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[08:45:52] <frangular> Hi every one
[08:46:50] <frangular> can somebody help me with angular 5 and instagram api ?
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[09:04:06] <SargoDarya> Morning folks
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[09:09:32] <Pyrrhus666> morning #angularjs
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[09:11:47] <Elarcis> hello people
[09:11:52] <Elarcis> won’t be here much today
[09:11:57] <Pyrrhus666> morning Elarcis
[09:12:00] <Elarcis> lot of meetings
[09:12:05] <Pyrrhus666> have fun :P
[09:12:17] <Elarcis> I wish
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[09:13:01] <Pyrrhus666> got your bullshit bingo cards ready ?
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[09:14:36] <Pyrrhus666> btw : that spectre / meltdown cpu bug stuff exploded since yesterday
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[09:16:12] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: yep, bigger and creepier than heartbleed
[09:16:28] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: in a way, infosec has been an illusion since 1995
[09:16:44] <Pyrrhus666> and much more generic (esp. spectre)
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[09:17:11] <Pyrrhus666> heh, yes. would be quite the thing if (old) exploits were found.
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[09:24:57] <Elarcis> "oh hey by the way, the tech we’ve been using for 20 years that speeds up CPUs massively? yeah, it’s absolutely unsafe, we’ll have to scrap it."
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[09:27:15] <Pyrrhus666> then again the slowdown caused by the patches seems minor in all but extreme (weird) cases (like doing a ´select 1´ a zillion times in postgress)
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[09:30:19] <Elarcis> Pyrrhus666: apparently, some PHP+apache servers have doubled their workload
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[09:31:18] <Pyrrhus666> I saw some people using AWS complaining. for now, I´ll take all measurements with a grain of salt until the patches actually land and more info is released.
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[10:17:17] <ray02> hello hello
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[10:23:19] <Pyrrhus666> morning ray02
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[10:47:18] <albo> morning <3
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[10:50:17] <Pyrrhus666> morning albo
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[11:25:08] <cmatos> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23928508/nvd3-angular-directive-callback-firing-too-soon
[11:25:11] <cmatos> Anyone?
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[11:26:31] <cmatos> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48080337/show-loading-message-or-spinner-while-chart-is-loading-nvd3-angularjs
[11:27:20] <ray02> cmatos for the second one, you can create a boolean variable
[11:27:28] <ray02> and use *ngIf
[11:27:53] <cmatos> Is the second one, i sent the wrong link first
[11:27:59] <cmatos> how to?
[11:28:26] <cmatos> I try to use a loading backgroun image attach to the svg element
[11:28:48] <ray02> ah but is angularJs
[11:28:53] <cmatos> the problem is I need to control it to show or stop showing using dispatch events understand?
[11:29:09] <cmatos>  I need a way to use a loading in javascript could work
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[13:06:58] <Chulbul> I got a file with 1609 lines of code (other developers worked like that), that's crazy. Now I'm getting syntax error ) is missing. I added ) now it says Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected end of input. What would the fast way to see what's happening, ESLint ?
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[13:23:39] <cmatos> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48095194/nvd3-callback-chart-option-only-called-at-graph-creation
[13:23:41] <cmatos> Anyone?
[13:23:55] <Pyrrhus666> Chulbul, eslint / tslint would probably work. for ease of use, an ide with linter (like vscode) would be easiest
[13:25:07] <Pyrrhus666> cmatos, why not a simple ngshow/nghide based on whether stuff is already loaded ?
[13:25:31] <cmatos> I tried.. the problem is callback function of graph
[13:25:38] <cmatos> is only trigered on graph creation
[13:26:15] <cmatos> when I redraw the graph selecting another time (whith a drop down I have with range selector like last hour, last 24 hours or last week)
[13:26:24] <cmatos> only the graph renderEnd event is triggered
[13:26:32] <Pyrrhus666> so that´s the wrong hook to use. use another.
[13:26:56] <cmatos> and I need to set the variable to show the loading in the callback fucntion to true and then put at false in renderEnd
[13:27:10] <cmatos> @Pyrrhus666  I don't understand
[13:28:31] <cmatos> nvd3 have the callback graph option at the begin of data draw
[13:28:36] <Pyrrhus666> the callback clearly is not the correct place. find another. preferably something in angular, not in nvd3
[13:28:45] <cmatos> and dispatch options witch stateChange
[13:28:49] <cmatos> render End, etc
[13:29:05] <cmatos> I tried to set a background iamge and atach to the div
[13:29:24] <cmatos> where the rgah will be displayed, but the problem is I call this in callback
[13:29:39] <Pyrrhus666> or use https://krispo.github.io/angular-nvd3/#/ ?
[13:29:42] <cmatos> callback fucntion gets the graph and then I can have it
[13:29:56] <cmatos> Yes I'm using this
[13:30:03] <cmatos> And is also a lien chart
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[13:30:17] <cmatos> if you see console
[13:30:57] <cmatos> only at the begin callback is fired
[13:31:15] <Pyrrhus666> so don´t use that one.
[13:32:22] <Pyrrhus666> I don´t understand why you´re doing it this way. just display the chart when the data is loaded (which happens in your controller). no need to hook into nvd3 events ?
[13:32:54] <Chulbul> Pyrrhus666: ok
[13:35:56] <cmatos> My boss wnat to have a loading while the data is waiting to be redraw.. nvd3 show by default the noData legend understand?
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[13:38:17] <Pyrrhus666> cmatos, yes, I understand what you want, I think. but why do it based on nvd3 events, why not use the actual loading of the data to show/hide the graph ?
[13:38:34] <cmatos> cause I need to control the loading
[13:38:42] <cmatos> When to start
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[13:51:32] <E1arcis> cmatos: nvd3 isn’t what fetches the data, right? it comes from somewhere, a service perhaps?
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[13:54:23] <E1arcis> cmatos: put a ngIf on your nvd3 directive to hide it while the data isn’t loaded, with a else condition displaying the loader, and switch it when the data’s there, in your callback function, problem solved
[13:54:49] <cmatos> Yes i did it right now and it worked
[13:54:57] <cmatos> the problem is thist
[13:55:02] <cmatos> nvd3 have a noData message
[13:55:43] <cmatos> when is laoding graph by default it displays the message when dont have data and I need to change that for something like "loading data, please wait" when I have data
[13:56:00] <cmatos> But  it doenst like to be changed outside graph options...
[13:56:07] <cmatos> Why nvd3 is so limited?
[13:56:18] <cmatos> dygraph is so much easier to work around.. this sucks
[13:56:56] <cmatos> I can access to the graph by callabck function and tried to change the legend there but it doesnt take effect.. I need to get this around to make it work.. is just  a legend inside the svg...
[13:57:14] <cmatos> I think i need to this using the old html get elements.. never disappoint
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[14:10:58] <Pyrrhus666> doing stuff outside of the angularjs lifecycle is generally a bad idea
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[16:14:38] <_ritchie_> For datepickers how you typically handle cross browser differences on presence of a nateive datepicker?
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[16:18:01] <Pyrrhus666> _ritchie_, I don´t, I always use the (for instance) bootstrap datepicker.
[16:19:15] <_ritchie_> Pyrrhus666 ah ok just rely on a 3rd party library, that could work
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[16:20:32] <Pyrrhus666> _ritchie_, on desktop the native ones generally suck anyway ;)
[16:21:02] <_ritchie_> thanks!
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[16:37:55] <ringzer0> coming from react, this is my first angular project (v5):  I am using this package: https://stackblitz.com/edit/angular-google-maps-demo?file=app%2Fapp.component.ts ... But within ngx-rocket boilerplate/generator & iconic.  Could <ion-content> be preventing the markers from being "reactive" in nature?  At first, I thought it was due to the package being called "angular2-maps" .. but the docs said 2+,
[16:38:01] <ringzer0> and the example is v5... (angular versions really confused me).
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[16:45:34] <Pyrrhus666> what do you mean by ´reactive´ in this case ?
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[16:56:14] <Elarcis> _ritchie_: simple, use the native datepicker and discriminate against safari and ie users :P
[16:56:14] <Elarcis> :P
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[16:57:54] <ray02> Elarcis they deserve it :)
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[17:43:34] <_132> is the p-chart DOM element supported by angular5 or does it break because of updates? I started working on a project and am trying to add a new chart, but it doesnt update properly after I change the dataset
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[17:44:51] <_132> simply copying the other, already implemented, charts doesnt work because of spaghetti code D:
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[18:16:09] <dman777> Do observables only accept arrays? What if I have a api that give foo = { bar: 'foobar' } and I want a obesrvable on it?
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[18:19:13] <roach> observable should be generic
[18:19:16] <roach> me thinks
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[18:19:46] <roach> in dartlang observable is deprecated in favour of Stream<T>
[18:19:58] <dman777> roach: hmm.... I always seems them with a type... like observable<Hero[]>
[18:20:06] <roach> rather, StreamController
[18:20:26] <roach> yes it's generic, you should be able to have Observable<int
[18:20:35] <roach> or Observable<T[]>
[18:20:50] <roach> i'm not very big on JS or TS
[18:21:46] <dman777> roach: oh... Observable<int>.... where<int> is a array int?
[18:22:02] <dman777> I guess just to confirm... <> always means array, correct?
[18:22:35] <roach> hmm, no... <> is syntax for generics i.e. parametric polymorphism
[18:22:54] <roach> haven't done any coding in a month or so so might talk a bit of nonsense here :P
[18:23:44] <roach> so a generic List can be a list of integers, or a list of strings... List<int> or List<string>
[18:24:37] <dman777> roach: oh...ok. so <> always means list?
[18:24:42] <roach> or in a generic type rather than a generic instance simply a List<T>
[18:24:53] <roach> where T is a place holder for any allowed type
[18:25:09] <dman777> is it generic when it always takes a type?
[18:25:09] <roach> no...
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[18:26:19] <roach> You can create your own type MyType<T>... then instantiate that type with a type parameter of Int or String for example
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[18:27:12] <Elarcis> roach: you’re correct
[18:27:16] <roach> in the methods and type members, you replace types that would usually be constrained to Int or String or whatever with placeholder T and depending on the type parameter you pass to the constructor the class can behave differently
[18:27:53] <Elarcis> dman777: https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/generics.html
[18:27:55] <roach> you can also use statically resolved type constraints to stipulate that whatever type you pass as an argument to the type parameter must support e.g. equality or comparison operations
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[18:28:08] <Elarcis> dman777: major computing concept here, not only typescript, I recommend the reading
[18:28:17] <Elarcis> dman777: it’s sometimes referred to as templates.
[18:28:25] <dman777> Elarcis: roach: thanks
[18:29:29] <roach> short answer to original Q was no, Observable is generic and should accept (almost) any type, Int, String, Boolean, Null, Arrays of primitives, etc
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[18:32:00] <roach> then again, I haven't used Observables much so you might very well be right - perhaps they require list/array/set types... this is not the case with streams though, so unchartered territory for me... but they are generic.
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[18:35:49] <dman777> roach: thansk for the help...there isn't much support in Angular =>2 so every bit helps
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[18:38:34] <roach> what's the general state of Angular JS/TS at the moment? Anyone having issues with Node and npm packages? How "hot" is Angular JS these days... you say Angular 2 when it's now version 5 in JS/TS already? are you maintaining legacy code?
[18:39:21] <roach> I only started recently... but have heard from many folks that maintaining v1 and v2 is a real ball-ache
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[19:33:26] <_132> I am using p-chart to plot graphs, but the graph is only updated when I change the type from 'bar' to 'line' or vice-versa; but changing the datasets doesn't update the graph. Is there a way to force a p-chart DOM element to be redrawn programatically?
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[19:45:28] <_132> correction: the chart only updates when its containing element is toggled with ngIf
[19:45:49] <_132> is that expected? because I feel there should be a direct way to force a redraw
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[20:17:23] <roach> did you try trigger detectChanges()
[20:17:24] <roach> ?
[20:17:42] <roach> sometimes you have to force angular into change detection
[20:18:14] <roach> in dart you need to use changeDetectorRef class
[20:18:39] <roach> correction: changeDetectorRefImpl as the other one is the interface but they are tidying that up
[20:19:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or using zones.
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[20:20:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> Every model change should be done in zone, really.
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[20:31:14] <_132> I tried implementing ngOnChanges for the component, but apparently angular doesnt detect deep changes in objects
[20:31:31] <_132> Eduard_Munteanu: zone.js?
[20:32:03] <roach> aren't zones for exception handling in asynchronous blocks?
[20:32:19] <roach> no... not ngOnChanges
[20:32:30] <roach> look for changeDetectorRef or ChangeDetector - Google for it
[20:32:47] <roach> it has a method you can call to force change detection which is sometimes needed to get the damn thing to respons
[20:32:49] <Eduard_Munteanu> _132, no, https://angular.io/api/core/NgZone
[20:32:52] <roach> respond*
[20:33:06] <_132> ok, Ill look into those :)
[20:33:29] <roach> exactly - a Zone is a scope of Async execution
[20:33:34] <roach> same in Java
[20:34:14] <roach> similar to Dart Futures etc
[20:34:28] <roach> you are looking for ChangeDetectorRef::DetectChanges
[20:34:54] <_132> that way Ill force the component to detect the changes made, correct?
[20:35:06] <roach> had similar issue with material popup menu that wouldn't display over an Esri Map component until I called DetectChanges and then it popped up
[20:35:14] <roach> Yes
[20:35:35] <roach> 3'rd party components sometimes don't play nice with Angular
[20:36:47] <roach> you tell them to do something like update, redraw, show a popup and the signal just gets lost/silenced or stuck in the message queue. calling DetectChanges on ChangeDetector will pump the queue and give the desired result - it should. I can't vouch for your chart component as I never used it. But you can try Google Charts - also pretty cool and works well once you understand it
[20:36:57] <dansa> Which channel should I join for npm talk?
[20:37:05] <Eduard_Munteanu> NgZone.run serializes model changes so change detection runs around the code, that's useful if the changes aren't being made from normal code already, e.g. promises.
[20:37:18] <roach> npm? node? idk
[20:37:32] <roach> promises = async
[20:37:41] <roach> = futures
[20:37:45] <roach> = zones in java
[20:37:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> You usually need to wrap changes done from promises or observables in NgZone.run.
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[20:38:33] <roach> if you want change detection to succeed in an async block
[20:38:51] <roach> https://webdev.dartlang.org/api/angular/angular/ChangeDetectorRef/detectChanges
[20:39:11] <roach> https://webdev.dartlang.org/api/angular/angular/ChangeDetectorRef-class
[20:39:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> e.g. promise.then(_ => { ngZone.run(_ => { this.foo = true }); });
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[20:40:01] <roach> yes... upon completion of the promise/future/async operation the mutation of foo from whatever state it's in to true will be detected by the change detector
[20:40:42] <roach> the final result from the operation is observed by the change detector... or something along those lines
[20:40:51] <roach> despite it being asynchronous
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[20:41:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> It actually moves the state change within the normal code path, which is wrapped by change detection already.
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[20:42:34] <roach> ok
[20:42:57] <roach> conceptually I think I'm talking sense
[20:43:14] <roach> how it achieves what it does behind the scenes I can't say
[20:43:29] <roach> callbacks and microtasks
[20:44:39] <roach> you're just giving the framework to say "in the context of what's happening right now.. don't forget to detect this certain changes and mutations once the async task completes..... thanks, come again, have a nice day:
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[20:49:41] <roach> Dart implementation of Angular is somewhat different to JS so feel free to swear at me if I am talking crap
[20:50:01] <roach> I don't mind JS folks swearing at me - in fact I kind of expect it
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[20:53:27] <roach> https://api.dartlang.org/stable/1.24.3/dart-async/runZoned.html
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[20:59:11] <roach> Eduard_Munteanu: sorry man - clearly there is a language difference between us (Dart/Angular)... you are perhaps 100% correct and I should not shout you down... as I don't touch Angular JS. Still have a lot to learn in AngularDart too... but I do believe ChangeDetector was answer to to _132's issue
[20:59:17] <roach> https://www.dartlang.org/articles/libraries/zones
[20:59:22] <roach> not to be confused with NgZone
[20:59:31] <roach> which I've had no use for so far
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[21:02:48] <roach> I see now it's more to the contrary... to get Angular to ignore certian processing until a final result arrives. Zones in the context of async and exception handling are different however, also related to async, but more specific to exception handling (as I originally wrote)
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[21:02:50] <roach> Sorry man
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[21:37:11] <heartmeeple> I'm a new developer. Just graduated. I am trying to build an Angular web app and am trying to answer an architecture question about my data tier APIs. Primarily, when I build an Angular web app do the calls to the DB directly come from the service? Should I build a seperate to handle http API requests?
[21:37:35] <heartmeeple> What is a best practice way to connect to a DB?
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[21:49:38] <dhoelzer> heartmeeple: No, that would be a horrendously bad practice because it would put database credentials into the Angular service that you deliver to the browser.
[21:49:51] <dhoelzer> Instead, your angular service calls a server side service that accesses the database.
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[22:29:40] <heartmeeple> dhoelzer: But in Angular 5, isn't the serve-side application logic contained in the node instance?
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[22:58:54] <roach> heartmeeple: you there?
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