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[00:48:47] <ASUchander1> Is there a way to get angular to use jQuery without setting jQuery as a window level reference?
[00:49:01] <ASUchander1> i.e., without having to do "window.jQuery=jQuery"
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[03:41:50] <wafflejock> ASUchander1, if you include the jquery script before the angular script then all angular.element(someElem) or other places an angular element would show up like in a directive link function it will be a full jQuery object instead of jQLite angular uses
[03:42:02] <wafflejock> ASUchander1, https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/function/angular.element
[03:42:38] <wafflejock> for version 1.x at least if you're talking 2+ I'm not sure about including it there
[03:45:25] <ASUchander1> wafflejock: Yeah, the issue there is then I need to have jquery defined at the window level.
[03:45:54] <ASUchander1> However, I figured out how to do it with webpack's ProvidePlugin
[03:46:36] <ASUchander1> basically, it monkey patches angular to replace references to "window.jQuery" with an imported jQuery - so no need to include jquery at the window level (or include it's script.)
[03:54:23] <wafflejock> ah cool good to know
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[06:24:22] <dkphenom> hello, is there a way in ng2+ to show a "notification" message after a redirect with router.navigate? say I've added a user to the system and redirect to the list users page, i'd like to show a message at the top that the user has been added....
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[08:04:40] <icebox> hey folks
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[08:23:18] <lohfu> mornin
[08:24:38] <icebox> lohfu: hey
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[08:33:30] <Elarcis> yoo
[08:38:38] <Elarcis> icebox: I read about HyperHTML this week-end, although I don’t like the creator’s personnality, she’s got valid points and the stuff looks very interesting (especially HyperHTMLElement)
[08:39:09] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
[08:39:11] <icebox> Elarcis: nice
[08:39:33] <icebox> Elarcis: what is the "disturbing" trait?
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[08:39:46] <icebox> too aggressive in the issues?
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[08:40:32] <Elarcis> icebox: the "others do shit, my solution is better in every aspect" vibe you get from reading her articles
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[08:43:50] <icebox> ah yes... a bit annoying... but he means "did you do your homework before criticizing me?"
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[08:56:35] <Elarcis> ah no, that one is very understandable, people just saying "yeah, a lib that does innerHTML for short, not scalable in my book" were plain annoying to me too
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[09:10:19] <Elarcis> I just read code from our (non-dev) colleague
[09:10:44] <icebox> code from non dev?
[09:10:48] <Elarcis> yup
[09:10:58] <Elarcis> I think he didn’t really get the point of map() and is just using it as a forEach replacement XD
[09:11:27] <icebox> and is it wrong? :)
[09:12:11] <Elarcis> yes, I’ll explain it to him, but in the meantime as long as it works we’re not expecting pure quality work from him
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[09:18:29] <max_at> good morning!
[09:19:14] <icebox> max_at: hey
[09:19:54] <max_at> I am struggeling with DeprecatedI18NPipesModule which, at least for me, seems not to work. my custom pipe throws locale.toLowerCase is not a function .. replicated it in stackblitz to narrow down the root cause, but couldn't find solution so far. https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-currencypipe-ng5
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[09:25:20] <icebox> max_at: did you read the warning before the error?
[09:25:41] <icebox> max_at: Warning: the currency pipe has been changed in Angular v5. The symbolDisplay option (third parameter) is now a string instead of a boolean. The accepted values are "code", "symbol" or "symbol-narrow".
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[09:26:24] <icebox> max_at: is it related to the issue?
[09:26:27] <max_at> yes, but this should be handled by the deprecatedpipesmodule, I guess
[09:27:19] <icebox> max_at: what do you expect for injector.get(LOCALE_ID) ? A string?
[09:27:22] <max_at> I tried changing this already, but reverted it to old legacy pipe behavior in order do be compliant
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[09:28:58] <max_at> if you do a console log it is of type InjectionToken and being interpreted during runtime, in the end it is a string like  en, de, en-US, de-DE
[09:31:04] <icebox> max_at: what is "locale" when you debug it?
[09:32:51] <max_at> This is in common.umd.js which I debugged locally only for the non-working version for now, there it still was the InjectionToken which obviously is not a string. Good idea to check it in the working version and maybe detect where it should get resolved.
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[09:34:36] <icebox> max_at: sorry for the dummy questions, but I have not time to debug it... and I am off in a few minutes
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[09:35:22] <max_at> Explaining a problem sometimes already solves it, so keep on asking stupid things :P
[09:35:32] <max_at> And no, they're not stupid.
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[09:43:50] <max_at> I have seen there is DeprecatedCurrencyPipe now in common.umd .. I guess DeprecatedI18NPipesModule is automatically mapping deprecated with new ones, but who knows?
[09:44:18] <max_at> I am now also off for some minutes and have no irc bot, so I'll msg here again once I am back to receive some answers :-)
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[09:50:18] <icebox> max_at: I think there is something wrong in CustomCurrencyPipe constructor because when you execute this.currencyPipe.transform(...), the exeception is thrown... at least that is what I see when I debug it
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[09:57:36] <SargoDarya> Morning folks
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[09:58:01] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
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[10:04:07] <Elarcis> icebox: how do you handle the data layer with HyperHTML? do you have an in-house DI-like system, or do you use external libs to handle that kind of things? like HTTP calls, etc.?
[10:04:14] <Elarcis> hello Pyrrhus666, my lov.
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[10:05:24] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis, mon chérie
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[10:06:09] <Pyrrhus666> btw, icebox said yesterday he had loads of meetings this week, so probably not in channel much
[10:06:47] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: oh, okay. Poop.
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[10:17:19] <Elarcis> OT: Abzu’s soundtrack really is brilliant. https://play.google.com/music/m/B2mfcjmrurcrye4ysgd6qwebs6y?t=Abzu_-_Austin_Wintory
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[10:19:44] <SargoDarya> Yay, finally got to upload some music again
[10:20:19] <SargoDarya> Elarcis: I remember you wanting to hear something: https://soundcloud.com/sargodarya/my-closet
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[10:25:54] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: nice and simple
[10:26:00] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: :D
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[10:26:35] <SargoDarya> Elarcis: Feels creepy, has some suspense to it and ends nicely. I think that's my most well produced one at the moment
[10:27:46] <ray02> hello hello
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[10:28:25] <SargoDarya> Morning ray02
[10:28:37] <ray02> morning to all
[10:29:19] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02 SargoDarya
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[10:43:04] <anli> Is there some angularjs addon to prevent double clicking?
[10:43:17] <anli> I do not want ng-click to cause two events if they are too close in time
[10:43:55] <Elarcis> anli: I’m so sorry for your loss
[10:44:12] <Elarcis> anli: are you using lodash?
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[10:45:07] <anli> nope
[10:46:07] <Elarcis> anli: I don’t see any simple solution other than creating your own ngClick directive to debounce the callback over a fixed amount of time (500ms e.g.) until the debounce timer has ended without any additional click
[10:46:30] <anli> So ngSingleClick then
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[10:47:03] <Elarcis> anli: that, or tell the boss/customer that no, users need to learn not to double-click when they’re on a webapp
[10:47:13] <anli> I wish I had the power to do that
[10:47:31] <Elarcis> anli: you have the power, it’s their problem if they don’t listen :P
[10:47:32] <anli> Also, it is not really that users should learn from programmers, but the other way around :)
[10:47:37] <anli> hehe
[10:48:37] <anli> But apparently, the requirements is that I need to write a directive so that the app is not doing what the user instructs it to do
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[10:49:16] <Elarcis> anli: here is your issue
[10:49:58] <Elarcis> anli: btw, blindly listening to users leads to "why is this sooo haaaaaard can’t you just make it simpler?" situation, when presented with a single button to do everything
[10:49:59] <anli> https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues/9826 contains code for a myClickOnce handler
[10:50:00] <Elarcis> (true story)
[10:50:19] <anli> I agree things needs to be simplified
[10:50:21] <max_at> Hello again
[10:50:33] <anli> So customers cannot be told they actually are wrong on that.
[10:50:40] <anli> in
[10:51:10] <anli> Double clicking in itself is an ugly solution to a problem.
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[10:51:55] <anli> I have seen triple clicking solutions which are even uglier
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[10:53:13] <Elarcis> anli: I agree double-click was an error.
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[10:53:58] <Elarcis> anli: now you have programs with single clicks, others with double, and you always second guess a click because you’re not sure it will just highlight the element or activate it
[10:54:00] <max_at> how about right and middle-click .. or double-right-click .. muahaha
[10:54:17] <anli> Middle click is beyond ugly :)
[10:54:34] <anli> It makes my finger hurt
[10:54:47] <anli> :)
[10:54:48] <max_at> especially most users don't even have a middle button
[10:55:08] <anli> I disagree, cant say I have seen a mouse without a clickable mouse wheel the last 10 years
[10:55:18] <max_at> so it ends up in combination of right and leftclick. ok stop that here. I am starting to puke soon
[10:55:26] <anli> :)
[10:55:44] <max_at> anli: have a look at the Apple ecosystem
[10:57:16] <Pyrrhus666> middle click is the bomb.
[10:58:01] <anli> Apple computers confuses page up with page down
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[10:58:47] <anli> Also, they have pretzels and apples
[10:59:05] <Pyrrhus666> iPretzels and iApples
[10:59:07] <anli> hehe
[10:59:22] <anli> Maybe I will buy one of those fruit computers soon
[11:00:10] <Pyrrhus666> think different, become like everybody else :P
[11:03:24] <max_at> :-D sounds like Berlin style
[11:04:02] <anli> hehe
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[11:06:38] <Pyrrhus666> ¨think different¨ was the slogan apple used in advertising in the 90s. which feels weird when idevices a so prevalent these days.
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[11:08:55] <ray02> channel, i need your help
[11:08:59] <ray02> https://imgur.com/a/MYH8b
[11:09:15] <ray02> this is my situation of my component
[11:10:04] <ray02> when i load the resultat component i have an error from soddisfationComponent
[11:10:24] <ray02> because the imputvalue is undefined
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[11:10:49] <ray02> how i can avoid this situation?
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[11:11:47] <ray02> i'm in  a angular-cli enviroment
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[11:16:40] <Pyrrhus666> make sure there´s always an inputvalue.
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[11:22:31] <ray02> i'm also giving a defautl value to the input
[11:23:17] <ray02> but on the first hit give me undefined value
[11:23:31] <ray02> than is populated
[11:23:51] <Pyrrhus666> so debug why it´s undefined. if you supply a default, that shouldn´t happen...
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[11:24:54] <ray02> i agree
[11:25:40] <Pyrrhus666> if need be, try to recreate the issue in a stackblitz, then we can look at it better than with just an image ;)
[11:26:03] <ray02> yeah you are right
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[11:34:26] <Elarcis> bleblebleghblbl
[11:34:41] <ray02> but why an input value is undefined?
[11:35:17] <Pyrrhus666> because you actually pass undefined, overriding the default ?
[11:39:42] <ray02> how i can use an input only when is defined?
[11:41:46] <Pyrrhus666> by detecting that it´s undefined and thus not use it ? this is a bit too general ;)
[11:43:34] <ray02> because i think the problem is that i'm passing the data from a father component and so since the child is first called at the begin is undefined
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[11:54:04] <ray02> ah i solved :)
[11:54:21] <ray02> was a question of api
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[12:07:16] <Pyrrhus666> good :)
[12:07:58] <ray02> noob stuff :p
[12:08:30] <ray02> replicate an error anyway is very difficult
[12:09:02] <ray02> because if you repeat it it mean that you know what you are doing
[12:09:31] <ray02> and if you know what are you doing it means that you shuldn't make mistake no?
[12:09:38] <Pyrrhus666> yeah, try reproducing extremely vague database errors... haven´t succeeded as of yet...
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[12:12:54] <ray02> uff
[12:12:55] <ray02> :)
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[12:41:49] <J3089TE> is the selector always required for a component? When I am using a router outlet, I don't the selector
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[12:57:10] <Pyrrhus666> afaik it´s mandatory, even if unused.
[12:59:14] <Elarcis> J3089TE: yes, it’s mandatory. The reasoning is that a component usually shouldn’t care whether it’s routed or not, it’s a feature that _can_ be routed.
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[13:08:12] <J3089TE> I have a a third party jgquery plugin that I use in my project. It is giving me trouble because there is nop .d.ts file. Can some one point me to the right direction to create a d.ts file for this jquery plugin?
[13:08:33] <J3089TE> This plugin only has one function $(ele).menuzord();
[13:08:51] <Pyrrhus666> can a .js file have typings ?
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[13:09:20] <J3089TE> I think the definition file does not care how you load the actual source.
[13:09:35] <J3089TE> it only tells the 'compile' what it is
[13:09:40] <J3089TE> compiler
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[13:13:30] <Pyrrhus666> but js doesn´t get compiled
[13:13:48] <Pyrrhus666> oh well, you´re probably right, even if I don´t get it :)
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[13:14:27] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: what they mean is that $ has the type JQuery, and that their plugin is not recognized by TS
[13:14:28] <J3089TE> the .d.ts file only tell the compiler that a certain function exists.
[13:15:05] <Elarcis> J3089TE: have you checked if there is a @types package for your plugin?
[13:15:26] <J3089TE> Elarcis: yes, it is a private commercial plugin
[13:15:33] <J3089TE> no @type found
[13:16:21] <Elarcis> J3089TE: okay. I suggest you declare a JQuery interface in a custom d.ts and add your method in it
[13:16:45] <Elarcis> J3089TE: Typescript should add thad definition to the existing JQuery interface and you should be good to go
[13:17:15] <J3089TE> Elarcis: that is what I am trying to do
[13:17:34] <J3089TE> I am trying to find an example of jquery plugin with a .d.ts file to make my own
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[13:19:26] <Elarcis> J3089TE: you mean that? https://medium.com/@NetanelBasal/typescript-integrate-jquery-plugin-in-your-project-e28c6887d8dc
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[13:22:11] <J3089TE> Elarcis: Yes!!
[13:22:14] <Elarcis> J3089TE: there really is no magic about it, you overload the JQuery interface in any d.ts file, and whatever you put in it is automatically recognized by TS.
[13:22:25] <J3089TE> solved it by adding:
[13:22:26] <J3089TE> interface JQuery {
[13:22:28] <J3089TE>   menuzord(options?: any) : any;
[13:22:29] <J3089TE> }
[13:22:36] <J3089TE> to typpings.d.ts file
[13:22:52] <Elarcis> J3089TE: what is typings.d.ts?
[13:23:05] <J3089TE> that is a standard file you get with angular-cli
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[13:23:11] <Elarcis> J3089TE: ah, ok
[13:23:13] <J3089TE> in there you can add custome defintions
[13:23:24] <Elarcis> J3089TE: I would recommend to try and type the method’s parameters and return type, though
[13:23:47] <Elarcis> J3089TE: for added comfort
[13:24:04] <J3089TE> true
[13:24:27] <J3089TE> but I don't know what options the function accept. I only  have example of two options.
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[13:24:37] <J3089TE> the source of the plugin is encoded. :-(
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[13:25:37] <Elarcis> J3089TE: well, type these two options, and if the plugin has documentation, maybe type some more :P
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[13:26:14] <Elarcis> J3089TE: it’s only minified, and I’m pretty sure the options still are in clear somewhere in the obfuscated code
[13:26:28] <J3089TE> I  still get jquery error :-9
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[13:26:38] <J3089TE>  ngAfterViewInit(): void {
[13:26:39] <J3089TE>     if (jQuery('.menuzord .public .indicator').length === 0 ) {
[13:26:47] <J3089TE> SiteLayoutComponent_Host.ngfactory.js? [sm]:1 ERROR ReferenceError: jQuery is not defined
[13:27:19] <Elarcis> J3089TE: you need to import jquery, or import it as a global script in your angular cli config
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[13:30:54] <J3089TE> Elarcis: can't find documentation how to do it
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[13:32:03] <Elarcis> J3089TE: do you want the direct link or the "LMGTFY - I feel lucky" result?
[13:32:41] <J3089TE> Elarcis: whatever you prefer
[13:33:03] <Elarcis> J3089TE: for funsies http://lmgtfy.com/?q=import+it+as+a+global+script+in+your+angular+cli+config
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[13:35:14] <icebox> Elarcis: back... util class with fetch
[13:36:11] <icebox> max_at: resolved?
[13:36:20] <max_at> nope
[13:36:25] <J3089TE> Elarcis: it compiles w/o error but I get the error when I running the app inside the browser.
[13:36:36] <J3089TE> I am using $ inside ngAfterViewInit()
[13:36:48] <J3089TE> maybe at that stage, $ i s not yet loaded?
[13:37:09] <Elarcis> J3089TE: is your JQuery in the global scripts section of your angular cli config?
[13:37:11] <max_at> icebox: We got it working at least for a statically defined locale, but in the end this doesn't help ^^
[13:37:17] <icebox> max_at: did you check Pyrrhus666's suggestions?
[13:37:25] <Elarcis> J3089TE: you told TS that there is a global JQuery object, but it isn’t actually there
[13:37:37] <icebox> max_at: I see
[13:37:54] <Elarcis> icebox: I see
[13:37:57] <Elarcis> lol
[13:37:58] <J3089TE> Elarcis: https://pastebin.com/YejcEhAB
[13:38:03] <max_at> lol
[13:38:33] <J3089TE> Elarcis: $ works in the browser console.
[13:39:01] <Elarcis> J3089TE: then that’s because there’s no code that says that the global jquery === $
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[13:41:37] <J3089TE> Elarcis: by bad. wrong file name in the scripts part
[13:41:42] <J3089TE> problem solved now
[13:42:01] <max_at> Sometimes its the easy things.
[13:42:13] <Elarcis> the devil is in the details
[13:42:14] <J3089TE> it hsould be ../node_modules/jquery/dist/jquery.js instead ../node_modules/jquery/dist/jquery.min.js
[13:44:18] <max_at> icebox: can you see the // ng 5 static injectors comment here?   https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-currencypipe-ng5?file=app%2Fcustom-currency.pipe.ts   just saved it and not sure if got updated properly
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[13:45:12] <Pyrrhus666> it´s there
[13:46:21] <max_at> If you toggle comments from :42 and :43 you see the error again, which needs to be fixed. -.- super weird
[13:46:48] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, why aren´t you setting the locale at app-level ?
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[13:47:25] <max_at> We have drop downs that can switch currencies on demand
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[13:47:53] <max_at> So it should be instantiated on the fly with proper locale
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[13:49:29] <Pyrrhus666> afaik that´s not how it´s supposed to work, but I´m not sure. also, dynamic setting/switching local is, afaik, not supported AT ALL.
[13:51:06] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, maybe this tells you something : https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/16477
[13:54:10] <max_at> thanks, haven't seen this one so far. It was working with ng4 :) but dependency injection has been changed, i18n also moved all languages out to separate files, which in combination might cause the issue we are facing
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[13:55:33] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, yw. also : switching the complete locale just to display currencies sounds a but much...
[13:55:45] <Pyrrhus666> (but maybe I´m missing something here)
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[14:03:39] <max_at> Pyrrhus666: In this case it is getting the locale injector instance for a specific locale and uses this in the @Pipe. So besides the whole app runs eg. on DE/EUR, you are still able to see a specific part of the page (eg. price card) in CAD canadian dollars for example.
[14:04:44] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, I see. why would I want that though ? ;)
[14:05:01] <max_at> Ask our stakeholders :D
[14:05:07] <Pyrrhus666> haha :)
[14:05:56] <Pyrrhus666> I have never seen this in the wild. also : I would not do it via locale, if pressed to build such a thing
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[14:06:35] <Pyrrhus666> maybe just a custom pipe to display currencies, not depending on locale at all
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[14:06:59] <max_at> i18n is used for proper formatting
[14:07:40] <Pyrrhus666> formatting of (say) canadian dollars can still be done in the german way (if that is your locale). but that´s me :)
[14:08:25] <Pyrrhus666> I mean, if my dutch app presents a price in dollars, but is still dutch, I use the dutch way to show currencies.
[14:08:49] <max_at> yes, we're using locale since it was simple to use and fulfilled the need:   displaying  € or EUR or pound sign or GBP including proper formatting .. depending on the selected currency
[14:09:30] <Pyrrhus666> but formatting is not dependent on currency, it´s dependent on locale, imho.
[14:09:55] <Pyrrhus666> it´s a potato potato case, I guess :)
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[14:10:34] <max_at> In this case you might be a US sales guy, creating an offer for a german customer, which requires to have german formatting also when creating a pdf or sending via email for example.
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[14:11:46] <Pyrrhus666> true, but that means that _in_the_pdf_ everything changes to german, but not in the app that is still en_US that the sales guy sees...
[14:11:50] <Pyrrhus666> again, imho.
[14:12:07] <max_at> whatever, I need to solve the issue :P
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[14:12:34] <Pyrrhus6661> and poof went the internet
[14:12:51] <max_at> ^^
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[14:13:29] <Pyrrhus6661> no, it really went poof on my end :)
[14:13:30] <SuperTyp> hi all
[14:13:34] <SuperTyp> anyone using material datepicker?
[14:13:59] <icebox> SuperTyp: no :)
[14:14:04] <max_at> Pyrrhus6661: at least it recovered immediately.
[14:14:09] <max_at> SuperTyp: no
[14:14:16] <icebox> potato potato use case is great :)
[14:14:41] <icebox> I will try to use that term in the next meeting :)
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[14:18:09] <max_at> Please tell us your experiences then ;-)
[14:18:47] <icebox> I cannot without a NDA :)
[14:21:01] <Pyrrhus6661> icebox, works best in text :P
[14:21:08] <Pyrrhus6661> also : tomato tomato
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[14:23:22] <icebox> or banana bananaaaa! :)
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[14:24:05] <Pyrrhus6661> icebox, that´s... not quite the same I think :P
[14:24:31] <Pyrrhus6661> max_at, if it´s just currency display, maybe http://numeraljs.com/ would work for you ?
[14:24:47] <Pyrrhus6661> (a suggestion of a colleague)
[14:27:40] <max_at> I thought about moment.js already, also npm i18n module which I know from node.js. Didn't know numeral.js yet, but it looks promising, thanks. Wanted to stick to angular i18n stuff since it exists already and is integrated, but if it does not work as it should, I'll wait for it to be non-experimental and go with a different approach.
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[14:28:42] <SuperTyp> "i18n" how was it pronounced againß
[14:28:44] <SuperTyp> ?
[14:28:57] <max_at> Internationalization
[14:29:03] <Pyrrhus6661> ^
[14:30:05] <SuperTyp> but why?
[14:30:09] <SuperTyp> 18?
[14:30:11] <max_at> https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2011/12/14/i18n-vs-l10n-whats-the-diff/ :D
[14:30:20] <max_at> i .. 18 chars and and n in the end
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[14:30:26] <max_at> charcount :D
[14:30:33] <SuperTyp> thx
[14:30:46] <max_at> all okay, S6p
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[14:30:54] <max_at> I am m4t
[14:32:00] <max_at> Pyrrhus6661: numeral.js does have currency symbols, but not the codes. like CAD, GBP, EUR ..
[14:33:53] <Pyrrhus6661> max_at, afaik you can simply do currency: { symbol : ¨EUR¨ } if you really want, but not sure
[14:34:48] <max_at> Or we simply create a custom service which provides those values. might work.
[14:36:36] <Pyrrhus6661> I´d probably go with a custom pipe to just do the formatting. cleanest.
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[14:43:12] <Elarcis> the currency pipe is probably among the most useless pipes I have ever seen
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[14:43:56] <Pyrrhus6661> yeah, it sort of is :)
[14:44:18] <Elarcis> I mean you could at least have a toCurrency pipe which takes 'from' and 'to' and asynchronously convert the value via HTTP requests to a conversion api
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[14:45:17] <Pyrrhus6661> but then you´re dependent on the conversion rates of your chosen provider ;)
[14:46:01] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus6661: a bit of imagination, you could configure the provider via a… provider
[14:46:25] <Pyrrhus6661> a brokerProvider ! or providerBroker ?
[14:46:38] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus6661: providerBrokerProvider
[14:46:52] <Elarcis> obviously
[14:47:09] <Pyrrhus6661> why not a brokerProviderBroker ?
[14:47:27] <Pyrrhus6661> or a providerBrokerFactory ?
[14:47:35] * Pyrrhus6661 explodes
[14:47:48] <max_at> ;-)
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[14:50:05] <Elarcis> NullReferenceException: ExplosionProvider not defined.
[14:50:23] <Pyrrhus6661> and god disappeared in a puff of logic
[14:50:49] <icebox> bananaaaaa!
[14:50:52] <icebox> mic drop
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[14:51:01] <Pyrrhus6661> haha :)
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[15:02:05] <Pyrrhus6661> suppose you´d want to generate IDs that are both unique and random... what algorithm would you use ?
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[15:04:38] <zomg> depends on domain of uniqueness
[15:04:58] <zomg> just generate an ID with a random value and make sure it doesn't exist is one way to do it :P
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[15:06:14] <Pyrrhus6661> zomg, I know, but as the number of used IDs grows, I would want to be sure guessing an existing one would be very hard.
[15:06:32] <Pyrrhus6661> (once used, they never go away)
[15:06:48] <zomg> I guess UUID or GUID + randomness
[15:07:10] <zomg> and hash it with something for good measure so it doesn't look obvious what it is :P
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[15:07:43] <zomg> although if someone was to guess an ID it shouldn't really be a problem or there is some other design flaw
[15:07:59] <Pyrrhus6661> weird stuff happens when doing homemade algos like this, they tend to be a lot less sparse than you´d like
[15:08:24] <Pyrrhus6661> but probably good enough.
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[15:09:49] <zomg> GUID is supposed to be a "globally unique ID"
[15:09:58] <Pyrrhus6661> I guess I´ll stay with purely random strings of a fixed length checked for uniqueness. if the length is large enough relative to the expected number if IDs used, it´ll be sparse enough to be unguessable.
[15:10:07] <zomg> I don't think it's ordered in an obvious way
[15:10:11] <zomg> especially if you were to hash it :P
[15:10:15] <Pyrrhus6661> yes, but not random (dependent on time and MAC)
[15:10:40] <zomg> yeah that's why you can just hash it with something to hide what it is
[15:10:53] <zomg> it really shouldn't make any difference as far as I can tell
[15:11:06] <Pyrrhus6661> hashing tends to make it less unique (at least, that´s what I understand from people who know a lot about crypto)
[15:11:34] <zomg> possibly but I doubt you're going to need millions of unique IDs
[15:12:07] <Pyrrhus6661> but you´re right, in my situation it shouldn´t really matter. but this scheme where people need not login to do something, but use a url with a unique ID gives me the creeps.
[15:12:22] <zomg> uh
[15:12:23] <zomg> yeah.. :D
[15:12:24] <Pyrrhus6661> (but ´they´ want it that way
[15:12:46] <Pyrrhus6661> granted, the ´something´ is not incredibly important, but still...
[15:12:48] <zomg> could make it one time use only or few time use only or some other measure in it
[15:15:26] <anli> Can I use a directive defined in a parent scope?
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[15:24:52] <Pyrrhus6661> zomg, yeah, one-time should be best. I´ve given my feedback, we´re re-evaluating this scheme...
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[16:00:34] <max_at> Sounds like a classical shorturl service with one-time access restrictions. Customers will be happy if they eg. click on it and the wrong browser opens, they copy the url, close the window to open another browser - "url not valid anymore".
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[16:01:24] <max_at> In this case you could let them enter their email to have them sent another one-time-url.
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[16:01:59] <Pyrrhus6661> yeah, that´s what was discussed (among other things)
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[16:11:40] <masuberu> good afternoon, I am learning angular 5 and specially how to use observables to call my backend and show the results in a autocomplete field. Right now I am trying to understand how observables works and I got this code so far which works but I feel it is quite ugly so I would like to get some feedback from this channel https://bpaste.net/show/2fbaaaaff0b8
[16:11:53] <masuberu> so the question is "How could I improve this code"?
[16:12:46] <masuberu> and second question: how can I delay the valueChanges.subscribe call until the input field has at least 4 characters?
[16:13:54] <Pyrrhus6661> masuberu, the last one should be a simple : if(data.lenght>=4) somewhere ?
[16:15:25] <masuberu> Pyrrhus6661, what about using debounce, distinctUntilChanged and switchMap?
[16:15:52] <masuberu> I saw it in the documentation but I don't know how to use it in my example
[16:16:13] <Pyrrhus6661> masuberu, don´t know. I´d just not send a call to the backend if the input is too short.
[16:16:48] <masuberu> ok
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[16:26:07] <_ritchie_> There’s nothing quite as awesome as typescript angular 4 front end with a javascript express backend. I’ve been dying to use JS on the backend and non-JS on the front end
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[16:26:57] <Pyrrhus6661> that sound backwards, to me. as a part-time sysadmin, I´d kill anybody who tried to use js on a server...
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[16:28:08] <_ritchie_> why use JS on the front end if you’ve already used it on the backend, you don’t wanna overuse a tool because it’s one you have
[16:29:15] <Pyrrhus6661> I feel your point, but on both front- and backend there´s enough choice to avoid overuse, without using js on the server ;)
[16:30:16] <_ritchie_> I picked up a project from another developer and I honestly can’t believe they started a project using both JS & TS simultaneously
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[16:31:29] <Pyrrhus6661> if the boundary is that between client and server, it´s no biggie, no ?
[16:32:11] <_ritchie_> It’s not really a biggie it’s just one of many frustrations
[16:32:26] <_ritchie_> There is fragment of a test suite that doesn’t work
[16:32:35] <_ritchie_> And I’m not sure if the TS is properly configured
[16:32:50] <Pyrrhus6661> ah ok. those are the real frustrations, I guess :)
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[17:25:56] <_ritchie_> It honestly feels like angular 4 was written so contractors can bill more hours than if they were to use react or rails or django
[17:26:48] <_ritchie_> Every simple thing from running tests to configuring typescript leaves me rummaging through docs and stackoverflow and I’m barely even writing code
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[17:43:29] <bd-> not if you use angular-cli
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[18:11:38] <_ritchie_> right now I’m using angular CLI and my e2e tests don’t run because angular 4 won’t load in my browser unless I have redux dev tools installed
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[18:12:17] <_ritchie_> or at least however this app is configured or poorly polyfilled the development and test environments won’t load in browsers without redux devtools
[18:12:41] <SuperTyp> configure it right then? :O
[18:12:43] <_ritchie_> maybe it’s a configuration mistake someone before me made but I’m pulling my hair out trying to get through simple things
[18:12:59] <_ritchie_> I don’t have the first clue what’s wrong
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[18:13:37] <_ritchie_> thanks for your help SuperTyp
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[18:15:24] <plitter> I was sure that you could run angular on the backend (on top of node) to provide routing to different website. I'm not talking about what you put in the web page but on the server. Am I remembering it wrong?
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[18:18:39] <SuperTyp> _ritchie_: no need to be sarcastic, no body will be able to help you without you providing some code
[18:19:39] <_ritchie_> seems like it’s an error from zone.js
[18:19:42] <SuperTyp> plitter: I am not 100% sure but I think that we are doing something similar in one of our projects (but I am not involved in these)
[18:19:59] <_ritchie_> webpack-internal:///../../../../zone.js/dist/zone.js:690 Unhandled Promise rejection: Cannot read property 'apply' of null ; Zone: <root> ; Task: Promise.then ; Value: TypeError: Cannot read property 'apply' of null
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[18:23:57] <_ritchie_> I’m not even sure where to start
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[18:24:18] <_ritchie_> Looks like zone may not be used outside of tests so I’m moving to a dev dependency
[18:24:40] <plitter> SuperTyp: I was sure that I had seen it, but now when I look I basically only see Angular as a client side thing...
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[18:51:35] <wafflejock> plitter, yeah don't think angular does anything with backend stuff really closest thing I've seen to angular touching anything sort of related to backend is the ahead of time (AOT) compiler to get things built before shipping to the client (angular universal also related)
[18:53:27] <wafflejock> _ritchie_, https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/10671 I'd search around for related issues on that one
[18:53:55] <_ritchie_> wafflejock thanks
[18:54:16] <wafflejock> _ritchie_, I'm only vaguely familiar with the 2+ stuff but zone is used under the hood for keeping track of async stuff and running the apply/digest which sounds like the error is failing on for some reason but don't think you can leave it out
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[19:02:00] <plitter> wafflejock: thanks :)
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[19:18:56] <mustmodify> Can I do <html xmlns:ng="https://... " instead of http:// ?
[19:19:30] <mustmodify> Seems to work, just wondering if there are any gotchas.
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[19:49:15] <J3089TE> I am using if(httpResponse.status == 202){ ... } what is the static constant name for http codes? I don't want to hardcoded values.
[19:50:19] <bd-> they're fixed by the nature of RFCs so it's fine to hardcode them unless your abstracting over multiple transports
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[20:07:20] <mustmodify> Yeah, I mean, I don't like using the word NEVER, but http status codes are NEVER going to change.
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[20:33:04] <wviana> Hello, I'm declaring a comoponent. Placing it as required on require define array of a screen controller. Won't it load if registered just before the controller ? Should I load/register this component some time before? (angularjs 1.5.x)
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[20:37:19] <wafflejock> wviana, not really clear what you're asking there... the things being passed into a controller are injected with the $injector service, it gets all the stuff it can inject when the application bootstraps by looking at the module pointed to by ng-app and loading all the stuff into the injector so it can use that stuff later for controllers etc.
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[20:37:58] <wafflejock> not sure what you're meaning by "require" or "registered" though if you show some code (gist or whatever) would help to clarify but in general you don't want to lazy load things
[20:38:12] <wafflejock> I mean the cost of development time isn't worth the benefit for most cases
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[20:41:55] <wviana> wafflejock: So I've made a gist. https://gist.github.com/wviana/6a332af465027f961d5e3552a4260712
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[20:42:39] <wviana> wafflejock: but the project is really a mess. My main objective now is to be able to use this component element inside the html template.
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[20:50:37] <wafflejock> wviana, sorry unfamiliar with requirejs and the _registerService call that one is news to me
[20:51:18] <wafflejock> docs say you can register a service using provide in the config phase instead of using one of the provider/module api functions but not seeing anything about how _registerService is supposed to work
[20:51:22] <wafflejock> https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/services#registering-a-service-with-provide-
[20:53:44] <wviana> Sorry, this _registerService is defined on the project. (super messy as I said), I'll update the gist. Just a sec.
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[20:55:13] <wviana> wafflejock: Just updated it. _registerService is on app.js
[20:55:23] <wviana> wafflejock: https://gist.github.com/wviana/6a332af465027f961d5e3552a4260712
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[20:59:39] <wafflejock> wviana, hmm yeah so still not sure about that property "provider" on the module being a valid way of registering things... https://docs.angularjs.org/api/auto/service/$provide#provider is the closest I can find, usually you want all the providers (services factories etc) defined up front because they can be configured in the .config blocks for the application using them before they are ever created/injected into run blocks or
[20:59:40] <wafflejock> controller definitions etc.
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[21:00:52] <wafflejock> really services/factories skip the config definition stuff so in that case it won't have any properties you could configure up front so there's no technical reason this can't work but just not familiar with the proper way to do it
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[21:06:35] <IR3275> hello
[21:06:55] <Elarcis> IR3275: hello
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[21:08:22] <wviana> wafflejock: Thank you very much for helping.
[21:08:24] <IR3275> Is this channel for questions and help?
[21:08:31] <Elarcis> IR3275: it is!
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[21:08:48] <Elarcis> IR3275: both AngularJS and Angular
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[21:09:34] <wafflejock> wviana, no problem sorry I don't have a clear answer on that one let me know if you do get it resolved though always good to learn something new... ocLazyLoad is the only solution I've seen people use really but is meant for loading full modules lazily as far as I know
[21:10:14] <IR3275> ahh ok Elarcis
[21:10:47] <IR3275> Because i am new in angular, and i am following the angular.io tutorial
[21:11:32] <wviana> wafflejock: the project is declaring the controller in a stateProvider in app.js. The one that I'm trying to use on dashboad is really latter imported. I'm a kind of egg vs chicken problem. :(
[21:11:56] <wviana> It's a kind *
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[21:13:34] <IR3275> I dont understand, why the httpclient.get returns a observable
[21:13:54] <Elarcis> IR3275: you don’t understand why it returns an Observable, or what an Observable is?
[21:14:50] <IR3275> why it returns an observable
[21:15:55] <IR3275> is it because when you are waiting for a response of aremote server, you could continue working with the browser?
[21:16:56] <wafflejock> IR3275, yes in general it's a way to have callbacks triggered without blocking the thread so the ajax call can go out and when the response comes back from the server the callback is fired but other things can be happening while waiting for that response
[21:17:13] <Elarcis> IR3275: yep. HTTP calls are by nature asynchronous. JS (and thus TS) have had many ways to deal with asynchronism over the years, Observables are the current preferred method to deal with that: it represents data as streams that you can split, merge, process, etc. rather than plain query-responses.
[21:17:44] <Elarcis> IR3275: It’s a return type like another. With native JS calls, you would handle asynchronism with plain callbacks, sometimes Promises, but Angular has some middleware logic that uses Observables. Plus, an Observable can easily be converted to a Promise, so that’s a positive point
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[21:19:52] <IR3275> Thank you so much Elarcis
[21:19:55] <wafflejock> wviana, yeah have run into my fair share of those, not sure i fully understand the particulars here but never worked on a project where requirejs and angular were used together so that's throwing a wrench in my thinking too
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[22:36:17] <HeartMeeple> Does anyone using bootstrap 4 have a reliable way of setting the visibility of modals using angular?
[22:38:18] <HeartMeeple> Basically I would like to maximize a modal on component init.
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[23:02:28] <HeartMeeple> Does anyone using bootstrap 4 have a reliable way of setting the visibility of modals using angular?
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[23:07:18] <wafflejock> HeartMeeple, not enough info in your question to answer that what version of angular you using?
[23:08:20] <HeartMeeple> Angular 5.
[23:08:57] <wafflejock> k haven't used this one yet but this is the version of the bootstrap module for 5 https://ng-bootstrap.github.io/#/components/modal/examples
[23:09:36] <wafflejock> are you using that? if so what's the issue you're having?
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[23:10:14] <HeartMeeple> I am using vanilla bootstrap v4.
[23:10:41] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: The issue that I am having is that I need a coponent to optionally have a clickable link to launch the modal.
[23:11:24] <wafflejock> HeartMeeple, k well issue is bootstrap is fine for the CSS but the JS for functional parts don't play nice with angular with the regular bootstrap code (it is not written to work with any other JS framework in particular)
[23:11:37] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: So right now I have a component that can launch a modal but I can't seem to make the modal come on component load. https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.0/components/modal/
[23:12:00] <HeartMeeple> Right. I get that it isn't playing well.
[23:12:22] <davidmichaelkarr> I have a small angularjs app that runs fine on firefox, but I get syntax errors in angularjs in IE11.  I actually tried to get help on this here almost exactly a year ago, but got bogged down in issues trying to package up the error info.
[23:12:43] <wafflejock> so your options are either write your own component/directive to do what you need to do here in JS or to just use the module I linked that has it defined
[23:13:11] <davidmichaelkarr> I see the following:
[23:13:15] <davidmichaelkarr> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9kPd8AqQ/
[23:13:33] <wafflejock> you'll get more bloat and maybe less customization using the lib version but can look at how it works there for an example of how to write your own component if you need to do something differently
[23:13:41] <wafflejock> HeartMeeple, ^^
[23:13:48] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: I was going the route of writing my own component directive. It doesn't make sense to import and convert the project just because of one problem with a modal.
[23:14:03] <wafflejock> not sure what you mean by convert?
[23:14:10] <wafflejock> you shouldn't need to convert anything
[23:14:16] <wafflejock> I understand not wanting to pull in extra libs though
[23:14:30] <wafflejock> you do have tree shaking and stuff to handle the extra cruft for you though no?
[23:14:44] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: I have bootstrap all through the project. If I start bringing in new bootstrap that probably means refactoring.
[23:15:11] <wafflejock> I think it uses the same CSS and just adds components in the form of JS really... that's how it was with ui-bootstrap at least
[23:15:15] <wafflejock> for 1.x
[23:15:31] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: I don't have tree shaking.
[23:16:40] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: I'll take a look into the ng-bootstrap.
[23:17:46] <wafflejock> HeartMeeple, okay yeah otherwise you can code your own component and do what you need to do in there just good to see what's been done too
[23:18:06] <wafflejock> and chances are you'll want more things in there if you're using bootstrap
[23:18:34] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: This is literally the last UI element that isn't working.
[23:19:27] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: However I may as well look into incorporating it.
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[23:20:44] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: Thanks BTW.
[23:25:34] <wafflejock> HeartMeeple, no problem I thought treeshaking was built into the ng-cli build process already but I could easily be wrong
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[23:34:34] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: It could be. I am pretty green at this.
[23:36:09] <HeartMeeple> wafflejock: I'm also trying to do my work from behind a corporate managed network. That makes everythign a nightmare. So adding another package means that I have to get another exception from IT which results in time delay.
[23:36:46] <wafflejock> gotcha yeah been there... you can code it up yourself for sure too but would just look at the ng-bootstrap implementation for reference
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[23:39:04] <wafflejock> modal is probably one of the more complicated parts since there are services to trigger it from JS and usually want some kind of "manager" for knowing which modals are open if any etc. but you probably don't need all that complexity still worth checking their source out https://github.com/ng-bootstrap/ng-bootstrap/tree/master/src/modal
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[23:51:05] <graingert> lol modal on react is so simple
[23:51:10] <graingert> just use Portal
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