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[00:34:11] <graingert> redux?
[00:34:21] <graingert> wafflejock: why would you need redux for a modal?
[00:35:36] <wafflejock> graingert, you need redux to make react usable on a big app from what I've heard/seen or used to be you need flux
[00:36:51] <wafflejock> also I don't see how saying use some other framework plus a library is a good solution when just add another library wasn't an option
[00:36:55] <graingert> meh never seen that
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[08:56:41] <SargoDarya> Morning folks
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[09:11:46] <Elarcis> yoo
[09:11:52] <Elarcis> how are you?
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[09:14:43] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
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[09:23:21] <Elarcis> icebox: so, how are _you_?
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[09:31:03] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis icebox #angularjs
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[10:00:42] <Elarcis> yo Pyrrhus6661 !
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[10:01:51] <Pyrrhus666> I just got a real bluescreen crash... the 2nd in 4.5 years on this laptop.
[10:01:56] <Elarcis> damn
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[10:02:13] <Elarcis> I got 2 bsod this week-end, hadn’t had one in months
[10:03:46] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: is it some kind of global trend?
[10:03:47] <Pyrrhus666> probably bits falling over due to EM storms from the sun. or someone doing a rowhammer ;)
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[10:04:34] <ray02> hello hello
[10:04:47] <ray02> morning channel
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[10:06:02] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
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[10:08:37] <SargoDarya> How's it going fellas?
[10:09:10] <ray02> i'm fine
[10:09:20] <ray02> happyness
[10:12:09] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya
[10:12:46] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: pretty fine
[10:13:09] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: started playing Oxenfree yesterday. Not much game mechanics, very cool ambiance
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[10:17:13] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, played that a while back. pretty cool.
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[10:21:27] <SargoDarya> Elarcis: I was getting more and more into Unreal Engine
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[10:21:43] <SargoDarya> Started getting into urban design and planning for my game
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[10:22:49] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: game of what?
[10:22:59] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: A… CITY BUILDER?
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[10:24:10] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: OT: could you tell me what made you chose UE rather than Unity? The language, the technical performances, blueprints, just testing it?
[10:24:36] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: I’m being curious about both myself
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[10:27:30] <SargoDarya> Elarcis: Futuristic racing game.
[10:28:18] <SargoDarya> And overall I like the workflow with unreal engine better regarding UI etc.
[10:28:28] <SargoDarya> Unity to me still looks like a toy compared to that.
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[10:45:39] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: interesting
[10:45:46] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: maybe I’ll look into it one day
[10:46:27] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: we could be learning pals :P
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[10:49:26] <SargoDarya> Unreal Engine I feel is pretty easy to learn.
[10:49:43] <SargoDarya> It's like Rocket League, easy to get started but hard to master xD
[10:49:59] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: oh? I had the opposed feeling. Probably due to C++, I’m very not familiar with it
[10:50:22] <SargoDarya> But that's the thing. You don't have to use C++, you can do whole games with blueprints.
[10:50:24] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: I get the feeling UE is more professionnal, while Unity has a "beginners and indies" friendly approach
[10:50:38] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: doesn’t that impede on perfs and freedom?
[10:51:24] <SargoDarya> Completely depends what you want to achieve but blueprints are very flexible and if I'm not mistaken get compiled down to C++ code during build time.
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[10:53:20] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: yeah, but it’s common knowledge that just because it ends up as some language in the end doesn’t mean it’s better, maybe I’m biased, but I’ve always heard that these kind of UI abstractions leads to a cookie-cutter approach by the engine and are better used for prototyping
[10:53:37] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: Again, I’ve never used it and barely followed one Unity tutorial :P
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[10:54:09] <SargoDarya> I think you can't really get around that for event handling etc. but I quite like it.
[10:55:25] <wafflejock> SargoDarya, you played "Distance"? pretty fun racing tron like with partially flying cars
[10:58:56] <wafflejock> http://store.steampowered.com/app/233610/Distance/
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[11:01:07] <SargoDarya> wafflejock: I did. Played through it.
[11:04:39] <Pyrrhus666> now I want to play f-zero on my old gamecube...
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[11:06:03] <wafflejock> oh man f-zero was soo good
[11:06:08] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: Might not be Gamecube, but https://emulatoronline.com/n64-games/f-zero-x/
[11:06:18] <wafflejock> played lots of super monkeyball on gamecube too was fun in college
[11:06:21] <Pyrrhus666> spent soooo many hours on that...
[11:06:35] <Pyrrhus666> haha, yes, esp. with four people :)
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[11:09:27] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, pretty cool :) sound is choppy for me though.
[11:12:54] <J3089TE> I want to execute a function every time a route change. How do I do that?
[11:14:05] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, watch for routeChange events ?
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[11:15:50] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, https://angular.io/guide/router#router-events
[11:24:05] <Elarcis> OT: btw, they’re making a new Ori game! I am so hyped!
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[11:25:03] <SargoDarya> Neat.
[11:26:13] <Elarcis> I am just slightly worried because it’s an Unity game and they announced XBox/Windows 10 exclusivity, and I wonder what "Windows 10" means, like… Windows, available on Steam? Only available through the Windows Store?
[11:27:05] <Pyrrhus666> ¨exclusivity¨ is mostly a time-related thing (re: ff XV coming to windows now)
[11:27:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: probably
[11:29:35] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: thanks
[11:29:49] <J3089TE> is it possible to make a service (e.g. alertService) global?
[11:30:16] <J3089TE> Right now I am almost inclusing the service in every constructor of my components.
[11:30:36] <J3089TE> I want to be able to use the service in all my templates without injecting it through the constuctor.
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[11:33:58] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, don´t think so
[11:34:44] <wafflejock> J3089TE, shot in the dark but can you just make a base class your other stuff extends from and inject it there?
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[11:35:48] <J3089TE> will have a look.
[11:36:23] <wafflejock> ah no looks like you still have to do it in the derived class too unfortunately https://angular.io/guide/dependency-injection-in-action#inject-into-a-derived-class
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[11:47:13] <Elarcis> J3089TE: no, if you need a service everywhere you’ll have to inject it every
[11:47:18] <Elarcis> J3089TE: where.
[11:47:34] <Elarcis> J3089TE: be aware that it maybe needs you’re not separating concerns well enough
[11:47:58] <Elarcis> J3089TE: * it maybe means
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[12:13:32] <J3089TE> ok
[12:14:16] <J3089TE> I want to use select2 for my big select boxes. But I have had bad experience with select2. What is your advice?
[12:14:57] <J3089TE> Elarcis:  I am using an alert Service to print out alert messages. Do you have a better way to do it?
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[12:33:59] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: Have you seen the recommended specs for FFXV?
[12:34:22] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: In case you haven't https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fantasy-xv/final-fantasy-xv-system-requirements
[12:35:16] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, all set. I game on my full-hd TV, so no problem :)
[12:35:53] <Pyrrhus666> then again, I´ll probably buy it in the steam wintersale of 2019.
[12:35:56] <SargoDarya> The true cost of that game for me will be more like 180$, gonna need a new SSD for it xD
[12:42:23] <Pyrrhus666> I´ll just delete some porn and re-download that late :P
[12:43:38] <Elarcis> J3089TE: I’d probably have used a component for that, but that depends on your use case.
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[12:53:51] <J3089TE> Elarcis: I use a component for that in combination of a service to support alert across routes
[12:54:41] <J3089TE> but the service stil has to be injected in every component that needs to alert the user.
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[12:57:29] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: who downloads porn nowadays?
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[13:01:03] <Elarcis> J3089TE: no, because a single component gets the role of alerting the user. other components just call it.
[13:01:37] <Elarcis> J3089TE: It does not make components a magical answer to that problem, it’s just because I’d do a component that is styled to look like an overlay alert, and nothing more
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[13:42:46] <borgdrone7_> hi guys, I have 3rd party directive and I have my controller which is handling it. However I have another parent controller inside which I want to put multiple of these 3rd party directives each having different property from parent controller passed to it as some property. (for eg. testdata="duck", testdata="dog", testdata="foo" per each directive). As that 3rd party directive doesn't have isolated scope
[13:42:46] <borgdrone7_> testdata how can I do it?
[13:43:06] <icebox> Elarcis: fine, but I have been giving help to the middle office creating a few reports... so I am not at my desk
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[13:54:55] <J3089TE> y default the HttpClient returns the body of the response. You can pass-in an object with an observe key set to a value of ‘response’ to get the full response.  <-- what is the Object type that httpclient returns?
[13:55:12] <J3089TE> is it HttpResponse?
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[15:00:26] <f2k> Hi, I'm using AngularJS 1.5 with ngResource and a REST API that wraps an array of enitities in a "root object". I guess I need to "transformResponse" every query() request to have it as an array of $resource objects instead of a single $resource with a single object? Or is there a way to drop the root element in AngularJS?
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[15:24:28] <borgdrone7_> so I solved my issue by wrapping 3rd party directive inside my directive (compile). Now some examples for 3rd party directive have code like: this.addColumn, etc. How do I now access "this" of 3rd party directive which I compiled in my directive?
[15:25:29] <anli> Is it possible to intercept angularjs errors?
[15:26:01] <DieguezZ_> hi, any idea why i am getting Expected validator to return Promise or Observable.? https://kopy.io/P7Xcj
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[15:27:53] <anli> What I really want is a developer console, created with script
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[15:32:18] <Elarcis> anli: not that I’ve heard of
[15:33:08] <Elarcis> anli: oh, but look https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$exceptionHandler
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[15:33:42] <Elarcis> anli: this seems interesting, you could log errors internally and call this service in your "dev console" component, or even log errors server side for later monitoring
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[15:40:54] <Pyrrhus666> OT, ISO 4.000.000 : https://youtu.be/1NwHi7ZiF7k?t=2m38s
[15:40:57] <Pyrrhus666> insane
[15:44:11] <zomg> eh
[15:44:14] <zomg> can't be
[15:44:29] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: I don’t get the joke
[15:44:30] <zomg> with that high of an ISO, the pixels would be so big even Minecraft would be jealous
[15:44:33] <zomg> :D
[15:44:35] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: ah, the camera
[15:44:43] <Pyrrhus666> https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/cameras/multi-purpose-cameras/me20f-sh
[15:44:45] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: thought you meant a standard XDD
[15:44:56] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, haha :)
[15:45:14] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: to be fair, that is a pretty neat reflector too
[15:45:42] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: mine isn’t even half that big, and it’s already cool to look in it
[15:45:51] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, true. but the fact that they can film the perseids and have them so visible is insane to me..
[15:46:04] <SargoDarya> zomg: ISO doesn't have anything to do with pixel size.
[15:46:25] <SargoDarya> Simply means that the sensor is much much more sensitive to light.
[15:46:42] <zomg> watch out mr. serious business here
[15:46:44] <zomg> :D
[15:47:07] <zomg> but the average camera with even iso 1000 becomes so fucking grainy
[15:47:13] <zomg> in case I have to actually explain the joke
[15:47:13] <zomg> :D
[15:47:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: astrophotography is something I’d like to do… if only I lived far from the city and had both the money and weather for it :P
[15:47:37] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, aren´t you near mountains ?
[15:47:38] <SargoDarya> Grainy is something else though
[15:47:47] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: you mean the Alps?
[15:47:47] <zomg> BIG
[15:47:48] <zomg> PIXELS
[15:48:10] <SargoDarya> You'd get big pixels if you try to record slow mos
[15:48:15] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: like 3h of car away, yes, but I don’t go out that often
[15:48:15] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, when in france, that would be a somewhat logical choice, yes ;)
[15:48:41] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, ah, that´s too far for an evening of watching
[15:49:07] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: that implies me renting a room in the Alps for a few days AND having the equipment to use almost exclusively for these periods of time
[15:49:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: or going camping in the wild
[15:50:04] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, can´t you attach a dslr to your reflector ?
[15:50:08] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: too much of a hassle, I’d rather enjoy the view, honestly
[15:50:19] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: no, it’s a big-ass non-motorized dobson
[15:50:36] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: you don’t attach cameras to that, the Earth’s rotation blurs every long pose
[15:50:52] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, ah, ok.
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[15:51:09] <Pyrrhus666> needing a tracking telescope sounds expensive
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[15:52:34] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: the mount needs to be both robust and precise, thus heavy and expensive
[15:53:01] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: you don’t need that big of a telescope
[15:53:08] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, I understand. hadn´t thought of that, but it sounds logical.
[15:55:45] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: kind of what I have https://www.astroshop.eu/gso-dobson-telescope-n-250-1250-dob/p,6680
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[15:57:23] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, cool. didn´t know those were quite that affordable
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[15:59:07] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: it wasn’t that much when I bought it T_T
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[16:02:51] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, so something like this would do : https://www.astroshop.eu/skywatcher-maksutov-telescope-mc-127-1500-skymax-bd-az-s-goto/p,14987#tab_bar_1_select
[16:03:03] <Pyrrhus666> (for astrophotography)
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[16:06:47] <Elarcis> Maksutovs are quite expensive and not very good for wide field iirc
[16:07:28] <Pyrrhus666> at that price there´s bound to be a downside. others are closer to 2000 euros
[16:09:23] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: heh, astrophotography is expensive in itself. Most of the time, it is discouraged to even consider it under 1500€ (when buying a telescope, you can totally fix a DSLR on a mount without a tube and have great photos)
[16:10:18] <Pyrrhus666> Elarcis, I see. an expensive hobby :)
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[17:55:46] <Elarcis> good evening, people!
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[21:03:27] <prof_radians> hello.  Should angular replace foo in {{foo}} inside of a script block?  I'm trying to call some javascript with a dynamically generated id, to instantiate a 3rd party js text editor.
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