[00:00:13] <spideep> spideep [5:46 PM]
[00:00:13] <spideep> Hi here.
[00:00:13] <spideep> **Error: You provided an invalid object where a stream was expected. You can provide an Observable, Promise, Array, or Iterable.
[00:00:13] <spideep> You provided an invalid object where a stream was expected. You can provide an Observable, Promise, Array, or Iterable.***
[00:00:14] <spideep> Why? This is the output of `ng --version`
[00:00:14] <spideep> **Angular CLI: 1.6.3
[00:00:15] <spideep> Node: 8.9.4
[00:00:15] <spideep> OS: linux x64
[00:00:16] <spideep> Angular: 5.2.0**
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[00:56:23] <newb102> Hi, I'm not a developer, but will need to speak to one about building a webapp for my company, and just wanted to chat with someone who knows about angularjs and whats possible with it before I spoke to the developer, if anyone wants to chat and maybe drop some knowledge on me feel free =)
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[02:10:43] <mchelen> newb102: ie you want someone to give you a free consultation
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[05:46:23] <nopacienc3> what happened to front end ?
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[05:52:29] <nopacienc3> newb102: dont use angular, use vuejs instead
[05:54:18] <nopacienc3> newb102: advice given. you wont find support for angular... see this chan
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[08:18:21] <icebox> hey folks
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[09:05:05] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
[09:05:31] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hey
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[09:25:41] <xhd> Good morning Angular family! :D
[09:26:08] <icebox> xhd: hey
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[09:27:41] <Magnumes> hiho
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[09:30:01] <icebox> Magnumes: hey
[09:33:14] <SargoDarya> Morning folks
[09:33:40] <Pyrrhus666> morning SargoDarya icebox Magnumes xhd
[09:34:03] <icebox> SargoDarya: hey
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[10:15:29] <Pyrrhus666> tl;dr : new microcode for broadwell/haswell causes reboot issues
[10:15:42] <icebox> yep... read it :)
[10:15:50] <dgo> hi there. I have updated to angular 5.2.0, which supports typescript 2.6 but I still have the angular-cli warning : @angular/compiler-cli at 5 dot 2.0 requires typescript at '>=2 dot 4.2 <2.6.0' but 2.6.2 was found instead.
[10:16:08] <icebox> dgo: it is a warning :)
[10:16:12] <Pyrrhus666> dgo, I have that warning, I ignore it
[10:16:26] <dgo> yeah,mmh, well
[10:16:54] <dgo> why is this warning be raised if ng supports this version ?
[10:17:43] <Pyrrhus666> last I read ng-cli didn´t know ng supported ts 2.6, it´s a configuration issue with ng-cli
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[10:18:40] <icebox> dgo: always check the issues :)
[10:18:41] <dgo> ok, thanks for this input. I check the github issues yesterday, probably before this issue been created
[10:18:58] <icebox> dgo: no problem :)
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[10:20:05] <easy_ref123> any idea why my ng-show won't work without interpolation?
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[10:21:32] <icebox> easy_ref123: do you mean <div ng-show="myValue"></div> doesn't work?
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[10:22:35] <easy_ref123> icebox, yes
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[10:23:14] <icebox> easy_ref123: eheheh... hint: "@"
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[10:23:26] <easy_ref123> <my-directive show-div-2="{{ vm.showDiv2 }}"></my-directive>
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[10:24:34] <easy_ref123> icebox, I thought this was necessary to bind it to a property on the controller
[10:24:47]
<icebox> easy_ref123: and generally speaking "Note: AngularJS directive attributes take either expressions or interpolation markup with embedded expressions. It is considered bad practice to embed interpolation markup inside an expression:" - https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/interpolation
[10:24:58] <easy_ref123> for the, show-div-2="{{ vm.showDiv2 }}" part
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[10:25:17] <icebox> easy_ref123: if you provide a minimal working plunker reproducing your use case, we may give a look at it and fix it... template link in the topic
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[10:34:50] <icebox> easy_ref123: fixed?
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[10:35:34] <easy_ref123> icebox, maybe. don't think I can nicely fit it into a plunker example, but it seems I wanted, '=', without any {{ interpolation }}
[10:35:53] <icebox> easy_ref123: do you know why? :)
[10:35:54] <easy_ref123> thanks btw
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[10:38:12] <easy_ref123> I'm still a little confused. I chose '@' because other values in the isolated scope are using it. For example, divTitle: '@', which is then used as, ng-show="divTitle". It is passed to the directive as, "{{::vm.divTitle}}"
[10:38:37] <easy_ref123> I copied this pattern - without the double colons.
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[10:40:19] <icebox> easy_ref123: basically you are activating one-way, when you need two-way
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[10:41:29] <icebox> easy_ref123: that depends when you update the scope
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[10:47:38] <Elarcis> foorg, efreof!
[10:48:17] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis ;)
[10:48:26] <icebox> Elarcis: hey
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[10:55:03] <Sam____> hi guys
[10:55:27] <Sam____> hello anyone help me?
[10:55:51] <icebox> Sam____: don't ask for help, ask it
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[10:56:13] <Sam____> is it possible to open ruting pages directly?
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[10:56:35] <easy_ref123> icebox, can I make this replacement and expect it to work...<div show-div-2="vm.showDiv2"></div>...replaced by...<div show-div-2="vm.showDiv2()"></div>.
[10:57:19] <easy_ref123> assuming everything else exists, and is the same.
[10:57:21] <leothlon> this is kinda wierd :S i got an array with about 15 objects, i then do an *ngFor on this list with a pretty small template.. still it takes angular about 3-4 seconds to render it whenever a change is done to the array :S
[10:57:49] <Sam____> i just deployed my site using angular 1.6 taskmarketing.in
[10:58:12] <Sam____> and if iwant to open directly taskmarketing.in/contact
[10:58:16] <Sam____> how can i?
[10:59:07] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, by using a router, I guess ?
[10:59:15] <Sam____> right?
[10:59:17] <Elarcis> easy_ref123: if showDiv is a function, yes of course
[10:59:17] <Sam____> right
[10:59:27] <Pyrrhus666> for angularjs that would be ui-router
[11:00:15] <Sam____> i used ngRoute for that
[11:00:25] <easy_ref123> Elarcis, do I not replace, "showDiv2: '='", in the directive's scope with, "showDiv2: '&'"
[11:00:38] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, should also work
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[11:01:58] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 how can i open my routed pages directly like taskmarketing.in/contact
[11:02:05] <icebox> easy_ref123: that is totally another approach "@" !== "=" !== "{...}" !== "...()" :)
[11:02:54] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, if you have a route for that, it should ´just work´. what happens now when you directly call that url ?
[11:03:02] <Elarcis> easy_ref123: depends on what showDiv is supposed to do… is it a callback that needs to be ran later, or is it a function that returns a result to use for show-div ?
[11:03:48] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 it shows blank page
[11:03:52] <easy_ref123> function to return result
[11:04:03] <leothlon> anyone got any ideas how i can speed it up? i change an array with about 15 objects, this array i got an *ngFor on.. and it takes about 3-4 seconds before angular has rerendered it after change :S the template is pretty small so shouldn't be that show...
[11:04:29] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, are you using html5mode ? so no # in the routes ? any errors on the console ?
[11:04:33] <leothlon> its like it takes angular about 3 seconds to even detect the array has been changed
[11:04:55] <icebox> leothlon: I don't think so... any repro?
[11:05:22] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 yes i am using html5mode like $locationProvider.html5Mode({ enabled: true, requireBase: false });
[11:06:08] <Elarcis> easy_ref123: then no, you don’t need '&'
[11:06:17] <leothlon> not realy :/ cant realy share the code :P but i am doing this... <station-list-item *ngFor="let item of visibleItems" [item]="item" (click)="ShowStation(item.gasStationId)"></station-list-item>
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[11:06:28] <leothlon> and the visibleItems list contains ~15 items
[11:06:45] <leothlon> and the station-list-item template is pretty damn small so should be fast to load
[11:06:47] <icebox> leothlon: really? you don't need to share the code... you need to create a minimal working plunker reproducing the problem
[11:06:56] <Elarcis> easy_ref123: '&' is used for when you want to run code from within your controller, like this.showDiv() => will run the content of show-div.
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[11:07:12] <leothlon> i think the problem is that angular dont realy detect that the array is changed for a few seconds :S
[11:07:23] <icebox> leothlon: or better a stackblitz... otherwise you have a two problems: the issue and no any test reproducing the issue :)
[11:07:34] <leothlon> ok i'll try to reproduce it
[11:07:40] <icebox> leothlon: I don't think so :)
[11:07:57] <icebox> leothlon: template link in the topic
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[11:14:53] <Elarcis> TIL Math.min() without arguments returns Infinity, Math.max() returns -Infinity
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[11:15:41] <Elarcis> existential question: what is the maximum of *nothing* ?
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[11:16:11] <Pyrrhus666> I´d say undefined.
[11:18:24] <icebox> Elarcis: it is correct... it is like when you need to do something like if (myValue < min) { min = myValue; }...
[11:18:40] <icebox> Elarcis: it is the old min = 999999;
[11:23:45] <Elarcis> Infinity = 999999 ?
[11:24:15] <leothlon> the number on top shows how manny items should be displayd
[11:25:07] <leothlon> oh crap sorry nvm
[11:25:14] <leothlon> i made an error ;)
[11:25:26] <icebox> :P
[11:25:33] <Pyrrhus666> a settimeout of 5 seconds ?
[11:25:52] <Pyrrhus666> *setinterval
[11:26:28] <leothlon> hmm well it works in the stackblitz :/ wonder why it dont work in my project :/
[11:27:36] <Pyrrhus666> leothlon, remove code until it´s fast, I guess ;)
[11:27:56] <icebox> leothlon: that happens often :)
[11:28:22] <icebox> leothlon: and it is the main reason you (we) need a repro
[11:28:35] <leothlon> the templates are small.. but there is template inside template... could it be that its slow because it needs to render nested components :/?
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[11:29:24] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: angular +12k stars vs. angularjs +3k stars in 2017... it seems angularjs is not dead :)
[11:29:44] <icebox> almost +4k
[11:30:08] <icebox> leothlon: devtools is your friend
[11:30:28] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, vuejs :P
[11:30:29] <icebox> leothlon: generally speaking nested components are not a problem
[11:30:33] <Pyrrhus666> also : parcel ?
[11:31:10] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: hyperapp was a candidadate for me before hyperhtml :)
[11:32:25] <icebox> but hyperscript is not for me :)
[11:34:06] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, hyperhtml is invisible in that list though...
[11:34:36] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: yep... only 1.3k stars
[11:35:21] <leothlon> screw this ... its just gonna have to be slow to update the damn list xD i give up
[11:35:22] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: it seems literal templates don't get traction.. also lit-html (polymer, google) is not better
[11:36:07] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I must say that by now I´m quite spoiled by ´complete´ solutions like vue and angular, where I can start a project from a cli and not have to bother with all them build tools...
[11:36:08] <icebox> leothlon: no problem :)
[11:36:27] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed... but that is a terrible vendor lock
[11:36:27] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yeah...
[11:36:49] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, I know. but it´s the pragmatic decision to make in many cases.
[11:36:57] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: agreed
[11:37:24] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: somewhere we need to take a tradeoff or an arrangement
[11:37:59] <icebox> and for a frontend team in a company is not easy the choice
[11:37:59] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yup. and for me it´s about convenience now. ng new is convenient af :P
[11:39:19] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: I just use it from within IntelliJ
[11:39:52] <icebox> from those figure I notice two things... really no news in the js ecosystem and it seems there is a sort of stabilization... and Atom is dead :)
[11:41:44] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, you mean ng-cli ? didn´t know it had bindings for it. vscode fan myself
[11:42:09] <SargoDarya> Pyrrhus666: It has, it's quite neat.
[11:42:12] <Pyrrhus666> icebox, yeah. also : I didn´t even know adobe brackets still exists :)
[11:42:53] <Pyrrhus666> SargoDarya, I guess that makes adding stuff with ng generate a breeze... nice :)
[11:43:01] <icebox> Pyrrhus666: also that is dead :) great first attempt (using web tech for an editor) anyway
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[11:54:29] <mllie> Hi guys
[11:55:11] <mllie> Is there any way to keep the routing module config when switching between lazy and eager loaded? To always specify base path for module for example?
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[12:01:29] <SuperTyp> hi all
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[12:09:02] <Sam____> is it possible to mae routing without ui-routing in angularjs
[12:09:18] <Sam____> currently i am using angular 1.6
[12:10:11]
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[12:10:56] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, yes there´s a version for angularjs
[12:11:27] <Sam____> i had deployed my site using angularjs taskmarketing.in
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[12:12:09] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 but whe i tried to open routed pages directly using url like taskmarketing.in/contact
[12:12:20] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 it show blank page??
[12:12:50] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, you still didn´t tell me if there were errors on the console ;)
[12:13:11] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 no there is not any error in console
[12:14:09] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, then I think your webserver isn´t configured correctly. that should make sure that when you call an url lke that, it is actually loads the angular app
[12:15:07] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, keep it in the channel please
[12:15:12] <Sam____> ok
[12:15:15] <Sam____> so how can i configure my server?
[12:16:46] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 url is not opening
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[12:18:55] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 whats went wrong?
[12:19:24] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, don´t know, the url works for me.
[12:21:17] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 ok checking...
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[12:46:01] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 tried to add code in web.config but it goes to 500 internal server error
[12:46:25] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, and what does the webserver log have to say about that ?
[12:47:21] <SuperTyp> Sam____: please change your nick...gives me cancer
[12:47:47] <Sam____> @ pyrrhus666 Rewrite Rule for HTML5Mode angularjs for IIS 7.0
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[12:48:33] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, if you´re using IIS I can´t really help you, I haven´t used that in 15 years...
[12:49:38] <Sam____> anybody can help me??
[12:50:27] <Sam____> @SuperTyp next time i will ask you nick before starting discussion
[12:50:29] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, for this issue I´d suggest looking for an IIS channel or forum
[12:50:52] <SuperTyp> Sam____: I mean the underscores it makes everything so hard to read imho
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[12:50:59] <Sam____> @Pyrrhus666 thanks a lot for your valuable time
[12:51:06] <Pyrrhus666> Sam____, np ;)
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[12:55:37] <Magnumes> underscores? for what? ;o
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[13:00:17] <icebox> back
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[13:14:17] <SargoDarya> I think just today I had the first valid use case for prime now
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[13:18:37] <SuperTyp> prime?
[13:18:53] <icebox> amazon prime
[13:22:17] <SuperTyp> thought so =) SargoDarya so what was it?
[13:22:59] <SargoDarya> I'm usually coming into work with motorcycle pants and today was the first day I actually forgot my jeans at home.
[13:23:05] <SargoDarya> Ordered a new one from prime.
[13:23:53] <SuperTyp> :D :D
[13:24:29] <SuperTyp> but when will it arrive?
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[13:25:36] <icebox> SargoDarya: do you mean are you in slip?
[13:25:41]
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[13:28:07] <SargoDarya> SuperTyp: That's nice thing, it's delivered within the hour
[13:28:16] <SargoDarya> icebox: lolnope
[13:28:30] <icebox> :P
[13:28:42] <SargoDarya> There was maybe half an hour where I was like coding in motorcycle gear.
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[13:29:42] <SuperTyp> can't u wear your pants below the motorcycle pants?
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[13:45:18] <SargoDarya> SuperTyp: Super uncomfortable
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[13:45:56] <SargoDarya> That would be thermo wear, jeans, insulation layer of motorcycle pants, and then the pants with protectors.
[13:46:33] <SargoDarya> Movement reduced by 50%
[13:48:12] <SuperTyp> ok
[13:48:20] <SuperTyp> so AMD is also affected by spectre
[13:52:50] <Pyrrhus666> yes
[13:53:30] <Pyrrhus666> remember though that meltdown is the worse of the two
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[13:55:54] <SuperTyp> ok
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[14:37:54] <Elarcis> bleh
[14:38:01] <Elarcis> BLEH
[14:38:02] <Elarcis> ERSUITESIUTCU
[14:39:38] <Elarcis> T_T
[14:39:41] <Magnumes> ngrx = redux?
[14:39:59] <Elarcis> Magnumes: redux for angular, yes
[14:40:08] <Magnumes> k, thx
[14:40:29] <Elarcis> Magnumes: NO
[14:40:30] <Elarcis> EOSTPIRNET
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[14:40:32] <Elarcis> Magnumes: sorry
[14:40:43] <Elarcis> Magnumes: I always mix them together
[14:40:55] <Elarcis> Magnumes: I was thinking of ng-redux
[14:41:25] <Magnumes> Then what is ngrx?
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[14:42:30] <icebox> Magnumes: Reactive libraries for Angular
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[14:44:17] <Magnumes> hmm, then what's differences between ngrx and redux? I need to understand this
[14:44:31] <Elarcis> Magnumes: maybe I didn’t mix them together
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[14:44:52] <Elarcis> Magnumes: I’m sorry, I always get confused between ngrx and rxjs
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[14:45:33] <icebox> Magnumes: redux is a state manager, ngrx is a set of reactive libs
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[14:46:37] <Magnumes> Ok, thanks u guys
[14:47:11] <icebox> Magnumes: you are welcome
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[14:50:49] <rahi> hello all i have one query regrading form submit basically i have two button (type="submit") one for save and other for save and continue like mangento so i am using ng-submit on form so i wnat to know how to detected user click on save or save and continue button?
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[14:54:11] <rahi> ?
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[14:55:10] <Elarcis> rahi: I’d say don’t use the native submit then, use a custom method in your controller that save(), and one that saveAndContinue().
[14:55:40] <icebox> rahi: ng-click="save()" and ng-click="save_and_continue()" ?
[14:55:45] <rahi> u mean just used ng-click
[14:56:52] <rahi> but how can validate form in this case
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[15:01:25] <rahi> any other idea?
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[15:04:50] <Elarcis> rahi: an invalid form has its .$invalid property to true
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[15:05:20] <Elarcis> rahi: if you just want to submit a html form, the native submit feature is OK, but anything more advanced, you’re going to have to write JS for that.
[15:06:16] <rahi> ok thanks Elarcis
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[15:56:46] <SuperTyp> OT*
[15:56:56] <SuperTyp> I think thats something
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[16:04:47] <Pyrrhus666> all ico´s are bubbles, no ?
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[16:09:18] <Elarcis> "Find out how much money you can make: 9.08€"
[16:09:19] <Elarcis> lol
[16:12:32] <SuperTyp> :D
[16:12:36] <SuperTyp> per coin ofc
[16:13:12] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: you mean if I can afford 1 BTC I’ll win up to 9.08€ ?
[16:13:15] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: :P
[16:13:47] <SuperTyp> per svd*
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[16:14:13] <Elarcis> I’m not much into cryptocurrencies
[16:15:32] <Elarcis> I find that they are a nerd’s dream that degenerated into an hypocritical speculative bubble and power struggles between people who all think they’ve got money figured out
[16:16:46] <Elarcis> turns out that "decentralized money safe from the banks" became a "unregulated speculation fund whose entire value is dependant on real currencies"
[16:17:59] <SuperTyp> ^ pretty accurate tbh
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[16:18:46] <SuperTyp> thats why I am not behind the currencies but more behind the (business)idea of the tokens/coins
[16:19:42] <Elarcis> SuperTyp: you mean you’re speculating?
[16:20:00] <SuperTyp> well everyone is
[16:20:03] <SuperTyp> and yes
[16:20:10] <SuperTyp> gambling somehow
[16:24:46] <icebox> everyone? :)
[16:26:55] <Elarcis> not me, for sure
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[16:27:28] <Elarcis> that’s the problem… speculating should be risk management, not gambling
[16:28:18] <icebox> not me too
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[16:38:55] <icebox> off... have a nice weekend
[16:39:37] <max_at> have a nice weekend icebox
[16:39:58] <max_at> anyone there with angular-cli knowledge?
[16:40:15] <icebox> no... we are using vue
[16:40:22] <icebox> :P
[16:40:22] <max_at> apart from the standard install an run
[16:40:24] <max_at> :P
[16:40:40] <icebox> ask it :)
[16:40:43] <max_at> icebox: thought you're doing angularjs ..haha
[16:41:12] <icebox> ah well :)
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[16:42:02] <max_at> I know that there is still no plugin mechanism and I dont want to do ng inject in order to maintain this manually later .. but I have the need to run certain commands (also during watch would be great)
[16:42:50] <max_at> currently running on angular-seed and have custom stuff for building fonts from svg, running static code analysis and other stuff. things that is ok to run just once, so I can just use normal npm run commands.
[16:43:42] <max_at> But for some other commands it would be great to inject them into angluar-cli serve lifecycle .. is there any possibility?
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[16:43:47] <Pyrrhus666> bye icebox
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[16:45:19] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, no idea. but wrt fonts : why not have a separate build process for them and just include the result in your angular project as a static file ?
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[16:45:34] <icebox> max_at: I don't think so... as you said, using pre/post for npm run
[16:45:49] <Pyrrhus666> (or make it a dependency via git & package.json)
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[16:47:20] <icebox> max_at: you have pre/post hooks... npm run foo... and npm executes "prefoo" and "postfoo"
[16:47:25] <max_at> Yea, would be a possibility. Still I think it is ok to restart ng serve or run a separate window to update the svg files and fonts for example. Still at some point in time you need to have a list in mind of what is being done automatically and what not, so you're not ending up in "why isn't this being updated, ohhh restart required"
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[16:48:19] <Pyrrhus666> max_at, I can say this : ng serve works fine, but at completely random intervals it will misbehave and require a restart anyway ;)
[16:48:41] <Pyrrhus666> hmr is cool and all, but it´s magic...
[16:48:46] <max_at> icebox: pre/post foo .. oh nice didn't knew that
[16:49:24] <icebox> max_at: yep :)
[16:50:29] <icebox> and now off... ;)
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[16:51:50] <Pyrrhus666> also off. have a gook weekend folks
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[16:52:54] <max_at> you too guys!
[16:52:56] <max_at> thanks
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[17:13:44] <Elarcis> slamming the door at people loudly laughing in the corridor
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[17:19:45] <Elarcis> welp, ordered a Teensy board, because turns out an Arduino’s not fit for my new project
[17:19:48] <Elarcis> :P
[17:19:55] <Elarcis> It’s an endless spiral
[17:20:23] <Elarcis> One day, you end up making a DIY Arduino with a Teensy
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[17:50:29] <HeartMeeple> Lively channel today?
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[17:51:09] <HeartMeeple> I have a question about angular 5 development on some of our corporate systems.
[17:51:26] <cslcm> it's best to state your question rather than just stating that you have a question
[17:51:44] <HeartMeeple> Where is the seperation between the server side of an angular application and a client side?
[17:52:15] <HeartMeeple> Do API requests originate from teh client side script or the nodejs server?
[17:52:25] <cslcm> There is no server side to an angular application, angular is client-side only. It can of course interact with a server-side component, such as nodejs, but this is outside the scope of angular itself
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[17:53:09] <cslcm> Maybe if you describe what you are hoping to achieve?
[17:53:29] <HeartMeeple> Thanks, I am trying to figure out architecture here. Should I put the server code in the same nodejs instance?
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[17:54:36] <cslcm> same as what?
[17:54:38] <HeartMeeple> I am making architectural choices for a company. I have heard that we don't use angular specifically because there are problems with requests to API calls if the data tier lives on another server.
[17:54:55] <HeartMeeple> I am trying to figure out what runs where.
[17:55:13] <cslcm> Ah, well, you may have CORS issues if you're making requests to another domain, but these can be overcome
[17:56:38] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: Angular is backend-agnostic. It’s just JS that lives on the HTML returned by the server. Any back-end, on any URL, works
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[17:56:56] <cslcm> ^ (as long as cross-domain access is configured correctly)
[17:57:00] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: the trick with CORS is that it’s up to the server to specify which domain it accepts HTTP requests from.
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[17:57:40] <HeartMeeple> So the nodejs server that runs, is it intended to be deployed in a production envirnment?
[17:57:51] <cslcm> which nodejs server?
[17:57:58] <cslcm> if you mean "ng serve" - no, definitely not
[17:58:23] <HeartMeeple> If using angular CLI, on ng serve nodejs opens a port and serves the application.
[17:58:32] <HeartMeeple> I see.
[17:58:34] <HeartMeeple> Thanks.
[17:58:37] <cslcm> Right, yes, that server is for development only.
[17:58:40] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: Though be aware that Angular provides an optional feature called "Server-side rendering", which is basically a server-side script that you can deploy with your website, that pregenerate HTML as if your application had actually loaded, so that users see the app as "instantaneously loaded" while their browser is still downloading the JS (once it is downloaded, Angular takes the relay seemlessly)
[17:59:39] <cslcm> HeartMeeple: ng build --target="production" will perform a production build. It doesn't serve anything, it's up to you to deploy the generated app onto a webserver somewhere
[17:59:48] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: `ng serve` is the development server. You compile-minify everything with a `ng-build --prod` or similar, then you’re given a static website ready to be put on a FTP.
[18:00:00] <HeartMeeple> In nodejs with an angular app, how do you serve code in a production environment?
[18:00:22] <HeartMeeple> I see.
[18:00:31] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: you mean provide server-config to the angular client?
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[18:01:01] <HeartMeeple> I think that is all done in a json file right?
[18:01:17] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: up to you. either you configure the client at compile time and then it’s set in stone, or you have Angular make a HTTP request at initialization time and get a configuration JSON
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[18:01:43] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: or you can write JS global variables in your index.html and have Angular pick up on it :P
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[18:02:52] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: please note that you don’t have to use nodeJS as the server app, other techs such as ASP.NET Core and others are also popular
[18:03:04] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: (or just ASP.NET if you’re a masochist)
[18:03:11] <Elarcis> :P
[18:03:15] <HeartMeeple> I have another team using an Angular 4 Visual studio plugin that is doing all of the serving through IIS.
[18:03:17] <cslcm> not sure why you'd use ASP with angular, surely just IIS would suffice
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[18:03:42] <cslcm> oh, you mean for backend stuff
[18:03:45] <Elarcis> cslcm: for the backend api, I mean
[18:03:45] <cslcm> nvm
[18:03:47] <Elarcis> cslcm: yes
[18:03:49] <Elarcis> cslcm: np
[18:03:52] <HeartMeeple> :-)
[18:04:10] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: you mean it automatically deploys their app to a IIS repository?
[18:05:33] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: but if you’re a REAL developer, you’d write your client inlined in your HTML. Anything that requires tooling is wrong! cc SuperTyp
[18:05:35] <HeartMeeple> No, they abandoned angular a month back for asp.net core because they were having trouble with CORS.
[18:05:42] <cslcm> *facepalm*
[18:05:47] <Elarcis> ^
[18:06:00] <bd-> how do people still have problems with cors
[18:06:14] <HeartMeeple> Simple. Inexperience.
[18:06:15] <Elarcis> bd-: they don’t have access to the target server, mainly
[18:06:27] <cslcm> then use an nginx reverse proxy
[18:06:29] <bd-> yea that is often true, but nothing a cors proxy can't quickly fix
[18:06:48] <cslcm> (other reverse proxies are available ;))
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[18:07:09] <HeartMeeple> I'm pretty inexperienced with that part of the development. I have lived in front end most of the time.
[18:07:26] <cslcm> does your organisation not have any server admins
[18:07:26] <HeartMeeple> where would you install a nginx reverse proxy?
[18:07:45] <cslcm> you'd usually have it running on the same machine that hosts the angular app
[18:07:51] <HeartMeeple> Our organization hands all of our application maint to an external contractor.
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[18:08:09] <cslcm> then you can configure it to forward all requests to (for example) /api to the remote endpoint
[18:08:15] <HeartMeeple> So all of the server administration for team tools is done by each business group.
[18:09:23] <HeartMeeple> that leaves teams to figure out how to do all of the administrative stuff.
[18:11:24] <cslcm> however nginx may not be the best solution in a windows environment, others may be able to offer better advice
[18:11:26] <cslcm> i'm a linuxite
[18:11:46] <HeartMeeple> I prefer linux. However I am living in windows world.
[18:12:28] <cslcm> nginx does run on windows, but i have no idea how well it performs
[18:12:38] <cslcm> probably poorly
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[18:14:10] <HeartMeeple> Everything runs poorly on windows.
[18:14:20] <HeartMeeple> :-P
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[18:14:52] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: it is a well known fact that even windows runs poorly on windows.
[18:16:03] <Elarcis> Though I’m very pleasantly surprised with the linux subsystem, for when a cli tool is only available with linux and you don’t want to have dual boot
[18:16:46] <Elarcis> if there wasn’t games and adobe in my life, no doubt I’d use linux all the time.
[18:17:01] <HeartMeeple> I'm going to stick around the channel for a bit. It seems like asking simple questions can slingshot my understanding of how our angular development could work.
[18:17:36] <Elarcis> HeartMeeple: feel free to ask, we kindly help people who want to learn
[18:17:41] <HeartMeeple> That is why I use a mac at home. I get nice BSD with a fluffy UI.
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[18:17:55] <HeartMeeple> Then brew for package management.
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[18:19:26] <HeartMeeple> Yeah. I really want to learn. My company is at a tipping point with their relationship to microsoft products. If I can show them better development options that ASP.NET applications and show them how to implement them they will switch.
[18:19:46] <HeartMeeple> I'll stick around to learn for sure.
[18:20:34] <cslcm> One of my clients had a big platform that they'd been building for years with many million in investment running via JSP
[18:20:41] <cslcm> i rebuilt the whole thing in a month in angular 1
[18:21:41] <cslcm> of course it doesn't always work out like that, but it's definitely worth investigating new ways of working
[18:23:23] <HeartMeeple> cslcm: This company makes 1.75 billion euros of profit per year. I can't believe that there is so much investment in MS nonsense. It makes life very hard for people.
[18:24:51] <cslcm> There may be a good reason for it, or it may just be for legacy reasons ("We've always used microsoft and we have this expensive service contract..")
[18:25:14] <cslcm> i don't feel that windows is inherantly inferior, it's just different
[18:25:45] <cslcm> anyway this is way off topic :)
[18:26:56] <cslcm> inherently*
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[19:12:32] <sweet2k4> in angularjs, If I would like to communicate between 2 directives I would use require. but when 1 of the directives is a route provider. how would I require that?
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[19:13:40] <sweet2k4> routeProivder gives me a controller and a template. Inside the template I use another directive. I would like to access the same scope as routeProvider controller from the second directive
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[19:14:54] <sweet2k4> if I just set the scope to false I get access to the routeProvider scope directly. But if I wrap the new directive inside a ng-if I get the scope of the ng-if directive instead of the routeProvider...
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[19:58:34] <SuperTyp> if an Component is declared in app.module.ts
[19:59:24] <SuperTyp> is it accessible globally?
[19:59:32] <SuperTyp> a*
[20:00:24] <SuperTyp> I mean, I have a submodule thats lazy loaded and I want to use a component that is declared and exported in app.module
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[20:09:36] <HeartMeeple> SuperTyp: I believe it should be accesible globally if you have the appropriate imports.
[20:10:17] <HeartMeeple> Although it sounds like you ar trying to do something different somehow.
[20:10:43] <SuperTyp> well I realized I need to restructure my app a little bit
[20:10:48] <SuperTyp> didn't make sense
[20:11:04] <SuperTyp> with the restructuring I could solve my problem
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[20:30:22] <Gaulois94> Hello
[20:30:50] <Gaulois94> I have a uib-tab associated to a select function. I have the following issue : the select function is called BEFORE the content of the tab is showned
[20:31:33] <Gaulois94> And I need to get some position variable... Anyone has an idea how to associate to a uib-tab an event after he is selected ? (and the content is showned) ?
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[23:42:51] <kutenai> I'm trying to clean up on old angularjs 1.x app (without a re-write), but adding the code to webpack. Having some difficulties getting the dependencies to work. It's not as clear how to install the dependencies using npm, and I"m missing things like this: $stateProvider, $urlRouterProvider, $locationProvider, $httpProvider
[23:43:05] <kutenai> I"m not sure how I'd go about importing them into the project.
[23:45:29] <kutenai> for angular resources, I did this: [require('angular-resources')] and added that as dependencies on the module config. This works.. but not sure how to make that work for the rest of the dependencies.
[23:45:43] <nopacienc3> kutenai: move to vueja
[23:45:45] <nopacienc3> kutenai: move to vuejs
[23:45:52] <nopacienc3> you wont get support here
[23:46:24] <kutenai> this looks like the right channel
[23:46:34] <nopacienc3> yes
[23:46:44] <nopacienc3> good luck
[23:47:27] <kutenai> well, I'm just asking. If nobody can/will help, I'll keep doing what I was doing anyway.
[23:47:44] <nopacienc3> good luck
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