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[00:12:42] <TheG0ldenG0d> is anyone here alive ?
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[00:46:48] <cslcm2> TheG0ldenG0d: I can look at it if you zip your project and upload it somewhere
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[00:52:46] <TheG0ldenG0d> I pm'ed you a link to the zip file
[00:53:35] <cslcm2> looking at it
[00:53:57] <cslcm2> btw - angular2+ has a bit of a learning curve, but stick with it - it's worth it in the end
[00:54:12] <TheG0ldenG0d> I know. I am taking a course on Udemy based on Angular 5
[00:54:20] <cslcm2> Maximillian's one?
[00:54:25] <TheG0ldenG0d> I never learned Angular 2.X
[00:54:29] <TheG0ldenG0d> yes
[00:54:33] <cslcm2> that's good :)
[00:54:43] <cslcm2> if you can deal with his accent
[00:54:44] <cslcm2> haha
[00:54:46] <TheG0ldenG0d> yes
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[00:55:07] <TheG0ldenG0d> I know he's a bit challenging to understand sometimes
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[01:00:51] <TheG0ldenG0d> so have you figured out why my app wont render the image ?
[01:00:55] <cslcm2> TheG0ldenG0d: Step 1 - move the images folder outside of app
[01:01:01] <cslcm2> so it's src/images
[01:01:03] <TheG0ldenG0d> outside ?
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[01:01:16] <cslcm2> Step 2: Change the url in the image tag to images/IntranetHeader.png
[01:01:32] <cslcm2> Step 3: in .angular-cli.json, add "images" to the "assets" array
[01:01:36] <cslcm2> so it copies the images folder to the build
[01:02:37] <TheG0ldenG0d> ok i did that and its still not rendering the image
[01:02:51] <cslcm2> you did all three?
[01:02:54] <TheG0ldenG0d> yes
[01:03:05] <cslcm2> where is your /images folder now?
[01:03:09] <TheG0ldenG0d> does it work for you
[01:03:13] <TheG0ldenG0d> src/images/
[01:03:24] <TheG0ldenG0d> well src\images\ since im on windows
[01:03:37] <TheG0ldenG0d> do you still use / in angular for file paths
[01:03:44] <cslcm2> FYI / works on windows too
[01:03:46] <cslcm2> and the url in logo.component.html?
[01:03:57] <TheG0ldenG0d> <img src="images/IntranetHeader.png" alt="no image">
[01:04:06] <TheG0ldenG0d> still shows no image
[01:04:08] <cslcm2> and your "assets" array?
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[01:14:01] <TheG0ldenG0d> I added "images" to that file
[01:15:12] <cslcm2> in the right place? :)
[01:15:16] <cslcm2> sorry if i seem condescending
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[01:15:21] <cslcm2> just trying to help
[01:16:04] <TheG0ldenG0d> yes
[01:19:33] <irssi_> TheG0ldenG0d:
[01:19:34] <irssi_> omg
[01:19:40] <irssi_> u ditched me?
[01:19:48] <cslcm2> got it working, ner ner
[01:20:24] <TheG0ldenG0d> oh hey irssi_ I didnt ditch you
[01:20:36] <cslcm2> ok bbl
[01:20:46] <irssi_> lol
[01:20:56] <irssi_> \ is only for windows fs
[01:21:05] <irssi_> internet is always /
[01:21:33] <irssi_> what is this assets crap
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[01:23:28] <irssi_> i dont have assets
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[01:33:21] <cslcm2> irssi_: apps/assets in .angular-cli.json defines what to copy to the build folder
[01:34:51] <irssi_> oh right i have that
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[01:58:06] <irssi_> man the agnular : filter is crazy
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[02:01:29] <irssi_> help me jesus
[02:01:47] <irssi_> argh
[02:02:03] *** cslcm2 is now known as Jesus^
[02:02:04] <Jesus^> yes?
[02:02:06] <Jesus^> ;)
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[02:02:25] <cslcm> what's up
[02:02:34] <irssi_> u cant help me
[02:02:37] <irssi_> its too hard
[02:02:48] <cslcm> suit yourself
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[02:07:31] <irssi_> i will defeat angular
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[02:30:40] <irssi_> umm
[02:30:51] <irssi_> oh
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[02:38:21] <irssi_> who the hell is aria
[02:38:32] <irssi_> i keep seeing her name in the html
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[02:59:31] <cslcm> WAI-ARIA, the Accessible Rich Internet Applications specification from the W3C's Web Accessibility Initiative
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[08:49:18] <icebox> hey folks
[08:50:08] <Tazmain> o/ icebox
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[08:59:34] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
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[09:02:27] <icebox> 12 Things to Help Large Organizations Do Angular Right - https://blog.nrwl.io/12-things-to-help-large-organizations-do-angular-right-f261a798ad6b
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[09:04:07] <ngWalrus> why don't large companies just write vanilla js
[09:04:18] <ngWalrus> because compilation is for dumb dumbs
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[09:06:31] <ngWalrus> but pretty good link icebox
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[09:12:32] <SuperTyp> hi all
[09:12:34] <icebox> ngWalrus: it is nice to compare opinions :)
[09:12:37] <SuperTyp> hi all
[09:12:39] <icebox> SuperTyp: hey
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[09:13:02] <ngWalrus> how is angular performance nowadays
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[09:13:36] <xhd> Good morning ANGULAR family!
[09:14:01] <icebox> xhd: hey
[09:14:43] <ngWalrus> seems to be mostly better than react 15 with redux
[09:14:52] <ngWalrus> https://medium.com/unicorn-supplies/angular-vs-react-vs-vue-a-2017-comparison-c5c52d620176 according to thi
[09:15:02] <Pyrrhus6661> morning #angularjs
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[09:15:18] <icebox> Pyrrhus6661: hey
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[09:30:30] <Tatsh> hi, i created a directory src/lib and it seems to never get watched by ng serve. How do I ensure it gets watched? Anything in src/app works fine.
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[09:32:09] <SuperTyp> hi xhd :)
[09:32:18] <SuperTyp> morning Pyrrhus6661
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[09:32:47] <Pyrrhus> morning SuperTyp
[09:32:56] <SuperTyp> Tatsh: move it inside your app :>
[09:33:26] <ray02> hello hello
[09:33:29] <ray02> morning
[09:33:33] <Tatsh> i can't have it outside?
[09:33:45] <Tatsh> my config says everything src will be watched
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[09:35:41] <SuperTyp> which build tool?
[09:35:47] <Tatsh> ng serve
[09:36:14] <SuperTyp> thats a commad =)
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[09:36:22] <SuperTyp> so angular cli
[09:36:33] <SargoDarya> Morning folks
[09:36:43] <SuperTyp> morning SargoDarya
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[09:37:00] <icebox> SargoDarya: hey
[09:37:05] <Pyrrhus> morning SargoDarya
[09:37:06] <SuperTyp> Tatsh: can you show us your config?
[09:37:40] <SargoDarya> Always feels like home in here
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[09:37:56] <Tatsh> SuperTyp, http://dpaste.com/34GMFWQ
[09:38:43] <SuperTyp> SargoDarya: ikr
[09:39:32] <icebox> Tatsh: https://github.com/angular/angular-cli/issues/5679
[09:39:51] <SuperTyp> Tatsh: I am not 100% sure as I don't use angular cli, but maybe you need to add lib to assets
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[09:42:24] <Tatsh> icebox, my root seems correct and the relative path seems ok
[09:42:40] <Tatsh> i am wondering what controls the directories to watch?
[09:42:53] <Tatsh> src/app works for me but not src/lib; i want all of src/
[09:43:03] <Tatsh> or just src/app and src/lib
[09:43:15] <icebox> Tatsh: no... the point is another... did you tweak manually the config? "If you want to make a new app with a different root directory (ng new my-proj --source-dir=src/angular), we change all values for you."
[09:43:45] <icebox> Tatsh: if that doesn't work, it is a bug and feel free to fill an issue
[09:44:17] <icebox> Tatsh: but here it works :)
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[09:55:42] <etrapp> Hello
[09:56:19] <icebox> etrapp: please, no private message
[09:56:23] <icebox> etrapp: hey
[09:56:39] <etrapp> Sorry
[09:56:44] <icebox> etrapp: no problem
[09:57:05] <etrapp> @icebox: I successfully used npm link, but I have another "problem"
[09:57:11] <icebox> etrapp: nice
[09:57:15] <SargoDarya> xD
[09:57:21] <SuperTyp> :D
[09:58:42] <icebox> etrapp: any detail? or do we need to read your mind? :)
[09:59:13] <etrapp> now when I'm importing something from my common module I have to specified full path where my "index.ts" (file which export all things I need) is, for example "my-module/common/src". Is it possible to only specify "my-common" when importing without move my "index.ts" file ? I already tried "main" value of "package.json" without success...
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[09:59:45] <etrapp> @icebox: Sorry I was writing x)
[09:59:51] <icebox> etrapp: :P
[10:01:05] <icebox> etrapp: the answer is yes and no... that depends on your bundling workflow... for instance, webpack allows resolving "alias"
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[10:01:25] <icebox> etrapp: https://webpack.js.org/configuration/resolve/
[10:02:39] <icebox> etrapp: also see https://decembersoft.com/posts/say-goodbye-to-relative-paths-in-typescript-imports/
[10:02:47] <etrapp> I use angular-cli, does I need to eject webpack config?
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[10:03:55] <icebox> etrapp: I am not used with angular-cli, so I have no idea how to integrate that hint in your workflow... you should try it
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[10:06:04] <etrapp> icebox: ok thanks, I'll try
[10:06:44] <icebox> etrapp: https://github.com/angular/angular-cli/issues/6282
[10:07:18] <icebox> etrapp: "Typescript provides extensive path mapping support. Scroll down to the path mapping section here: https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/module-resolution.html"
[10:07:28] <etrapp> last question, the npm link step cannot be integrated to package.json or another thing in order that all other developpers can easy get the project and work with without doing this trick?
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[10:09:38] <icebox> etrapp: I don't think it would be a good practice creating npm link automatically... that depends on the project layout of the local machine and it should be in charge of the developer how to organize the development workflow
[10:10:11] <etrapp> icebox: I think it is the solution I used before npm link, but the problem is my IDE reports errors and can't resolve my common module "Cannot find module '@my/common'". I tried with Webstorm and VSCode
[10:10:43] <icebox> etrapp: add a note to the README how you organized the developement of the package with respect to the deps
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[10:16:03] <icebox> etrapp: I think you should configure better your editor... :) it seems you have a few open tasks... good work :) https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/26472
[10:18:22] <icebox> etrapp: I am sorry if I am quite vague, but giving a concrete help on the setup it is quite hard because there are huhndreds of configuratiion and rolling parts :) and we have not your local machine under control :)
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[10:18:41] <icebox> *hundereds of configurations
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[10:25:35] <etrapp> icebox: yes I understand, thanks for your help
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[10:32:21] <Elarcis> yoo
[10:33:24] <cslcm> greetings earthling
[10:38:05] <DieguezZ> hi, i dont know why the expectOne is failing https://stackblitz.com/edit/angularjs-irc-starter-cgfvrg?file=app/test.service.spec.ts anyway, i cannot reproduce it there because i dont know how to launch tests in stackblitz. I get an error as if the endpoint was not called `xpected one matching request for criteria .. found none` any ideas?
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[10:41:38] <cslcm> got the full error?
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[10:43:45] <DieguezZ> cslcm https://prnt.sc/i1ljib
[10:44:57] <DieguezZ> i also tried with injector instead of Testbed.get()
[10:45:02] <cslcm> and your operator.service.spec.ts?
[10:45:25] <DieguezZ> is what i shared in stackblitz, but i changed names
[10:45:36] <DieguezZ> to simplify it
[10:45:43] <cslcm> oh sorry
[10:45:47] <cslcm> i just woke up >.<
[10:45:50] <DieguezZ> but i can share you the real code
[10:46:06] <DieguezZ> https://kopy.io/k6azE
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[10:46:53] <DieguezZ> i am just upgrading to @angular/http to @angular/common/http and all tests broke
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[10:47:33] <DieguezZ> so i am rewriting them in the new way but some of them... like this one... dont work
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[10:49:11] <DieguezZ> i also tried using it('foo', inject([OperatorService], (service: OperatorsService)) => {})
[10:50:12] <cslcm> when do you actually make the request?
[10:50:23] <DieguezZ> in the service
[10:50:38] <cslcm> could you pastebin that too?
[10:50:45] <DieguezZ> sure
[10:51:28] <DieguezZ> https://kopy.io/GV7PI
[10:52:57] <cslcm> and you have verified that apiURL exactly matches operatorsApiUrlTest/685443322, and that the request actually fires, and doesn't fire more than once?
[10:53:25] <DieguezZ> yes totally
[10:53:45] <DieguezZ> let me show you
[10:55:53] <cslcm> (i'll brb)
[10:56:14] <DieguezZ> https://prnt.sc/i1lphp
[10:56:21] <DieguezZ> thats the real url
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[10:58:57] <Pyrrhus666> looks like one of mine, sort of ;)
[11:01:54] <cslcm> that's not the same, is operatorsApiUrlTest a variable that's being provided as a string maybe?
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[11:02:10] <cslcm> variable name*
[11:02:26] <DieguezZ> yeah, you were right cslcm but i fixed that and still happens
[11:02:42] <DieguezZ> i didnt realise it was used in the constant instead of environment variable
[11:02:51] <cslcm> well also 666666* is not 685443322, does this change ever run
[11:02:53] <cslcm> every run*
[11:03:28] <DieguezZ> well, the demo i sent was with a different number haha, but its the same.. it will place as number what you pass to the function
[11:03:53] <cslcm> okay can you show me the new error output
[11:04:17] <DieguezZ> https://prnt.sc/i1ltag
[11:05:04] <DieguezZ> and here the error https://prnt.sc/i1ltoe
[11:05:21] <cslcm> api.dev != api.canary
[11:05:23] <DieguezZ> here uses dev, because i did the test in a different environment
[11:05:27] <cslcm> ok
[11:05:40] <cslcm> does api.dev still use https in both cases?
[11:05:51] <DieguezZ> yes
[11:06:29] <cslcm> can you stick a console.log on the http request just so it shows in the same error log
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[11:11:57] <DieguezZ> wow, now its working lol !! xD i think i had to subscribe to the result
[11:12:32] <cslcm> glad to hear it :)
[11:12:58] <DieguezZ> just when i set the console.log, i set one when you call the promise (in the service) and the second one inside the subscription to checkOperator
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[11:13:30] <cslcm> TBH
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[11:13:39] <cslcm> you shouldn't actually need to subscribe to the result
[11:13:44] <cslcm> the http request still fires
[11:14:03] <cslcm> maybe it failed to rebuild before when you changed the URL? I don't know
[11:15:46] <DieguezZ> well, i am testing wit and without the subscribe... and it works with it and not without it
[11:15:51] <DieguezZ> its really weird
[11:16:04] <DieguezZ> like this...
[11:16:15] <cslcm> hm, possibly it's a limitation i've never come across
[11:16:16] <DieguezZ> operatorsService.checkOperator(phoneNumber).subscribe(() => {})
[11:16:27] <DieguezZ> if i remove subscribe(() => {})
[11:16:29] <DieguezZ> it breaks xD
[11:16:47] <cslcm> and checkOperator just returns an observable?
[11:16:55] <DieguezZ> yep
[11:17:01] <cslcm> weird
[11:17:10] <cslcm> I wasn't aware of that
[11:17:19] <DieguezZ> its like.. maybe i can open an issue
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[11:17:30] <cslcm> wellllll
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[11:17:42] <cslcm> not subscribing to the result of an http request should probably be considered an error anyway
[11:17:52] <cslcm> but it should probably be documented
[11:18:52] <DieguezZ> https://angular.io/api/common/http/testing/HttpTestingController#expectOne
[11:19:03] <DieguezZ> maybe the key point is: "and return its mock"
[11:19:12] <DieguezZ> not only to be called
[11:19:56] <cslcm> no that means that expectOne returns the TestRequest
[11:20:27] <cslcm> i'd say, check that an issue doesn't already exist, and if not, file one - it should at the least be documented
[11:20:36] <cslcm> if not fixed entirely
[11:20:58] <DieguezZ> mm you are right
[11:21:15] <cslcm> oh wait, hang on
[11:21:20] <cslcm> there is a logic issue here
[11:21:35] <cslcm> if you are not subscribing to the http request, how are you waiting for it to complete before running the test
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[11:23:27] <DieguezZ> thats interesting, i dont know how async works here because for example this one works fine https://kopy.io/TTrli and i'd say that res will always be {}, but its the way i saw in docs... and works
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[11:30:47] <cslcm> DieguezZ: AFAIK the only way that example will work without being a race condition is if the service is mocked by MockRespond, which returns synchronously
[11:31:46] <DieguezZ> isnt that from MockBackend which is deprecated?
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[11:34:32] <cslcm> You're right (tbh I haven't ran any tests myself with HttpClient so i'm reading up)
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[11:38:02] <cslcm> "HttpClient.post, unlike Http.post, seems to be a cold observable; you need to subscribe for the request to actually take place."
[11:38:06] <cslcm> there you go
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[11:38:32] <cslcm> seems batshit crazy to me
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[11:38:34] <cslcm> but whatever
[11:39:09] <Elarcis> cslcm: wait, there are actually Observables that fire without calling subscribe() ?
[11:39:52] <cslcm> Elarcis: No but there are methods which run without their returned observable being subscribed to :)
[11:40:48] <cslcm> the thing that seems batshit to me is that HttpClient.post has a different behaviour to Http.post, when it's supposed to be mocking it
[11:41:36] <cslcm> and also seems to be undocumented
[11:43:06] <cslcm> erm, i mean testingclient
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[11:45:16] <Elarcis> cslcm: ah
[11:45:31] <Elarcis> cslcm: haven’t used Observables yet, only read about them
[11:46:07] <cslcm> They're handy, though most of the time i just use Subjects
[11:47:05] <Pyrrhus666> to me, subjects feels like old-skool reference-sharing (in a good way)
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[11:55:30] <SuperTyp> when I slice my array in ngFor will isLast return true for the sliced last object?
[11:56:12] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: does ngFor handle the sliced array, or the array before it is sliced?
[11:56:28] <SuperTyp> ngFor
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[11:56:55] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: that’s almost the only answer that doesn’t work, along with "yes"
[11:56:57] <SuperTyp> like: *ngFor="let item of objects | slice: 0:3;"
[11:57:13] <cslcm> yes isLast will return true
[11:57:17] <cslcm> in that case
[11:57:29] <SuperTyp> ok, another question regarding isLast
[11:57:32] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: have you tried it? to me it seems obvious that it will, but if you’re asking, you must have some issue
[11:57:54] <SuperTyp> is "isLast" available even if I dont do this: "let object of objects; last as isLast" ?
[11:58:02] <SuperTyp> Elarcis: yes I tried it
[11:58:07] <SuperTyp> and its not working
[11:59:09] <cslcm> no isLast isn't available unless you create it
[11:59:17] <cslcm> isLast can be any name you choose
[12:00:02] <cslcm> "last" is the property, "isLast" is the reference
[12:00:36] <SuperTyp> thank you
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[12:40:13] <SuperTyp> defining "last as Last" in *ngFor works when I use isLast then, but using last has no effect
[12:40:19] <SuperTyp> (undefined)
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[13:38:56] <icebox> back
[13:39:00] <icebox> SuperTyp: resolved?
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[13:56:43] <SuperTyp> well using isLast yes
[13:56:51] <SuperTyp> but I am working with index now
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[14:07:15] <J3089TE> hi, I have to make an web app for two type of users. Sellers and Buyers. What is recommended? Should I make one single app for both? Or one app per role?
[14:08:00] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, I´d probably do one app with 2 main routes that lazy-loads 2 modules
[14:08:08] <Pyrrhus666> but ymmv
[14:10:00] <icebox> J3089TE: it depends on the business requirements, architecture and app design, and so on... what is your concern?
[14:10:40] <J3089TE> icebox: I am afraid when doing in a single app it will make the code base complicated.
[14:10:48] <J3089TE> and hence not maintainable.
[14:11:08] <Pyrrhus666> hence separate modules
[14:11:11] <J3089TE> I think 2 module should do it.
[14:12:13] <Pyrrhus666> I have a similar app with 3 modules, one public, two behind auth for different roles. works a charm and even lets me shared some components between the three
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[14:13:54] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: how can I let the modules communicate with each other?
[14:14:32] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, via services, for example. it´s still all the same app
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[14:17:07] <J3089TE> where should I define the routes? in the main app? or in the module?
[14:17:13] <Pyrrhus666> (although come to think of it : since they serve separate purposes, that never happens. which is why I made them lazy-loaded)
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[14:24:50] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, both, actually ;)
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[14:28:34] <J3089TE> thanks for the info.
[14:28:50] <Tazmain> Hi all, if I am doing a form with angularjs. and I have <input type="text" class="form-control" placeholder="987654" ng-model="assetTag" /> do I need to add 'assetTag' in the controller as a scope variable? so that I can use it in a function later on ?
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[14:29:41] <cslcm> Tazmain: It's good practice to define it, but you don't have to - it'll get created automatically
[14:30:00] <Tazmain> so I can do $scope.myvar = null ; ?
[14:30:14] <cslcm> $scope.assetTag = null; yes
[14:30:40] <cslcm> note though that an empty field will cause it to undefine
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[14:33:02] <Tazmain> so $scope.assetTag ; will be undefined
[14:33:29] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: problem here. Module cannot be used as an entry component.
[14:33:40] <J3089TE> in the app module I have bootstrap: [AppComponent, BuyerModule]
[14:33:54] <J3089TE> in the buyer module I have this: { path: 'buyer/dashboard', component: DashboardComponent, canActivate: [AuthGuard] }
[14:33:57] <cslcm> yes, if it's a string you should do if ($scope.assetTag) {} to check if it exists before using it
[14:34:24] <J3089TE> http://localhost:4200/buyer/dashboard gives error BuyerModule cannot be used as an entry component.
[14:34:41] <J3089TE> or should I define the route in th app module?
[14:35:49] <Tazmain> okay another question with the drop downs. <select ng-model="Requirement" ng-options="x for x in requirements" ng-change="selectedItemChanged()" class="form-control"></select> if I want to react to a change, do I need to match on the text of the items in the drop down ?
[14:36:17] <Tazmain> I am doing a console.log on Requirement and it gives me the text
[14:36:37] <cslcm> Tazmain: do you not specify value= on the options?
[14:36:54] <Tazmain> erm. I defined it as modalScope.requirements = ['Reload Package', 'New Student', 'Swop Device'];
[14:36:55] <cslcm> oh nvm
[14:37:05] <cslcm> then yes you'll need to match the text
[14:37:30] <cslcm> alternatively, define it as
[14:38:10] <cslcm> [{'somekey1: 'Reload Package'},{'somekey2: New Student'},{'somekey3: 'Swop Device'}]
[14:38:27] <cslcm> and use ng-options="key as value for (key , value) in modalScope.requirements"
[14:38:37] <cslcm> but i use ng-repeat
[14:38:44] <cslcm> rather than ng-options
[14:38:55] <Tazmain> from what I saw ng-options was better in a sense
[14:39:12] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: nvm, I solved it already :-)
[14:39:56] <cslcm> Tazmain: It's better in that it doesn't add two watches for every option, but with ng-repeat you can avoid that by using ::key and ::value
[14:40:06] <cslcm> but either approach works :)
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[14:40:21] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, OK :)
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[14:40:30] <Tazmain> oh didn't know that, was not in the w3schools unless I missed it
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[14:41:03] * cslcm shudders
[14:41:20] <icebox> Tazmain: w3schools?
[14:42:21] <Tazmain> https://www.w3schools.com/angular/angular_forms.asp was what I found on google when I wanted to see how to do a form in angular
[14:43:17] <cslcm> that particular article may be fine, but really w3schools is not a good source of info :( the articles are regularly out of date and in some cases actually insecure
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[14:43:48] <Tazmain> It was the only source I could find that explained what I was looking for
[14:49:33] <Pyrrhus666> the whole thing is out of date because that´s angularjs, not angular ;)
[14:50:46] <cslcm> Agreed Pyrrhus666 but.. angular is a steeeep learning curve for a lot of people
[14:51:17] <Tazmain> I like angular more than angularjs
[14:51:20] <icebox> Tazmain: terrible choice... please read the official guide, explore the sources, and experiment with the code
[14:51:22] <Tazmain> but forced to go back
[14:51:26] <Pyrrhus666> cslcm, yeah, it was for me too, glad that´s over ;)
[14:51:36] <Tazmain> icebox, time limit :(
[14:51:41] <cslcm> i prefer angular too, actually it got me writing all my javascript code in typescript
[14:51:50] <cslcm> because it's just so much nicer to work with
[14:51:53] <Tazmain> its sooooo much nicer
[14:52:03] <icebox> Tazmain: no excuses :) when you invest on knowledge
[14:52:28] <icebox> Tazmain: learn to learn faster
[14:52:38] <Tazmain> icebox, I doubt my work place will see it that way when there is a number of hours set on a story that needs to tick off
[14:53:49] <Tazmain> icebox, this project makes that difficult. seems the thing here was, we will apply patterns for the sake of having patterns. or how you can turn a fizzbuzz implmentation into this https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition#fizzbuzzenterpriseedition
[14:53:49] <Tazmain>
[14:53:49] <Tazmain>
[14:53:53] <icebox> Tazmain: totally disagree
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[14:54:12] <Tazmain> icebox, how so? Just increase the number of hours for the story ?
[14:54:30] <cslcm> a few extra hours is better than days of technical debt :)
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[14:54:58] <Tazmain> cslcm, I fully agree with you. Tell that to my project manager in my scrum team (just let that sink in )
[14:55:03] <Tazmain> well agile *
[14:55:06] <icebox> Tazmain: are you saying your manager chooses a person not qualified for that task without any formation?
[14:55:09] <Pyrrhus666> depends on who will pay for that debt, if you´re evil enough
[14:55:24] <Tazmain> Pyrrhus666, noone its left in the system
[14:55:31] <Tazmain> this system is in prod, and no code reviews happen
[14:55:52] <icebox> Tazmain: please, don't say you are following a project methodolgy if you don't aplly the basics :)
[14:55:56] <icebox> *apply
[14:55:56] <cslcm> then your scrum manager aint doin scrum
[14:56:15] <icebox> cslcm: totally agree :)
[14:56:17] <Tazmain> icebox, well that is what is happening here, only now is there a product owner
[14:56:28] <zomg> we are doing scum
[14:56:30] <icebox> Tazmain: that is pure mess
[14:56:33] <Tazmain> so yeah.... I do not agree with how things are doing
[14:56:35] <zomg> at least our board in JIRA is called "scum board"
[14:56:37] <icebox> Tazmain: good luck
[14:56:37] <zomg> :D
[14:56:43] <cslcm> scum board? ahah
[14:56:46] <Tazmain> icebox, YUP , that is why I don't get time for stuff.
[14:56:53] <icebox> Tazmain: I see
[14:56:55] <Tazmain> we use visual studio for a board
[14:56:56] <zomg> yeah it might actually be that I purposefully typed "scrum" wrong when I created the board
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[14:57:49] <Tazmain> icebox, like not much of the stuff is done correctly. especially not the angularjs in this. I am slowly fixing it when I can. or push back. but then I am the only one that does. with no code reviews noone else follows what I do.
[14:58:12] <zomg> raise the issue
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[14:58:31] <zomg> we need to spend X hours of time more on task Y because Z isn't being done
[14:58:36] <zomg> "but Z takes time"
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[14:58:43] <zomg> yes but we need N more hours on X because Z wasn't done
[14:58:51] <cslcm> A lot of team development is politics. You have to phrase things right. Instead of "i need longer to do this", say "I can save us a lot of time in the long run by doing this"
[14:59:28] <cslcm> e.g "I can save us a lot of time in the long run by getting a pay rise"
[14:59:34] <zomg> lol
[14:59:43] <zomg> or just don't ask and do it
[14:59:46] <cslcm> ok, maybe not that :)
[15:00:08] <SargoDarya> Who would've thought, sending Midi Out events in Unreal Engine is actually hard.
[15:00:14] <Pyrrhus666> I´m so glad I´m not in a team
[15:00:34] <zomg> I'm so glad that I'm not timid like many devs seem to be
[15:00:44] <zomg> and if I see an issue I'll damn well bring it up and argue it until I get to fix it
[15:00:47] <zomg> :D
[15:00:53] <Tazmain> cslcm, lol
[15:01:03] <cslcm> we're reclusive, shady people
[15:01:07] <cslcm> do not open the curtains
[15:01:15] <Tazmain> so if I have <input type="text" class="form-control" maxlength="6" placeholder="987654" ng-model="assetTag" />, it doesn't seem that assetTag when I use $scope.assetTag gets filled in
[15:01:18] <Pyrrhus666> zomg, I probably would too, but this way I don´t need agileascrumsprintsstories.
[15:01:19] <zomg> eh that's what you say
[15:01:26] <zomg> but actually it's just an old ladies club
[15:01:34] <zomg> seeing devs complain about their teams and projects and whatnot
[15:01:37] <zomg> you know what it reminds me?
[15:01:48] <Pyrrhus666> well ?
[15:01:48] <cslcm> mechahitler?
[15:01:49] <zomg> my mom talking shit about her annoying coworkers behind their backs
[15:01:51] <zomg> who all do the same
[15:01:53] <zomg> lol
[15:02:05] <cslcm> everyone slags off their workmates
[15:02:24] <Pyrrhus666> I have coworkers, I actually like them, but fortunately we´re all doing our own projects.
[15:02:32] <zomg> I've never seen anyone talk shit as much about their coworkers as women in a mostly-women oriented workplace
[15:02:48] <zomg> I don't want to generalize but that's how I've seen it :P
[15:02:49] <cslcm> Tazmain: Instead of using just $scope.assetTag try $scope.someObject.assetTag
[15:03:03] <Tazmain> cslcm, I was trying to send something I never defined.
[15:03:14] <zomg> and that's pretty much what I see devs do, talk shit and gossip about their shitty projects
[15:03:22] <zomg> then when I ask them.. why don't you do something about it then
[15:03:25] <zomg> it just kinda fizzes out
[15:03:36] <zomg> just like when I ask my mom why doesn't she do something about all this perceived injustice in her workplace
[15:03:38] <zomg> :D
[15:03:48] <cslcm> I agree, but in many situations it's a junior dev and a project lead who hasn't got a clue
[15:04:19] <cslcm> you can't start forcing things on your superiors if you wanna keep your job
[15:04:20] <zomg> yeah the "but I'm just a X" talk is nonsense
[15:04:43] <zomg> you're not forcing anything because guess what that's not how people work
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[15:04:51] <zomg> maybe children
[15:04:55] <zomg> but adults can usually discuss things :P
[15:05:08] <cslcm> Usually, but it's not always the case
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[15:05:18] <cslcm> yes in a functional well-run team, people should listen to each other
[15:05:39] <cslcm> but you're living in a dream world man, a communication utopia
[15:05:44] <zomg> honestly I don't know why every time I suggest trying to improve things in your workplace
[15:05:51] <zomg> this is basically the instant response
[15:05:56] <zomg> "well obviously your workplace is perfect"
[15:06:07] <zomg> "my workplace is awful and obviously you've always worked only in perfect jobs"
[15:06:13] <zomg> uhm okay you're just making excuses now :P
[15:06:16] <cslcm> my workplace is fine lol i'm a contractor
[15:06:29] <zomg> yeah but you're basically saying exactly the same thing everyone always says :)
[15:06:46] <zomg> it's either that or the "I'm just a jr dev" or stuff like that
[15:06:46] <replman> Hi! I have a registration form which on submit loads a different page. If the registration fails, the browser is redirected to the registration form. I would like to prefill the registration fields with the values previously entered. Now the user sees an empty form...
[15:07:13] <cslcm> because being a contractor i've worked in many many different teams - i've seen dysfunctional teams who are run by egomaniacs, and i've seen very well run functional teams
[15:07:35] <zomg> usually the well run functional teams don't start as such
[15:07:37] <cslcm> replman: Okay, how are you doing that? Can you post some code?
[15:07:44] <zomg> neither will they remain as such if nobody works towards that goal
[15:08:04] <cslcm> you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
[15:08:10] <zomg> there seems to be some kind of implicit assumption that it's always someone else's job to ensure the team works well or the project is good
[15:08:25] <cslcm> well that *is* kinda the point of the project manager
[15:08:43] <replman> it is just a <form action=... method=post>. The route then returns a 302 redirect back to /register?failure=true
[15:08:46] <zomg> and you think if the whole team is full of slackers who can't be arsed to do shit
[15:08:51] <zomg> a project manager will somehow alone fix it?
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[15:08:59] <zomg> maybe by getting everyoen fired and getting a new team...
[15:09:00] <zomg> :P
[15:09:11] <cslcm> replman: We need something, let's start with... which version of angular are you using? :)
[15:09:17] <replman> i'm wondering how to store data to reuse it when the user enters the page again
[15:09:45] <replman> angular 5.0.0
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[15:09:52] <cslcm> okay so my question is
[15:10:05] <cslcm> why are you changing pages at all
[15:10:15] <replman> it's angular 5.1
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[15:10:24] <cslcm> you should be doing the registration via http in angular, not changing pages
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[15:11:04] <cslcm> user fills out the form, use HttpClient to send off the registration, if it fails, the form is still there filled in
[15:11:29] <cslcm> but to answer your question directly, you could store the data in a service
[15:11:48] <replman> Yes, i tried it that way. But the signup route returns with a 302 redirect on success. And httpclient cannot catch this to send the browser to that url. afaik httpclient automatically follows redirects
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[15:12:35] <cslcm> it also redirects on failure?
[15:12:46] <replman> yes
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[15:13:14] <cslcm> okay
[15:13:34] <cslcm> in that case you probably need to store the data in a cookie, but *DO NOT* store the user password in the cookie
[15:13:35] <replman> i thought about storing the form data in a cookie?
[15:14:00] <replman> Sure, i would never store the password in a cookie :-)
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[15:14:36] <replman> what's the best practice storing and reading cookies in angular 5.1.x?
[15:14:56] <cslcm> ngx-cookie works well for me
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[15:15:04] <replman> thanks!
[15:15:11] <cslcm> I take it you have no control or say over the endpoint?
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[15:18:38] <cslcm> replman: out of interest how is the redirect actually authenticating the user? Is this OAuth2?
[15:18:50] <replman> yes
[15:18:59] <replman> passport and oauth2
[15:19:07] <cslcm> if it's OAuth2 the registration should be handled by /their/ end, not yours
[15:19:33] <cslcm> the login and registration form should be served by the oauth provider
[15:20:30] <replman> i'm working on a local oauth provider :-)
[15:21:12] <replman> the user registers, then internally the user is created, authenticated by the local oauth and redirected
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[15:22:09] <cslcm> then you shouldn't need to do any redirecting until the user is actually authenticated, surely?
[15:22:20] <cslcm> but nvm i'll stop nagging :P
[15:22:26] <Tazmain> modals can go do work and talk to web controllers before closing right ?
[15:23:30] <cslcm> Tazmain: what's a modal? (I mean, which npm module are you using for it)
[15:24:01] <Tazmain> npm,. haha, awh I wish .
[15:24:46] <cslcm> Tazmain: do you mean ui-bootstrap modals
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[15:24:55] <Tazmain> yeah
[15:25:03] <Tazmain> that is what is used here I think
[15:25:08] <cslcm> then yes those are just controllers
[15:25:16] <Elarcis> Tazmain: depends which modals, but behind visuals is JS code, you can make it do anything before, and even after, the modal closes.
[15:25:25] <cslcm> you can do any amount of work in the controller before closing the dialog
[15:25:54] <Tazmain> ah well then I need to figure out what other code is executing and then canceling my request.
[15:26:03] <Tazmain> and there is no async js in this so its weird
[15:26:33] <cslcm> cancelling your request?
[15:27:01] <Tazmain> yeah I am doing a post to a api and it gets cancelled by something
[15:27:10] <cslcm> can you post your controller code?
[15:27:24] <cslcm> and how do you know it gets cancelled
[15:27:46] <Tazmain> I see in the network trace, in chrome its red and says cancelled.
[15:28:07] <cslcm> alright, that implies that the controller was closed before the request completed
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[15:28:45] <Tazmain> yeah. its trying to open some page that does not exit,. some call.
[15:30:02] <Tazmain> here is the controller, service, and parent controller that opens this modal https://bpaste.net/show/4df452935b1c
[15:30:32] <cslcm> the issue occurs in SubmitForm?
[15:30:51] <Tazmain> no with FindAsset
[15:31:02] <Tazmain> but I think if I just leave the modal open something still happens
[15:31:31] <Tazmain> Taht submitForm is for a different chunk . I haven't written the submit yet
[15:32:10] <Tazmain> chrome doesn't seem to debug the modal controller well. I just see blank and no code
[15:32:26] <Tazmain> so line 17
[15:33:08] <Tazmain> In firefox I can't even open the modal so that might explain some stuff
[15:34:12] <cslcm> In AssetInfoController, how does it complete?
[15:34:17] <cslcm> is there a button on the template?
[15:34:33] <Tazmain> yeah. but I am not trying to complete it yet
[15:35:23] <Tazmain> I will get to the save later, just trying to find stuff now
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[15:37:05] <Tazmain> Do I have to use ng-submit? Can't I just use a button with a function ?
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[15:37:57] <cslcm> okay
[15:38:08] <cslcm> which request is it that gets cancelled?
[15:38:14] <Tazmain> the findAsset
[15:38:49] <cslcm> FindAsset() is called from the template?
[15:38:49] <Pyrrhus666> OT : https://hackernoon.com/redesigning-hawaiis-emergy-alert-interface-in-the-open-91c6318a7045?b9
[15:39:24] <Tazmain> yeah
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[15:39:30] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: I need help. :-(
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[15:39:53] <J3089TE> I have two modules. Public and Buyer. the routes of Buyer works. But the routes for Public don't
[15:40:18] <Tazmain> cslcm, so the template has a button that is hooked up to FindAsset()
[15:40:22] <J3089TE> when I try the home page, it says page not found as in route not found
[15:40:40] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, something fishy with the app-level routes to those modules ?
[15:40:54] <J3089TE> I am using this to make it work https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47353218/multiple-modules-and-routing-in-angular-5
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[15:41:10] <cslcm> Tazmain: when the request cancels, does the modal close?
[15:41:32] <Tazmain> cslcm, nope. But soon after the whole site goes to a page that does not exist
[15:41:36] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, that looks okay at first glance
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[15:42:04] <cslcm> Tazmain: Oh. Requests get cancelled on navigation.
[15:42:21] <Tazmain> cslcm, well I can't figure out what is causing the navigation then
[15:42:36] <Tazmain> It triggers by itself. And firefox won't show the template
[15:43:12] <cslcm> have you tried sticking a breakpoint on *all* the lines calling $window.location.href ?
[15:43:52] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, can you put some code showing the problem on stackblitz ? (template link is in channel topic)
[15:44:01] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: yes, hold on
[15:44:11] <Tazmain> cslcm, will try that, but it goes to /Production/Edit I can't find that anywhere
[15:45:11] * Pyrrhus666 just deleted the last references to stuff that used to be configured with bower. feels kinda good.
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[15:45:33] <cslcm> Tazmain: any $state.go calls in the project?
[15:45:53] <Tazmain> nope
[15:46:10] <gizmore> in old angular promises.... how could i determine if a promise/defer has an unhandled rejection? ( i wanna apply a default behaviour for unhandled rejections )
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[15:46:23] <Tazmain> cslcm, no UI router used
[15:46:58] <SuperTyp> what a crash
[15:47:03] <SuperTyp> <10k now
[15:47:03] <cslcm> nor ngRoute?
[15:47:04] <SuperTyp> insane
[15:47:15] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: https://pastebin.com/sHMHp45t
[15:47:23] <Tazmain> cslcm, nope . As I said this was not done in a sane manner
[15:47:46] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: the output of the home page is: page-not-found works!
[15:47:52] <J3089TE> no js error in the console
[15:47:58] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, that´s not a stackblitz :P
[15:48:07] <cslcm> gizmore: Handle them :P
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[15:48:34] <gizmore> cslcm: yeah.... i only wanna handle them if there is no explicit catch handler is attached
[15:48:36] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: hold on
[15:48:47] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, sounds like it´s routed to some component that´s not in the stuff you posted ?
[15:49:26] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, also, what route are you trying to trigger ? the empty one ?
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[15:50:00] <cslcm> gizmore: I *think* you can catch them by adding an unhandledrejection even listener on $window
[15:50:02] <cslcm> event*
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[15:50:07] <cslcm> but this is browser dependant
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[15:50:52] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: yes, I am tryign to triger the empty one
[15:50:52] <gizmore> hmm ... might work... thanks for that, cslcm
[15:53:09] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, your public module has no empty route, so it defers to the page not found thing
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[15:54:09] <cslcm> Tazmain: I can't see anything immediately obvious which would cause a navigation event in the code you've posted
[15:54:13] <Elarcis> I don’t know why, I just remembered that IT Crowd scene where Moss plays planting a knife between his fingers
[15:54:32] <Tazmain> cslcm, yeah... Thanks for looking. I don't know what is causing it
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[15:54:42] <J3089TE> Pyrrhus666: solved it
[15:54:50] <J3089TE> it was the ** routes in the Buyer module
[15:54:54] <Pyrrhus666> J3089TE, good :)
[15:55:14] <J3089TE> ** route should be defined in the app module
[15:55:15] <J3089TE> :-)
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[16:01:36] <anthonyinlondon> hi
[16:01:57] <icebox> gizmore: check for .catch part
[16:02:24] <gizmore> icebox: yeah i tried.... but no work so far
[16:02:26] <icebox> gizmore: $http, $defer, generally speaking, promises objects
[16:02:39] <icebox> gizmore: you didn't check it correctly :)
[16:02:48] <icebox> gizmore: here it works
[16:03:21] <icebox> gizmore: also the message error stack helps
[16:03:49] <gizmore> icebox: i have a promise that i want to fulfil, and if there is no catch handler, i wanna do something
[16:04:02] <gizmore> if there is a catch handler already in the defer, all fine
[16:04:18] <gizmore> if there is none yet.... do something (default error popup)
[16:04:46] <icebox> gizmore: I don't follow you... please, you may provide a minimal working plunker reproducing your use case, then we may give a look at it for suggestions
[16:05:00] <icebox> gizmore: template link in the topic
[16:05:40] <icebox> gizmore: is your problem about the logic or the message error "unhandled..."?
[16:05:55] <icebox> gizmore: generally speaking, no plunker, no party
[16:06:07] <gizmore> i have a defer..... i wanna check the defer if it has a catch attached
[16:06:26] <gizmore> if there is no catch attached, i display a default error message
[16:06:33] <gizmore> then i call reject
[16:06:38] <gizmore> so the plan
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[16:06:57] <gizmore> so i wanna know if i attached a catch to this defer, or not
[16:07:23] <icebox> gizmore: sorry? "i wanna check the defer if it has a catch attached"
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[16:07:42] <icebox> gizmore: what are you trying for?
[16:08:13] <icebox> gizmore: a linter app?
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[16:09:59] <anthonyinlondon> i am using angularjs 1.6, i have a route /#/event which worked fine, but i added a , <div ng-show > to the page for a login section, now the only url that works is /?#/event,
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[16:12:48] <cslcm> anthonyinlondon: I suspect the two things are unrelated, but to prove that, if you remove the ng-show, is it still broken?
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[16:13:10] <icebox> gizmore: if you need some hint, you may give a look at how angularjs itself check that... https://github.com/angular/angular.js/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=unhandled&type=
[16:13:16] <SuperTyp> I have created a new module and added routing to it with sperate routing module that imports RouterModule.forChild...and export RouterModule, still angular tells me that router-outlet isn't a known property...
[16:13:17] <SuperTyp> please help
[16:13:43] <icebox> SuperTyp: forgetting router stuff?
[16:13:58] <SuperTyp> https://pastebin.com/fuFrg0Rm
[16:14:25] <SuperTyp> icebox: probably but dunno what I could have forget
[16:14:54] <SuperTyp> I imported the DetailOverlayModule in AppModule
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[16:15:33] <icebox> SuperTyp: eheheh :)
[16:16:51] <SuperTyp> hm? =)
[16:17:14] <icebox> SuperTyp: you should be able to fix it :)
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[16:19:38] <SuperTyp> fixed it =)
[16:19:41] <SuperTyp> thanks icebox
[16:19:42] <SuperTyp> <3
[16:20:13] <icebox> :)
[16:20:18] <icebox> SuperTyp: what was the problem?
[16:20:27] <SuperTyp> the module was all good
[16:20:32] <SuperTyp> the routing stuff
[16:20:49] <SuperTyp> but I forgot to import the component where I use the router outlet =)
[16:21:05] <SuperTyp> and thats because it was imported and exportet somewhere else
[16:21:10] <SuperTyp> exported
[16:21:21] <icebox> SuperTyp: ah
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[16:24:10] <anthonyinlondon> i have to wait till tomorrow before I cna do another deployment as inside another project now, wondering which ideas you think it might be? strange the code inserts '?''
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[16:24:45] <cslcm> well, define "not working" - what's it actually doing
[16:24:51] <cslcm> and do you get any error output on the console
[16:25:06] <max_at> hello :) SargoDarya, Pyrrhus666, icebox
[16:25:14] <icebox> anthonyinlondon: https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/$location
[16:25:19] <SargoDarya> Hey max_at, how's it going?
[16:25:21] <icebox> max_at: hey
[16:29:57] <anthonyinlondon> i chened the https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/$location , but nowhere does it mention the url format: ?#
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[16:32:03] <icebox> anthonyinlondon: ok... you have time to read it again until tomorrow... :) the answer is in that doc
[16:32:22] <anthonyinlondon> can you give a hint :)
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[16:33:06] <icebox> anthonyinlondon: better... if you provide a minimal working plunker (template link in the topic) reproducing your use case, we may give a look at it and fix it :)
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[16:35:06] <anthonyinlondon> its just its a large enterprise apps so hard to do a minimum plunker, so any tip would be great
[16:35:39] <icebox> anthonyinlondon: we don't need your app, you need to narrow the issue and developing a minimal code reproducing your issue :)
[16:35:45] <SargoDarya> Why, just why, is 0 considered to be a valid date in the material date input and why is it considering it to be 1st Jan 2000?!
[16:36:03] <icebox> anthonyinlondon: the hint is unhandled route
[16:36:18] <anthonyinlondon> thanks alot
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[16:36:59] <icebox> SargoDarya: that is a standard, 0 from 2000, isn't it? :)
[16:37:15] <SargoDarya> How is that standard?
[16:37:25] <icebox> SargoDarya: ok... the mode was ironic :)
[16:37:50] <SargoDarya> I'm literally sitting here for hours trying to get my range picker to work.
[16:38:00] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: outch.
[16:38:26] <SargoDarya> Hnnnnnnnnnnnng
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[16:38:59] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: want my spot? everything it synchronous except when it’s not
[16:39:01] <Elarcis> *is
[16:39:27] <SargoDarya> Elarcis: Sounds great. Wanna change components?
[16:40:57] <Elarcis> SargoDarya: it sounds great, until it isn’t I guess
[16:41:38] <SargoDarya> Oh, and the date pipe in angular 4 is actually not working in IE, that's also good nhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnngggg
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[16:43:45] <icebox> SargoDarya: yep... fixed in 5
[16:44:13] <icebox> SargoDarya: https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/9524
[16:44:24] <SargoDarya> Yea, I know.
[16:44:37] <SargoDarya> Can't just upgrade everything though...
[16:45:04] <icebox> SargoDarya: it seems there is a workaround in that issue
[16:45:14] <SargoDarya> I made a custom pipe using moment
[16:45:24] <SargoDarya> Works like a charm but it's all issues which took me freaking ages to solve.
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[16:46:18] <icebox> SargoDarya: https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/9524#issuecomment-255038606 and the comment below
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[16:47:15] <icebox> off.... bye
[16:47:34] <SargoDarya> Bye icebox
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[16:50:19] <Pyrrhus6661> later icebox. also off in a bit
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[16:55:38] <borgdrone7_> hi guys, I am trying to get https://github.com/handsontable/ngHandsontable working. Basically just want to try demo which is included. But after I install it with provided instructions demo doesn't work and there are dozens of errors in console. What I did is basically: npm install ng-handsontable --save, as suggested in documentation. After that I tried running demo and there were missing dependencies. So I
[16:55:38] <borgdrone7_> went into node_modules/nghandsontable and run: npm install, however demo still didnt work with many errors. I don't use anything but npm, do I maybe need to have webpack for this to work?
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[17:05:08] <SargoDarya> borgdrone7_: Mmmmh... handsontable...
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[17:05:22] <SargoDarya> We used the same one. It has horrible performance for large data sets
[17:05:56] <borgdrone7_> SargoDarya: might be but currently I just need to get it working (I am not one to decide what lib to use)
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[17:06:27] <borgdrone7_> SargoDarya: do you maybe know what I am missing in order to get their demo working, I guess you have experience with it.
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[17:06:40] <SargoDarya> What is it saying that it's missing?
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[17:10:35] <borgdrone7_> Loading failed for the <script> with source “http://handsontable.github.io/ngHandsontable/bower_components/handsontable/dist/handsontable.full.js”.
[17:10:44] <J3089TE> my angular app make http calls to my api. I don't want to hardcode the url into the component. Where should I put the url? What is the best practice?
[17:10:54] <borgdrone7_> also: ReferenceError: angular is not defined
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[17:13:38] <Elarcis> J3089TE: all http calls in services
[17:14:07] <J3089TE> Elarcis: I have like 10 services. I don't want to hardcode my urls in the code
[17:14:17] <Elarcis> J3089TE: you’ll have to
[17:14:22] <J3089TE> because my local env is local.domain.com and my production is domain.com
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[17:14:53] <J3089TE> Elarcis: HAVE to?
[17:15:09] <J3089TE> can't we inject a config service or something similar?
[17:16:17] <Elarcis> J3089TE: ah, yes you can do that
[17:16:34] <Elarcis> J3089TE: I meant you’ll have to write your urls parts somewhere
[17:16:52] <Elarcis> J3089TE: I have 90 services for now, and more are coming
[17:16:57] <J3089TE> it looks like I have to make it myself
[17:17:02] <Elarcis> J3089TE: 95% of the logic should be in services.
[17:17:15] <J3089TE> in angularjs there was a Constant Service.
[17:17:25] <Elarcis> J3089TE: are you using ng cli?
[17:17:30] <J3089TE> yes
[17:18:41] <Elarcis> J3089TE: should have read the doc, bro https://github.com/angular/angular-cli/wiki/stories-application-environments
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[17:20:18] <J3089TE> wow, how could I miss that
[17:20:20] <J3089TE> thanks
[17:20:29] <Elarcis> J3089TE: also: if your webapp is always on the same domain as your API, you can use relative urls when making http calls
[17:20:40] <TheG0ldenG0d> if I want to pass data down to a component, isn't the format for data binding [propertyname]="value" ?
[17:20:46] <Elarcis> J3089TE: local, www, etc.
[17:20:49] <J3089TE> Elarcis: it is not the same
[17:20:58] <J3089TE> the api is api.*
[17:21:02] <Elarcis> J3089TE: too bad
[17:21:07] <Elarcis> J3089TE: :P
[17:21:16] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: yes it is
[17:21:30] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: in Angular ≥2, that is.
[17:21:51] <TheG0ldenG0d> thats what I thought. this is my code: <app-menu-item *ngFor="let item of this.menuItemNames" [name]={{item.name}}></app-menu-item>
[17:22:08] <TheG0ldenG0d> and its giving me a template parse error
[17:22:17] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: yup.
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[17:22:29] <TheG0ldenG0d> why ?
[17:22:47] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: because you’re not using the syntax you asked us confirmation for one minute ago
[17:23:03] <TheG0ldenG0d> what do you mean
[17:23:04] <Elarcis> *two minutes
[17:23:06] <TheG0ldenG0d> I am
[17:23:16] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: no you’re not. {{}} is not "".
[17:23:29] <TheG0ldenG0d> right, im using the value
[17:23:32] <TheG0ldenG0d> what is wrong then
[17:23:49] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: what do you mean, what is wrong ?
[17:23:55] <TheG0ldenG0d> why doesnt it work
[17:24:00] <TheG0ldenG0d> its throwing a fatal error
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[17:24:29] <TheG0ldenG0d> even changing the value to a static string throws a fatal error
[17:24:45] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: I told you why it doesn’t work, you don’t use {{ }} for binding values to properties
[17:25:01] <TheG0ldenG0d> is this supposed to work ? [name]="FOO"
[17:25:18] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: if FOO is the name of a variable, yes.
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[17:25:36] <TheG0ldenG0d> doesnt work
[17:25:53] <TheG0ldenG0d> <app-menu-item *ngFor="let item of this.menuItemNames" [name]="item.name"></app-menu-item>
[17:26:09] <TheG0ldenG0d> the error is "Can't bind to 'name' since it isn't a known property of 'app-menu-item'."
[17:26:18] <TheG0ldenG0d> its name thats the problem not the value
[17:26:36] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: earlier you had a parsing error so that’s a progress
[17:26:44] <TheG0ldenG0d> not really
[17:26:51] <TheG0ldenG0d> just 1 error to another
[17:26:54] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: well that means the `name` property of AppMenuItem is not declared as an input.
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[17:27:14] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: a parsing error to a declaration error is always a progress, at least now you know what’s wrong.
[17:27:27] <TheG0ldenG0d> in AppMenuItem do I have to do something to say that name is a property that it will be accepting in
[17:28:16] <TheG0ldenG0d> is it possible to fix this
[17:28:22] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: https://angular.io/tutorial/toh-pt3
[17:28:37] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: I recommend you follow the whole tutorial though
[17:28:52] <TheG0ldenG0d> im not doing a whole tutorial just to fix one issue
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[17:30:39] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: your issue is day-one stuff, you’re doing a whole tutorial because you don’t really know how to use the framework, which is okay. It’s okay to not know, it’s not okay to dismiss help because you "don’t have time"
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[17:31:25] <TheG0ldenG0d> my issue is some kind of syntax error when data binding
[17:31:30] <TheG0ldenG0d> I came in here asking for help
[17:32:09] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: yes, I fixed your syntax error, now you have a declaration error in your component, I sent you the page that explains how to handle inputs.
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[17:34:20] <Elarcis> TheG0ldenG0d: it is the 5th page of a 8 pages tutorial that explains pretty much all the basics of Angular, I really recommend the reading to avoid getting frustrated and coming here for help with simple issues :)
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[17:47:13] <TheG0ldenG0d> fixed it
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[17:57:01] <Snugglebash> Hey all, has anyone managed to run 'ng build --prod' without an error?
[17:57:12] <cslcm> haha of course
[17:57:32] <cslcm> well i use ng build --target="production" myself in my npm build script, but it's the same thing
[17:57:43] <cslcm> what error do you get
[17:57:59] <Snugglebash> ERROR in ./src/main.ts
[17:58:30] <Snugglebash> Module not found: Error: Can't resolve './$$_gendir/app/app.module.ngfactory'
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[17:59:07] <cslcm> curious, i've never seen anything like $$_gendir
[17:59:31] <cslcm> try a brand new "ng new" and then build right away, does it succeed?
[17:59:35] <cslcm> (in a new directory i mean)
[17:59:49] <Snugglebash> maybe i need to update my ng cli
[18:00:14] <cslcm> that's always a good start :)
[18:00:20] <Snugglebash> i still have an old version from a long time agos :P
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[18:22:05] <gizmore> so i told my friend to shut up, because i have a problem with deferred promises... and he asked what is wrong with my pferdepommes :(
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[18:26:19] <SargoDarya> gizmore: LOL
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[18:47:52] <borgdrone7_> Can anyone please help me get running demo for: https://github.com/handsontable/ngHandsontable I am trying for hours but don't know exact steps I need to do. The zip contains all the files and I just want to be able to run the demo in local browser. Anyone please help?
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[18:48:55] <Guest54834> i need to come up with a attribute name
[18:49:25] <Guest54834> i have a filter dropdown that id like to use with router or form
[18:49:42] <Guest54834> i was thinking like typeSomething
[18:49:47] <Guest54834> or
[18:49:49] <Guest54834> somethignType
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[18:49:58] <Guest54834> somethignType=state
[18:50:02] <Guest54834> somethignType=form
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[18:54:00] <HeartMeeple> Still learning. For building an application based on nodejs and Angular, is it good to include a MVC framework like sails for DB queries? Will the DB access live on the web server or does it get sent to the client in a js script?
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[18:56:36] <HeartMeeple> Or more simply put, where does a controller written in js live?
[18:58:01] <cslcm> database access should always be server-side, and accessed via an API, unless it's a database specifically designed for client access via Oauth or something similar like Firebase
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[19:00:31] <HeartMeeple> Agreed. I'm just trying to figure out how that works in the idealized Angular development pathway.
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[19:00:54] <HeartMeeple> cslcm: Or maybe figure out how that works.
[19:01:39] <HeartMeeple> For example, should I use Sails? It is JS, lives in the same folder as Angular.
[19:03:26] <HeartMeeple> clamstar: So when it comes to deploy this app, is the database access going to stay on the server-side? Or are frameworks like that supposed to just do http requests to an API built and running somewhere else?
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[19:04:46] <HeartMeeple> cslcm: I know that there are controllers in Angular, but are those supposed to replace that API call?
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[19:05:30] <HeartMeeple> cslcm: Or are they just meant for making API calls?
[19:05:48] <Guest54834> no dude
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[19:05:55] <Guest54834> they both have controllers
[19:06:00] <Guest54834> app and api
[19:06:34] <Guest54834> keep them as 2 projects
[19:06:55] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: Right. But is there a safe way that I can add database access without making an API?
[19:08:27] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: I ask because that makes my corporate deployment twice as hard. I then have to go through the process of setting up two programs to run on our managed serverspace. (Twice as much paperwork and meetings)
[19:09:10] <Guest54834> ya thats the way to go
[19:09:53] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: Bleh. Too bad. I think this is part of the reason most of the company is sticking with ASP.NET.
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[19:11:44] <HeartMeeple> I guess if I want to modernize I may have to fight to change our implementation policy. :-|
[19:12:12] <Guest54834> ur .net api doesnt have to change
[19:12:15] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: Thanks for the info.
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[19:12:47] <Guest54834> if it can do restful json responses
[19:13:09] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: There is no .net api built for most of our apps. They use the built in IIS database connections I think.
[19:14:15] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: In the past people all query the DB directly in the asp.net.
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[19:15:07] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: Or maybe through a reverse proxy because the databases are definitely on different machines.
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[19:15:13] <Guest54834> .net comes with orm tho
[19:15:35] <Guest54834> Entity Framework, included in .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 and above
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[19:19:02] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: There are still programs used daily running here that were built in VB and asp... I imagine that the same developers never integrated ORM as time went on because they didn't know how it worked..
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[19:20:15] <Guest54834> obviously
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[19:20:52] <Guest54834> microsoft devs usually suck the most
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[19:21:52] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: This place is aching for linux but they don't even know it.
[19:23:25] <HeartMeeple> Guest54834: Also Perforce versioning. What year is this anyhow?
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[19:45:06] <Voziv> Is there some kind of special transclusion code when you have a directive named say 'md-expansion-panel' and then use a tag called 'md-expansion-panel-content' ? Looking through the source I can't find mention of the content directive though it clearly works when I use it
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[19:48:12] <Voziv> Nevermind, seems like you don't need a directive or anything to have a custom tag
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[19:51:21] <TheG0ldenG0d> when using a framework like muicss do I need to import each component that I want to use
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[19:58:18] <TheG0ldenG0d> does anyone here use muicss
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[20:02:57] <gizmore> TheG0ldenG0d: hi... i do not know muicss ... it sounds like a css framework though, now as i type it
[20:03:30] <TheG0ldenG0d> once I install a framework with npm install --save, do I need to import each component in angular
[20:03:58] <gizmore> i guess you gotta <link> <script> it
[20:04:04] <gizmore> css and js import
[20:04:15] <TheG0ldenG0d> even though I installed a package
[20:04:16] <gizmore> there are tools who automate this, but i never used those
[20:04:16] <TheG0ldenG0d> ?
[20:04:53] <gizmore> tools that auto linkcss/incjs from your npm dir
[20:04:57] <gizmore> into your html
[20:05:03] <gizmore> actually i hate the js toolchain
[20:05:19] <gizmore> i am the F5 guy :)
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[20:12:56] <graingert> TheG0ldenG0d: webpack or whatever
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[20:14:00] <Guest54834> ya webpack is awesome
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[20:53:21] <Guest54834> seems like angular directives can be cleaner
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[21:22:20] <gizmore> Guest54834: 1 or 5?
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[21:28:42] <mchelen> is it wrong to pass a value to a directive like this in angular 1: <mydirective foo="3"></mydirective>
[21:30:28] <gizmore> mchelen: sounds like a plan
[21:30:56] <gizmore> thats what custom directives could do
[21:31:13] <gizmore> create more html based on foo
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[21:33:41] <mchelen> gizmore: i thought i was getting an error when i tried this before, but maybe i had a problem with my syntax
[21:37:26] <gizmore> writing directives is tricky
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[21:39:36] <gizmore> F5 should be the dev toolchain
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[21:41:51] <mchelen> gizmore: this is what my code looks like: https://gist.github.com/mchelen/d8dc8fdd6d0988c2be3a32c17305505e
[21:42:29] <mchelen> i can't figure out why `console.log($scope.foo)` is undefined
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[21:43:26] <gizmore> mchelen: cant help :(
[21:43:47] <mchelen> gizmore: oh well, thanks anyway :)
[21:43:48] <gizmore> foo @= maybe?
[21:44:17] <mchelen> what does that do?
[21:44:25] <gizmore> biderictional?
[21:44:28] <gizmore> dunno
[21:44:41] <gizmore> i am quite newbie in directives
[21:44:51] <mchelen> ah ok, have you seen any good examples?
[21:45:02] <gizmore> not lately
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[21:45:41] <gizmore> i think i just learned that one directional is from form to controller
[21:45:47] <gizmore> not the other way round
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[21:45:58] <gizmore> and that bidirectional means also from ctrl to form
[21:46:02] <gizmore> not sure, tho
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[21:48:53] <mchelen> this tut is helpful, but it seems like i'm doing it the right way so idk: http://adrianmejia.com/blog/2016/04/08/creating-custom-angularjs-directives-for-beginners/
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[22:52:03] <graingert> mchelen: don't use directives. Use components
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[22:52:25] <mchelen> graingert: we're on angular 1.2 :( :(
[22:52:29] <graingert> y
[22:52:56] <graingert> mchelen: upgrade to 1.3 https://github.com/toddmotto/angular-component
[22:53:12] <mchelen> graingert: i guess they dont want to take the time to upgrade
[22:53:28] <graingert> mchelen: you need IE8?
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[22:53:56] <mchelen> graingert: maybe, but i dont think so
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[22:55:06] <graingert> mchelen: why not just use ng-react-component
[22:55:10] <graingert> or something like that
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[22:55:33] <mchelen> graingert: huh that might be an option
[22:56:36] <graingert> do all the new stuff in something like mchelen
[22:56:39] <mchelen> graingert: honestly this project is kind of a mess and adding anything new seems pretty risky
[22:56:40] <graingert> I mean react
[22:56:41] <graingert> or new
[22:56:52] <graingert> mchelen: maybe iframe new stuff in instead
[22:57:17] <mchelen> graingert: maybe but iframes can cause other problems
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[23:07:09] <TheG0ldenG0d> has anyone here used material-ui with angular
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[23:09:47] <senayar> Hi
[23:10:56] <Guest54834> TheG0ldenG0d: no is it good
[23:11:25] <TheG0ldenG0d> yes it is
[23:11:38] <Guest54834> but u can make ur own materials with directives
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[23:21:05] <TheG0ldenG0d> i need help understanding how to use frameworks with angular
[23:21:12] <TheG0ldenG0d> I installed it with --save
[23:21:23] <Guest54834> ?
[23:21:33] <TheG0ldenG0d> Sorry forgot to mention that this is for muicss
[23:21:34] <Guest54834> yesterday u said u were a pro
[23:21:47] <TheG0ldenG0d> I never said I was a pro
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[23:22:21] <Guest54834> u refused to do teh hero tut
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[23:23:18] <TheG0ldenG0d> that doesnt cover external libraries
[23:24:40] <graingert> TheG0ldenG0d: I've used it. It's terrible
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[23:25:13] <TheG0ldenG0d> after installing it and adding the css to .angular-cli.json how do i use an muicss component
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[23:25:50] <Guest54834> material-ui doesnt look that great either
[23:25:57] <Guest54834> id run with bootstrap
[23:26:53] <TheG0ldenG0d> ive used boostrap
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[23:30:21] <TheG0ldenG0d> im not crazy about it
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[23:37:01] <J3089TE> I think I found a bug in angular/httpclient
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