess ? https://angular.io/guide/universal[10:51:22] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:51:25] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... that is correct :)[10:51:40] <Pyrrhus666> they should remove the old stuff...[10:51:43] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has joined #angularjs[10:51:53] <lalitmee> Pyrrhus666: okk let me have a look at the article. I will tell you.[10:52:16] <icebox> lalitmee: two articles and the guide... :) https://medium.com/@hamedbaatour/angular-5-server-side-rendering-with-firebase-step-by-step-guide-ec5f4d8ef38b[10:52:33] *** one_zero <one_zero!~one_zero@ip68-96-100-24.lv.lv.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:52:50] <lalitmee> icebox: thank you so much[10:53:20] *** nemec is now known as nemec_[10:53:25] *** nemec_ is now known as nemec[10:53:50] *** nfk <nfk!~nfk@unaffiliated/nfk> has joined #angularjs[10:55:39] *** rr33rrewerw <rr33rrewerw!d1d2b814@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.210.184.20> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:56:03] *** Zames <Zames!~Mutter@42-2-252-018.static.netvigator.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[10:57:34] <icebox> lalitmee: anyway ssr / seo / (integration with laravel backend - even if angular is backend agnostic) are advanced topics... I hope it is not your first ride with angular or frontend realm :)[10:58:06] <icebox> because there are many parts involved and the configuration may be overhelming[10:58:09] <max_at> hello[10:58:12] <icebox> max_at: hey[10:58:37] *** donguston <donguston!~AdamPC@cpc139184-sprt3-2-0-cust175.17-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #angularjs[10:59:48] <max_at> There is a quite sophisticated seed for universal.. https://github.com/ng-seed/universal .. what do you think of it?[11:00:50] <max_at> Starting a new side project next week which should be a full fletched PWA .. that seed looks like a good starting point[11:00:53] <icebox> max_at: well... it may be a good starting point... just to see how it works...[11:00:56] *** nemec <nemec!~lounge-us@82-128-252-188.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io)[11:01:13] *** nemec <nemec!~Nemec@82-128-252-188.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #angularjs[11:01:45] <icebox> anyway it is really a task if you need to customize any of those parts involved[11:02:09] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, for my taste, it bundles way too much stuff. but ymmv.[11:02:35] <icebox> max_at: generally speaking, pwa is the frontier, but it is another paradigm[11:03:18] <max_at> Pyrrhus666: "bundles to much" .. you mean it brings to many features out of the box, or are you talking about dist files[11:03:33] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, feature wise[11:03:35] <max_at> icebox: I agree, something I want to deep into[11:04:21] <Pyrrhus666> also : pwa´s are overrated, imho. my colleague does it with react, the differences on initial load are almost imperceptible to me.[11:05:40] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: well... the selling point of a pwa configuration should be the "offline" feature[11:06:14] <max_at> Pyrrhus666: I don't see to many unused features, if you think of building server side rendered pages. I tend to agree that you need to really investigate to check if it is worth the effort building server side rendered things, or if you are able to cache it otherwise elegantly with less overhead. google is happy with any millisecond that you serve faster for initial page load.[11:06:21] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, ah yes, true.[11:06:30] <Elarcis> max_at: "dive into"[11:06:36] <Elarcis> max_at: "or get dipped into"[11:06:44] <Elarcis> max_at: :P[11:06:49] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, I don´t give a flying f*ck what google thinks :P[11:06:55] <max_at> Elarcis: welcome back :P[11:07:11] <max_at> Pyrrhus666: haha.. competitors are happy[11:07:32] <Pyrrhus666> google also wants to compress your images so much they look like modern art[11:08:20] <max_at> Well, most of the stuff I worked with already for years now, new is Universal and offline behaviour[11:08:41] *** nemec <nemec!~Nemec@82-128-252-188.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io)[11:09:01] *** nemec <nemec!~Nemec@82-128-252-188.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #angularjs[11:09:26] <max_at> Hehe .. true, you need to use fancy things like panda compressor or what ever any new new compression tools are being named like .. to lose another half percent in size "lossless"[11:09:38] <Pyrrhus666> if you want to play, sure. in most real-world scenarios it won´t matter and just make you dev-cycle that much more difficult.[11:09:40] *** nemec <nemec!~Nemec@82-128-252-188.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:10:16] *** nemec <nemec!~Nemec@82-128-252-188.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #angularjs[11:10:32] <Pyrrhus666> you might get 100 score on google page speed though. woohoo ! :P[11:12:19] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed... don't forget customers want 4MB fonts :)[11:12:40] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, haha, yes :)[11:12:53] *** lazyfingers <lazyfingers!~textual@balticom-206-90.balticom.lv> has joined #angularjs[11:13:43] <Pyrrhus666> btw : the demo for that seed (http://ng-seed.fulls1z3.com/) gives me an annoying reflow once loaded. a side effect of universal ?[11:15:19] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: animation?[11:15:33] <Pyrrhus666> no, a full redraw[11:15:54] <Pyrrhus666> oh you mean as the cause ? could be. it´s highly annoying.[11:16:08] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hmm... I don't see it with netowrk tabs opened[11:16:15] <icebox> *network tab[11:16:28] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, disable cache ?[11:16:41] <icebox> it is th default :)[11:16:58] *** jakutis <jakutis!~jakutis@78-58-149-106.static.zebra.lt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:17:05] <Pyrrhus666> good :) I still see the redraw though[11:17:10] *** jakutis <jakutis!~jakutis@78-58-149-106.static.zebra.lt> has joined #angularjs[11:17:40] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: is it the same effect you see when you change tab?[11:17:55] *** Snugglebash <Snugglebash!~textual@80.168.21.194> has joined #angularjs[11:18:16] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: ah ok... you mean that sort of resizing at the end of the animation[11:18:27] *** toin0u is now known as toin0u|away[11:18:52] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, no. first, I see the page as it is in its finished state (while still loading). then as loading finishes, a redraw occurs and the animation kicks in[11:19:01] <Pyrrhus666> both FF and chrome[11:19:49] <Pyrrhus666> and edge[11:19:59] *** AtumT <AtumT!~IRC@177.206.150.122.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #angularjs[11:21:30] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I think it is due to the (wrong) animation[11:21:45] <lalitmee> icebox and Pyrrhus666: please have a look at this. https://github.com/angular/universal/issues/281[11:21:47] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, could be. it´s annoying.[11:21:55] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed[11:23:08] <max_at> Yes, annoying.[11:23:16] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I profiled it with "Performance"... rendered in 4.5 sec... then start the animation, at 5.5 sec, grey page and reflow[11:23:32] <lalitmee> icebox and Pyrrhus666: I think universal can support PHP backend but some modifications are required.[11:24:09] <Pyrrhus666> lalitmee, no clue, I don´t do universal.[11:24:11] <icebox> lalitmee: that repo is outdated... ssr issues are filled directly in angular repo (since angular 4)[11:24:42] <icebox> lalitmee: no sorry... I am wrong[11:25:17] <icebox> lalitmee: indeed that issue is relevant... nice catch[11:25:52] *** lazyfingers <lazyfingers!~textual@balticom-206-90.balticom.lv> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[11:26:26] <icebox> lalitmee: personally I have zero experience with that approach[11:29:49] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@89.165.136.2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:36:17] <lalitmee> icebox: yeah.. I think I have to look more into this.[11:37:11] <Pyrrhus666> lalitmee, if you only worry about google, you can probably forget universal. google crawls angular sites just fine, afaik.[11:37:23] *** nivag <nivag!~gavin@121.99.202.67> has joined #angularjs[11:37:28] *** lazyfingers <lazyfingers!~textual@balticom-206-90.balticom.lv> has joined #angularjs[11:39:51] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@89.165.136.2> has joined #angularjs[11:42:40] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: that performance tool is incredible... basically there are 318ms of grey page, from domcontentload and load event, due to loading a polyfill and a bundle app... at some point the app calls "setNative" and the style is recalculated, new paint and so on... maybe it is due how the app is packaged in webpack[11:43:13] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, your detective skills are impressive ;)[11:43:40] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: thanks... but kudos to devtools :)[11:44:17] *** lazyfingers <lazyfingers!~textual@balticom-206-90.balticom.lv> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…)[13:38:28] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: that’s not weird, just a question of sleep cycle[13:41:03] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: that is cheating, fetishes are always weird for anybody who hasn’t them, that’s like the second most caracteristic feature :P[13:41:53] <icebox> back[13:42:04] *** LennardW <LennardW!~LennardW@ip503cfcfb.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:42:18] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, is it ? I find a lot of fetishes to be not my thing, but not weird at all...[13:43:05] <SargoDarya> "My hamster just died..." "Would now be the right time to ask for sex?"[13:43:12] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I said the second one, geez[13:43:49] <SargoDarya> "Dude..." "So I take that as a yes?"[13:43:52] *** LennardW|afk <LennardW|afk!~LennardW@ip503cfcfb.speed.planet.nl> has joined #angularjs[13:43:55] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, you also said ¨fetishes are always weird for anybody who hasn’t them¨[13:44:05] *** LennardW|afk is now known as LennardW[13:44:08] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: dunno, the feets thing is pretty weird to me, right besides cars :P[13:44:11] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, not my thing, but go ahead ;)[13:45:04] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, cars are just fleshlights to some, I guess ;)[13:47:42] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: less than brake lights AMIRITE[13:47:58] <max_at> Hm .. my karma chrome headless does not catch the browser anymore .. feels like my mac needs a restart .. how awful[13:48:17] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, or blinkers :P[13:49:20] <max_at> .. up 67 days, 20 hours, 05 minutes .. well he deserves it[13:49:34] *** daN-R-G <daN-R-G!~daN-R-G@ip-109-40-3-90.web.vodafone.de> has joined #angularjs[13:49:59] <Pyrrhus666> uptime dicksize wars ? is that still a thing ? :P[13:50:13] <max_at> haha .. it's not .. I just hate restarting.[13:52:04] <max_at> uptime and IRC fits together ;-) same age[13:55:48] <Pyrrhus666> reminds me of https://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04/12/missing_novell_server_discovered_after/[13:56:24] <Elarcis> my windows boots up in a matter of seconds, so I don’t care about uptime[13:57:04] <max_at> Mac does too ;) still i hate it[13:58:00] <max_at> Elarcis: reminds me of old times optimizing autoexec.bat and system.ini to save some seconds in boot time ..[13:58:05] <Elarcis> max_at: probably a mac thing :P[13:58:32] <max_at> Probably :P[13:59:41] <max_at> No restart required .. rm -rf node_modules yarn.lock && yarn was enough. Some hickup through branch hopping between the old seed ng4 and cli ng5[14:05:07] <max_at> Puh, seems I successfully suspended the fetish discussion .. SargoDarya, Elarcis, Pyrrhus666[14:05:10] *** Maxel <Maxel!~Maxel@50-241-60-125-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #angularjs[14:05:43] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, you managed to exhibit your mac-fetish very well though :P[14:05:58] <SargoDarya> max_at: You're coming too late :P[14:06:22] *** Maxel <Maxel!~Maxel@50-241-60-125-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[14:06:43] *** Maxel <Maxel!~Maxel@50-241-60-125-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #angularjs[14:06:49] <Elarcis> HURR DURR, "COMING"[14:07:07] <max_at> He said "coming" .. both said "COMING"[14:08:16] <max_at> Fun fact, I was a mac basher until I came to that company where they said "hey, we all use mac, it's a bit like linux, try it" .. and the success story started. besides they're ridiculous to expensive, they just work.[14:08:57] *** ceterizine <ceterizine!~ceterizin@c-73-38-254-221.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:09:11] <SargoDarya> ^[14:09:25] <Pyrrhus666> seen from a terminal it´s freebsd´s retarded cousin ;)[14:09:32] *** lf94 <lf94!~lf94@mtrlpq4806w-lp130-02-70-29-175-99.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #angularjs[14:10:00] <Pyrrhus666> also : I use linux, bsd and windows, and to me they all ´just work´.[14:12:36] <Elarcis> seen from any sane perspective it’s overpriced average stuff that is an even worse ecological nightmare than regular computers.[14:12:39] <SargoDarya> I've had windows laptops fail after 2 years. Then I bought a MacBook Pro, never looked back. It's stable, works, the default CoreAudio drivers are much better suited for audio production work, no crazy battery sucking etc.[14:12:57] <SargoDarya> Had my old one for 5+ years and now my girlfriend uses it.[14:13:17] <Pyrrhus666> ymmv. my thinkpad is nearing 4 years without fail...[14:13:23] <SargoDarya> Just had to once replace the screen due to me being retarded and dropping a 30kg metal plate onto it.[14:13:44] <SargoDarya> The screen was bent and it was still working properly but they replaced it without problems.[14:14:57] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: plus SSD is an easy operation for a quick perf gain on old laptops :P[14:15:57] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:16:17] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has joined #angularjs[14:18:18] *** toin0u is now known as toin0u|away[14:19:19] *** KamenBlackRX <KamenBlackRX!~KamenBlac@186.248.165.170> has joined #angularjs[14:20:49] <icebox> here sony vaio series z (2010) and counting :)[14:20:55] <KamenBlackRX> Hi guys[14:21:19] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, yup. it also supercharged my (now 6 year old) desktop :)[14:21:23] <Elarcis> KamenBlackRX: Hello![14:24:00] *** amcorreia <amcorreia!~amcorreia@201.22.235.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br> has joined #angularjs[14:24:48] <Elarcis> icebox: I really want to buy that book about Bulma :D[14:25:34] <icebox> nice[14:27:16] *** MortimerCat <MortimerCat!~Thunderbi@host86-150-10-71.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has joined #angularjs[14:27:57] *** MortimerCat <MortimerCat!~Thunderbi@host86-150-10-71.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:28:44] <icebox> Elarcis: do you mean this one? https://jgthms.com/css-in-44-minutes-ebook[14:29:42] *** lalitmee <lalitmee!~lalitmee@49.207.63.161> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:31:26] *** KamenBlackRX <KamenBlackRX!~KamenBlac@186.248.165.170> has left #angularjs ("Leaving")[14:32:38] *** \du <\du!~xava\du@din-194-247-145-212.ipcom.comunitel.net> has joined #angularjs[14:32:38] *** \du <\du!~xava\du@din-194-247-145-212.ipcom.comunitel.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[14:32:38] *** \du <\du!~xava\du@unaffiliated/xava> has joined #angularjs[14:34:19] *** cgfbee <cgfbee!~bot@oc1.itim-cj.ro> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[14:38:32] <Elarcis> icebox: no, this one https://bleedingedgepress.com/creating-interfaces-bulma/[14:38:40] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:38:59] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has joined #angularjs[14:39:53] <icebox> ah yes[14:40:19] <Elarcis> icebox: have you read both?[14:40:40] <icebox> Elarcis: no... 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cloud, big data, security, privacy... the concerns about privacy are terrible[15:05:30] <Elarcis> icebox, Pyrrhus666: interesting link![15:06:21] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, agreed. that´s why I tend to use fake data on the internet as much as possible.[15:08:27] *** SmokinGrunts <SmokinGrunts!~SmokinGru@162-235-246-104.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net> has joined #angularjs[15:08:39] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@93-82-95-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:08:56] *** fadavi <fadavi!~Thunderbi@151.247.147.80> has joined #angularjs[15:09:29] *** mrBen2k2k2k <mrBen2k2k2k!~logstash@54.175.144.121> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:09:31] *** led1 <led1!Thunderbir@nat/ibm/x-whicetqcdhxfhyfj> has joined #angularjs[15:10:03] *** mrBen2k2k2k_ <mrBen2k2k2k_!~logstash@52.90.128.212> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:10:04] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@93-82-95-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #angularjs[15:10:28] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: I am starting to agree with you totally :P[15:11:35] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, it´s a losing strategy unfortunately... as more and more official stuff is done online, I need to use real data more often...[15:11:57] *** edrocks <edrocks!~ed@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has joined #angularjs[15:13:01] *** myoung|ruck|off is now known as myoung|ruck[15:13:03] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: the point is all the legal stuff is not ready to manage the future scenarios... in May there is GDPR, but still[15:13:59] *** jazper- <jazper-!~jazper-@75-134-42-205.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #angularjs[15:13:59] *** jazper- <jazper-!~jazper-@75-134-42-205.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[15:13:59] *** jazper- <jazper-!~jazper-@pdpc/supporter/active/jazper> has joined #angularjs[15:14:41] *** re1 <re1!~reiser@2001:44c8:44ca:3d89:a5ca:c0c8:b036:5320> has joined #angularjs[15:15:04] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, gdpr is already active, just not enforced yet. and generally, nobody seems to care.[15:15:05] *** re1 <re1!~reiser@2001:44c8:44ca:3d89:a5ca:c0c8:b036:5320> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[15:15:36] *** re1 <re1!~reiser@2001:44c8:44ca:3d89:a5ca:c0c8:b036:5320> has joined #angularjs[15:15:39] *** re1 <re1!~reiser@2001:44c8:44ca:3d89:a5ca:c0c8:b036:5320> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:15:44] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: "nobody seems to care", exactly... terrible[15:16:27] *** Z3R0 <Z3R0!~mischief@cpe-24-55-15-236.austin.res.rr.com> has joined #angularjs[15:17:20] *** Z3R0 <Z3R0!~mischief@cpe-24-55-15-236.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:17:58] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@93-82-95-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:18:34] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@static.190.4.47.78.clients.your-server.de> has joined #angularjs[15:21:21] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@static.190.4.47.78.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:21:25] <max_at> Elarcis: why Bulma instead of ngx-bootstrap 4 for example?[15:22:17] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:22:40] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has joined #angularjs[15:23:49] *** jsightler_afk is now known as jsightler[15:24:15] <max_at> https://bulma.io/alternative-to-bootstrap/[15:24:37] *** Eduard_Munteanu <Eduard_Munteanu!~Eduard_Mu@188.27.82.197> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:27:31] <icebox> max_at: there it is explained quite well the vision difference[15:27:53] <max_at> yep[15:29:07] <ray02> it's nice[15:29:53] <Pyrrhus666> admittedly the flexbox thing is no longer relevant since bs4 is also flexbox based. bs4 also has a lot of new helpers. bulma is still nice though, if a bit niche[15:30:02] *** nemec <nemec!~Nemec@82-128-252-188.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[15:32:04] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: the main selling point is only-css-no-js[15:33:49] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I know. which is cool, but naturally limits the set of default components (as they themselves state correctly)[15:34:00] *** fadavi <fadavi!~Thunderbi@151.247.147.80> has quit IRC (Quit: fadavi)[15:34:02] *** punknroll <punknroll!~Thunderbi@p83-219-165-60.snwdip.snw.at> has quit IRC (Quit: punknroll)[15:34:04] <icebox> yep[15:34:34] <Pyrrhus666> I like the is- and has- syntax[15:35:32] <icebox> I suppose bulma is more oriented to basic static sites or to style the components... bootstrap is a baseline for more advanced static sites, becaus it includes a few built-in behaviours[15:36:18] *** MortimerCat <MortimerCat!~Thunderbi@host86-150-10-71.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has joined #angularjs[15:36:53] <Elarcis> max_at: bootstrap is more restrictive, + I don’t like relying on such high-level premade components, because more often than not, the slightest need for a custom behavior becomes a true pain to implement.[15:37:47] <max_at> Elarcis: I agree .. alltough I do not want to reinvent the wheel ;-)[15:38:04] <Elarcis> max_at: plus, Bulma has absolutely no JS, which means you’re free of having the logic you want behind it and not being limited to a stupidly designed modal/tooltip system.[15:39:03] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:39:23] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has joined #angularjs[15:39:25] <Elarcis> max_at: you know what I say? The wheel is the hello world of technology, be glad it’s the only thing you got to reinvent.[15:39:33] *** MortimerCat <MortimerCat!~Thunderbi@host86-150-10-71.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:40:09] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, it´s all academic, once you work with it, we all know you´ll hate it anyway :P[15:41:06] <max_at> ;-)[15:41:25] *** led1 <led1!Thunderbir@nat/ibm/x-whicetqcdhxfhyfj> has quit IRC (Quit: led1)[15:41:46] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@93-82-95-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #angularjs[15:43:09] *** \du <\du!~xava\du@unaffiliated/xava> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[15:43:42] *** wafflejock <wafflejock!~wafflejoc@c-73-208-188-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[15:44:27] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: peh[15:47:15] *** kneeki <kneeki!~kneeki@c-76-28-253-109.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #angularjs[15:48:46] *** MortimerCat <MortimerCat!~Thunderbi@host86-150-10-71.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has joined #angularjs[15:50:29] *** statefulBloke <statefulBloke!~rianalouw@host-88-217-175-9.customer.m-online.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:50:38] *** Rigle <Rigle!5fa1bd3e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.161.189.62> has joined #angularjs[15:51:05] <Rigle> Hello In my app i am include roles and permissions. All permissions of user i get in 'login' query, and then where store this for accessible everywhere in the app. Where the best practices for store this data about user? I see example with 'localStorage', but i think it is not secure.[15:52:11] *** dopesong_ <dopesong_!~dopesong@212-183-118-109.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #angularjs[15:52:55] <icebox> Rigle: hey[15:53:12] <icebox> Rigle: do you think your question is related to angular(js)?[15:54:57] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@93-82-95-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:55:07] <icebox> Rigle: generally speaking, frontend is not secure... so don't save any sensible data on this layer[15:55:15] *** statefulBloke <statefulBloke!~rianalouw@host-88-217-175-9.customer.m-online.net> has joined #angularjs[15:56:07] <icebox> Rigle: credentials, permissions and roles are validated on server side[15:56:43] <Rigle> in server side all secure and validate[15:56:53] <icebox> cool[15:57:39] <Rigle> as i understand all permission i can store where easy and conveniently for me yes ?[15:57:40] *** soee <soee!~soee@user-46-113-38-254.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:57:47] *** wafflejock <wafflejock!~wafflejoc@c-73-208-188-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[15:57:49] <icebox> yes[15:59:17] <Rigle> ок, thanks[16:01:06] <icebox> Rigle: the question you need to answer is the following one: what if I copy that sensible data in another pc and I use them in the app... does it work? yes, bad solution... no, go ahead[16:02:18] *** Z3R0 <Z3R0!~mischief@24.27.227.128> has joined #angularjs[16:02:20] *** MortimerCat <MortimerCat!~Thunderbi@host86-150-10-71.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: MortimerCat)[16:08:08] *** Tazmain <Tazmain!~Tazmain@196.35.34.5> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:15:19] <Elarcis> Rigle: create a UserPermissions service.[16:15:43] <Elarcis> Rigle: localStorage is as secure as anything else: it depends on how you use it[16:17:09] <Elarcis> icebox: does that count if that data has an expiration date so that the time it takes to copy it to another machine, it’s already obsolete? :P[16:17:59] <Pyrrhus666> so your users need to login every 5 seconds ? cool :)[16:18:38] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: No, they need to press a red button every two seconds, if they don’t their account gets removed and a team of mercenaries is dispatch at their last known location.[16:18:48] <Pyrrhus666> haha :)[16:18:49] <Elarcis> *dispatched[16:19:51] <Pyrrhus666> can we make that button R&S´s famous ´history eraser button´ ? that was also big and red, and I like the side-effect it has ;)[16:22:21] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I don’t know enough of Ren & Stimpy to know about that button :P[16:22:38] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, it does what it says on the label :P[16:22:49] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: and the side effect?[16:23:37] <Pyrrhus666> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx_fKg2Cn48[16:23:47] <Pyrrhus666> well, erasing history of course[16:26:12] <icebox> Elarcis: like in Lost[16:27:47] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has joined #angularjs[16:29:54] *** micabot <micabot!~mica@unaffiliated/mica> has joined #angularjs[16:31:08] *** mistralol <mistralol!~mistralol@2a02:8010:613a:0:ba27:ebff:fe59:b195> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:32:14] *** d10n-work <d10n-work!uid37161@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oyddrokiikrktclq> has joined #angularjs[16:34:04] *** lf94 <lf94!~lf94@mtrlpq4806w-lp130-02-70-29-175-99.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:34:27] *** led_ir22 <led_ir22!~Thunderbi@hotspot10.rywasoft.net> has joined #angularjs[16:35:31] <Pyrrhus666> OT, geometry : https://marckhoury.github.io/counterintuitive-properties-of-high-dimensional-space/[16:35:38] *** mack_ooo__ <mack_ooo__!~mack@2.236.101.114> has joined #angularjs[16:38:07] *** plutoniix <plutoniix!~q@node-6ax.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net> has joined #angularjs[16:38:31] *** mack_ooo_ <mack_ooo_!~mack@2.236.101.114> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:38:44] *** plutoniix <plutoniix!~q@node-6ax.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[16:39:34] *** plutoniix <plutoniix!~q@node-6ax.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net> has joined #angularjs[16:40:32] *** stateful1loke <stateful1loke!~rianalouw@host-88-217-175-9.customer.m-online.net> has joined #angularjs[16:40:33] *** mack_ooo__ <mack_ooo__!~mack@2.236.101.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:40:59] *** mack_ooo__ <mack_ooo__!~mack@2.236.101.114> has joined #angularjs[16:42:23] *** wafflejock <wafflejock!~wafflejoc@12.106.136.114> has joined #angularjs[16:43:05] *** statefulBloke <statefulBloke!~rianalouw@host-88-217-175-9.customer.m-online.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:43:43] *** mack_ooo__ <mack_ooo__!~mack@2.236.101.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:43:48] <icebox> nice link :)[16:44:20] <Pyrrhus666> esp. the first one felt completely alien...[16:45:07] <icebox> very interesting the comments about machine learning[16:45:42] <SargoDarya> Wow, interesting thing, Apparently, IE11 supports Map.[16:45:50] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, indeed :)[16:46:05] <SargoDarya> Unless you're on Windows 8 in which case it's not supported.[16:47:06] <icebox> SargoDarya: here windows 8... IE11 11.0.9600.18861... and there is Map[16:47:37] <SargoDarya> icebox: Check https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/scripting/javascript/reference/map-object-javascript[16:47:42] <icebox> winver... 6.3 build 9600[16:47:45] <SargoDarya> Last sentence in Requirements[16:48:22] *** pmercado <pmercado!~pmercado@191.112.232.122> has joined #angularjs[16:49:53] <icebox> off in a few minutes... bye[16:50:02] <Pyrrhus666> later icebox[16:50:21] *** fixl_ <fixl_!fixl@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/fixl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[16:52:12] *** dopesong_ <dopesong_!~dopesong@212-183-118-109.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:53:31] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@185.156.175.131> has joined #angularjs[16:54:32] *** dopesong_ <dopesong_!~dopesong@212-183-118-109.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #angularjs[16:55:28] *** PeDr0_HuG02 <PeDr0_HuG02!~kvirc@201.150.52.177> has joined #angularjs[16:56:35] *** Pyrrhus666 <Pyrrhus666!~Pyrrhus66@157.97.112.115> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:57:57] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@185.156.175.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:58:11] *** akkonrad <akkonrad!~konrad@gae109.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #angularjs[16:59:42] *** cbit <cbit!~davcri@109.232.61.196> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:00:05] *** icebox <icebox!05591d15@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.89.29.21> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:01:14] *** stateful1loke <stateful1loke!~rianalouw@host-88-217-175-9.customer.m-online.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[17:02:27] *** pmercado <pmercado!~pmercado@191.112.232.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:05:27] *** tkore\work <tkore\work!~tkore@unaffiliated/ardethian> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:10:05] *** max_at <max_at!~max_at@unaffiliated/max-at/x-2708233> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:10:08] *** Babalel <Babalel!c5f55172@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.197.245.81.114> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:10:41] *** max_at <max_at!~max_at@217.111.93.34> has joined #angularjs[17:10:41] *** max_at <max_at!~max_at@217.111.93.34> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:10:41] *** max_at <max_at!~max_at@unaffiliated/max-at/x-2708233> has joined #angularjs[17:12:09] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@89.165.136.2> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:12:36] *** jlebrech <jlebrech!~jlebrech@89.165.136.2> has joined #angularjs[17:12:41] *** al-damiri <al-damiri!uid142631@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qvolsimajaybpsct> has joined #angularjs[17:15:17] *** max_at <max_at!~max_at@unaffiliated/max-at/x-2708233> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:15:49] *** MortimerCat <MortimerCat!~Thunderbi@host86-150-10-71.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has joined #angularjs[17:19:34] *** tarator <tarator!~Thunderbi@84-113-5-52.cable.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #angularjs[17:19:41] *** percY- <percY-!~percY@138.68.7.139> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[17:21:58] *** percY- <percY-!~percY@138.68.7.139> has joined #angularjs[17:25:29] *** Sna4x8 <Sna4x8!~avejidah@45-19-138-50.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #angularjs[17:29:38] *** toin0u|away is now known as toin0u[17:31:50] *** akkonrad <akkonrad!~konrad@gae109.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[17:35:49] *** alxy <alxy!uid115853@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-twyxasgpjpzjybmi> has joined #angularjs[17:36:26] *** Triangular <Triangular!tri@109.255.147.174> has joined #angularjs[17:38:00] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:38:33] *** star_prone <star_prone!~sviatovig@81.89.12.66> has joined #angularjs[17:38:42] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:38:57] *** jhadvig <jhadvig!~jhadvig@78-141-120-86.dynamic.orange.sk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:39:06] *** Elarcis <Elarcis!~Elarcis@webdefence-pool-02.cluster-d.forcepoint.net> has joined #angularjs[17:39:44] *** edrocks <edrocks!~ed@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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I have a plunkr http://plnkr.co/edit/3S4nfRx4emMfbTuP8Ax0?p=preview with a sidebar mockup. menuItems are displayed via user.roles. On clicking 'Auth' the console shows the proper returned menuItems, but the view doesn't update... I feel like I'm missing something simple.. 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Using rxjs in a service?[21:52:14] <BlinkyBill> HeartMeeple, parent to child, or child to parent?[21:52:39] *** edrocks <edrocks!~ed@66-194-206-178.static.twtelecom.net> has joined #angularjs[21:53:40] *** re1_ <re1_!~reiser@node-wf2.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:55:40] *** dopesong <dopesong!~dopesong@212-183-118-109.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #angularjs[21:55:53] <BlinkyBill> https://angular.io/guide/component-interaction[21:56:03] <BlinkyBill> ^ may help[22:00:16] *** pLaTo0n <pLaTo0n!~pLaTo0n@unaffiliated/platoon> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:02:10] *** JBreit <JBreit!~JBreit@2601:985:300:f422::5362> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:02:30] *** re1 <re1!~reiser@node-wf2.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net> has joined #angularjs[22:03:07] *** re1 <re1!~reiser@node-wf2.pool-118-173.dynamic.totbb.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:08:25] *** KermitoniT <KermitoniT!~Kermitoni@c49-177-218-235.chirn3.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[22:11:18] *** marliana <marliana!~marliana@cpe-45-37-163-187.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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