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[00:13:50] <wafflejock> HeartMeeple, being a noob to any of the new stuff myself don't really have a strong opinion on that but is there anything template driven forms give you that reactive forms don't? or are they easier to define somehow? if not from reading the docs seems like reactive are more flexible/predictable and easier to test
[00:14:33] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: The thing they give is simple data binding.
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[00:14:58] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: You don't have to interact with a model to use them.
[00:15:45] <wafflejock> yeah I mean only down side I see with mix and match is you have to include both modules and someone coming into the project needs to know/learn how to do it both ways
[00:16:10] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: So for things like a searchbox I can just request the app reroute based on whatever the user had entered when they hit enter.
[00:16:15] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: true
[00:16:50] <HeartMeeple> However if they have done the tour of heroes they will know template forms.
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[00:17:36] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: I don't know how much overhead having both adds to the application either.
[00:18:41] <wafflejock> yeah worth testing that out and see if it makes any noticeable difference I doubt it's that big either mostly would be concerned with the mental overhead of switching between both ways of doing things, but like I said no real experience beyond the basic tour of heros and a little fiddling around
[00:18:42] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: Maybe after I'm more confident with reactive patterns I will convert all of the components. It is just things like login box and search box that use the other kinds of forms.
[00:19:39] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: This is my second angular project and the first one that I have to actually do all the backend stuff.
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[00:21:30] <wafflejock> yeah I have a ton of experience with 1.08-1.6 but only dabbled with the newer things since everything was shifting around so often didn't seem worth making the jump, it seems things are working pretty well now with ng cli out of the box without fiddling with a bunch of things so been exploring again but haven't built anything real with 2+ yet
[00:21:49] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: I think I went down the rabbit hole the other day when you recommended me to look at reactive forms. I have never had to do much functional reactive programming. Most of my experience was in asp.net so it is a whole different bag of fish.
[00:22:11] <wafflejock> ah yeah definitely very different world
[00:22:19] <wafflejock> getting started on some React/Node stuff soon myself so about to mix it up again :)
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[00:26:27] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: There are nice features of angular like encapsulated css in a component. Or server-side rendering. Also the javascript fatigue factor is lower than in react because ng2+ has more all-in-one stuff.
[00:27:58] <wafflejock> yeah I am a fan of everyting+kitchen sink approach of the framework to remove the need to decide what to use for your AJAX calls or what to use for your model and templating/data bindings and what to do about dependency injection
[00:29:09] <wafflejock> in ng1 you didn't get the CSS encapsulation but just used LESS for compiled CSS and it's easy enough to give directives a top level class to "encapsulate" things, server side rendering I have to use a node app that runs chrome --headless to get the ng1 page to preload for crawlers so a lot of that stuff (plus tree shaking and injector per component) are new things
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[00:31:05] <wafflejock> I also like keeping my html as much as possible separate from my JS so JSX doesn't really sit well with me but gotta move with the times and all, think ng2+ has a good future still too but good to diversify, Vue also looks very angulary and is apparently very popular for smaller scale stuff
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[02:58:12] <Chapiosh> Hello
[03:03:12] <Chapiosh> ?
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[03:15:47] <Chapiosh> ¿?
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[08:10:16] <lohfu> if a component doesnt use a template, do the children to the dom node that is the component have access to $ctrl?
[08:11:11] <lohfu> i am trying to create a plunker from the template, but cannot access $ctrl in index.html
[08:11:14] <lohfu> https://plnkr.co/edit/v7emKT0Vece4IGhT5iFn?p=preview
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[08:25:21] <lohfu> does anybody else have trouble saving in plnkr? am i doing something wrong? i keep getting "Save failed: Save failed"
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[09:19:52] <frank__> hi, how can i access globally predefined variables from anywhere in my code?
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[09:20:23] <frank__> i inyect some plain javascript code in a <script> tag in the head of my index.html
[09:20:52] <frank__> what's the proper way to then use that code from elsewhere?
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[09:25:24] <ray02> are you on angular or angular js?
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[09:48:42] <frank__> ray02 im on angularjs
[09:49:33] <frank__> actually im on ionic, which uses angularjs, but i can't find a solution from within that framework
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[10:02:29] <SargoDarya> Helloooooo o/
[10:05:44] <lohfu> frank__: if the script in the tag exposes globals you should have access to them everywhere in your code already
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[10:24:57] <lohfu> ok so i am stilling battling with tool tips. the problem is i want to have another directive on top of tool-tip that is called `introduction-tip`. the introduction tip should only be displayed once. my plan was to use the transcluded content to determine whether the introduction tip has been displayed before.
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[10:25:57] <lohfu> however, the problem arrises because the introduction-tip would like to use the transluding content to determine wheteher it has been shown before, while the tool-tip needs to use the translusion to actually place the content in the dom
[10:27:25] <lohfu> i have tried many different ways of doing this... i created a plnkr with one way i was testin at https://plnkr.co/edit/4b4IWhkVstO36H02HXOL?p=preview
[10:29:12] <frank__> lohfu the problem is ionic then, because it doesn't let me do just window.myvar
[10:29:22] <lohfu> another way of doing it was to set the priority of introduction-tip directive higher than ng-if, and then setting $scope.shown in this directive. however, since this was run before the ng-if, it would get registered as shown even when the ng-if returned false
[10:30:15] <lohfu> frank__: hmmm... i havent used ionic. do you have access to another global object? like `global` in node
[10:31:09] <lohfu> frank__: what if you just try `myvar` without window?
[10:39:09] <frank__> no, ionic uses typescript
[10:40:09] <frank__> i think i can do it with a directive, and then inyect it wherever i want to use it, but afaik you need to define your vars inside the directive, and mine already has a value by that point
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[10:41:16] <frank__> so i don't think i can use that. using window.myVar works in web, but when you deploy as an app to android or ios it breaks
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[10:52:41] <lohfu> frank__: does this help? https://forum.ionicframework.com/t/global-variables-on-ionic-2/45890
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[10:58:55] <frank____> my global variable is defined when the index.html loads as plain javascript, so i dont think what they say in your link is good in my case
[10:59:23] <frank____> im really out of my reach so i could be wrong, i will run some more tests
[10:59:59] <frank____> im surprised theres so little documentation about this anyway
[11:00:12] <frank____> what i want to do is install a tag manager
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[11:06:39] <lohfu> frank____: well globals is an anti pattern, so not surprising there is not much information about themn
[11:06:59] <lohfu> why do you need them? does the script in the script tag not have a module you can import instead?
[11:07:46] <frank____> no, it's about data analytics, functionality to measure what the user does
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[11:08:36] <frank____> the script makes a request to a server, which returns plain js code regarding a specific client with certain configurations
[11:09:03] <lohfu> yes but why cant you import the script instead of including it via a script tag?
[11:09:26] <frank____> not as far as i know but i will look into that
[11:09:44] <frank____> thanks for your help, i have to leave for the next half hour
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[11:16:43] <Elarcis> yo
[11:16:55] <Elarcis> hi SargoDarya, hi ngWalrus
[11:17:01] <SargoDarya> Morning Elarcis
[11:17:10] <ngWalrus> hey ho
[11:17:16] <Elarcis> icebox and pyrrhus aren’t here? wow.
[11:17:29] <ngWalrus> netsplit?
[11:19:03] <Elarcis> there was one?
[11:20:03] <ngWalrus> dunno
[11:20:05] <ngWalrus> lol
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[11:22:03] <lohfu> hello everyone
[11:22:20] <lohfu> anybody know a good solution to my conundrum?
[11:22:30] <Elarcis> lohfu: which one?
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[11:23:04] <lohfu> > ok so i am stilling battling with tool tips. the problem is i want to have another directive on top of tool-tip that is called `introduction-tip`. the introduction tip should only be displayed once. my plan was to use the transcluded content to determine whether the introduction tip has been displayed before.
[11:23:15] <lohfu> > however, the problem arrises because the introduction-tip would like to use the transluding content to determine wheteher it has been shown before, while the tool-tip needs to use the translusion to actually place the content in the dom
[11:23:30] <lohfu> > i have tried many different ways of doing this... i created a plnkr with one way i was testin at https://plnkr.co/edit/4b4IWhkVstO36H02HXOL?p=preview
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[11:24:06] <lohfu> basically i am kind of creating my own ng-if functionality, but need to use transclusion to decide if a directive has been shown before.
[11:25:02] <Elarcis> lohfu: how does transclusion determine that a tooltip was shown before?
[11:25:50] <lohfu> Elarcis: well i want to use the text of the contents returned from transclusion to determine if it has been shown before
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[11:26:46] <lohfu> the most simple way of doing it would be too simply enforce typing an id for each tooltip... but i dont want to enforce that.
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[11:29:15] <Elarcis> lohfu: pfff… honestly not in the mindset to help you, I think you’re way overthinking things
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[11:31:14] <lohfu> sigh
[11:33:48] <lohfu> is there anyway to create a conditionally terminating directive?
[11:34:19] <lohfu> Elarcis: what would be your suggestioon for simplifying my thinking?
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[11:57:10] <SuperTyp> hi al
[11:57:27] <SuperTyp> anyone an idea how to get a File Object out of this? https://github.com/georgipeltekov/ngx-file-drop
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[12:12:57] <greenplanet> Hi guys, Follow App.Care is looking for a Senior Software Engineer. Who likes to work remote , having AngularJs 1+ Years would be a good plus https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/165806/senior-software-engineer-who-likes-to-work-follow-appcare
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[12:16:16] <SuperTyp> solved my problem
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[12:38:11] <SargoDarya> Wow, he joined the left? Or was he kicked?
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[12:40:31] <ray02> who?
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[12:40:47] <SargoDarya> greenplanet
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[12:50:31] <ray02> i think he went out alone
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[12:56:03] <SuperTyp> timeout
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[13:37:12] <SuperTyp> I have a component from a third party lib
[13:37:44] <SuperTyp> I wanted to access the nativeElement in my component, but it doesn't have one...somehow?
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[14:01:14] <max_at> hello SargoDarya, Elarcis, SuperTyp :)
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[14:15:23] <yakari> hi
[14:15:34] <yakari> does someone know if it's possible to have multiple views in a component with angular 5 ?
[14:16:07] <Elarcis> yakari: multiple templates?
[14:16:14] <yakari> yes
[14:16:26] <yakari> i have a PageCompent i need view edit add template
[14:16:49] <yakari> i have a PageComponent i need : view, edit and add templates
[14:16:49] <Elarcis> yakari: and you don’t know the template in advance
[14:17:02] <yakari> i know it with route
[14:17:10] <yakari> each template have a different route
[14:17:24] <Elarcis> wait wait wait. you mean components? templates don’t have routse
[14:17:31] <yakari> but route yes
[14:17:45] <yakari> i have component in which i wouldlike create different "actions"
[14:17:55] <yakari> with a route per "action"
[14:18:10] <Elarcis> yakari: I feel like you’re going for ngFor coupled with ngSwitch.
[14:18:36] <yakari> hum
[14:18:53] <yakari> that seem complicated
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[14:20:38] <Elarcis> yakari: it truly is not
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[14:21:28] <yakari> it's possible to change template of a composant on an action ?
[14:21:41] <yakari> (click, presskey etc)
[14:22:13] <Elarcis> yakari: not the HTML file per se, but you have directives to conditionnally display and hide elements, sure
[14:22:44] <Elarcis> yakari: depending on your use case, the other solution is to ask to someone who worked a lot with dynamic components, but he isn’t here today
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[14:22:54] <yakari> oky
[14:23:03] <yakari> i thinks i will hide/display part of template
[14:23:07] <yakari> that seem a good idea
[14:23:25] <yakari> thanks
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[17:17:10] <kichawa> hi
[17:17:43] <kichawa> what should i use in angular5 instead of ngResource?
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[17:28:32] <Dbugger> Hello everyone. I just stumbled upon this code on an angular project, and I have no frigging idea what it is trying to do... could someone maybe give me an explanation?
[17:28:33] <Dbugger> https://hastebin.com/ulukuvifeh.js
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[17:32:31] <Elarcis> Dbugger: well, with only that info, it gets the result of that calculateDmaageLocationTotal function, but formats it according to the currency filter: currency based on your settings, true for showing the symbol (should be 'symbol' if you plan to upgrade to Angular 5), format the number with min 1 integer digit, min 1 fraction digit, max 2 fraction digit.
[17:32:38] <Elarcis> Dbugger: https://angular.io/api/common/CurrencyPipe
[17:32:45] <Elarcis> Dbugger: https://angular.io/api/common/DecimalPipe
[17:33:20] <Elarcis> Dbugger: is it the kind of answer you expected?
[17:33:35] <Dbugger> Elarcis, wait, let me read it carefully..
[17:34:22] <Dbugger> I guess I have to learn more about "|" and ":" on angular
[17:34:28] <Elarcis> Dbugger: basically if configuration.calculationSettings.currency === 'EUR' it formats "152" into "€152.00"
[17:34:29] <Dbugger> The line is making me dizzy
[17:34:49] <Elarcis> Dbugger: | is the pipe operator, used in templates to filter/map/format values
[17:34:53] <Dbugger> Where do you get "EUR" from?
[17:35:10] <Dbugger> or was that just an example?
[17:35:23] <Elarcis> Dbugger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217
[17:35:41] <Elarcis> Dbugger: the value of configuration.calculationSettings.currency (EUR was an example)
[17:35:52] <Dbugger> I guess I will first read about the currency pipe
[17:35:59] <Dbugger> or I wont be able to make any sense out of it
[17:36:03] <Elarcis> Dbugger: ':' is just the way to separate arguments you pass to pipes
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[17:36:25] <Dbugger> so "|" is to create pipes and ":" is to configure such pipes?
[17:36:32] <Elarcis> Dbugger: here is the doc for pipes https://angular.io/guide/pipes
[17:36:37] <Elarcis> Dbugger: not create them, use them.
[17:36:49] <Elarcis> Dbugger: but yes, in a nutshell you got it
[17:37:02] <Dbugger> Ok, thanks
[17:37:09] <Elarcis> Dbugger: I sent you the doc for pipes, it’ll be clearer
[17:38:31] <Dbugger> thanks mate
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[18:12:47] <Elarcis> done for this week, bye!
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[18:48:58] <Guest29842> has any1 been able to use a single core for multiple apps
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[19:49:02] <manjaroChimp> hello, i cannot figure out how to use exponents from within the html template. for exmaple {{t.balance * 10^-8}}
[19:57:07] <asdfman> {{t.balance * Math.pow(10, -8)}}
[19:57:36] <asdfman> but also add -> Math: Math = Math in your component .ts
[19:57:51] <manjaroChimp> okay will give a shot, thank you!
[19:57:52] <asdfman> need a variable with some Math in it to use it from html template
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[20:08:32] <manjaroChimp> that worked! thank you so much
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[20:11:36] <Guest29842> essentially plain javascript
[20:12:04] <manjaroChimp> yup, you guys rock. easy simple solution
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[22:28:35] <similian21> hi
[22:28:56] <similian21> how would i setup a library with angular 5
[22:29:07] <similian21> i have quite a few shared components
[22:29:22] <similian21> ist ng-packagr the best way?
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[22:29:44] <similian21> and can i do a local link to my package
[22:29:57] <similian21> or how would i do the dewelopment setup
[22:30:12] <similian21> serve main project
[22:30:19] <similian21> yet do changes in my commons lib
[22:30:26] <similian21> without having to repackage
[22:30:30] <similian21> lib
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[22:56:40] <similian21> how could i live link my package (library module) to my project
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[23:15:25] <IR3275> hello
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[23:24:56] <k1ng440> Hello, how to do change color highlight like this website http://www.coincap.io/?
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[23:53:20] <J3089TE> ngif is usally used in a tag e.g. div. Is it possible to use it without a tag? e.g. {{(condion)?a:b}}
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[23:59:37] <J3089TE> nvm
[23:59:40] <J3089TE> found it already
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