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[03:17:59] <blah-> bonjour
[03:18:11] <blah-> monsieur
[03:18:17] <blah-> oui et vous ?
[03:18:23] <blah-> ca à été
[03:18:25] <blah-> d'accord.
[03:18:43] <blah-> So
[03:18:49] <blah-> ah yes
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[07:04:38] <kneeki> Anyone have success setting a select with optgroups after using ng-options? My ng-options snippet generates the select options and optgroups without any problems, but the value isn't getting set like it is for my elements that don't have optgroups
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[08:11:54] <icebox> hey folks
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[08:55:17] <SargoDarya> Morning folks o/
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[09:03:46] <icebox> SargoDarya: hey
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[09:05:17] <Elarcis> Yoo
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[09:14:31] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
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[09:17:00] <Elarcis> icebox: had a great week-end?
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[09:17:43] <icebox> normal :)
[09:18:16] <Elarcis> icebox: as long as it wasn’t bad
[09:19:26] <icebox> :P
[09:21:09] <Pyrrhus666> morning icebox Elarcis #angularjs
[09:21:16] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hey
[09:22:58] <Elarcis> Hello, Pyrrhus666
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[09:28:34] <icebox> just read... :P
[09:28:44] <Pyrrhus666> funny stuff ;)
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[09:30:30] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: Well, someone fucked uop
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[09:31:29] <Pyrrhus666> the military did when they let civilians use the GPS system ;)
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[09:36:11] <icebox> the end
[09:36:26] <Pyrrhus666> nice. although lots of the 3rd party stuff is already suffering bit-rot and abandonment
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[09:41:43] <icebox> OT: atom vs. vscode - 43.095 vs. 43.052 github stars... ready to overtake :)
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[09:51:07] <Pyrrhus666> and rightly so ;)
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[09:51:22] <icebox> totally agreed
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[09:57:56] <Elarcis> icebox: wasn’t VSCode the most starred project already?
[09:58:06] <Elarcis> icebox: or was it the most contributed to, or something
[09:58:06] <icebox> Elarcis: no... almost
[09:58:26] <icebox> Elarcis: contributors
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[09:58:39] <Elarcis> icebox: aaah
[09:58:48] <ray02> hello hello
[09:58:52] <icebox> 399 vs. 498
[09:58:53] <ray02> morning channel :)
[09:58:55] <icebox> ray02: hey
[09:59:55] <Elarcis> icebox: it already gained 3 stars since your message, lol
[10:00:06] <icebox> yep :)
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[10:01:10] <ray02> what are your set up for VScode?
[10:01:26] <ray02> do you have some sexy plugin to suggest?
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[10:01:46] <icebox> ray02: I installed only eslint
[10:02:11] <ray02> ok
[10:02:15] <Tazmain> Hi all, with angularjs-ui , for a boostrap modal, is there a way to make it almost full screen? Setting the size to lg is still rather small
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[10:03:20] <Pyrrhus666> Tazmain, you could hack it with css, but generally modals are not supposed to be full screen, so there´s no provision for it.
[10:04:10] <Tazmain> Pyrrhus666, well I don't want it full screen, but larger than it currently is, otherwise I need to use a partial screen ?
[10:04:47] <icebox> Tazmain: play with windowClass and windowTopClass props
[10:04:54] <Elarcis> ray02: Typescript Hero, Git Lens, Markdown All-in-One, Version Lens, Partial Diff and npm intellisense.
[10:05:11] <icebox> Tazmain: or debug the size prop when it is used
[10:05:29] <Pyrrhus666> Tazmain, just hack the css for the large class, I guess ? should be easy enough.
[10:06:08] <Elarcis> ray02: also a healthy dose of custom preferences to disable drag and drop, enfore my coding style, compact the code and square-ify the minimap.
[10:06:56] <icebox> Tazmain: I don't use that widget... so use devtools to understand it :)
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[10:08:36] <Pyrrhus666> Tazmain, .modal-lg { width: 90%!important; } should get you up and running. use whatever width you want.
[10:08:42] <Elarcis> ray02: yes, but unless you have the perfect project setup that falls into what the extension can handle, I found it to be easier just to use the integrated chrome devtools.
[10:08:51] <Tazmain> Pyrrhus666, will try that thank you
[10:09:26] <Elarcis> ray02: no cumbersome configuration, no weird issues hooking to the browser, no unpredictable breakpoints-not-breaking cases.
[10:09:36] <ray02> Elarcis yeah for me either, but i was thinking it was my fault
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[10:12:34] <zomg> oh wow just ran into one of the no semicolons edge cases and it was a real WTF
[10:12:57] <zomg> I'm sorry but whoever thinks not using semis in JS is the right way is suffering from stockholm syndrome
[10:13:19] <zomg> this.x = function() { lol() } \n\n(foo || bar).call();
[10:13:25] <zomg> guess where the problem is in that...
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[10:15:13] <Tazmain> Guys with the modals, ideally they should have their own controllers? or can it use the same controller as the one that opened it (in other words one controller for the page, and that same controller is used for the modal) ?
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[10:16:54] <icebox> zomg: resulting in an iife :)
[10:16:59] <Pyrrhus666> Tazmain, for me, that depends on the functionality of the modal. if it´s a simple confirmation for example, I use no extra contoller. if it´s a more involved thing like a complicated selection dialog, I might.
[10:17:30] <Tazmain> Pyrrhus666, so if you need to select things from a list to another list
[10:17:36] <icebox> zomg: nice catch... but no linters?
[10:18:04] <Tazmain> Are there any implications of using the same controller? I saw one guy had an issue because he did that, the one text box with ng-model created its own scope for that variable
[10:18:46] <icebox> Tazmain: one view, one controller is the mantra... so the best practice should be using a controller for the modal dialog
[10:18:59] <Elarcis> zomg: it tries to do (foo || bar).call() first?
[10:19:11] <icebox> Tazmain: unless, as Pyrrhus666 said, is a yes-no dialog
[10:19:15] <Pyrrhus666> Tazmain, you might consider making the selection thing a component and host that in the modal, simply returning the selection when closed.
[10:19:23] <Tazmain> icebox, I figured that was better to do, it seems cleaner as well.
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[10:38:15] <zomg> Elarcis: it becomes an iife like icebox said
[10:38:20] <zomg> I was like wtf is wrong with this
[10:38:23] <zomg> randomly added a ; after }
[10:38:26] <zomg> and then that fixed it..
[10:38:27] <zomg> ugh
[10:38:43] <zomg> I always add ; after function expressions in cases like that, just had missed it this time
[10:39:30] <zomg> so effectively it tried to do (function() { lol() })(foo || bar).call()
[10:39:32] <SargoDarya> Hey Elarcis, how's it going mate?
[10:39:40] <zomg> which obviously failed because the function didn't return anything callable :P
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[10:44:32] <SuperTyp> hi all
[10:45:08] <Pyrrhus666> morning SuperTyp
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[10:46:01] <icebox> SuperTyp: hey
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[10:46:57] <SuperTyp> how was your weekend brothas
[10:48:00] <icebox> resting
[10:49:32] <Pyrrhus666> did a day of IFFR, saw five 2-hour films. my back hurt after that, but was fun :)
[10:50:11] <icebox> :P
[10:51:16] <SargoDarya> Morning SuperTyp
[10:51:45] <SuperTyp> nice Pyrrhus666 =D
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[10:53:06] <SuperTyp> OT*
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[10:56:03] <Pyrrhus666> SuperTyp, funny :)
[10:57:02] <SuperTyp> the next us president candidate will better explain things with whoppers =D
[10:58:36] <icebox> SuperTyp: too late for strava... just talked :)
[10:59:00] <SuperTyp> I don't understand :D
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[11:06:59] <zomg> I'm still not sure what blockchain is useful for in practice
[11:07:08] <zomg> Other than to generate money out of nowhere
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[11:07:36] <Pyrrhus666> zomg, a shared registry of transactions, afaik.
[11:07:50] <zomg> Most blockchain based things that are getting some use are solutions which don't inherently require blockchain, and the chain itself tends to be private
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[11:08:14] <Elarcis> zomg: decentralized system to ensure data’s authenticity and immutability
[11:08:18] <Elarcis> zomg: "ensure"
[11:08:27] <Pyrrhus666> if it´s private it´s pretty useless yes
[11:08:33] <zomg> so if it doesn't first off require blockchain means it uses further resources just to support the non-useful parts of the tech
[11:09:02] <zomg> and if it's not a decentralized anyone can participate in blockchain then it also seems like it doesn't really need blockchain or the benefits of it are fairly dubious
[11:09:33] <zomg> I can sort of see it having use in something like banking, but apparently competing systems are already being deployed with better performance..
[11:09:35] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: or if it’s private but peer-to-peer for some reason.
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[11:09:57] <Elarcis> zomg: the blockchain is slow by purpose, is what irks me.
[11:10:22] <Elarcis> zomg: you have people BY DESIGN deciding to make the whole process more complicated in order to improve reliability
[11:10:41] <zomg> which is really only required if it's public-facing I think
[11:11:40] <Elarcis> zomg: it irks me to no end to know that in a century where energy is expensive and pollution is a major concern, that someones thinks a system whose power consumption is deliberatelly increasing exponentially is a good idea.
[11:11:46] <J3089TE> I want to print '...' at the end of a piece of text when it is too long. Is it possible for me to piple the value of a var to a function before printing out e.g.g {{property | formattex }} ?
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[11:12:16] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, if at all possible, do it with css.
[11:12:25] <Elarcis> zomg: if it has a small computing fleet, the computing can be easier, the overall block production speed must remain constant.
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[11:12:42] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, text-overflow: ellipsis;
[11:12:55] <Elarcis> J3089TE: ^ to combine with white-space: nowrap.
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[11:14:47] <J3089TE> thanks
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[11:18:52] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: unless it’s a "read more" example where the element must have a fixed number of words, possibly including html
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[11:19:23] <SuperTyp> yes
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[11:19:37] <SuperTyp> good hint
[11:19:46] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: although these days websites tend to show the article with a white blending
[11:19:49] <Elarcis> easier to hack
[11:19:54] <Elarcis> :P
[11:20:31] <Elarcis> "To read the rest, please subscribe! — Nah, I’m just going to remove the nag’s element in my devtools, thanks."
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[11:21:18] <Pyrrhus666> I used to do that. now I just go somewhere else and ignore that site forever ;)
[11:21:49] <SuperTyp> yes same here
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[11:23:43] <Elarcis> OT: in git, is there a way to have all modified files since a given commit be marked as changed in the index, so that I can review them all before the merge in develop?
[11:24:18] <Elarcis> something like an interactive git log?
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[11:33:19] <icebox> Elarcis: I think so
[11:33:57] <icebox> Elarcis: git diff --name-only SHA1 SHA2
[11:36:41] <icebox> Elarcis: To see the diff between the current state and a certain commit: git diff SHA
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[11:41:32] <Elarcis> icebox: I ended up doing a merge into a new branch derived from develop, and when done I’ll merge it back into my feature branch, so that people doing the review will have less trouble
[11:41:45] <icebox> perfect
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[12:04:43] <Tazmain> So IE 11 does not support promises but I know what if you use $http it does function like a promise with .then. Is there a way I can make my own one using angularjs?
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[12:07:17] <Pyrrhus666> Tazmain, just use a polyfill for promises
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[12:09:29] <Tazmain> then I need the async polyfil as well for IE don't I ?
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[12:10:50] <Tazmain> For now I am trying to use $q
[12:11:21] <Pyrrhus666> Tazmain, could be, it´s been a while since I manually configured polyfills. angular has easy settings for IE11 compat.
[12:11:41] <Tazmain> it does ?
[12:11:48] <Tazmain> Well we are like badly behind
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[12:14:58] <Pyrrhus666> angular has pre-defined polyfills for IE11 in polyfill.ts (which are off by default)
[12:15:19] <Tazmain> oh on angularjs
[12:15:41] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, that kinda sucks ;)
[12:16:33] <Tazmain> haha why no solution there ?
[12:17:31] <Pyrrhus666> no idea. last I used angularjs it was all $q ;)_
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[12:27:31] <CalimeroTeknik> hello, is it okay to copy the prototype and all the members of a promise to an empty object? the reason is reference shenanigans.
[12:27:52] <CalimeroTeknik> will said empty object behave as the promise itself?
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[12:38:38] <Elarcis> Tazmain: I suspect AngularJS doesn’t really use promises, but its own implementation, therefore you don’t need a Promise polyfill.
[12:39:00] <Tazmain> Elarcis, yeah that's why I am using $q
[12:39:05] <Elarcis> Tazmain: unless of course, you already tried it and it asks for a Promise constructor, in which case I’m wrong.
[12:39:19] <Elarcis> Tazmain: Oh, you mean you’re not using AngularJS?
[12:39:26] <Elarcis> Tazmain: definitely use a polyfill then.
[12:39:37] <Tazmain> Elarcis, I am using Angularjs
[12:39:43] <Elarcis> Tazmain: then no problem
[12:39:52] <Tazmain> using that
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[12:40:20] <Elarcis> Tazmain: perfect, it’s the way to go
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[12:43:32] <Elarcis> Why didn’t I think of throw-away branches before? It’s so useful and clean.
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[12:48:45] <Snugglebash> hello chaps quick Q ng4: i have a text input which i use as a search box, the search creates a dropdown. the user selects an item from the dropdown, i need to store a reference to this item for latest use and also put a field of this item in the search box to replace the search string... I thought maybe use ngModel on the input and create a var in the component, but i dont want the selected reference to change if they decide to search again
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[12:51:29] <SuperTyp> deep copy the selected reference then
[12:53:40] <Snugglebash> so store 2 references?
[12:53:58] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: Have your search bar disguised: the list of selected item is not really in your ngModel, it’s just a component next to your search bar and disguised to look like it’s in it
[12:54:20] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: so that whenever the user presses "backspace" or anything with an empty searchbar, just remove the last selected item reference
[12:55:23] <SuperTyp> why not just holding a second variable of the last selected item?
[12:56:00] <SuperTyp> if ngModel changes it doesn't get changed and you can change it if the user selects an option
[12:56:54] <Snugglebash> Elarcis: so just change the value of the input when user selects an item?
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[12:57:03] <Tazmain> hmmm I am wondering if I should rather use a partial over a modal
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[13:21:09] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: the input only contains text that has not been "converted" to a selected item
[13:22:25] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: when the user selects an item in the dropdown, add it to the list shown on the left of your input, and empty the input’s value
[13:22:52] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: use CSS to disguise the input and selected items as a single text bar.
[13:24:23] <Elarcis> Snugglebash: that’s what Github, Gitlab and many others do
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[13:32:50] <icebox> back
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[13:35:05] <Tazmain> icebox, does using a partial vs modal fall under style guide ?
[13:35:52] <icebox> Tazmain: always use partial... it is behind the component rationale :)
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[13:36:12] <icebox> Tazmain: modal is evil for ux
[13:36:34] <Tazmain> so partial is better ?
[13:36:40] <Tazmain> but there is no ui-router here
[13:36:42] <icebox> Tazmain: yes, it is
[13:36:52] <icebox> Tazmain: use always ui router :)
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[13:37:13] <Tazmain> This project has no ui-router in
[13:37:25] <icebox> Tazmain: so have you only one view?
[13:38:03] <Tazmain> there are many, its used with MVC
[13:38:07] <Tazmain> from C#
[13:38:21] <Tazmain> that returns pages , or use angular to call a tempurl
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[13:46:38] <icebox> Tazmain: don't use angularjs and use jquery :)
[13:46:53] <icebox> Tazmain: or backbone.js :)
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[13:47:15] <icebox> angularjs is for SPA, not for a request/reply architecture
[13:47:34] <Tazmain> icebox, I know -__- but its here , what can I do ? Can't rewrite the whole UI
[13:48:09] <Tazmain> there is even on page that uses a Razor form, then has angular do the validation and then call the submit on the razor form
[13:48:42] <icebox> Tazmain: what a mess
[13:48:49] <Tazmain> yup
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[13:54:07] <Snugglebash> Elarcis: alright then i will give that a shot. thank you
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[14:12:37] <asifs> hi
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[14:13:38] <asifs> ON apache server my rouiting is not working
[14:13:53] <asifs> home page appears but not other routed pages
[14:16:29] <icebox> asifs: app routing is not related with your web server or with web routing
[14:17:13] <icebox> asifs: basically it is an angular(js) question :)
[14:17:22] <icebox> *it is not
[14:17:57] <icebox> asifs: why do you say on apache server? did you try with another web server and the app works?
[14:18:11] <SargoDarya> icebox: Well, kinda. You at first have to redirect everything to your index.html page ;)
[14:18:36] <icebox> SargoDarya: yep... but there is always a bit of confusion between "routing" and "routing" :)
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[14:18:45] <icebox> SargoDarya: same words, different worlds
[14:18:56] <SargoDarya> Yea. Totally.
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[14:19:40] <icebox> I agree it is a bit pendantic, but that question means also the issue has not been narrowed enough
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[14:28:57] <asifs> i run ng buid and sent a dist folder to DevOps to deploy on QA server
[14:29:24] <asifs> after devployment home is working but other pages are not working
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[14:29:36] <asifs> page not found on server
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[14:30:13] <asifs> when try to go other page
[14:30:31] <icebox> asifs: I am sorry but it doesn't mean anything... are you saying locally it works correctly?
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[14:31:30] <asifs> yes
[14:31:42] <asifs> locally it is working fine
[14:32:17] <asifs> I just dist folder for deployment, right?
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[14:32:44] <icebox> asifs: no idea... that depends on your app
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[14:33:08] <icebox> asifs: example of one url not working?
[14:33:18] <asifs> we just need dist folder right?
[14:33:31] <icebox> asifs: dist folder? that depends on the app :)
[14:33:32] <asifs> for deployment on other server
[14:33:53] <icebox> asifs: no idea what is your workflow... you can have a dist folder, three folders, whatever
[14:34:15] <icebox> asifs: if you are afraid missing something check devtools
[14:34:25] <asifs> I have just 2 page
[14:34:30] <asifs> no backend
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[14:35:02] <icebox> asifs: and?
[14:35:22] <asifs> calling remot api for data
[14:35:34] <icebox> asifs: no light bulb here... check with devtools
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[14:36:44] <asifs> Can u should let me know whether jsut dist folder is neededfor my app to work on other server
[14:37:59] <asifs> the deploument server is .com
[14:39:21] <Pyrrhus666> that´s an expensive one...
[14:40:54] <icebox> asifs: are you sure you know what you are asking for?
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[14:41:43] <icebox> asifs: I don't think so... so, please, take your time to investigate your issue
[14:42:21] <icebox> asifs: or, please, rephrase the question
[14:42:46] <icebox> and generally speaking, the answer is always "yes, you can"
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[14:47:00] <E1arcis> OT: What’s really interesting though, is that now that bitcoin and other cryptos have efficiently turned computing power into valuable resources, we got a new kind of hacking where the goal is not to steal data, but CPU time.
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[14:49:32] <Pyrrhus666> it´s not really different from botnets for DDOS or hacked ftp servers to exchange dodgy software, although there the focus was (is) on network capacity instead of CPU cycles
[14:50:29] <Pyrrhus666> resources like bandwidth, disk space and cpu cycles are commodities now.
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[14:51:05] <E1arcis> Pyrrhus666: I agree for now, but something tells me that they are becoming more and more valuable.
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[14:51:43] <Pyrrhus666> E1arcis, true, but that doesn´t really counter my point ;)
[14:52:15] <Pyrrhus666> it does mean people will expend more effort to get these resources for the lowest price (free)
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[14:53:11] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: doesn’t really make a point, people always expend efforts to get cheaper resources
[14:53:16] <Elarcis> :P
[14:53:26] <asifs> after 'ng buid' '/' route working but not '/details' any idea ?
[14:54:07] <Elarcis> asifs: best bet: you did something wrong
[14:54:13] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, sure, but my somewhat understated point was that this is nothing new ;)
[14:54:39] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: true in that it’s somewhat understated :P
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[14:55:18] <Pyrrhus666> I thought mentioning hijacked ftp-servers might be enough. we did that 20 years ago ;)
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[14:56:50] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: nia nia nia
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[14:58:10] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, :P
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[14:59:02] <Pyrrhus666> maybe part of the answer is that the electricity spent mining is now worth more than the coins mined. so in effect they´re stealing power.
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[15:00:32] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: well, it’s not worth more if they get to be paid for their computation
[15:01:14] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, only if they steal the power
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[15:02:01] <Pyrrhus666> if they had to pay that themselves, mining wouldn´t be cost-effective anymore.
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[15:02:47] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: not sure what you say is true
[15:03:22] <Pyrrhus666> it´s an assumption, not sure myself. I´ve seen it debated though.
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[15:04:29] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: iirc, miners get paid by transactions they validate, which means the more power you have, the more prob. you have to validate a transaction, which means you get paid more, then you split the money between users of a same mining gorup
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[15:05:36] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, so to earn more, you need to use more power, true. but is it still profitable >
[15:05:40] <Pyrrhus666> ? I mean
[15:05:50] <icebox> I don't think so
[15:06:15] <icebox> I think the break event was a few years ago
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[15:07:00] <icebox> indeed there are not anymore dedicated mining machine
[15:07:25] <Pyrrhus666> well, maybe asics can still do it. but my generic pc, not so much I think.
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[15:13:13] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: not so much at all
[15:14:25] <Elarcis> bitcoin currently consumes as much power as Irak.
[15:14:36] <Elarcis> How ludicrous is that.
[15:15:21] <Elarcis> And the more computers there are, the more the difficulty has te be increased to keep a constant production, the more power it consumes, the more computers it needs to be profitable.
[15:15:29] <Elarcis> Find the crack.
[15:16:41] <Elarcis> "to the alternative traditional centralized systems that we are predominantly using today and that one day crypto might replace."
[15:16:45] <Elarcis> aka none :P
[15:17:13] <Pyrrhus666> that chance exists, true. hence ´might´ :P
[15:19:30] <Elarcis> all I’m reading is "well it consumes less than other means, plus soon™ it’ll consume less per transaction because duh duh duh bitcoin is independant"
[15:20:35] <Elarcis> Well see you next year when the consumption has been squared-or-so per design
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[15:21:06] <icebox> :P
[15:21:25] <Elarcis> (plus, bitcoin requires the whole banking system to be of any value. It is not a separate set, it is currently a superset of the global banking system, it is bound to consume more since its only current quality is its value in dollars)
[15:21:53] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, funny, istr that _I_ was the one using the power consumption as an argument :)
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[15:22:49] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: no, you were using the argument that power is more expensive than the value it brings
[15:22:56] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: which I still disagree with
[15:23:18] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, but now that seems to be exactly _your_ point ;)
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[15:23:40] <Pyrrhus666> I mean, more power than the whole of Irak...
[15:23:43] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: no… my point is that whether or not it costs money, it’s too big a consumption
[15:24:10] <Pyrrhus666> meh. power is money, unless you steal it.
[15:24:17] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: money doesn’t account reliably for the environmental impact. bitcoin is mainly mined in china, thus coal.
[15:24:44] <Pyrrhus666> that´s a whole new point though...
[15:25:07] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, it´s not that cold here :P
[15:25:19] <icebox> atom vs. vscode :)
[15:25:26] <Pyrrhus666> haha :)
[15:25:46] <Elarcis> <Elarcis> zomg: it irks me to no end to know that in a century where energy is expensive and pollution is a major concern, that someones thinks a system whose power consumption is deliberatelly increasing exponentially is a good idea.
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[15:26:02] <Elarcis> I meant "expensive" as in "consequence-heavy"
[15:26:15] <Elarcis> sorry for the vague term
[15:26:53] <icebox> Elarcis: "energy" or "entropy" point of view
[15:26:58] <Elarcis> icebox: heh
[15:27:07] <Pyrrhus666> ah, ok. that explains a bit. from when is that quote ? can´t remember reading that
[15:27:31] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: this morning
[15:27:45] <Pyrrhus666> ok, must´ve missed it.
[15:28:36] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: bitcoin retribution for mining is not homogeneous. The cell who got the block gets the money. That’s what makes it profitable, but overall, you’re right that most people don’t earn money
[15:28:49] <Elarcis> (or so I think)
[15:29:01] <Elarcis> the point is to be part of the cell who gets the block
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[15:30:27] <icebox> OT: bye bye Google LunarX Prize
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[15:40:21] <Elarcis> icebox: like git pages for actual go projects?
[15:40:31] <Elarcis> *github pages
[15:40:48] <icebox> Elarcis: no... to host a git server in your company
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[15:41:45] <Elarcis> icebox: oh, like Gitlab then :P
[15:41:58] <icebox> yep
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[15:55:37] <Elarcis> Controversial move of the week: uuid().split('-')[0]
[15:57:57] <icebox> :)
[15:58:07] <icebox> controversial or opinionated?
[16:00:08] <Elarcis> these are not mutually exclusive :P
[16:00:43] <icebox> :P
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[16:01:13] <icebox> asifs: resolved?
[16:01:20] <icebox> asifs: investigated?
[16:01:32] <Pyrrhus666> isn´t the first bit of an uuid the least unique one ?
[16:01:53] <Pyrrhus666> (bit as in part of the string, duh)
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[16:02:49] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: it’s the time-based one, so I hope not
[16:03:45] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: actually it depends on the context. the other bits are mainly related to the MAC address, so there are high chances of collision inside of the same computer.
[16:03:49] <Pyrrhus666> in version one, the first 48 bits are the MAC address, no ?
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[16:04:43] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: well if I generate multiples very fast (at least with a JS implementation of v1), it’s the first part that changes every time
[16:04:58] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: like, they are always at least incremented by one
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[16:06:07] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, strange. that sounds reverse from what I thought. as the wikipedia entry states : Version 1 concatenates the 48-bit MAC address of the "node" with a 60-bit timestamp,
[16:06:19] <Pyrrhus666> oh well :)
[16:06:40] <icebox> popcorn? :)
[16:06:43] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: the title of the wikipedia section says otherwise :P
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[16:07:06] <odigem> Hi
[16:07:07] <Pyrrhus666> haha yes :)
[16:07:20] <icebox> odigem: hey
[16:08:14] <asifs> @icebox.. not resolved yet
[16:08:19] <odigem> who can say me how split template to small parts? maybe some include or what need use? i use angular 5 now
[16:08:21] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, RFC4122 corroborates your story ;) also : searching that rfc on ddg gives you a rondom uuid
[16:08:53] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: yeah, the uuid feature is cool :P
[16:09:17] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: (as long as no more than 163 billion users generate uuid on the same second, on the same DDG server)
[16:09:29] <icebox> odigem: use components
[16:09:31] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: (I think we’re ok)
[16:09:38] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, didn´t know it was also triggered by ´rfc4122´ as a search though ;)
[16:10:04] <odigem> icebox: split one components to small components?
[16:10:09] <Elarcis> odigem: use modular, small components with a single responsibility and inputs-outputs to communicate with their parent.
[16:10:19] <icebox> asifs: recap... locally it (the routing) works and when you deploy, it doesn't work... correct?
[16:10:23] <Pyrrhus666> hmmm... ¨rfc 4122¨ (with space)
[16:10:25] <icebox> odigem: yep
[16:10:29] <Elarcis> odigem: if your component is too big, there are great chances parts of it are actually reusable features
[16:10:45] <Elarcis> odigem: and a reusable feature deserves its own component :P
[16:11:09] <odigem> Elarcis: but how i must use routing then?
[16:12:01] <odigem> Elarcis: or you mean import small components to one big?
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[16:12:16] <odigem> stop
[16:12:28] <odigem> i think its not for my situation
[16:13:44] <SuperTyp> does anyone know a WYSIWYG Editor that produces markdown?
[16:14:36] <icebox> SuperTyp: yep
[16:14:41] <Elarcis> odigem: you’re always going to need smaller components, it already is for your situation
[16:14:55] <SuperTyp> icebox: can you link me?
[16:15:43] <Elarcis> odigem: it’s the main concept between Angular, it’s like having doors on a car
[16:16:39] <icebox> no components, no party
[16:16:49] <icebox> what else?
[16:17:30] <odigem> Elarcis: you have any examples?
[16:18:02] <SuperTyp> icebox I mean you input html and get markdown as output =/
[16:18:06] <asifs> @icebox. Correct..
[16:18:23] <asifs> recap... locally it (the routing) works and when you deploy, it doesn't work... correct?
[16:18:25] <asifs> yes
[16:18:30] <icebox> SuperTyp: sorry? :)
[16:19:17] <asifs> routing not working after deploy
[16:19:17] <icebox> asifs: which web server do you use locally? the ng serve command?
[16:19:39] <asifs> http-server
[16:19:57] <asifs> I run http-server in dist folder
[16:20:02] <icebox> SuperTyp: so you need an html-markdown converter, not an editor :)
[16:20:18] <odigem> Elarcis: how import html from other component? O.o
[16:21:00] <icebox> asifs: ok.. and when you investigated the deployed app, what is the code error? not found, 404?
[16:21:13] <asifs> yes
[16:21:17] <icebox> asifs: perfect
[16:21:25] <asifs> home is working
[16:21:29] <asifs> but not other page
[16:21:40] <asifs> like /detail
[16:21:44] <odigem> Elarcis: its not doc about include template
[16:21:48] <Elarcis> odigem: part 4 is interesting as well
[16:21:51] <icebox> asifs: the local web server and the live one don't have the same document root
[16:21:57] <Elarcis> odigem: use components, do not include templates
[16:21:58] <icebox> asifs: double check it
[16:22:12] <odigem> Elarcis: yes i use
[16:22:31] <Elarcis> odigem: then all is fine, I don’t see what your issue is
[16:22:36] <odigem> but how take component template and put in this component temlate?
[16:22:52] <odigem> need import or what?
[16:22:53] <Elarcis> odigem: you don’t, you just invoke the component.
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[16:23:10] <Elarcis> odigem: components are literrally bricks of reusable HTML
[16:23:12] <asifs> sorry did'nt get
[16:23:15] <SuperTyp> thx icebox a combo would have been nice though =)
[16:23:16] <Elarcis> *literally
[16:23:36] <odigem> what i need put in template where i want include other template from component xxx?
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[16:24:28] <Elarcis> odigem: <xxx></xxx>
[16:24:40] <odigem> just component name? O.o
[16:24:46] <icebox> asifs: when you configure a web server, you need to set the document root, the main folder containing the app... of course they are different
[16:24:51] <Elarcis> odigem: you should really take an hour to follow the official tutorial
[16:25:05] <Elarcis> odigem: I feel like you’re missing the point of the framework you’re using
[16:25:11] <odigem> need reread right
[16:25:11] <icebox> asifs: or there is some rewriting rule in the live web server overwriting your app routing
[16:25:26] <asifs> ok
[16:25:38] <Elarcis> odigem: it is fairly well explained, don’t just read it, follow it
[16:25:46] <asifs> What should I ask devOps team then to do from their side
[16:25:52] <Elarcis> odigem: (if that’s what you meant)
[16:26:34] <asifs> they are using apache server
[16:27:01] <asifs> I just sent them dist folder
[16:27:36] <icebox> asifs: you should replicate the live environment on your local box
[16:27:52] <icebox> asifs: and you should find a compatible configuration
[16:27:54] <asifs> they deployed and the home page is working fine but other page is shoowing 404 not found on server
[16:28:10] <asifs> ok
[16:28:22] <icebox> asifs: it is in charge of you to find the correct steps to deploy the app
[16:28:35] <asifs> ok
[16:29:42] <icebox> asifs: you may ask to devops if they can help you to configure locally the live setup, just to replicate the issue and to fix it
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[16:30:33] <asifs> is this correct
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[16:31:06] <icebox> asifs: no idea... why?
[16:31:35] <icebox> asifs: you said it works locally :)
[16:32:12] <icebox> asifs: if the app works locally, it is only matter of the configuration... why have you any concern about the app?
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[16:37:53] <icebox> off... bye
[16:38:13] <Pyrrhus666> later icebox
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[16:39:25] <Pyrrhus666> asifs, if you don´t follow that, you´ll get 404s
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[16:50:21] <Pyrrhus666> off in a bit, later folks
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[16:58:28] <J3089TE> is there a way to make sure my web app works in a certain browser?
[16:58:42] <J3089TE> How do you test your app in different browser? Do you do it manually?
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[17:01:30] <hhf> helloo do i have this correct route resolver data should not be shared among child routes?
[17:02:06] <Elarcis> hhf: I think it is
[17:02:50] <hhf> argh
[17:03:08] <Elarcis> hhf: what is your issue?
[17:03:21] <hhf> well i figured it's a handy way to share data that i need in both routes
[17:03:40] <hhf> but now i see i probably have a mutability issue ie. resolver returns array, something somewhere changes the array
[17:04:37] <Elarcis> hhf: ok, I don’t think the resolver’s result is purely the same (check it though), I meant that the resolver is called for child routes as well.
[17:05:12] <Elarcis> hhf: if it builds an array and returns it, you should be safe
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[17:07:17] <hhf> well it does return an array but not sure wasn't paying attention or didn't realise
[17:07:40] <hhf> now the modifications to the array are pretty hard to handle
[17:08:16] <hhf> hehe i have to say i have completely failed this state thing in angular
[17:08:23] <hhf> probably need some therapy after this project
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[17:08:52] <Elarcis> hhf: hard to wrap your head around indeed
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[17:09:10] <Elarcis> hhf: to ensure an array is not modified, you can use Array.from() to clone it though
[17:09:19] <Elarcis> (won’t isolate its items)
[17:09:38] <hhf> i've refactored it multiple times etc etc, i'm not familiar with ngrx store but i think the greatest advantage to it would be that newbies won't be trying to do it themselves
[17:09:50] <hhf> in lodash there is cloneDeep
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[17:10:08] <hhf> that would solve it but still i get a bad practice vibe from my coding
[17:10:09] <hhf> :-D
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[17:30:36] <odigem> Elarcis: how change variable and run function in child component?
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[17:35:54] <Elarcis> just change the value of the variable you pass to your child component, if it is done right it will refresh itself
[17:36:20] <odigem> i not pass anything
[17:36:39] <Elarcis> odigem: see services, then
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[17:38:14] <Elarcis> odigem: I’m sorry, I don’t have much time to help these days, but see the tutorial about master/detail components… making a component accept inputs makes it easier to refresh it when the input changes
[17:38:16] <odigem> why services?
[17:38:57] <Elarcis> odigem: shares data and behavior between components
[17:39:18] <odigem> its function which run service
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[18:21:38] <odigem> how call function in not related component?
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[19:53:51] <hhf> hmm i'm trying to handle a 403 error with angular http (old http in angular 4) but it doesn't seem to do anything with error => ..
[19:58:38] <bd-> some http errors run the success callback and you need to check res.status
[19:59:07] <hhf> hmm doesn't seem to run either
[20:00:08] <hhf> the same observable has multiple subscriptions and no mapping
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[20:02:31] <bd-> oh maybe you need .catch
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[20:03:33] <hhf> hmm how? :)
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[20:10:27] <hhf> huh strange
[20:10:48] <hhf> so i have two subscriptions to it and if the first one doesn't have error it won't execute error in the other oen
[20:10:59] <hhf> i'm doing something wrong? :D
[20:11:29] <hhf> ok well fine works now
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[22:19:31] <sumyunseal> how to use filter: from template in js
[22:19:56] <sumyunseal> im trying to combine multiple filters but instead of pipes in template in js
[22:21:41] <HeartMeeple> I'm serving my angular application in express and have an API running there. When i visit the main page of the app I can see my app components and I can get data through http from the API. However routing to each page using a URL is broken. URLs show when clicking through the application but when directly typing the URL in I am met with an error. "Error: No default engine was specified and no extension was provided."
[22:21:51] <HeartMeeple> Any ideas why?
[22:22:13] <HeartMeeple> Does angular have its own view engine that I'm not setting somewhere?
[22:22:26] <HeartMeeple> angular -angularjs
[22:24:36] <HeartMeeple> Or is this because I'm not using server-side rendering?
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